Getting punched around in the boxing ring, out of breath, sweaty, feeling like you want it to end while still throwing your own shots will teach you more than paying someone 18,000 $ to shout at you.
@@rinzler9775 I joined an MMA gym. I specifically focus on boxing. Yeah I do other stuff but having hands is more important to me. ATM. I’ve gotten over so much anxiety I can’t even describe how much it’s helped.
@@leewilson5389 actually, yes, i'm a Judo instructor but even i know that people usually go for punches in street fights and those types of altercations, so knowing your punches and how to defend against them and punishing your opponent for their punching mistakes is HUGE. Of course, grappling also happens often, good thing that you are doing mma already
@@jestfullgremblim8002 I’m thankful that practitioners like yourself exist and share knowledge. Even at my age of 40 I knew there was something missing. Always slightly on edge in public and it wasn’t just trying to be street wise. I was aggressive due to a lack of confidence. Month by month - it’s healing.
@@leewilson5389 great, go ahead! As you might find in other martial art related channels, i know about many arts and i would be happy to answer any questions, martial arts are what i like, after all.
My grandfather served in WW1 (fought at Vimy), and my father in WW2. Both have passed, but neither of them demonstrated the characteristic alpha behaviours. They treated everybody with kindness and respect, never played the "military" card, and were both humble men. Those who talk the most and the loudest are seldom the most brave. Beware of the quiet men who don't need that kind of validation.
That's what real "alphas" behave like. A real alpha, protects the lack, not abuse the pack. Real alpha eats after the pack has eaten, not taking first share. Etc. Just about everyone who claims they're alpha isnt
My grandfather was in WW1- in the Royal Flying Corp. (prior to it becoming the RAF)- he flew over the Somme, he never glorified war. I don't think many that have actually been in a war glorify it, they remain humble and hope it never happens again.
Ironically, wouldn't an alpha male refuse to be treated like that in the first place? Like at the very least, surely being "alpha" means having some self respect.
Well, it's not even a thing that's real, so no. There is no such thing as an alpha male human. It does make one a b*tch, though. A dominant or type A human male probably won't feel the need to draw too much attention to it. It'll be obvious to everyone around them, should they choose to express it.
@@fightscience I've seen it time and again, a lot at gun ranges. The people, almost unanimously male, that want to talk most about military things are the ones that, as you so accurately and succinctly say, "Missed the call."
Just got my latest business model. 😎 I never would have seen it as being viable, or sustainable. Apparently, there are more pathetic people with money than I ever knew.
In Finland we have this word, myötähäpeä, "co-shame"; the feeling when you see someone doing something embarrassing.. that they're often not ashamed of, so you end up feeling the shame for them. Secondhand embarrassment. It's what I feel when I see this. Seems more accurate than mere "cringe".
Scandinavian socialism the "nice and polite" but look rhe other way type of mentality??? In Minnesota there is this toxic widespread mentality with Native born people who do "Mn Nice" it is the most toxic and shaming, dehumanizing thing i have ever been around They treat men like me as invisible and insignificant. One reason i don't trust or believe people from ScandinavianGerman cultures and people. Fake as rubber dogsh*t.
There's something hilarious about a dude with the words 'alpha male' in brackets after his name on social media. If he has to broadcast it, he isn't it. The way that these guys project themselves is pretty toxic, for the most part.
What you see those guys doing has nothing to do with the military.Military training has a purpose and structure.Completely different from the mess displayed by those so called instructors.
@@Nak_Muay_Farang11 In the military I got in touch with drugs and alcohol. A lot of guys I met in my time in service ended up unemployed or doing prison time. I don't care if you disagree.
Perfect. The "without hurting anyone else" is what so many don't understand in all walks of life, from religious zealots to narcissists to the type of men we see running the "training" in this video to so many more. The need to hurt others comes from a place of pain, hurt and/or insecurity.
Marines and French Foreign Legion also teach combat skills (I.e. weapons, first aid, etc.). These wannabes are simply doing exercise and getting berated with no actual learning.
The Legion is a five year commitment and the USMC is an eight year commitment. That's likely why these chaps don't sign up. Also... there's not a lot of money coming your way in a military career. It's ok money... you'll be just fine if you are reasonable... but not big $$$ by any means.
@@haggis525 Being a Legionnaire comes with French citizenship and all the benefits that come with it, ones Americans can only dream of like medical care which won't bankrupt you, worker protection, a dignified retirement, and a society which values cooperation
We are 100% animals and are not "higher" than other animals. The fact that you can talk and know how to drive a stick shift doesn't change that. Btw, even animal behavior isn't what you think it is.
@@danr5462this is bullshit. Alpha/beta sociology does not apply to modern human society. There are just too many people in too small a space for this sort of nonsense to apply. Most of the people who run the world are nerds mate. You think Mark Zuckerberg or Elon Musk would be alphas in early human communities, no chance. It is just an excuse for losers who want to be special or aggressive people who want to excuse their shitty behaviour.
the "alpha male" label was dispelled by the scientist that coined the term. Upon further studies they saw that it was a misunderstanding of how the wolf pack behaved. But the term has stuck around like it was fact.
@@danr5462 Among social animals the ability to form coalitions of friends and allies is incredibly important, much more than being the biggest and meanest. And even among harem species - which humans aren't such as horses, cows, lions, and gorillas, success is usually due to the "aunties". The older females know local conditions, food sources, dangers, and terrain. The lion or Silverback might have blown in over the ridge literally last week.
