Dungeons & Dragons and the Influence of Tabletop RPGs | Off Book | PBS Digital Studios
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Since their growth in popularity in the 1970s, RPGs have had a huge influence not just on players, but on everything from Hollywood to the development of video games. Now, In a world dominated by video games and social media, there remains an enduring interest in gathering around a table and playing games face to face. Beyond cards and board games, Role Playing Games allow not just for interaction and play, but the creativity of storytelling, world creation, and engagement with ideas.The adaptability of D&D and other tabletop RPGs can satisfy players in a way that our digital world still cannot, with unique game mechanics and engagement and limitless use of imagination. As tabletop RPGs enjoy a cultural resurgence, more and more people are discovering the freedom and interactivity that makes them unique.
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Thrilled to see my video made the cut on this piece! I filmed it for International Tabletop Day at my FLGS, Kirwan's Game Store, who was also kind enough to lend me the camera. The adventure was Revenge of the Iron Lich, which is a excellent one-shot available for free from SVD Press.
I think that the philosophy of playing an RPG will lead to such things as Hologram rooms where "readers" can experience by being part of the story just as it is with pad and pencil in modern times playing RPG's. I love RPG's!!! Wish I lived in an area where there was more then just me that played. I am the lone wolf in my area. I am disabled so I cannot travel any length of time to the larger cities where there are groups.
So proud of my husband, Stephen, for being included in such a well done and positive piece on table top role playing! He was the DM in black, speaking, whose face you never saw running Sersa V's Revenge of the Iron Lych for International Game Day.
this brings back memories. I used to play Stormbringer, a paranormal one (can't remember the name), and TMNT by Palladium books. I still have my dice. Although, I don't play anymore. I keep my dice in my creative workspace to remind me that it's important to be sponaneous when you're telling stories.
I played D&D back in the late 70's right thru the 80's, waiting with anticiapation for the postman to arrive with new D&D books and modules, very fond moments playing with mates and that's what it was all about sharing time with mates.
Whenever we have an extended power outage, my family always breaks out the pen and paper and D20/D6's for some very basic DnD. Very simplified, but very organic and great for passing the time and having fun without electricity.
Dear Off Book Staff, I am glad that you are now being more moderate in the camera zooming in when people speak. It made me a little motion sick before, but now its great!!
I didn't know much about RPGs before this but now I have a new respect. Thanks, OffBook!
One of the best gaming experiences I ever had was when I convinced a group of not-so-nerdy people to try D&D. You might start by asking your friends to think of a character they like from any fictional universe (not necessarily medieval fantasy), and to try to imagine themselves as that character.
Lauren DM'd one of the very first D&D sessions I played. So cool to see her in this video!
I didn't catch it until the second view, but every edition of D&D is represented in these video clips. Well Done!
I have always been a nerd, but I never thought of D&D as cool or fun or worth my time. Then my friend can along and dragged my group of friends kicking and screaming into dungeon world. Now we can go more than two weeks without getting the group together. I don't think we will ever stop playing video games but I think we can do both side by side and I think others will too.
Totes glad our gaming group made it's way into the background of this one for 'asking questions', lol. No, this was a well done little piece honestly. Kudos!
Expedition to the Barrier Peaks, module S3, published in 1980, is probably the best (and possibly the first) example of sci-fi in D&D.
I am a DM and proud of the creativity of my group.
They should do one on Filk if they are still around (Off Book team that is). Or at least cover Leslie Fish.
As a D&D player who started on 4e, I will have you know our emphasis in games is certainly on story. Its really just about how your specific group plays
I like the video although as an old school gamer it does sadden me that the only image of RPGs shown now are with battlemaps and minis when many dont use those for their RPGs (myself amongst them).
I really miss playing D&D. Thanks for making this video.
Woot! Thrilled and surprised to find myself in this! Well done, guys!
"Is it Low-Light?"
"It's...dark."
