James Brand The Barnes Folding Knife - Overview and Review
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Everything James Brand makes should have 1/2 off its price, IMO. It's just hipster boutique pricing...Without the brand recognition of, say, Apple, Nike, Louis Vuitton, etc.
Fake it 'til you make it.
It is a Reate knife and they are good quality. If this were more in the $300-399 range it would be golden, $400-450 would be solid, anything more and it loses me.
@@Ephem13 Oh yeah, it being a Reate and having such nice texturing means I would probably sell some things to get one.
If it were $350 or so.
At $600 they can go fuck themselves.
Without the brand recognition- YET
The reason you would like the rounding makes sense. It's been scientifically proven through studies Apple commissioned when designing their phones. The curvature of the human hand when reacting with smooth/rounded edges identifies it as something familiar and wants to crab it. It's also partly why barbell bars are round even though an angular edged bar would give you more grip.
Lol.. “..wants to crab it.”
For some reason I find this typo hilarious. Partly because I’m picturing that sentient hand from Adam’s Family crab walking towards this knife.
I'm loving it that my knife caused so much drama . Looks like I will definitely be one of the few who own one . Glad you enjoyed it, loved your take . Keep up the honest content.
It’s a beautiful looking knife and if someone has the money to buy it then buy it. It’s something I could not afford even if it was half the price. But if I had the money I would buy this little beauty
@@Paa375 Yep, I like it a lot. I knew it was overpriced when I saw it . But it was just something about the look of it . So I went for it !! Keep an eye out , Im sure someone will be selling one for a nice discount.
Jeffery, did you get one of these? Just a stunning knife.
@@telemarktumalo6978 Yes, love it .
@@jefferydellinger7422 One born every minute.
Silly MC, they aren't trying to sell to the plebians. If they lowered the price then undesirables might buy it and water down the brand 😂
Pretty much. I have no doubt that their response to any criticism of their pricing is simply "Then we did not make it for you"
I have to agree lol.
@@-Only.Facts- I wouldn't compare the James brand to US knife makers. Makers like CRK are selling quality knives at US made prices. James brand is selling a lifestyle at crazy inflated prices.
@@-Only.Facts- if they're not for you then go enjoy what you do like. No reason to be ugly about it.
I've been carrying a BM Anthem purchased used for a couple of years now and still love it. It's over an ounce lighter for the same blade length, cheaper (until discontinued), similar blade steel (20CV) and completely ambidextrous (I'm a lefty) compared to this. Just replaced the clip with a BM deep-carry clip from the Contego and it's the perfect knife for me. I know BM gets knocks for QC but my blade centering and edges are perfect on both of mine. But I remember when the Anthem was released everyone complained about the price. But this knife certainly looks very nice. But no, it's not worth $600 to me.
Regarding the pivot screws being different sizes, if it's one of those situations where you need to hold one screw while turning the screw on the other side then I can see why they would use two different size screws. If you have only 1 torx set then you most likely don't have two of every size. So having two different sized screws would allow you to take it apart with only 1 torx set. On the other hand, if it's the case where you don't need to hold one side while unscrewing the other then idk what the hell they were thinking lol.
Good point
The aesthetics are phenomenal, IMO. I wish I could throw around $600 without thinking about it. I would buy a dozen and give one to everyone who complained about the cost. But alas, it looks like I'm stuck with my lowly Spydercos, Benchmades, and Twosuns.
600 sounds rough, I could get 3 940s or 3 spydiechefs for that o.o
Or one Civivi for each day of the week with change left over.
Show me a reate made integral knife for less, I'm not defending James brand you are correct they charge more for what it's worth. But this knife was made by reate the price is going to be high now add the fact that it's an integral. Show me a integral knife made by any company besides twosuns less then 400 bucks.
The Reate Jack 1 and 2 are both substantially less expensive at base, and they're using the same materials (+CF). They're also more complicated in construction. The pricing on on The Barnes is kind of a joke.
@@JackFrost-hj3cp Lionsteel...?
Really cool knife. But I'd never pay that. I wouldnt pay half tbh...
Holy shmoly, 600 buckaroonies. That's a 350 dollhair knife, get a Chris Reeve instead and save some money.
@thedog556 to save 100 bucks or more if you care about money. Not sure the reasoning for your reply, of course there are plenty of better options than this in that price point besides just crk but crk is simple and high quality like this.