@@danr5462 We are higher animals because we are of higher intelligence. We can choose to ignore our natural instincts. The reason the statues of ancient European men have small genitals is because they found genitalia vulgar because it evokes beastliness. A great man is a person of strong mind. Meanwhile, other cultures revered genitalia because they prized their bestial nature rather than intellect, which is reflected in their societies to this day.
The instructors at this “alpha male” camp have dubious backgrounds. One was a U.S. Marine mechanic who chose not to continue serving after September 11th. Another was also Marine special operations, but had his gym involuntarily closed for violating COVID safety rules.
As an old Infantry soldier who experienced all this yelling and humiliation in military training, Dr. You could not have been more right. Thankyou for pointing out the flaws of the "Alpha Male" camps. I have e a T-shirt that reads " Just because I am Peaceful doesn't mean I have Forgotten how to be Violent." A much better way to be.
@@theGimpfantry Good post…Infantry training also includes skill learning (weapons, first aid, radios, etc.). The “alpha male” camps seem to be only about PT and hazing without actual learning.
American culture (e.g. think fraternities, football teams, military training) is replete with stories of the River of Styx challenges. Every year, always a story of a young men suffer who dies from hazing (often includes drinking) trying to prove a manhood. Humiliating you only makes you compliant and weakens you as a man with your own voice.
So, these idiots that sign up and pay for this actually think they are going to come out the other end as some sort of hard ass? If you are a meek and soft guy (which there is nothing wrong with that), how would getting screamed at for days on end suddenly make you strong and authoritative? Generally, being passive is from a lack of confidence - whether that be in a physical altercation, a verbal one, or just in general. Having someone berate you on end is not going to help with that! 🤣 People will buy in to any nonsense in this day and age!
Boxing/ mma lesson cost far less. Building a garden/deck, changing your oil/repaving your driveway is far cheaper. Just challenge your self. Accomplishing your goals enhances your character.
"Beta" and "alpha" aren't things when speaking of humans - the terms gained usage after erroneous research on captive wolves was made public, and the author retracted it once he realized his mistake, as wild wolves have a family structure, not alphas and betas.
I’m 69 years old and have seen some shit! I’ve seen men rise, I’ve seen men fall! It’s a confusing world for a lot of young men to grow up in today! This is some of the best advice I have heard! It is 100% truth!
This is probably the most important video I have seen on your channel. You have given very sound advice here. I hope men that are internally searching for who and what they are at their core realize that you are handing them the keys, but it is up to them to unlock and go through the door.
@@mickylawless1941 They're charging people with torture fetishes money to let them experience their torture fetish. The whole "alpha male" thing is ridiculous, but our economy is set up on charging people money for things they want. I don't really view this as all that different from charging people admission to a BDSM dungeon. It's the same mentality on the part of the client.
I got paid to do this when I joined the British army, and stayed for the next 20 years......interesting that our character building into combat engineers provided many skills and a mixture of psychology that does not fit the modern labels of " alpha, beta ,sigma " etc We were trained to become leaders and experts in our trades, but to also valid follow orders without hesitation, to take control of other soldiers but to also defer control to another if they were better suited, to immediately create a hierarchy that took account of competence but provided a place for all.
I joined the USMC at 19 and it definitely helped build character but it was all for something greater then myself. This is similar to cosplay especially when you have to pay for it
They're trying to simulate boot camp for guys who never went. But boot camp is only the beginning of the learning/maturing process in the military. You can't do that in a few days.
Love the message in this video. Learning to fight is basic to male primates. But in terms of self-mastery, it boggles me why some black belts become wise whereas others become total jerks.
Glad you summed it up so well and made that laughable despite being sad, a topic! I just watched some of your vids, because I had a situation with a loud and possible violent neighbour, who got untreated psychosis. Your videos were actually a big help in how to deal with that situation! Thx!
Thank you. Hope you get things sorted with your neighbour. It's always a contentious problem when someone lives next to you, as you can't often walk away..
Again, you have hit the nail on the head. I went into the United States Marines at 18. But there were 3 months of this. The difference is that they broke us down , but built us back up. Exactly as you stated. I came our a better person. Disciplined, confident and self aware. I didn't need to be agro on everyone. I had nothing to prove because I knew myself and my capabilities. That is also, as you say, someone who studies the martial arts. Well done, again
This video perfectly demonstrates a story about me. I had a friend who works in an office who'd done one of these bootcamps. He was telling me to I needed it would change my life. I told him, I will not allow anyone to scream in my face and talk down to me. The camp was a load of bullshit to me. I've train Muay Thai in Thailand and Australia for 25 years and fought in the ring. I'm acutely aware of my ability as a man.
"Being an Alpha is about asserting yourself, over yourself, it's not about aggression, it's about being disciplined, about being self aware" FightScience Brilliant! Respect. Good on ya, mate.
Any "man" who wants to scream, humiliate and fight other people is weak in every aspect. And they know it. That is why they feel the need to overcompensate.
