The Dark Angels are the most disappointing in the lore. They are supposed to be knights, but narratively they get stuck in a "Mother may I" cycle of honor in almost all their books. They are supposed to be Secretive, but instead they seem insecure through their gaslighting of most of their legion. this "secretiveness" is so overt, they fuck over imperial forces all of the time for their "honor" and the most abhorrent part: They don't have a personality. They're just the "first". the mean the green, the bland. Only half decisive thing they balled into was sacrificing the Imperator Somnium in a bid to fix the astronomican during the seige. After that, bland self service with a side of asshole. Honestly i just ever wanted to see WHY they were the first, the tech, the barbarity, the tactics. Instead the DA in the books just circle jerk themselves mostly, till cypher or the Lion shows up. my 2c
Ok, my personal theory. Cypher IS the same Lord Cypher that was elected to the position after being spared by the Lion during the destruction of the Order of the Knights of Lupus as the library of the Knights of Lupus had hundreds, possibly thousands of tomes and scrolls about the nature of Caliban and Chaos, encounter Lion spent a month in solitude reading. The Lion recognised the threat of Chaos and appointed this new Cypher to be a guide, advisor and a watcher, hence why he left him on Caliban to watch over Luther and to carry out a secret mission for the Lion...a mission I think he may have partially completed. We haven't seen inside the Emperor's throne room since Guiliman's return to Terra and I suspect next time we do...we will see the Lion Sword at the feet of the Throne, repaired and this is what caused the Emperor to revive his first Son.
I guess, most of the Fallen have been in the 41st Millenium for around 250-400 years, some much more, some far less. Given that Cypher clearly Warp surfs around the Galaxy, its impossible to tell.
I think he's a part of Lion El Johnson soul that came loose when the watchers in the dark took him after his fight with Luther at the destruction of Caliban
A cool idea but it the Horns Heresy makes this untrue. A new Lord Cypher was chosen after the death of the elderly holder of the title who was Lord when the Dark Angels were still the Order and a new, younger man was chosen but none of the Order members could claim to of knew of him before taking the mantle and I personally believe it is a man who held the same position in the Order that the Lion and his knights destroyed before being found by the Emperor in a siege in the North Wilds. later in the Heresy, it is noted that Zahariel, who aided with Luther was fond of using a bolt pistol and a plasma pistol and was last seen about to duel the legendary Corswain. To my knowledge it is not yet revealed who won and the winner became the new Cypher, or so is speculated. The role of the Lord Cypher is important as well as back in the days of the Order on Caliban, the Lord Cypher was the keeper of secrets, history and traditions of the Order and acted as sort of a Librarian and Chaplain in the same position and I suspect that Cypher now is doing a twisted version of it, carrying the sword and wearing matching armour to his loyalist brothers (I could be wrong about this now as he used to wear the forest green but the latest model shows him in the Legion colours of black and red so I don't know if this is a retcon or not) and carrying the Lion Sword in hope of asking for redemption at the very of the Emperor...and to slay him so he may be reborn as his time with the Eldar has probably revealed to him the perpetual nature of the Emperor...just no one is going to trust him on that but he is loose again after escaping the Dark Cells.
I love this guy's videos but like during the video he contradicts himself he says that he's on the side of chaos and then later in the video he says that nobody knows if he's on the side of chaos or the side of loyalty it just don't make no sense and I've never heard that he's on the side of chaos before so I don't know I guess that's his enigma but I don't think Gilman would have brought him to the emperor if he thought that he was using chaos where was tainted by it yeah he was working with Harley Quinn but there's inquisitors that work with harlequins so you can't really say somebody's chaos just because they work with harlequins
He works with whoever serves his current purpose and nobody knows where his true loyalty lies. Context for readers seems to imply he is still loyal to the Emperor and wants to kill him to free him. Big E seems to trust him as he spoke through a dead custodes and told him “not yet” when we has coming close to the throne with the lion’s sword so he just left Terra without question. Him being so lucky and competent all the time regardless of odds also seems to imply the Emperor works through him. But we still only have speculation and context.
