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Alpha Legion is that supervillain who poisons the water supply but this just reveals how bad the infrastructure was so it gets repaired to save lives.
I appretiate this reference
You fixed my shoulder
I know it's a reference to something! But what!
Prozd skit about a supervillain who is accidentally helpful
They also showed us how weak our security was and the holes they used to infiltrate our city were supposed to be fixed with funding that they clergy was embezzling so we got that taken care of to.
A suggestion. Listen to the Doors song 'The Changeling' and substitute the word 'changeling' with 'Alpharius'. It fits and should be their theme song. *'I live uptown, I live down town, I live ALL AROUND!'* Perhaps Jim Morrison was originally an Alpha legionaire who got caught in the Warp and sent back Earth in the mid 20th century. *'This is the end, my only friend the end!'* Very WH 40 K appropriate. See also *'the Soft Parade'* and *'The Spy'.* All very Grim Dark Inquisitorial stuff!
18:16 as long as some tables are not named Istvan 3/5 it should be fine
The "What to read if your brand new to 40k" topic gets crazy when you consider that maybe someone just wants orky fings. Give me that reading list please. I'm not new but I want to read orky tales. :P
I agree that the eisenhorn series is not a great place to start for a complete newbie. I was recommended that series as my first 40k book. I struggled a lot trying to understand everything. I had to read it again later to really appreciate it. I agree Guants Ghosts is a nice start. The first 5 books of the Horus heresy would be awesome too!
All Hail The Sand Lion of Terra And the union of him and the Battle Sister! For the imperium! Nah but for real. Your 9000iq for lil sneaking weding ideas are next level. You could even hide the logos/emblems of some of the legions or even the heraldry of the titans as often they are old english knight style banners etc, would look cool just on thr wedding initations 😂 best of luck my guy to you and your love! Big congrats again! 🫡
Yay Dark Elves are suffering 😃👌🏽
I am Alpharius
I stand for The Emperor. I am loyal to Him, and I...*checks calender*...cannot break that bond.
What's my goal? Throws dice: "Betray" "Self"
Am I loyal? *shakes magic 8-ball* Yes.
Dorn never realised that the bricks that he used to reinforce the Golden Palace were actually disguised Alpha Legionnaires.
"I was still, from the first moment the Imperial Fist slotted me in to the defenses of the north-eastern quadrant, to the moment the activation code brought me from my slumber. Having laid fourty-four years as one of many stones, I was now ready to break my constraints and follow my imperative."
*brick next to him giggles*
"Oh hey brother."
I like the idea of loyalist Alpha legion
Always dig your vids. Discussion of issues that cross our minds as we read ourselves.
Always has been
Always has been
As a long time AL player I’m all for it.
Always have been.
Id love the Alpha Legion play all three... Loyalist, Renegade and Traitor.
Loyalist by majority, Renegade to strengthen the imperium outposts and Traitor to know what Chaos warbands are up too.
Same argument - mostly loyalist, but many of them ended up like the Space Wolves (vs the inquisition) or the Soul Drinkers and are more ‘renegade’ - and then there are the groups that fell to chaos over the 10k years that almost every chapter has had exist at some stage - that way the Primarch could remain ‘loyal’ to the emperor but still fight the inquisition/Church/etc.
It could also be that parts of the legion are loyal, parts renegade and parts traitor, but since they are so secretive they don't tell each other
@@sylph4252
I feel there would eventually have to be a handler for some of the Traitor Marines.. meaning there is definitely someone/something that is in contact with them, either it be through psychic spaghetti or a random cultist just saying a code phrase walking by for the legionnaire to "report in".
Conrad Curze even told them that they were some of the most horrible liars in the galaxy, something along the lines of "they hide their biggest sins behind lies." Can't remember exactly
They've done far more damage though haven't they? Ruining corvis raptors alone..
All three are true. Percentages are unknown. In Harrowmaster, we see traitor alpha legion, the redacted that push to fortify the imperium better. The loyalists are hard to find because it’s Alpha Legion.
The place to start? Rogue Trader.
What books are about the Alpha Legion? All of them.
I am Alpharius and I approves of these statements... this is a lie. 😶🌫️
Legion
Alpharius-Head of the Hydra
Shroud of Night
Renegades: Harrowmaster
No AI will ever beat these livestreams
This was ai the whole time. Sandman never actually existed.
But it will replace WH ^^
He prefers the term Silica Animus
Damn right!
So one thing I always liked about the Cabal and the Alpha Legion story line is the idea that Alpharius Omegon saw through everything and got the bigger picture and is playing the long game. That they had to prepare for the ascension of The Emperor or to stop him from becoming the Dark King.