Hello, former army here. As someone who went through something similar, the only thing here that is wrong is charging these people $ 18 000. This isnt about teaching men to be aggressive, but to show them they're not made of glass, amp up their confidence. The purpose behind this training is to break down the conditioning society, family, friends, and we ourselves put us, strip everything away to bare bones, to your core, and ask yourself "can I survive? Do I have what it takes?" When you find out that the answer is yes, you are empowered for the rest of your life because you have activated deep, primal, survival instincts. This is especially important for those who are timid, wether naturally or conditioned to be so. I hate the term alpha male because it's a gimmick. Very few people have even read the sexual/societal hierarchy, which tells us it's all BS because it's fractal. In one group, say at home, you're the alpha. At work you're not going to boss around the higher ups, so you might be a delta or beta. To your neighbors you might be a sigma. It goes on and on.
The alpha wolf thing is incorrect because it was derived from wolves in captivity... You wouldn't be taken seriously if you decided what human society was based on inmates..
I served for six years in the British Army in the 1990s. The point of training was never to humiliate, but to instill discipline, resilience, teamwork and perseverance. Leadership and initiative were glorified, however in my experience initiative was usually punished, and it took me years to understand leadership...
The methods used here are mostly from military training and, AFAIK, quite explicitly designed to 'break and remold' people into following orders and doing illogical things like running *towards* danger (in the broadest sense), i. e. exactly what soldiers need to do. Thus, it's the exact opposite of creating self-thinking, responsible adults. :-(
Man, this is just sad. And this is the biggest and saddest mistake. I think that men make. There’s a big difference between being aggressive and assertive. Aggression in a non-self-defense environment comes across as a mental illness or a weakness. In my life. I am an almost 60-year-old gay male. I live in the mountains. And I have a reputation not to be fucked with. Lol and not because I’m aggressive. Because I’m assertive. You can go about life being incredibly masculine and never have to use physical force. Mastering assertiveness. And the use of language and, following through with what you commit to. Are the highest forms of alpha male. To have character instead of being a character? That’s alpha male.
I’m reminded of an intro course I took at a martial art school. It just so happened to be a woman instructor that day. She yelled a lot to appear tough I guess. I just thought she seemed foolish and laughed whenever she yelled. I don’t understand what she thought yelling would accomplish. Needless to say, I didn’t return. Good instructors don’t yell, they educate and support. Drill instructors yell to create chaos to help recruits learn how to focus under stress, but the other instructors actually teaching skills aren’t yelling at recruits.
I agree with Dr. Philips. This boot camp looks a lot like Navy Seals hell week training, but here's the difference. Hell week isn't designed to develop character, but rather, it's designed to weed out those who don't already possess the character and will necessary to undergo the strictures of elite combat engagement. I believe that those who wash out of, or just eek through, this sort of three-day boot camp, featuring physical and emotional abuse, may wind up worse off in the long run ("yes, I am the loser I always feared I was"). Of course, if you get through it, you may come away with the knowledge that you're tougher than you thought. But bottom line, there is no quick fix for developing deep character traits. I've been a martial artist for almost thirty years, and a teaching black belt for nearly twenty-five. When I started, at age forty-four, I was that soft person. I am much different now, much tougher physically and, especially, emotionally. This didn't happen over a weekend.
That was really pathetic. The instructors are nothing but money grabbing fools taking advantage of guys who want to think they're gaining what the Army or Marines teach without actually being a soldier. It's like the dog catcher who really wanted to be a cop. THIS has no end game, and these guys are paying big bucks for it. The military pays you and there is an end game and they offer many different avenues if you serve. WTF is this?
Oh wow! Mark! I think I sparred with you in the Essex area around 25 years ago! I think my teacher was called Ian? Good to see you, brother! I went on to some very interesting things after. Be well.
I was like this during 80s and into the early nineties, I have long line of arrest records for fighting and brawling. I did not know back then about alpha male crap or anything like that. I just remember being very aggressive and I could not understand why. I never was a bully or picked a fight but I sure as hell ended them.
Former Briton, born and bred. Joined US Marines during Vietnam(1969). Bootcamp was, as expected, hellacious and "hands on". Some serious shit went down behind closed doors. Yet, I was quite proud of enduring it all. I suppose that's where the glory is. I have, however, seen the UK Marine videos and the omission of hazing and yelling. Not sure who is more effective, but I can say that FEAR and INTIMIDATION does reduce mind-wandering. Good times! Cheers!
If you want to be tough go to the Gracie Jiu Jitsu Academy or one of their schools. There is a HUGE difference in those that know Jiu Jitsu and those that dont.
Good points Dr Mark. Firstly as you say this concept of 'alpha ' male derives from evolutionary psychology which as you point out is based on animal behaviour. Human behaviours are much more complex diverse and less predictable. Secondly :who would you consider more 'alpha' : a well trained special forces operative ,so skilled and obedient that he would be willing to wipe out hundreds of women and children on command of his 'superiors'? Or a so called 'beta' male that would refuse to undertake such training,have his own sovereignty, having enough self knowledge that he would rather be shot or shoot his commander than slaughter those innocents ..... Darwinism and popular culture have a lot to answer on what it means to be a 'man'.
I don't think you need to learn a martial art or even to learn how to fight to gain confidence ( and I'm a boxing and SD coach) More that you need to do or have something that gives you pride and makes you feel good about yourself. That can be your job or your family or even a hobby, anything that gives do that feeling of accomplishment and self worth can make you feel like a Alpha male everyday.
And indeed, those wolf studies were roundly debunked, and the scientist who coined the term literally said he was wrong and repudiated/corrected his earlier papers.
