There is a ~10 minutes Arcueid's bonus scene that happens right around 4:13:14 mark - ruclips.net/video/cclm7GbwOX8/видео.html . There should be a notification that will automatically bring you to bonus scene video when you click it. You can watch it and then get back here by clicking on the link in the comment section.
Man I actually feel so fucking bad for arcueid,I mean this is probably the last time she'll get a major role in the plot considering red garden will focus more on the tohno family and shiki's past and doesnt really get too deep into vampire stuff,not to mention her good ending gets removed and the true ending stays the same as og and doesnt include the bonus ending the manga added.She kinda acts forcibly in this route but....can you really blame her? she never felt any emotion before and even towards roa i doubt she really hated him rather its more of an automatic instincts for her to get her power back, and after finally she feels real emotions towards someone, she still couldnt be with him no matter what. Really hoping for arcueid to appear yumizuka route even she isnt the same happy go lucky girl she is in near side routes,also nasu PLEASEEEEE after youre done with red garden PLEASEEEEE remake the sequel premise of shiki and arcueid going to europe to kill some vampires i hope we dont get blue balled like last time
arcueid got what was coming for her after what she did to ciel in og besides, she has more than enough screentime for it being CIEL route even in remake
everything after calvaria and before the luminary dies is a total fucking trip, there's lore in there about the types but i was so fried by that point i couldn't even pay attention
it's essentially just arcueid being like ultra jealous of shiki choosing ciel over her,in the secret scene if you get max arcueid affection meter beforehand,it pretty much confirms she only really cared about shiki ever since he entered her marble phantasm domain. the only reason arcueid doesn't directly do anything about shiki is because of her pride. so yeah, arcueid didn't really give a shit about ciel anymore after shiki entered her domain and only acting cruel to ciel just to piss off shiki,which is still kinda fucked up but oh well atleast ciel get a happy ending in the end I guess
You need to see the bigger picture here: Arcuied barely got along with anyone before meeting Shiki. In other words, Shiki was her first friend, Shiki is also the only one who cares for her as herself and not a copy of Crimson Moon. So it is easily seen that Shiki means a lot to Arc, Shiki can be said to be the world to her. So when he chose Ciel over her, she having never been rejected before lashed out, because that's the only thing she knew how to do, the TAs only taught her how to fight. So Arc in this route is essentially a child lashing out because her world is being taken away from her. This is her way of handling the rejection and jealousy, which is not a good way, even Eco Arc roasts her for that.
@@nekitaroyamaoto2135"she's a monster" was ridiculous, ciel knows nothing about the balance of the world, she's nothing more than a girl afraid to face herself
Nasu really needed to make Arcueid Remake that Busted? Gonna be an hassle to Power Scale Anyway, the nerve of Shiki just not letting Arcueid die, even Ritsuka would have become too fed up with her by this point
@@markgilberk6248 He wasn't there during the Arcade Event though So it's more understandable for him to consider only what he see Besides, becoming a Beast does change your personality, see Tiamat, they even comment on it
Yes, he outright said she is the strongest existence in the setting of Tsukihime and Mahoyo, and this same setting includes a version of ORT far more powerful than the one in Fate.