@thedog556 still not sure what you're arguing about of course you can get all those and add hoback, olamic, hinderer, etc to the list. I have most of them and I wouldn't buy this.
@thedog556 okay sorry you feel that way. Many would argue that saying "recommending crk is stupid" is stupid. 🤷♂️ I'd recommend almost anything over this, I've never seen any complaints from crk owners including myself.
@thedog556 you are all over the place with your reasoning and examples. Buy what you want. No one is trying to stop you. But the fact is that Chris Reeve knives are absolutely legendary in terms of quality and design. The framelock was literally invented by Chris Reeve, so you have him to thank for every framelock in existence. Yours is the type of comment I would expect from someone who is very new to all this. I'm not trying to insult you at all, but I'm going to explain a few things, and give you some elements to consider:
First off, the "base price" of a CRK is generally - SMALL $375 , LARGE $450. It only goes beyond that if you're buying something dressy. CRKs are manufactured in the US. This a major factor for many people, and it plays a huge role in pricing. They're largely considered to be an incredible value for a TRULY USA manufactured knife.
Medfords are traditionally compared in the opposite fashion here. I.E. - "Why would you buy a Medford when you can buy a Chris Reeve?" is a MUCH more common comment. Medfords are fine, but generally not considered to be on the same level as a CRK when you're talking about a precision cutting tool. (CRKs are definitely designed better when it comes down to actually carrying and using it). Medfords also generally cost more for relatively similar materials. And in my opinion, they're not "up to par" in 2021.
Shirogorovs are definitely not normally priced similarly to CRKs. That's a poor example. They're in a totally different caliber as well, which is appropriate considering their production models average $800-$900.
Chaves? You mean the Ultramar and Liberation? Those are made by Reate in China. That's why they cost less. I love my 229 Ultramar, but it doesn't hold a candle to the cutting performance of Chris Reeve knives. It's also not easy to carry at all by contrast.
Comparing to WE makes no sense at all. Again, CRKS are manufactured in the US. WE is China. The Slysz Bowie is the only relatively good example and it's sold out currently. Keep in mind though that the recent revival of the Slysz Bowie priced at $400 was one of the biggest knife world controversies of 2021. So while it's your best example, it's still not a great one. Most would still choose a CRK for the money, and that's a fact you can't argue around given the evidence of the Slysz Bowie backlash.
So why buy a Chris Reeve? No one is asking that question because it's obvious. People already buy them. They know what their buying. CRK has a potent legacy and the knives will continue to be an integral part of knife community culture.
Your value system is weird man. No judgement, but don't be surprised when your opinions are met with consitent confusion and criticism. Not very many people are going to agree with you.
Again, buy what makes you happy, but don't tell anyone else they're "stupid" for making certain purchase decisions.
I worked at an online knife retailer.
In the company, james brand was very popular among branding, marketing, creatives and the like - younger, (well payed) trendy people who definitely didn't carry a knife before coming to work there, but still had to know about blade steel and whatever. There was a definite overlap between those with macbooks and james brands...
hey at least they're trying
The first thought I had when I saw this for sale while browsing a while back was, "$600? My god, you can get a Shiro for that!" So yes, I absolutely agree. Man, it's really really nice & well made...for $400-$450.
they are taking advantage a certain market that doesn't know any better
Absolutely. The fakers who take pictures of knife. Never use or carry.
@@pauldelasco exactly, the Instagram edc crowd. One of my best friends takes pics of prybars and hankies all day. Weird stuff, 90% of them never use any of it. They're in it for the likes
I'm not sure I understand the reaction about the price when nobody seems to have an issue with the price of the last Demko?
Demkos knives are time proven, his take on locks is genius, he has a very well known name in the knife world, and, has many designs people love. His are usually custom or close to it. This is a new kid on the block with a pretty normal integral frame lock.
Maybe if it was a CRK or a brand that has actually proved themselves through time.. maybe.
But then again some people like this knife, and, spend the $600 for it. So in their mind it's worth it. But I can see why a lot of people are a little twisted by the price point.
Demko is made in America, and this community just can't seem to cope with the fact that nothing American made in the knife market can compete in terms of quality with a Reate like this. Yes even at $600 you still need to spend more for something from Koenig to have a chance.
What do they want it’s an integral look at a rassenti
@@BloodRaven1011 what? Reate is amazing, of course... But to say that nothing in America can compete with reate? 😂
There are ZTs that are cheaper and just as nice... Do they have the selection that reate does? No. But the small selection they have now a days are some of the best knives for the money. They are also cheaper. I'm only bringing in one US production company. I don't feel like making a list. It's just uninformed to say that nothing in America can compete with reate. 😂.