I would've lost my temper. I can feel the blood rushing to my head just watching this. People judge me by the way I look because I've got an effeminate face, but when I lose it, it's like I become a different person. People have been shocked when they see me switch. It takes a lot to get me there, but once I feel that rush from the pit of my stomach to my head, that's it. I hate being shouted at.
Men need to know how to deal better with emotions rather than shut them down and only show the expected ones. They need better safe outlets and feeling safe about talking about emotions .
18K could pay for enough years of mma practice at a gym where not only would you mentally become stronger, more confident and more "alpha", but you'd also get in much better physical shape. So much better than any of these "alpha male" bootcamps.
These drill instructors disgust me. I live in Thailand with the usual Muay Thai training regime. The old coaches here are some of the toughest people that i ever met, but also the kindest people that i ever met. In contrast to the coaches in Europe they never get loud. The ability to stand the tough training regime needs to come from a “big heart”, as you would say in Thai, not from forced discipline or anger.
To be precise, a study about wolves in captivity, not being able to form a typical pack as in the wild, which is much closer from a family structure, alphas being literal mom and dad of the group.
Anyone who feels that they need to take this course to be an "alpha male", is not an alpha male and will not be one because of an abusive course. Self-confidence and self-esteem are not something a torture course will teach.
No Alpha males were used in the making of this video.
Did your wife’s boyfriend tell you that?
That's funny 🤣🤣
That's exactly what I was thinking. 😂
None were hurt lol
Exactly!
Getting punched around in the boxing ring, out of breath, sweaty, feeling like you want it to end while still throwing your own shots will teach you more than paying someone 18,000 $ to shout at you.
Boxing is the best. Just no nonsense training.
@@rinzler9775 I joined an MMA gym. I specifically focus on boxing. Yeah I do other stuff but having hands is more important to me. ATM. I’ve gotten over so much anxiety I can’t even describe how much it’s helped.
@@leewilson5389 actually, yes, i'm a Judo instructor but even i know that people usually go for punches in street fights and those types of altercations, so knowing your punches and how to defend against them and punishing your opponent for their punching mistakes is HUGE. Of course, grappling also happens often, good thing that you are doing mma already
@@jestfullgremblim8002 I’m thankful that practitioners like yourself exist and share knowledge. Even at my age of 40 I knew there was something missing. Always slightly on edge in public and it wasn’t just trying to be street wise. I was aggressive due to a lack of confidence. Month by month - it’s healing.
@@leewilson5389 great, go ahead! As you might find in other martial art related channels, i know about many arts and i would be happy to answer any questions, martial arts are what i like, after all.
My grandfather served in WW1 (fought at Vimy), and my father in WW2. Both have passed, but neither of them demonstrated the characteristic alpha behaviours. They treated everybody with kindness and respect, never played the "military" card, and were both humble men. Those who talk the most and the loudest are seldom the most brave. Beware of the quiet men who don't need that kind of validation.
Copy that!
That's what real "alphas" behave like.
A real alpha, protects the lack, not abuse the pack.
Real alpha eats after the pack has eaten, not taking first share. Etc.
Just about everyone who claims they're alpha isnt
The most effective people never have to tell you.
My grandfather was in WW1- in the Royal Flying Corp. (prior to it becoming the RAF)- he flew over the Somme, he never glorified war. I don't think many that have actually been in a war glorify it, they remain humble and hope it never happens again.
True that bruv
This isn't about teaching men to be stronger individuals. This is about teaching men to blindly follow a leader.
My dad was a drill instructor at fort Benning in the sixty's.
He told me to always without fail question authority.
Bs, it’s about being mentally strong and realizing no matter how difficult the situation a man will survive and continue .
Nah.this is a couple of bullies who figured out a way to bully people and not only get away with it ,but to get paid for it
@@mjones9088 BS LMAO
@David-qx8jm your dad was badass
Ironically, wouldn't an alpha male refuse to be treated like that in the first place? Like at the very least, surely being "alpha" means having some self respect.
Right
Yeah. And they pay a lot to get treated like that 😂
bang on the money comment ,just my thought
Well, it's not even a thing that's real, so no. There is no such thing as an alpha male human. It does make one a b*tch, though. A dominant or type A human male probably won't feel the need to draw too much attention to it. It'll be obvious to everyone around them, should they choose to express it.
I saw plenty of Alpha's taking sh*t during Special Forces training in the UK 20 years ago.
Sociopaths and narcissists getting paid to peacock and bully & abuse weaker people. What could go wrong?!
One would have to be a real wimp to feel intimidated by these clowns lmao.
This was just plain bastar disation.
1:33 disgusting and appalling, repulsive
Imagine paying $18,000 for this nonsense.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 chumps
I can do it for free! I AM A MAN AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! lol
Imagine paying $18...
Trenbolone wouod be a lot cheaper lmao
imagine paying this dude 18k to tell you that you don't deserve to stand behind a Wal-Mart store.
I did this a long time ago and got paid for it.
All I see here is a bunch of guys that regret not serving in the military.
Agreed. They seem to be acting out. Perhaps they missed the Call.
LOL! I think you nailed it.
@@slowdancer5563 Thanks, brother!