@@theleechqueen ORT is stronger though Recently it was released an article explaining how Nasu came up with ORT creation and in the title there was literally written "Type-Moon Strongest Character" Even in Angel Notes side-material Nasu claim ORT to be more powerful than even Arcueid She is busted, especially now But not stronger than anyone in the verse
@@Nothingness4907 That magazine scan title is just to hype up ORT. Arcueid had the exact same title when she was featured as a guest character for Fate/Extra. Nasu outright said ORT is the strongest existence "in outer space" during that interview. The Character Material scans you're quoting is precisely before the Remake continuity which Nasu considers to be a new setting since he explicitly changed the lore. There are multiple reasons why ORT simply cannot be stronger than Arcueid. 1. The energy Arc is using to amp herself comes from something called the Celestial Egg which as shown in Ciel's route it's actually the beginning and end of a universe in the form of the planet's texture. The planet's texture is explicitly shown and stated to dwarf the human universe of awareness, which is the solar system. 2. Her Luminary state's energy was explicitly stated to have a greater concentration of energy than anything observed before, which obviously includes things like ORT. 3. Her Principle of Extremum is the ability to compress energy and information even past the point where the inflation phenomenon is said to occur. 4. Refer to Ciel's infodump on Day 9 pertaining the scale of beings in the world of magecraft. The most important thing when it comes to determining strength is energy output, or as Tsukihime puts it; lifescale. We get an exposition by Ciel in Tsukihime where she describes the scale of existence of beings in the magical world. The strongest being is small and heavy, followed by large and heavy, then small and light (humans fall in this category), then large and light (like rumors, widespread information and the like). Arcueid is depicted as the epitome of smallest and heaviest existence, and she can further amp her Lifescale by drawing more and more energy. In fact her Principle is the embodiment of this concept, quite literally since it allows to compress limitless energy inside a 10^-35 meters small singularity inside her body, even past the point where energy itself cannot be further condensed. During her fight with Ciel it's mentioned the energy swirling within her body was enough to reshape the entire world, the narration even compares her to a stellar mass blackhole singularity. This is possible only thanks to her Principle. So frankly "large and heavy" entities like ORT quite simply don't fit the definition of strongest existence as explained in the game itself.
There is a ~10 minutes Arcueid's bonus scene that happens right around 4:13:14 mark - ruclips.net/video/cclm7GbwOX8/видео.html . There should be a notification that will automatically bring you to bonus scene video when you click it. You can watch it and then get back here by clicking on the link in the comment section.
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Roa. Immortal Vampire. Not above comparing his mode of existence to a modern vehicles Navigational system. Oh, Nasu.
Nasu fucking cooked with this one. What in the fuck.
Yeah. Some people say it was too long ending,but damn,every ending was sick asf
I can't die until the day ufotable animates this epic fight
Man I actually feel so fucking bad for arcueid,I mean this is probably the last time she'll get a major role in the plot considering red garden will focus more on the tohno family and shiki's past and doesnt really get too deep into vampire stuff,not to mention her good ending gets removed and the true ending stays the same as og and doesnt include the bonus ending the manga added.She kinda acts forcibly in this route but....can you really blame her? she never felt any emotion before and even towards roa i doubt she really hated him rather its more of an automatic instincts for her to get her power back, and after finally she feels real emotions towards someone, she still couldnt be with him no matter what.
Really hoping for arcueid to appear yumizuka route even she isnt the same happy go lucky girl she is in near side routes,also nasu PLEASEEEEE after youre done with red garden PLEASEEEEE remake the sequel premise of shiki and arcueid going to europe to kill some vampires i hope we dont get blue balled like last time
If it's anything like what Plus-Disc proposed, Arcueid will get one more role in the Yumizuka route as an ally of Shiki and Satsuki.
She has her own route at least
Still love her though.
arcueid got what was coming for her after what she did to ciel in og
besides, she has more than enough screentime for it being CIEL route even in remake
I mean she will get True Ending dw
everything after calvaria and before the luminary dies is a total fucking trip, there's lore in there about the types but i was so fried by that point i couldn't even pay attention
2:46:45 Lmfao that roast
Perfect
1:57:13 never been so hyped in my life
1:57:08 is so hype 1:57:08
2:56:14 RUN! ITS ARCUEIDZILLA!!!
I started this at 12am 😂 im so cooked
Is there a way to kill ciel without killing roa ?
Haven’t watched any of the endings yet but are they both sad?
Both of them have a lot of sad scenes, but in the end Normal End is pure sadness and True End actually ends on a happy note.
@olson6897 just finished this vid it was sad to see arcueid leave especially remembering her an route
I cried on normal ending
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Arcueid was unnecessary cruel to Ciel, while Ciel was just acting in self-defense. I lost a lot of respect for her in this route.