My personal theory: cypher is a dark angel who gave up on the imperium seeing it's moral failure. He went to the Tau and works as a double agent between chaos and humanity to gather information and create instability. Hence his stealth, his lack of aging and the fact that he keeps ending up captured in the heart of the Dark Angel's fortresses (where imperial secrets might be kept).
cool whats funny is for how much we like him there is not meny deep dives on him in all the lore vids and i been waching before vaults of tarra lol rember the days it was metal music and text on you tube?
since the last time the DA fcked over, zahariel the psyker took over as cypher, finding a way to terra to kill the emperor to let him come back as the eternal he is... to flip the coin towards humankind
"No one could predict that Horus would betray the Emperor" ... lol ... seems to me like the Emperor knew he was going to be betrayed since that was his intention all along in his planned path to god hood. Instead he's spent 10,000 years as a half dead Icon while his loyal servants feed him human souls. Good job "God-Emperor", good job indeed. Hahaha *Let the galaxy burn.*
I just can't understand why 1st legion gets so much air time... Think VIII legion and we have a real primarch, the greatest 1st captain, and the only legion that killn d not 1,not 2, but 3primarchs in one day that had to be saved by two types of demo tech... Seriously, 11st legion sucks ass
Night Lords? Seriously? Okay... whatever floats your boat. Crazy sociopath who gets his kicks by torturing and terrorizing, but lacks any real combat or strategic aptitude hardly qualifies as a real primarch. Next you'll say Lorgar was a secular paragon.
@@Sol4Soul Angels... Using xeno tech, Half of them are loyal to a heretic, the other half to another heretic, only he has big wavy blonde hair and had to be saved by... xeno tech. Angel are a pack of alien lovers... The Tau are living proof that the Dark Angels boinked a cow.
The Lord Cypher was initially a title held by a secretly chosen Knight of Caliban before the integration of the Lion into the Imperium. Many traditions of the Order of Knights of Caliban were themselves integrated into the 1st Legion. It may not be a cool name but in truth it is a forgotten title.
At least the new thumbnail doesn't look like absolute heresy this time around (And yes I've seen the selfie one, which was highly sacrilegous)
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Keanu Reeves as Cypher would be awesome. We know the guy can wield pistols like a beast so seems like a great fit.
nah, as an assassine maybe... the sniper one. cena could be a eversor
The Dark Angels are the most disappointing in the lore.
They are supposed to be knights, but narratively they get stuck in a "Mother may I" cycle of honor in almost all their books.
They are supposed to be Secretive, but instead they seem insecure through their gaslighting of most of their legion.
this "secretiveness" is so overt, they fuck over imperial forces all of the time for their "honor"
and the most abhorrent part: They don't have a personality.
They're just the "first". the mean the green, the bland.
Only half decisive thing they balled into was sacrificing the Imperator Somnium in a bid to fix the astronomican during the seige.
After that, bland self service with a side of asshole.
Honestly i just ever wanted to see WHY they were the first, the tech, the barbarity, the tactics. Instead the DA in the books just circle jerk themselves mostly, till cypher or the Lion shows up.
my 2c
This may be best Cypher lore video I've watched yet 🤘
Ok, my personal theory. Cypher IS the same Lord Cypher that was elected to the position after being spared by the Lion during the destruction of the Order of the Knights of Lupus as the library of the Knights of Lupus had hundreds, possibly thousands of tomes and scrolls about the nature of Caliban and Chaos, encounter Lion spent a month in solitude reading. The Lion recognised the threat of Chaos and appointed this new Cypher to be a guide, advisor and a watcher, hence why he left him on Caliban to watch over Luther and to carry out a secret mission for the Lion...a mission I think he may have partially completed. We haven't seen inside the Emperor's throne room since Guiliman's return to Terra and I suspect next time we do...we will see the Lion Sword at the feet of the Throne, repaired and this is what caused the Emperor to revive his first Son.