@@fightscience I've seen it time and again, a lot at gun ranges. The people, almost unanimously male, that want to talk most about military things are the ones that, as you so accurately and succinctly say, "Missed the call."
bingo
Paying 18 thousand dollars to people who have absolutely no idea of what they are doing.
Lol
They're ex Navy SEALS instructors. Better off calling it "Boot Camp for men who regret not joining the military to begin"?
Happens every second of every day.
Oh they know exactly what they are doing. Ka-ching!
Just got my latest business model. 😎 I never would have seen it as being viable, or sustainable.
Apparently, there are more pathetic people with money than I ever knew.
My son has been learning karate since he was 5. Now he is 21. This is the best gift you can give to your child.
Take up a combat sport and stick to it. It's cheaper, and you'll actually benefit from it.
Well said brada
I respect a 12 year old airsofter more.
@aaftiyoDkcdicurak Airsoft can be good training, too!
@@aaftiyoDkcdicurak they've been in the trenches
Trauma bonding...it indeed weakens you. Cults depend on it.
Lmao they'll be back for more as soon as they come up with another 18k
In Finland we have this word, myötähäpeä, "co-shame"; the feeling when you see someone doing something embarrassing.. that they're often not ashamed of, so you end up feeling the shame for them. Secondhand embarrassment. It's what I feel when I see this. Seems more accurate than mere "cringe".
In Britain we just say "American"
"Fremdschämen" in German. Felt that too while watching 😂
Scandinavian socialism the "nice and polite" but look rhe other way type of mentality??? In Minnesota there is this toxic widespread mentality with Native born people who do "Mn Nice" it is the most toxic and shaming, dehumanizing thing i have ever been around
They treat men like me as invisible and insignificant. One reason i don't trust or believe people from ScandinavianGerman cultures and people. Fake as rubber dogsh*t.
Myötistä
@@Purwapada
In America, we just pity you. You can’t even lawfully defend yourself in Britain, talk about embarrassing.
There's something hilarious about a dude with the words 'alpha male' in brackets after his name on social media. If he has to broadcast it, he isn't it. The way that these guys project themselves is pretty toxic, for the most part.
I'm the King of underpants!😄
The dudes that run this programs laugh at these dudes.
yep probably think they are all betas for allowing themselves to be treated like that.
The military doesn't built strong characters. It builts obedient tools.
What you see those guys doing has nothing to do with the military.Military training has a purpose and structure.Completely different from the mess displayed by those so called instructors.
@@peterradford4660 Tools have a purpose.
The military was instrumental in me not going down a path that would have led me to prison, so I have to wholeheartedly disagree with you there.
@@Nak_Muay_Farang11 In the military I got in touch with drugs and alcohol. A lot of guys I met in my time in service ended up unemployed or doing prison time. I don't care if you disagree.
You want to be an Alpha male. Own yourself. Live as you see fit in and what makes you happy, without hurting anybody else.
Perfect. The "without hurting anyone else" is what so many don't understand in all walks of life, from religious zealots to narcissists to the type of men we see running the "training" in this video to so many more. The need to hurt others comes from a place of pain, hurt and/or insecurity.
This is getting hoodwinked into paying for the abusive father you never had. It is absolutely criminal and inhumane.
Why don't they join the Marines or French Foreign Legion...."What have we here!!! .......A JELLY DONUT!!!"😂😂😂
At least they get PAID!
Marines and French Foreign Legion also teach combat skills (I.e. weapons, first aid, etc.). These wannabes are simply doing exercise and getting berated with no actual learning.
@@weirdo1060 and $18,000 less
The Legion is a five year commitment and the USMC is an eight year commitment. That's likely why these chaps don't sign up. Also... there's not a lot of money coming your way in a military career. It's ok money... you'll be just fine if you are reasonable... but not big $$$ by any means.
@@haggis525 Being a Legionnaire comes with French citizenship and all the benefits that come with it, ones Americans can only dream of like medical care which won't bankrupt you, worker protection, a dignified retirement, and a society which values cooperation
Thank you for pointing out the lower animal pack origin of the term Alpha male. Men should strive to exceed animal behavior not imitate it.
We are 100% animals and are not "higher" than other animals. The fact that you can talk and know how to drive a stick shift doesn't change that. Btw, even animal behavior isn't what you think it is.
@@danr5462this is bullshit. Alpha/beta sociology does not apply to modern human society. There are just too many people in too small a space for this sort of nonsense to apply. Most of the people who run the world are nerds mate. You think Mark Zuckerberg or Elon Musk would be alphas in early human communities, no chance. It is just an excuse for losers who want to be special or aggressive people who want to excuse their shitty behaviour.
the "alpha male" label was dispelled by the scientist that coined the term. Upon further studies they saw that it was a misunderstanding of how the wolf pack behaved. But the term has stuck around like it was fact.
@@danr5462 Among social animals the ability to form coalitions of friends and allies is incredibly important, much more than being the biggest and meanest. And even among harem species - which humans aren't such as horses, cows, lions, and gorillas, success is usually due to the "aunties". The older females know local conditions, food sources, dangers, and terrain. The lion or Silverback might have blown in over the ridge literally last week.
@@danr5462
We are higher animals because we are of higher intelligence. We can choose to ignore our natural instincts. The reason the statues of ancient European men have small genitals is because they found genitalia vulgar because it evokes beastliness. A great man is a person of strong mind. Meanwhile, other cultures revered genitalia because they prized their bestial nature rather than intellect, which is reflected in their societies to this day.