it's essentially just arcueid being like ultra jealous of shiki choosing ciel over her,in the secret scene if you get max arcueid affection meter beforehand,it pretty much confirms she only really cared about shiki ever since he entered her marble phantasm domain. the only reason arcueid doesn't directly do anything about shiki is because of her pride. so yeah, arcueid didn't really give a shit about ciel anymore after shiki entered her domain and only acting cruel to ciel just to piss off shiki,which is still kinda fucked up but oh well atleast ciel get a happy ending in the end I guess
Arcueid is a vampire and Ciel is an executor. They are like cat and dog. Cant get along
You need to see the bigger picture here:
Arcuied barely got along with anyone before meeting Shiki. In other words, Shiki was her first friend, Shiki is also the only one who cares for her as herself and not a copy of Crimson Moon. So it is easily seen that Shiki means a lot to Arc, Shiki can be said to be the world to her. So when he chose Ciel over her, she having never been rejected before lashed out, because that's the only thing she knew how to do, the TAs only taught her how to fight. So Arc in this route is essentially a child lashing out because her world is being taken away from her. This is her way of handling the rejection and jealousy, which is not a good way, even Eco Arc roasts her for that.
Ciel deserved everything she got. Ciel was the one who tried to antagonize Arcueid for no reason
@@nekitaroyamaoto2135"she's a monster" was ridiculous, ciel knows nothing about the balance of the world, she's nothing more than a girl afraid to face herself
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You have to know that this is not Ciel's True Ending, it is Ciel's extra ending according to Nasu's words.
Yeah ur right but actually extra ending means true ending as well,tm did say that(the old version also has a true ending
I kinda liked how the normal ending went. It was bittersweet and I liked how Shiki joined the church
Nasu really needed to make Arcueid Remake that Busted?
Gonna be an hassle to Power Scale
Anyway, the nerve of Shiki just not letting Arcueid die, even Ritsuka would have become too fed up with her by this point
Ritsuka saved a Draco aka Beast he might get fed up but he would still save her
@@markgilberk6248 He wasn't there during the Arcade Event though
So it's more understandable for him to consider only what he see
Besides, becoming a Beast does change your personality, see Tiamat, they even comment on it
Yes, he outright said she is the strongest existence in the setting of Tsukihime and Mahoyo, and this same setting includes a version of ORT far more powerful than the one in Fate.
@@theleechqueen ORT is stronger though
Recently it was released an article explaining how Nasu came up with ORT creation and in the title there was literally written "Type-Moon Strongest Character"
Even in Angel Notes side-material Nasu claim ORT to be more powerful than even Arcueid
She is busted, especially now
But not stronger than anyone in the verse
@@Nothingness4907 That magazine scan title is just to hype up ORT. Arcueid had the exact same title when she was featured as a guest character for Fate/Extra. Nasu outright said ORT is the strongest existence "in outer space" during that interview.
The Character Material scans you're quoting is precisely before the Remake continuity which Nasu considers to be a new setting since he explicitly changed the lore. There are multiple reasons why ORT simply cannot be stronger than Arcueid.
1. The energy Arc is using to amp herself comes from something called the Celestial Egg which as shown in Ciel's route it's actually the beginning and end of a universe in the form of the planet's texture. The planet's texture is explicitly shown and stated to dwarf the human universe of awareness, which is the solar system.
2. Her Luminary state's energy was explicitly stated to have a greater concentration of energy than anything observed before, which obviously includes things like ORT.
3. Her Principle of Extremum is the ability to compress energy and information even past the point where the inflation phenomenon is said to occur.
4. Refer to Ciel's infodump on Day 9 pertaining the scale of beings in the world of magecraft. The most important thing when it comes to determining strength is energy output, or as Tsukihime puts it; lifescale.
We get an exposition by Ciel in Tsukihime where she describes the scale of existence of beings in the magical world. The strongest being is small and heavy, followed by large and heavy, then small and light (humans fall in this category), then large and light (like rumors, widespread information and the like). Arcueid is depicted as the epitome of smallest and heaviest existence, and she can further amp her Lifescale by drawing more and more energy. In fact her Principle is the embodiment of this concept, quite literally since it allows to compress limitless energy inside a 10^-35 meters small singularity inside her body, even past the point where energy itself cannot be further condensed.
During her fight with Ciel it's mentioned the energy swirling within her body was enough to reshape the entire world, the narration even compares her to a stellar mass blackhole singularity. This is possible only thanks to her Principle.
So frankly "large and heavy" entities like ORT quite simply don't fit the definition of strongest existence as explained in the game itself.