What's interesting is that Cypher should be just as old as Dante but no description of him ever shows him having been ragged with age.
Perhaps spends lots of time in the Warp where time is different or his name is a title which many men have held unbeknownst to everyone else.
Cypher has probably spent a load of time in the warp and warp affected areas where time moves differently
I guess, most of the Fallen have been in the 41st Millenium for around 250-400 years, some much more, some far less.
Given that Cypher clearly Warp surfs around the Galaxy, its impossible to tell.
Maybe Cypher is Omegon? Or Alpharius?
Cypher was in the heresy. How in this universe is he the same age as Dante. Do you even know the lore or are you trolling
Jeez, subs seem to rise^ 400+ A DAY!...'Jus last Friday such was @ 24K, pushin 27K today. WELL done work. Look forward to these EVERY day!...;)
Already missing the original thumbnail picture, but a great upload nonetheless. Thank you again for sharing, I could listen to this voice forever.
Cypher is the 40k version of the Pretender (For those that remember that TV Show)
Pretender, Profiler, and Dark Skies was a great block of TV.
loved that show!
I'll pretend I never watched it as I'm a pretender that doesn't like how old I feel.
We need more info on the Watchers in the Dark of Caliban ❤
Yes!! My iterator thank you. Im fascinated by this character almost more than any other in 40k
I think he's a part of Lion El Johnson soul that came loose when the watchers in the dark took him after his fight with Luther at the destruction of Caliban
That is beyond ridiculous.
A cool idea but it the Horns Heresy makes this untrue. A new Lord Cypher was chosen after the death of the elderly holder of the title who was Lord when the Dark Angels were still the Order and a new, younger man was chosen but none of the Order members could claim to of knew of him before taking the mantle and I personally believe it is a man who held the same position in the Order that the Lion and his knights destroyed before being found by the Emperor in a siege in the North Wilds.
later in the Heresy, it is noted that Zahariel, who aided with Luther was fond of using a bolt pistol and a plasma pistol and was last seen about to duel the legendary Corswain. To my knowledge it is not yet revealed who won and the winner became the new Cypher, or so is speculated.
The role of the Lord Cypher is important as well as back in the days of the Order on Caliban, the Lord Cypher was the keeper of secrets, history and traditions of the Order and acted as sort of a Librarian and Chaplain in the same position and I suspect that Cypher now is doing a twisted version of it, carrying the sword and wearing matching armour to his loyalist brothers (I could be wrong about this now as he used to wear the forest green but the latest model shows him in the Legion colours of black and red so I don't know if this is a retcon or not) and carrying the Lion Sword in hope of asking for redemption at the very of the Emperor...and to slay him so he may be reborn as his time with the Eldar has probably revealed to him the perpetual nature of the Emperor...just no one is going to trust him on that but he is loose again after escaping the Dark Cells.
Did Cypher had psyker powers? Does he have access to the webway?
😅😅😅😂 love the thumbnail 😊 and of course the lore 😊
I love this guy's videos but like during the video he contradicts himself he says that he's on the side of chaos and then later in the video he says that nobody knows if he's on the side of chaos or the side of loyalty it just don't make no sense and I've never heard that he's on the side of chaos before so I don't know I guess that's his enigma but I don't think Gilman would have brought him to the emperor if he thought that he was using chaos where was tainted by it yeah he was working with Harley Quinn but there's inquisitors that work with harlequins so you can't really say somebody's chaos just because they work with harlequins
He works with whoever serves his current purpose and nobody knows where his true loyalty lies.
Context for readers seems to imply he is still loyal to the Emperor and wants to kill him to free him. Big E seems to trust him as he spoke through a dead custodes and told him “not yet” when we has coming close to the throne with the lion’s sword so he just left Terra without question.
Him being so lucky and competent all the time regardless of odds also seems to imply the Emperor works through him.
But we still only have speculation and context.
@@FormerGovernmentHuman Harlequins, not Harley Quinn ...
Cypher is... he's more a rogue agent. A good comparison for him would be Punisher. He's not a good guy, but not a bad guy either.