The real way to "graduate" from these scams is to demand a refund.
Damn right!
No refund 😂
The instructors at this “alpha male” camp have dubious backgrounds. One was a U.S. Marine mechanic who chose not to continue serving after September 11th. Another was also Marine special operations, but had his gym involuntarily closed for violating COVID safety rules.
At least he didn’t buy into the biggest scam in the history of the world.
After all we know about the made up covid "rules" your 2nd example doesn't even have an negative connotation.
Nothing wrong with the second part
@@michaelmarch8997I agree with your comment
Forget the labels guys. You're not Alpha, Beta, nor Sigma. You're YOU!
It’s a thing of this age. People take a useful but broad concept with a million holes, and mistake it for an iron law of nature.
As an old Infantry soldier who experienced all this yelling and humiliation in military training, Dr. You could not have been more right. Thankyou for pointing out the flaws of the "Alpha Male" camps. I have e a T-shirt that reads " Just because I am Peaceful doesn't mean I have Forgotten how to be Violent." A much better way to be.
@@theGimpfantry Good post…Infantry training also includes skill learning (weapons, first aid, radios, etc.). The “alpha male” camps seem to be only about PT and hazing without actual learning.
i cant even watch this level of cringe 😂
Funny thing is the best way to toughen up a man is to start with the emotional baggage, not physical
American culture (e.g. think fraternities, football teams, military training) is replete with stories of the River of Styx challenges. Every year, always a story of a young men suffer who dies from hazing (often includes drinking) trying to prove a manhood. Humiliating you only makes you compliant and weakens you as a man with your own voice.
Want to get yelled at for free, just get married!
😂
But it's not free! That yelling costs a fortune, but at least it's easy to learn how to trigger it.
💯 percent! Although if you get divorced it will cost a lot more than 18 K.
Marriage isn't free. LOL
In what universe do you think marriage is free??
Any man that pays money for this wannabe tough guy abuse.... Should see a psychiatrist. Quickly.
Go take a martial arts class,it's cheaper and you learn how to defend your self.
So, these idiots that sign up and pay for this actually think they are going to come out the other end as some sort of hard ass? If you are a meek and soft guy (which there is nothing wrong with that), how would getting screamed at for days on end suddenly make you strong and authoritative? Generally, being passive is from a lack of confidence - whether that be in a physical altercation, a verbal one, or just in general. Having someone berate you on end is not going to help with that! 🤣
People will buy in to any nonsense in this day and age!
Boxing/ mma lesson cost far less. Building a garden/deck, changing your oil/repaving your driveway is far cheaper. Just challenge your self. Accomplishing your goals enhances your character.
"Beta" and "alpha" aren't things when speaking of humans - the terms gained usage after erroneous research on captive wolves was made public, and the author retracted it once he realized his mistake, as wild wolves have a family structure, not alphas and betas.
I’m 69 years old and have seen some shit! I’ve seen men rise, I’ve seen men fall! It’s a confusing world for a lot of young men to grow up in today! This is some of the best advice I have heard! It is 100% truth!
This video reminds me of the movement in the 80s to connect with your inner caveman or some other silly nonsense.
This is probably the most important video I have seen on your channel. You have given very sound advice here. I hope men that are internally searching for who and what they are at their core realize that you are handing them the keys, but it is up to them to unlock and go through the door.
This is abuse.
This is straight up fucking abuse.
Those instructors are no alphas.
Those instructors are sociopaths!
Truth. Nothing in those camps but grifters and jackasses
@@mickylawless1941 They're charging people with torture fetishes money to let them experience their torture fetish. The whole "alpha male" thing is ridiculous, but our economy is set up on charging people money for things they want.
I don't really view this as all that different from charging people admission to a BDSM dungeon. It's the same mentality on the part of the client.
I got paid to do this when I joined the British army, and stayed for the next 20 years......interesting that our character building into combat engineers provided many skills and a mixture of psychology that does not fit the modern labels of " alpha, beta ,sigma " etc
We were trained to become leaders and experts in our trades, but to also valid follow orders without hesitation, to take control of other soldiers but to also defer control to another if they were better suited, to immediately create a hierarchy that took account of competence but provided a place for all.
I joined the USMC at 19 and it definitely helped build character but it was all for something greater then myself. This is similar to cosplay especially when you have to pay for it
It would probably be cheaper and more fun for them to just hire a dominatrix.
Learning to fight is about self reassurance….. that’s one of the best comments I’ve ever heard…
A Soldier follows orders, a Warrior follows ideals
Excellent way to put it.
Imagine how morbidly hilarious it’d be if a dojo crusher took a side quest onto one of those “boot camps”
They're trying to simulate boot camp for guys who never went. But boot camp is only the beginning of the learning/maturing process in the military. You can't do that in a few days.
Love the message in this video. Learning to fight is basic to male primates. But in terms of self-mastery, it boggles me why some black belts become wise whereas others become total jerks.
Denigrating someone has zero to do with being Alpha.
Power Slap now has competition for the stupidest spectacle for a person to enter.
Umm , I subscribe to the Samuel Colt theory “ God made man , Sam Colt made em equal “
I agree with my man. Learn to fight! Knowing you can go one on one with anybody really helps your confidence...
The perfect job for a narcissist
Glad you summed it up so well and made that laughable despite being sad, a topic!