"But is it Low-Light?"
poor DM
Too often RPG documentaries (even ones as short as this one) make players and GMs seem less normal. This did a great job in actually portraying all of RPG culture as socially acceptable human beings.
just go to a local game store, and ask them if they run D&D games. Often, for newcomers, they'll have pre-made characters so you can get past the complicated parts, and just play. Then, when you feel like you would like to make your own, you can buy the books.
Also, just reading the Player's Handbook is normally enough to get started if you're new.
Heya, Mike.
Many of the very same stores you've been buying your TCG supplies from, are also frequented by tabletop-RPG players. And many of them have a bulletin board or other place, where you could put up a postcard stating that you're a novice player looking to join a group and learn to play. :)
Good luck, and I hope you have a blast! :)
So my fiance' actually designed his own table top RPG system, OneShot. He wanted something lightweight where you can go tell an awesome story without getting bogged down by mechanics (e.g. grappling rules) and was frustrated with many of the systems we had been playing. We've been beta testing OneShot for a couple years and Badass (think 80s action heros) and PsiCOM (agents with psionic powers) are my two favorites now. (Previously was WhiteWolf OWoD)
An MMO is inflexible. It works consistently on its own simple set of rules. A good DM knows when and how to bend the rules. Sometimes you even end up in a situation where the players, DM, and rulebooks don't have a plan for the situations you may end up in, so it requires some creativity on the DM's part to continue the game. But in an MMO, there are hard constraints - like running into invisible walls at off-limits areas, or walking somewhere for 20 minutes.
and i get an ad for tampons and fashion bloggers,.... Really hit the perfect demographic for that one!
That's good. Although, there's still a big difference between the macro-story which the DM creates and the micro-stories of player characters which old school rules and gaming philosophy make possible. If you've never read it (short and free), I encourage you to google "Quick Primer for Old School Gaming".
Also, when I ran 4th edition, combats took a minimum of 45 minutes to get through. I remember major battles with lots of opponents took almost 2 hours to finish! No time for roleplaying.
No reference to the "community" dnd episode? Way better than the big bang theory one.
Ah the memories. The days of Dueling Grounds. FYI I'm the first face you see in the vid lol.
Need to get LeVar Burton to review it, "...but don't take MY word for it."
I wish I can learn how to play tabletop games. I usually play Magic the Gathering, Yu-Gi-Oh, and now Cardfight Vanguard. On top of that, I play video game RPGs, and I haven't got a chance to experience table top RPGs yet...
Have never played DnD before need to go to the local games workshop
00:14 I bet that's at least a +2 Charisma mustache.
Good work and a nice introduction to the hobby.
i know people meet up for Magic:The Gathering, but wasnt so sure about D&D
thanks, i'll try that :)
I suspected as much. But I was referring to the WH40k with the models and just table top combat not being a Role Playing Game....I didn't have room to specify. =D
I have played WH40k and Necromunda a few times way back. It was fun, I just wouldn't have the patience to paint all the neat miniatures. Maybe when 3d printers come out I'll just print them out. =)
Yup, you did :) Search gemucon d&d session, it's pretty amazing.
What 4th edition did was take the techniques some players were already using and gave them stats and choices. (Besides..."I swing my sword! I do damage!")
It gave people an even more strategic element, since you don't have shoe horn rules to work for some crazy maneuver your player comes up with.
But, it's different from what you're used to, and I can see why you don't like it, you probably wouldn't like the other editions either, based on your comments.
I've played almost all D&D worlds, Ghostbusters RPG, Robotech, Call of Cthulhu, Vampire the Masquerade (and all the other series like Werewolf, Mage, etc)... and the best of all always is D&D ñ__ñ
Im just getting into DnD now (next year is my grade 12 year), I have a couple friends that are willing and now all we have to do is actually start. I love the idea of using imagination, it makes it more real. And hey id rather have fun with friends this way then the other teenagers now a days by drinking and getting pregnant. so ya im pretty excited to start dnd
Maybe I should give tabletop RPGs a try someday. I like RPG videogames, so maybe tabletop could be enjoyable too.
Great video - and I also have always wanted to play (and to find a good DM) but I am dubious about the claims that D&D introduced the notion of equipping your character or levelling up...