Also a part of making a production knife is labor... Paying the employees. Do you think a Chinese company pays their employees anything close to the American brands? Uh... No.
When you buy an American knife and paying more for it. Its because people are actually getting paid for their work. Shit America could bring the cost down on our products a whole shit ton if we were to use slave labor.
This video reaffirms exactly what I was thinking when I first saw the knife listed. Thanks MC for calling it how you see it!
Man, this is such a nice looking knife. All else aside, I love the look of the thing
I wonder if the T6 vs. T8 thing is a nod to people who only have one torx bit set. If you're using your T8 to unscrew it, but need another T8 on the other side to keep it from spinning, you need another bit or set. But if you can use your T6, even just holding it in your fingers, you don't have to buy anything else. It's otherwise a puzzler as you say, but this is the only reason I can think of that they might have done that.
the only way I can get the t6 and t8 combination to make sense is that most torx kits come with only 1 of each, and if the pivot isn't locked in place, you'll need to brace one screw and turn the other. So having 2 different sizes means each torx set will have enough bits to open the pivot up. But yeah +1 for T10...or be like Medford and do T30 ahahahaha
Exactly. I think T6 on the show side is to keep the James Brand look instead of adding industriousness.
600 bucks… it’s a nice knife but 600? Hell nah
So I have to ask. You say in EVERY integral video that you love them "partly" because they're just so easy to take apart and such. Have you ever taken one or 2 apart? Because I've had probably around 20 or more integrals and I've taken them all apart more than once. Integrals are absolutely positively more difficult to take apart and put back together. And yes, the extra cut out around the pivot is for the bearings and such. It'd be impossible to get that stuff in without the cut out. I just had to ask. I have yet to take apart 1 integral that's easy to put back together. They're ALWAYS difficult, and that's because it has to be perfect or it won't work. Thanks for the content.
God bless
Just picked up the DLC version on secondary for $350 in good condition then junked on your content on it. Can’t wait to get it in hand.
So, with an integral, is blade centering strictly up to the precision of the machining since you can't shear the two sides of the frame?
I would assume so, ya
Their STP results must have defined their target market in a way that suggested the MSRP of this knife would be viewed as an aesthetic.
Setting that guess aside, the knife looks nice and I like Reate about as much as you do, MC. $600 is gross and I like $350-$400(max) on this one a lot more.
$600 is a chunk of change but after seeing how their other stuff is priced I’m actually surprised it’s not more.
Cut the price tag in half and you might have something worth getting.
Price is subjective. It checks all the boxes for me. And it is one hell of a beauty. The fact that i bought one says its worth it to me. Had a chance to get a user Barnes for $475 but it had a lot of blade scratches and blemishes. 🤷🏽♂️🙃
I find the price of this insane compared to just about anything except the large sebenza (which I think one could argue this is a similar knife but as an integral with better materials), which then makes me question if that knife is just overpriced too. I finally got to handle one at blade show, but walked right back to the hinderer booth and got my first xm-18 instead with $100 leftover for another knife!
I don't know... $500 for a non-integral Hinderer XM-18 with a G-10 handle vs $600 (now $650) for this knife seems about right.
Agree on the price, ridiculous, especially sense you can get a Quiet Carry Waypoint or large IQ at half the price, and they are incredibly made using quality materials and inside milling.
I'm glad hear your opinion of their pricing. It certainly agrees with mine. I will never own anything from james brand unless you or someone else seems me one.
I like the Clovis point on the coin. It looks identical to an authentic 12,000-15,000 year old one I found in Tennessee years ago
FYI, that T6 on the show side is probably just to align the pivot during reassembly, as it prob has a “notch” holding it in place like other makers use (WE, Civivi), I bet it doesn’t spin if you turn it.
Their logo is a futuristic geometric arrowhead design! Thanks for the cool vid goat knife guy!
Sooo... I would never buy this knife for $600 dollars. But. For that price... I'd buy this before I'd get an XM-18, or even an inlayed Sebenza.
No knife is "value" for money at this price, but I'd argue this is actually better than most.
Edit: I should specify, better for me. It better fits what I desire in a knife than several other $600 options.