I just watched some of your vids, because I had a situation with a loud and possible violent neighbour, who got untreated psychosis.
Your videos were actually a big help in how to deal with that situation!
Thx!
Thank you. Hope you get things sorted with your neighbour. It's always a contentious problem when someone lives next to you, as you can't often walk away..
Being an alpha Isn’t about dictatorship, it’s about leadership.
The feminist movement was made possible by the alpha male 😂
Grown up men playing militia instead of joining the army for real 😂😂😂😂
I once read an FBI checklist as to what constitutes as a cult. Interesting reading.
Anyhooooo...
Again, you have hit the nail on the head. I went into the United States Marines at 18. But there were 3 months of this. The difference is that they broke us down , but built us back up. Exactly as you stated. I came our a better person. Disciplined, confident and self aware. I didn't need to be agro on everyone. I had nothing to prove because I knew myself and my capabilities. That is also, as you say, someone who studies the martial arts. Well done, again
This video perfectly demonstrates a story about me.
I had a friend who works in an office who'd done one of these bootcamps. He was telling me to I needed it would change my life. I told him, I will not allow anyone to scream in my face and talk down to me. The camp was a load of bullshit to me. I've train Muay Thai in Thailand and Australia for 25 years and fought in the ring. I'm acutely aware of my ability as a man.
These people pay for this camp? They cannot become what they're not...
"Being an Alpha is about asserting yourself, over yourself, it's not about aggression, it's about being disciplined, about being self aware"
FightScience
Brilliant! Respect.
Good on ya, mate.
Any "man" who wants to scream, humiliate and fight other people is weak in every aspect. And they know it. That is why they feel the need to overcompensate.
Hello, former army here. As someone who went through something similar, the only thing here that is wrong is charging these people $ 18 000. This isnt about teaching men to be aggressive, but to show them they're not made of glass, amp up their confidence. The purpose behind this training is to break down the conditioning society, family, friends, and we ourselves put us, strip everything away to bare bones, to your core, and ask yourself "can I survive? Do I have what it takes?"
When you find out that the answer is yes, you are empowered for the rest of your life because you have activated deep, primal, survival instincts. This is especially important for those who are timid, wether naturally or conditioned to be so.
I hate the term alpha male because it's a gimmick. Very few people have even read the sexual/societal hierarchy, which tells us it's all BS because it's fractal. In one group, say at home, you're the alpha. At work you're not going to boss around the higher ups, so you might be a delta or beta. To your neighbors you might be a sigma. It goes on and on.
The alpha wolf thing is incorrect because it was derived from wolves in captivity... You wouldn't be taken seriously if you decided what human society was based on inmates..
I served for six years in the British Army in the 1990s.
The point of training was never to humiliate, but to instill discipline, resilience, teamwork and perseverance.
Leadership and initiative were glorified, however in my experience initiative was usually punished, and it took me years to understand leadership...
Imagine getting ready for war just so you can go home and face your family instead.
The methods used here are mostly from military training and, AFAIK, quite explicitly designed to 'break and remold' people into following orders and doing illogical things like running *towards* danger (in the broadest sense), i. e. exactly what soldiers need to do.
Thus, it's the exact opposite of creating self-thinking, responsible adults. :-(
“Asserting yourself-over yourself. Mastering discipline.” Bravo. Thank you, sir. #alphamale
Man, this is just sad. And this is the biggest and saddest mistake. I think that men make. There’s a big difference between being aggressive and assertive. Aggression in a non-self-defense environment comes across as a mental illness or a weakness. In my life. I am an almost 60-year-old gay male. I live in the mountains. And I have a reputation not to be fucked with. Lol and not because I’m aggressive. Because I’m assertive. You can go about life being incredibly masculine and never have to use physical force. Mastering assertiveness. And the use of language and, following through with what you commit to. Are the highest forms of alpha male. To have character instead of being a character? That’s alpha male.
I’m reminded of an intro course I took at a martial art school. It just so happened to be a woman instructor that day. She yelled a lot to appear tough I guess. I just thought she seemed foolish and laughed whenever she yelled. I don’t understand what she thought yelling would accomplish. Needless to say, I didn’t return. Good instructors don’t yell, they educate and support. Drill instructors yell to create chaos to help recruits learn how to focus under stress, but the other instructors actually teaching skills aren’t yelling at recruits.
I'm retired from the military. This boot camp stuff is meant for military and law enforcement. Not civilians.
I agree with Dr. Philips. This boot camp looks a lot like Navy Seals hell week training, but here's the difference. Hell week isn't designed to develop character, but rather, it's designed to weed out those who don't already possess the character and will necessary to undergo the strictures of elite combat engagement. I believe that those who wash out of, or just eek through, this sort of three-day boot camp, featuring physical and emotional abuse, may wind up worse off in the long run ("yes, I am the loser I always feared I was"). Of course, if you get through it, you may come away with the knowledge that you're tougher than you thought. But bottom line, there is no quick fix for developing deep character traits. I've been a martial artist for almost thirty years, and a teaching black belt for nearly twenty-five. When I started, at age forty-four, I was that soft person. I am much different now, much tougher physically and, especially, emotionally. This didn't happen over a weekend.