Wow that's awesome
so awesome video
Never played a real D&D , was always curious about it. Remember reading some of the books back in high school , that's about as close as I came. Just I wouldn't want to go all hardcore and dress up or anything, But Mansions of Madness will have to scratch that itch for now.
Man... Wish I could find some place to play D&D, always wanted to but none of my friends play and I don't really know much about D&D
i want to play this now
I don't know where you live, but there may be a meetup (on meetup . com) group in your area for people who play games or even specifically RPGs. I have had a lot of fun meeting new people through meetup so you could give that a try.
i always wanted to try playing D&D, people make it seem like its a lot of fun, but none of my friends are 'nerdy' enough for that :/
Oh, check out the complete book of skill by implement games for DnD 4. I did a video about it titled RE: To DawnforgedCast's 4th Edition Dungeons and Dragons video.
It's not so bad. There's a massive amount of info but you don't need to know it all. You'll have the DM and other players to help walk you through it. I've played through a few campaigns and probably only encountered 5% at most of what there is to see/fight/use/etc.
I was there!
It strikes me as odd that almost every game they showed was D&D played using maps and figurines. I've been roleplaying for more than 30 years and we've rarely bothered with maps and minis. Also, I still play D&D on occasion, but prefer games like Savage Worlds, GURPS, Trail of Cthulhu, or Fiasco--just like those rules systems better.
Unfortunately my friends insist on playing the current name brand D&D, but I'm grateful Pathfinder has continued where 3.5e left off even though I've never played it.
What's this about a Pathfinder MMO? I might be interest in that. Hope it turns out awesome!
Because...Roll Playing is the only thing that is decided by the system. You can Role Play anything you want with any system you want. Some are more optimized and have specific rules better suited to it than others, but you could play D&D (any version) in modern day or the Star Wars universe.
It's weird to watch yourself on camera. This turned out really well though!
god i love these off books
Well, there's a saying I like to reference: "Opinions are like a$holes; everyone has one, and they all stink."
Really want to find a place to play
Pathfinder is still releasing new stuff. It is like 3.75 and they are even making an mmo based off of it
The combat system isn't the only important system of D&D nor the only requiring rolls. Skills required rolls too and it assisted in the role playing. Character creation/customization was an important aspect, as well as the spells, lore, and stuff. If you just mainly cared about the combat system, I can understand why you're saying what you're saying....however D&D wasn't just mainly about the combat system, though it apparently it is now. It's less of a RPG now (ROLE Playing Game not ROLL).
6:35 Hello Dodger!
roll20 is a great option if you dont mind playing online. Or try searching for game groups near you. Good luck mate.
Goes to watch PBS - suddenly, "A wild Dodger Appears!" :P - and a Jesse... (Can't remember who the guy with dark hair is though... )
Right, I ran out of room in that other post (forgot I didn't get to posting it). I have a strong distaste for the new skill system, I will admit that. I just went ahead and gave conversions so it worked like 3.5 skills.
But....I still don't see how it's less about Role playing than it ever was. As I stated in my previous comment.
Character customisation is at a high. Back then, you picked a class, and you were basically like any other barbarian or whatever. Well I already made this argument...
No discussion of The Forge? Monsterhearts? Nobilis?? Ribbon Drive???? Durance??????? Dungeons and Dragons is the foundation of the culture, but it's moved forward in pretty important and fascinating ways. We don't just tell "heavy stories" about three lobed brains anymore!
Don't forget Jesse Cox!
You in for some great times, but don't let A-holes spoil your fun.
Excellent, but why only the focus on D&D, theres been a huge development in RPGs besides D&D with more focus on roleplaying and less on combat and dice rolling, such as World of Darkness, Kult, and Fusion
Theres is a WH40k RPG. It's called Dark Heresy.
I have nothing against house rules or anybody who uses it. But technically it is still changing the rules, how the game was meant to be played as written by the authors. That's why they have official erratas and corrections. I personally don't care about the rules, but since we were arguing about the editions (set of rules), I have to be technical.