I'd love to see the sales numbers on this... They can't be great
I’ll take the new 535-4 bk bugout twice plus a native 5 instead for that price.
Everyone is up in arms over the price yet no one has mentioned that the CKF Satori 2.0 sold for $640 with no complaints.
I complained about the Satori 2.0. There were quite a few people who agreed I the comments section of that video as well.
@@metal_complex Fair enough. I won't disagree that $450-500 would be a fairer price on the Barnes. I'm fortunate enough to be eligible for the GovX discount so I got mine for $480 and I have no regrets. I also own Shirogorovs, Koenigs, Skiffs, Holts; so while dropping nearly $500 on a knife isn't insignificant for me, I'm kind of accustomed to the sticker shock.
I'll just add that if you plan on disassembling the knife, do not try to remove the lockside pivot screw (yeah, the T8 one). Remove the dinky little T6 pivot screw and then the entire pivot collar/lockbar overtravel, T8 screw, and pivot barrel come out on the lockside as one assembly. Just some friendly advice.
P.S. I may not entirely agree with all your points but I can't deny that you always put out great content!
Pricey, and too big for the UK, but it is lovely. Does the handle texturing look like the James brand logo? Nice review.
There isn't a single James Brand knife that is worth its money. I've never heard any complaints about their quality, and their designs are usually good, but they're always at least 30% over priced.
The quality??? James brand the Carter?? That thing is made of cafeteria tray plastic 😂
@@desertsmeagol7073 I thought that was the micarta, axis lock one.
This does fall into some serious grey area, doesn’t it? I want to put this into some kind of weird black hole analogy. Very interesting but not so interesting that I want to enter myself. When these decisions were made it would have been funny to have my fellow knife enthusiasts with a hand hovering on the buzzer 🖲 👋 ❌❌❌. Like you said, catering to both a knife enthusiast and a certain type of consumer invites criticism. I could see this being the perfect edc tool for someone though. For the purest maybe, maybe not…to each their own. This is exactly why you subscribe to a channel like this. This is certainly an interesting knife to discuss due to its polarizing price tag. Hopefully this sort of content helps the consumer/collector with an informed decision rather than a blind one when dropping serious cashola. Definitely a ton of options in that price range to consider.
I really like this knife. I would like to own one but between $649 and 1,250, minimal design, M390, the huge pocket clip, integral design (which makes it very hard to disassemble and MADE IN CHINA? I purchase knives that are made in China but they are usually much less expensive. Heck, that is why they are made there, to offer them at a lower price.
Is it me or does that stop pin seem a little small for the knife size?
Na. It's fine
I really like it, never heard of the company but I would be tempted to get it
So in the long run, if you like the knife and are willing to pay an extra $200 more than it’s probably worth you should buy it. $200 is not that much money in the scheme of things. Unless of course you’re buying a bunch of other stuff.
Definitely a beautiful knife but 600 dollars is not just a little bit but almost double it's value .I don't think it even close to crk or koenig. Not only do they not have the brand recognition or proven time tested quality or customer service to try and put them selves in that ball park
I like CRK, but in what world can you compare the machining complexity and quality of this Reate or a Koenig to CRK? CRK can't even come close to those two in terms of quality.
@@BloodRaven1011 I'm assuming by your comment that you are speaking of crkt Columbia River knife and tool and not the aforementioned crk Chris Reeves knives the sebenza which happens to be the Pinnacle of precision machining not to mention the Advent of the integral lock.and quite possibly the standard in pocket knives across the world
@@BloodRaven1011 so yes crk blows James Brand and Reate out of the water in every aspect of precision machining ingenuity and simple quality
@@baloneylorddonkeyhammer2273 The pinnacle of precision machining? Chris Reeves Knives? You couldn’t be further from the truth. You are delusional. Chris Reeves does good work but there is nothing difficult about their designs to even warrant precision machining. Also show me a Reate with lock rock like the Sebenza 31 has. You’re so unbelievably wrong. Go handle an Koenig, Shirogorov, or Reate so you know what machining is.
@@BloodRaven1011 that's why it's the bench mark that every knife company in the world tries to duplicate . Either you never handled one or you must be new to the knife world but Chris Reeves sebenza is the knife that all other are compared when it comes to production knives and is widely consider the grail and although it may not be the fancy looking the precision is second to none you should probably do some research or go back to mc 50k give away videos and see what the grand prize was and why .