That was really pathetic. The instructors are nothing but money grabbing fools taking advantage of guys who want to think they're gaining what the Army or Marines teach without actually being a soldier. It's like the dog catcher who really wanted to be a cop. THIS has no end game, and these guys are paying big bucks for it. The military pays you and there is an end game and they offer many different avenues if you serve. WTF is this?
Oh wow! Mark! I think I sparred with you in the Essex area around 25 years ago! I think my teacher was called Ian? Good to see you, brother! I went on to some very interesting things after. Be well.
I was like this during 80s and into the early nineties, I have long line of arrest records for fighting and brawling. I did not know back then about alpha male crap or anything like that. I just remember being very aggressive and I could not understand why. I never was a bully or picked a fight but I sure as hell ended them.
military and learning to box did little for my improvement....really recommend getting experience in multiple trades.
Reminiscent of the difference between US military basic training and British Commonwealth.
A lot less petty harassment and hollering.
Former Briton, born and bred. Joined US Marines during Vietnam(1969). Bootcamp was, as expected, hellacious and "hands on". Some serious shit went down behind closed doors. Yet, I was quite proud of enduring it all. I suppose that's where the glory is. I have, however, seen the UK Marine videos and the omission of hazing and yelling. Not sure who is more effective, but I can say that FEAR and INTIMIDATION does reduce mind-wandering. Good times! Cheers!
If you want to be tough go to the Gracie Jiu Jitsu Academy or one of their schools. There is a HUGE difference in those that know Jiu Jitsu and those that dont.
Good points Dr Mark. Firstly as you say this concept of 'alpha ' male derives from evolutionary psychology which as you point out is based on animal behaviour. Human behaviours are much more complex diverse and less predictable.
Secondly :who would you consider more 'alpha' : a well trained special forces operative ,so skilled and obedient that he would be willing to wipe out hundreds of women and children on command of his 'superiors'?
Or a so called 'beta' male that would refuse to undertake such training,have his own sovereignty, having enough self knowledge that he would rather be shot or shoot his commander than slaughter those innocents ..... Darwinism and popular culture have a lot to answer on what it means to be a 'man'.
I don't think you need to learn a martial art or even to learn how to fight to gain confidence ( and I'm a boxing and SD coach) More that you need to do or have something that gives you pride and makes you feel good about yourself. That can be your job or your family or even a hobby, anything that gives do that feeling of accomplishment and self worth can make you feel like a Alpha male everyday.
18 Grand? Some people have too much money...and free time.
I almost went to this same exact boot camp. I'm glad I didn't. They actually lowered the price to $6000. Still not worth it.
pay for humiliation...i will pass
And indeed, those wolf studies were roundly debunked, and the scientist who coined the term literally said he was wrong and repudiated/corrected his earlier papers.
I would've lost my temper. I can feel the blood rushing to my head just watching this. People judge me by the way I look because I've got an effeminate face, but when I lose it, it's like I become a different person. People have been shocked when they see me switch. It takes a lot to get me there, but once I feel that rush from the pit of my stomach to my head, that's it. I hate being shouted at.
As a person who did a mandatory and went after to learn martial arts - i cant tell how much im solidraity with this video!!✊️
Exactly, a dangerous man choosing peace and gentleness is the best kind of man
This surprised me. I can’t imagine anyone paying money for that.
Good point on learning to fight.
Men need to know how to deal better with emotions rather than shut them down and only show the expected ones. They need better safe outlets and feeling safe about talking about emotions .
18K could pay for enough years of mma practice at a gym where not only would you mentally become stronger, more confident and more "alpha", but you'd also get in much better physical shape. So much better than any of these "alpha male" bootcamps.
Would joining the Kenyan police to keep peace in Haiti turn me into an alpha real fast?
Is anyone learning how to help the less fortunate or just helping others and being a good person?
What a waste, if not.
Well said. I think you are spot on. There are many more layers to being Alpha. Thanks again. Keep up the great content!
Why am I reminded of EST and the old "Industrial Psychology" courses for business men my father was apid to attend?
These drill instructors disgust me. I live in Thailand with the usual Muay Thai training regime. The old coaches here are some of the toughest people that i ever met, but also the kindest people that i ever met. In contrast to the coaches in Europe they never get loud. The ability to stand the tough training regime needs to come from a “big heart”, as you would say in Thai, not from forced discipline or anger.
Great video and debunking this alpha male BS. There are so many more aspects to becoming a good man than depicted in those alpha male bootcamps.
ROFL!
You know how to spot the"Alpha" in the room: You never knew he was there.
This is absolute assklownery, at its finest.
One can spend less than $2k a year and learn some Bjj/striking. They'll learn more about themselves than they ever knew.
Spot on , ive 3 sons, all have learned boxing from 8 yrs, all are confident, calm and the 1st 2 successful while the 3rd is starting high school
To be precise, a study about wolves in captivity, not being able to form a typical pack as in the wild, which is much closer from a family structure, alphas being literal mom and dad of the group.
' Better to be a Warrior in a garden than a Gardner in a War. '
These men will now need $36,000 worth of therapy to get back on track
OMG! LMAO!!
You're not joking!
Naw...that's another bunch of malarkey with handsome financial rewards.
They found a market and exploited it. Simple business
Knock out the toughest guy there, now you're the alpha
Anyone who feels that they need to take this course to be an "alpha male", is not an alpha male and will not be one because of an abusive course. Self-confidence and self-esteem are not something a torture course will teach.