D&D also had a time in which people were calling it evil and cultish. Crazy compared to nowadays.
Thank you for showing so many girls!!!!!
No credit given for bandarji's photo at 5:15:
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I only noticed because I'm in the shot. ;)
Just in case you weren't already aware, we have been providing research & information on the effects of all role-playing game formats since 2004. This is a not-for-profit community site sharing as much research with the public as possible. www.rpgresearch.com Hopefully you will find it a useful resource.
I wonder if people ever play a version called Drunk & Dragons.
i need friends to play this...
Oh and the best part is the pdf is free.
True, basic dnd didn't even had skills or proficiencies which came later, and people still play the fuck out of that. But DnD has always been a game about dungeon exploring. It is where most of the rules concentrate on.
what is going on with the girl at6:31? that is not someones game, that is a dramatic performance, what movie or show is that from?
That's precisely the problem with 4th edition. It's too far removed from the original conception of the game where Gygax and others specifically authorize the Dungeon Master to make the game his own and alter whatever rules he sees fit. THAT is D&D, my friend!
You are talking about a sandbox format of playing.
yup, and jesse
Me neither :P
I think I just saw Dodger...
play online!
Great basic overview, though I think some of the statements were overly ambitious.
Just go by what the others are playing and stick with that. But if you are the one starting it, why not get a game that is a little rules lighter like BareBones Fantasy. It is only 82 pages. I have a review on my channel if you want to check it out.
Baldur's Gate & the original Neverwinter PC games probably played a significant role contributing to the D&D title just like I suspect the novel books did. They felt like D&D.
4e did feel nothing like anything prior, it's not really a continuation of the spirit of what D&D is. I don't know how you can think that's a good thing. It alienated a good portion of the fans & 4e failed financially as indicated by lay offs. But hey, go slap the D&D title on Shadowrun or some other RPG and call it D&D.
Try Google Hangouts. There are a lot of sites you can find with Google plus to get a game going.
"Technically you shouldn't be doing that for the skills, and technically you're not really playing 4e then." Oh come one now, house ruling a rpg system is just another aspect of the hobby. Just to be sure, I don't have a horse in this race, but that first sentence was a bit off.
You definitely don't have to "go all hardcore and dress up".
I've been playing RPGs, D&D included, for .... lord in heaven, thirty-three or thirty-four years, now. I've yet to "dress up" - or as most gamers would call it, go to a game "in garb". :)
What are you talking about? When you level up you could get new skills, access to new spells, or even take a level of another class giving you access to tons of new stuff. I suppose if you were playing a single class vanilla fighter there won't be much, but that's not the fault of rules.
4e did focus more on tactical combat with being able sliding enemies to other squares and stuff, IDK if that's what you are saying is more choice. IMO combat is boring, but I still don't see how 4e "raised it".
I already made my points, and you have made your's. And, no system is ever perfect.
As you stated, you don't fault the game for limited choices...so a bit of hypocrisy when you fault this new game for limited skill choices...
You don't like it. I like it. We aren't going to convince each other of the other's opinions.
I wouldn't doubt it she plays 4E.
You see it as reducing it, I see it as raising it. It's an opinion.
3.5: you had no real meaningful choices in character creation besides feats, which you got every 3 levels, and at 8th level, you can start taking advanced classes (which takes quite a while, and we never even got there in several of my games).
Not to mention, melee combat was stale as hell. " I do a spinning back flip and slice his knee!" "Ok, roll your normal damage."
In 4.0, even characters of same class/race can be different.
Also I never said characters in 4e can't be different when they're the same class. Sure they CAN be different in 4e, but in 3.5 they can be REALLY different.
You keep reference attacking and just doing damage in your comments. Are you just looking at combat? I'm talking about the whole system. If your campaigns focus mostly on combat and very little on role playing, I think both of us were getting very different things out of our D&D sessions. Maybe you don't even use the stuff that was cut.
yup instead of just imagine you see it.
Psionics, Expedition to the Barrier Peaks. D&D has been heavily influenced by Science Fantasy.