A game of the Order before the coming of the Lion would be awesome. Arceo-tech Arthurian knights hunting forest beasts. Hell yeah!
Excellent topic!!
I personally theorize that Cypher is operating on a mission that only he, The Emperor, and his Primarch know about.
My personal theory: cypher is a dark angel who gave up on the imperium seeing it's moral failure. He went to the Tau and works as a double agent between chaos and humanity to gather information and create instability. Hence his stealth, his lack of aging and the fact that he keeps ending up captured in the heart of the Dark Angel's fortresses (where imperial secrets might be kept).
I think he's like John Connor and he can time travel because of the warp.
cool whats funny is for how much we like him there is not meny deep dives on him in all the lore vids and i been waching before vaults of tarra lol rember the days it was metal music and text on you tube?
Vault of terra lol im still subscribed unless its gone.
me to
since the last time the DA fcked over, zahariel the psyker took over as cypher, finding a way to terra to kill the emperor to let him come back as the eternal he is... to flip the coin towards humankind
"Unfinished plot" ultimate armor.
Hey! What happened to the selfie thumb? The face was awesome!
Thank you
The warp magic you are using to animate the images causes massive facial mutations. A flamer will have to be taken to all of the images in your stock.
Ignorance is bliss
Ohhh soooOOoo mysteriously exhilerating...
Imagine how many chapters hide their secrets like the dark angels?
As the 1st has dark age technology, is he one?
So who is the guy? Is he a Perpetual or something?
Cypher ist The Doctor of the WH 40k universe.
I to believe he can time travel using the warp
@@crow4936 Yeah, that sould be possible.
"Some suspect he is connected to the Dark Angels and their successor Chapters".
Some? The scripts feel like ChatGPT without proof reading.
because it is
he didn't fall to chaos.....
is cypher in storm of iron?
Sounds like some Tzeentch shenanigans to me...
Neat!
Waz up with the cover art😂
It’s Alpharius.
"No one could predict that Horus would betray the Emperor" ... lol ... seems to me like the Emperor knew he was going to be betrayed since that was his intention all along in his planned path to god hood.
Instead he's spent 10,000 years as a half dead Icon while his loyal servants feed him human souls. Good job "God-Emperor", good job indeed. Hahaha
*Let the galaxy burn.*
the og thumb was better
let's gooo
What if Cypher is the Lion
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After watching this video- every fabric of my being is screaming the Cypher is, in point of fact, the Lion. Am I completely off my rocker?
ahhhhhhh wait a minute....he's a Sensei.
The lion is the king in yellow
I just can't understand why 1st legion gets so much air time... Think VIII legion and we have a real primarch, the greatest 1st captain, and the only legion that killn d not 1,not 2, but 3primarchs in one day that had to be saved by two types of demo tech... Seriously, 11st legion sucks ass
Night Lords? Seriously? Okay... whatever floats your boat. Crazy sociopath who gets his kicks by torturing and terrorizing, but lacks any real combat or strategic aptitude hardly qualifies as a real primarch. Next you'll say Lorgar was a secular paragon.
Angels have crushed night lords time and time again . Shrug . Conrad Cuxk is crybaby
@@Sol4Soul Angels... Using xeno tech, Half of them are loyal to a heretic, the other half to another heretic, only he has big wavy blonde hair and had to be saved by... xeno tech. Angel are a pack of alien lovers... The Tau are living proof that the Dark Angels boinked a cow.
I have a feeling he’s a custodian
ruclips.net/video/_6V4lEHtz1g/видео.html is that saturnine pattern? its not a bad rendition if they wanted to make a modernised version :)
Honestly a awful name . He has some cool more but Cypher is a bad name for 40k
The Lord Cypher was initially a title held by a secretly chosen Knight of Caliban before the integration of the Lion into the Imperium.
Many traditions of the Order of Knights of Caliban were themselves integrated into the 1st Legion.
It may not be a cool name but in truth it is a forgotten title.
Thank you