If the pivot is free spinning i can see why they went with a t8 on one side and t6 on the other. Most people dont have two sets of torx bits so they can have two t8's to disassemble the knife. Only knife nerds like us have that available
The two sizes on the pivot screws is so folks that only have one set of bits can still take the knife apart.
They absolutely still should have done T8 on both sides of the pivot.
@@metal_complex Or T10!
Well their sold out. I’d pay $500 for it. I love the sound it makes both opening and closing. I’m a sucker for a nice textured Ti handle and I prefer thumb studs over flippers but I can’t justify it for $600+. I can afford it and it wouldn’t phase me but I have to be able to justify it and going off this video and their website I just can’t. Maybe if I felt it in hand and it is as nice as it looks MAYBE on a whim but $600 I don’t see it. It sure is beautiful though. IF it was a USA made knife by a name like Hinderer or reeves I’d drop $600 on it. But I’ll pay that made in America tax happily. Gorgeous knife though. The clip/lanyard area looks like an Apple product design. It’s stunning.
James Brand: 8.5/10 for design
Reate: 9.5/10 for manufacturing
James Brand: 3/10 for marketing
James Brand; the Apple of the knife industry.
This knife is built exceptionally well, I don’t have a problem paying $650 for it. Hell I have knives that cost in excess of a thousand dollars that aren’t built this well.
How is that texturing on the handle accomplished? Is it pressed into the handle? Maybe tiny little end mills in a router?
Knurling tool used for that pattern.
CNC
@@metal_complex Yeah, definitely.
@@Countryboy071 cool tool
@@dfailsthemost yes. When I worked in engineering (machine tool maintenance), used to see many patterned tool attachments. Some of these tools are laser etched, according to customer requirements. Yes they are used on cnc machines but can be fixed to a tailstock on a centre lathe. They generally have a short life, obviously depending on the metal used.
Pure titanium is quite soft, there are many alloys made depending on its use.
Worked for a company called NCMT (numerically controlled machine tools), some of these complex machines cost millions.
Regular maintenance is needed and repairs run into thousands
The companies who buy these need to get their money back so hence high costs.
Best knife on the market even in 2023
And here I am hesitating to buy a thrid Reate produced Liong Mah desings folder! 600 shmeckles is really high for a (let's be honest here) "noname brand" lol.
enjoyed you channel and your style of videos and honesty, keep up the good work....this knife is nice but their pricing is way off IMO, annother hundred or so and i can get a Grimsmo Rask.
The size of the torque driver doesn't denote the size of the bolt, or thread.
excellent video, incredibly fair review. I learned. Thx!
Did they mixed the pivot screws for people who don’t have two of the same bits?!? If so that’s a nice touch for most people. 🤘🏻🔪
Hey, knife guys! Explain what makes a $1000 knife worth that amount. What justifies paying a thousand plus for a " pocket knife"?
it’s all in the details. the guys at the highest levels make and harden even their own screws to achieve the level of precision and action they’re looking for
Also just to throw another affordable integral out there…the A. Purvis Xerx that you just reviewed at $325
But what is out there that looks really good. I don’t want a knife that has a sniff of aggression in it. I love the KOSS designs. Can’t really find knifes like that.
Somebody must like them at the time your video that model is sold out.
I would love to own one of these.... just my personal taste.
I see them here and there on knife center and blade hq.
They usually only get 1.
Just don't have $600 for a knife right now.
I would immediately lose the laynard
For that price they should all be the TASER enhanced P. Barnes version.
Aesthetically this knife is absolutely beautiful to me, but the price is absolutely insane, if a different brand name was on the side, I think people would be more okay with the price
The pocket knife community are the most double standard pick and choose mfs in existence. X is bad but only if Y company does it REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
@@peen2804 you really thought commenting on a 2 year old comment on an unavailable knife was going to give you some street cred
While I agree this is overpriced for a Reate made knife, it's hard to compare it to the JACK. That knife is fucking hideous. This one is pretty sexy, honestly. It's telling that the JACK is available pretty much everywhere right now and this knife, despite its price, is completely sold out. I'm actually kind of impressed with this. If it were made in the US I'd buy it without question.
I'd rather have the Anthem instead
That's funny. I've owned both and never thought to compare the two, for whatever reason.
Yeah, the anthem is definitely the better of the two.
Hilarious review. Dead on. Smokin crack at 600. CRK and hinderer and save 150
The pena mula seems very similar at $275
Now that something u might buy
At first glance I thought it was a Reate Torrent. I think I’d prefer one of those and also pocket a couple HUNDRED DOLLARS…
with there first time customer code you get 15 percent off.......i might have bought one.
wish i could find a good Kunwu review
I didn't know Jack Black had his own RUclips channel....
Yeah, if I wanna spend $600 on Reaté product, I'll grab 2 Chaves Ultramars instead.
Man, I LOVE the design architecture of this knife! And the styling is impeccable. Material choice and machining is top shelf as well.
Literally EVERYTHING about this knife appeals to me ......except the price.
Others have done production integrals. LionSteel, Syderco, Benchmade. Italian and US makers. Yet none have approached the $600 price of this communist Chinese company.
Sorry but I'll pass.
Gotta make their margins
Yeah..the douche bag culture
650 for hecho en China… hard pass. James brand not that American.
How do you spell the OEM (manufacturer) of this knife?
Reate
@@CanItAlready thank you!
A helpful discussion might be to ask why a fine textured titanium non-integral Holt Haptic or Specter in M390, for example, is OK at $900 or more but this fine textured titanium integral in M390 isn't OK at $600. Or the Shirogorovs you mentioned at the same price. Or how about a crazy-priced Norseman? If the knife is otherwise excellent, and shortcomings vs. these others can't be identified (can they? I don't know), then it seems like it's more an issue of brand impression, which is an abstraction. This brand already caught some flak for selling some other steels and designs at prices that seemed out of whack with the competition, and I wonder if that bad press is bleeding over to this one. Because this one seems to be up there in very premium territory, yet others up there get a pass at this price or much higher, but this one doesn't. I don't know the answer and don't have a dog in this fight, but it's something to think about.
I agree with you. Plenty of overpriced knives out there, if you're gonna pick on this one, there's a long list of others you'd have to complain about as well. I say let the market decide, I sure won't be paying that for one, but I don't see what the controversy is. If that's too much money for you, then don't buy it
You make a very good and strong point I own this knife, bought it right when the pandemic hit, and it still works great. The knife community is like everything else, people tend to follow the hype and like to shun things that are in the unknown just because it's a name or brand people have not thrown around as a household name.
No... The big difference here is that the knife in question is made in China. That's essentially the end of the discussion here. There's just no justification when labor is so cheap there and we have countless identical examples for substantially less to prove it. I think this is why I never responded a year ago when the original comment was left
@@metal_complex there are tons of knives in that price bracket that are made in China, so
what does that really mean ?
@@capone_rd_809 I mean by comparison. The examples left in the first comment weren't fair comparisons. They aren't made in China. The knife in the video is. Im putting this knife up against similar models made in China and this is laughably overpriced. That's basically it.
I can get one from C.R. and it will be heirloom quality and just as good for 200 less..
hot take: different pivot screw torx sizes are nice because you have t6 and t8 driver and dont need a second t8 driver.
But T6 is to small for a pivot imho.
Great point!
I think the T6 was chosen to maintain the aesthetics of the pivot.
First thing I thought about to. I actually prefer it that way if it’s not self capturing.
Hot take: If you dropped $600 on a knife I bet you have more than one T8 wiha bit
@@kevinw9077 Well then you aren't being "minimalist" are ya? ;)
IMO there are more intriguing knives that offer everything this knife offers with easier to swallow pricing.
Dozens of them
Care to name them? I’m looking for a beautiful knife like this to pair up with some of my custom/semi custom 1911s.
@@TexasBulldog74 I suggest the Lionsteel SR22. Half the price.
@@TexasBulldog74 Monterey Bay Knives EZC 2.0 or XLC. Hard to catch in stock but MBK has very good pricing for the quality of knives.
@@TexasBulldog74 I'll also add that Liong Mah has a lot of two piece handled knives coming from the same factory.
I bought one, and I own many integrals and really nice knives...and I agree the asking price is high, but boy do I freaking love this knife. It really is a awesome knife, barring the price
I'm certainly not an expert, but some of the design features on this knife look deceptively complex to manufacture. Not sure $600 is justified, but I think the machining must be nuts.
@@dfailsthemost well they did the lockbar cutout on the wrong side, so I don't really expect them to be doing anything brilliant.
@@JustIn-op6oy it's the same as a Sabenza. I guess Chris Reeve doesn't know what he's doing in your world? 😂
Agree I own the all black and the stainless version. I love both but carry the stainless more. This is by far my favorite knife and doubt I’ll ever meet someone personally that has the same knife.
@@aaronmichaelwilkie9593It’s really not. Crk is made in USA. James brand uses Reate to oem his knives. Reate is a great oem but the price is typically $300-450 for there OEMed knives of this caliber. Comparing and amazing USA made knife company to a guy who has Reate a Chinese company make his designs is not the same. 😂
I agree 100 percent. I like it and might try it at around 300. But 600, I'll never get it. Typical James Brand prices. Honestly I think they're not doing themselves any favors building their brand w this reputation.
Yea, same. I'd pick it up for $300, maybe $400 but its pushing it. Never for $600. Way, way too high IMO. It's sad because I do really like it but too pricey.
Lol stupid. PJ Sebenza 31 for $150 cheaper all day over this.
The Giantmouse GM6 integral, made by Reate, and a limited edition was only $365
LOL, this knife is so overpriced. The benchmade anthem was $400 and made in America.
@thedog556 how much it costs to make, hence James Brand is profiting of you way way more than Benchmade was, and its always good to support domestic manufacturing.
I'm a real world Machinist and knife modder..this is expensive but worth every penny. The machines and tooling required to do this along with fit and finish are above par. I do feel that 325 would be better but I see customs with less work going for alot more. My 2cents....👊🙏🏻🔪🇺🇸👍💯
Exactly
Yeah price is up there. The “Diamond Cat symbol”.... maybe it’s an Arrow head. The coin has traditional arrow head on one side and looks like a digital version of it on the other.
That makes sense 😅
I thought it was a rocket ship cuz their prices are taking off. 🚀
Looks like a poly owl design to me. I really like it
I just subscribed like this week, why is it every time I watch your videos I want to go out and buy a knife? 😂
Overpriced? Yes. However this knife is fuccking awesome. The hand feel is insane, the overall quality is grail status and without a doubt for me at least, its the design. Seriously nothing else comes close to it, for me its perfection. Everyone needs to settle down and stop pretending we don't over pay for sharp pieces of metal again and again.
Eehhhhhhhh, im not so sure. The thing falls apart. Its junk
@@townes_ falls apart?
@@townes_falls apart?
@@casualt86 yea it falls apart in your hands
@@TheMillieSmalls comes apart while holding it. No good
i believe the logo is a clovis point, like on the coin
That’s what it looks like to me. And I’d rather have 1 authentic Clovis point than 100 of these pretentious knives.
I agree - way overpriced for what you're getting. I was stunned when I saw the price. Even people that can easily afford this knife won't buy it - there are just too many options that are much better in this price range.
The first batch sold out and they just released the second batch. People are buying this knife. In fact, I bought one.
Except people are buying them tho lol.
Almost everytime I see a pretend market analyst RUclips comment WITHOUT FAIL they are ALWAYS talking about a product that’s selling out 😂
Like a few days ago I saw some comments about a peak design strap collab and how no one will buy it hurr durr when they sold out before the commenter even posted 😂
Like dude you don’t know shit just shut up 😂
If the Spyderco Slysz Bowie is worth $400, then, given the milling, fancy clip, integral handle, hand rubbed blade, manufacturer clout, and of course the coin, this would be worth the $600 price tag. I think it's just to artificially inflate the prestige of the James Brand brand.
FYI, I believe they offer a 10% off coupon code on their site, and stock Arius’ start at about $600 these days. Maybe be expensive but WAY more suited to EDC than an XM18 or AD20. Depends what you’re after
If Spyderco or Benchmade (and others) made this knife it would sell out in 10 seconds
If spyderco or Benchmade made this it would be $100 less and be supported by a great warranty.
I finally ordered one of these. theres a $60 discount code, and Oregon doesn't collect tax. ive been hesitant because I really try to buy America made. and no... not because of the "cheap Chinese crap" stereo type, and im not going to get political here, but because I prefer to support American jobs. I have one other reate, designed by varga. I have to say Im not impressed with the action on it, its too spongy for my taste. which is another reason I was hesitant. this is a thumb opener, and everything ive heard, and read, review wise, its damned good. it seems price, and thumb stud, rather than "spydie, hole", are the main criticisms. I love thumb studs, and yeah, the price hurts, but its not the fist time ive done this to myself.
Definitely a great looking knife but not worth $600! James Brand knives are made for hipsters.
If you own a Yeti, you'll buy this knife.
$600?!? I’d just buy a Chavez.