That's why they were the only legion not to enter the Eye of Terror. They would play the role of chaos space marines but couldn't risk actually turning to the dark.
except that the cabal is canonically proven wrong by eldrad and that alpharius didnt see anything at all, from the beginning to the end?
they fell for every stupid manipulation to achieve exactly nothing in "the long game".
but i have to admit i'm just a huge alpha legion hater. i cannot for the life of me fathom how somebody enjoys their lore.
@@leonhardableOne way is to possess more than one brain cell to rub together.... always a good place to start 🤷🏽♂
@@glitchbyt3gaming27 hey, no need to imsult a fellow fan because he doest like your favorite fictional guy. He didnt like the alpha legion didmt insult you.
@@leonhardable Games Workshop lore is fairly malleable. And Eldrad has gone from being brilliant to being utterly wrong with the stroke of a pen a number of times.
I imagine several did turn to chaos just by playing spy.
Repeating a lie often enough can make you believe.
Roboute guilliman and yvraine holding hands on top of the cake. Or Commissar Yarrick and Ghazghkull Thraka: ultimate power couple
Lion El Johnson: how long was I asleep? Where's robutte?
The watchers: random noises
Lion: HE DID WHAT WITH A WHO!?!
I think it will be interesting to see Alpharius revealed to be working along side The King in Yellow (Constantin Valdor)
Well one of them is working for Eisenhorn.
for your wedding, get the priest to wear chaplain terminator armor.
I was able to get my wife to choose the name Celestine for our daughter. took her 5 years to slowly piece that. together. (she was beyond pissed) she got over it, and my daughter loves her name way. more when I revealed the sisters of battle army I am building for her to play with someday.
I’m excited for when my kid is old enough to build, paint and play 40K with me
Ferrus Manus will receive the Emperor’s dreadnought 💀
Ah bro let her have a Warhammer free wedding and just have a stag do worthy of the Emperor!
"She does read the comments"
Hi Sandlady of Terra!
Plp
The Alpha Legion symbol has three heads because there's actually a third brother. If you look at the Alpha Legion splash page in HH3:Extermination (somewhere around page 95?) it shows 3 skulls, each with a lowercase greek letter on its forewead: Alpha (Alpharius), Omega (Omegon) and Sigma (Sigmar?)
Malcador and Big E mentored Alpharius, no way he thought he could sway Rogal Dorn 😂
Definitely Omegon died on Pluto.
If the tables are named after planets, be worried if you're sat on Isstvan 5...
Or Kreig, or cadia, or baal.
All your wedding tables should be named "Alpharius" i'm sure that would have an effect...
One of the coolest alliance armies I've seen was Alpha legion camouflaged and a bunch of cadian looking imperial guard with hydras on everything. It looked like the blood angels were helping the hydra Regiment of Cadian guard. The camouflage paint job was really cool.
My current paint project is loyalist Alpha Legion disguised as Raptors. They look the part, though there are small clues in the models such as XX and 20 having some prominence as well as any helmetless marines having the same features.
For the wedding, you probably should have something like an oath of moment 🤣 Cheers for the fantastic content, man 👌
Alpharius hacked this channel.
Alpharius also hacked this comment.
They are my favorite legion.
I like their covert operations and their uncertainty of whether or not they are loyalists or traitors.
In the og Art omnibus for the Horus heresy there is a single image of daemon primarch Alpharius
More info please 🙏
@@shaneporter4958 in Part 2 of the og art books in the aftermath section pg406 there is a single image of a daemonic figure and the caption of the image is Alpharius - John Blanche and even in the index for the artwork, he seems to be almost draconic daemon wings snake like tendrils either from his back or wings, and his spear has turned into a almost khoplesh style blade like Magnus' with a scythe as a pommel similar to mortarion
I know it sounds bonkers I thought I was crazy being the only one who seems to know about it
@@YourHighnessIVcould it not just be a random alpha legion guy?
@@criticalcommenter it could be but both the passage before and after are covering what happened to the Primarchs in a vague sense " all of them faded into history" and the index section for the Primarchs that's the only page for Alpharius so while it could be some alpha legion marine the book is calling it Alpharius
While I was listening to your explanation of events, I started wondering if an Alpha Legion codex eventually existed, how awesome it would be if it had both Space Marine AND Chaos Space Marine tabletop choices.
My money is that Ingo Pech is the space marine that is following around Inquisitor Eisenhorn. Grails seem like the peak way of controlling chaos
The idea of the oldest space marine in the imperium being the first captain of the alpha Legion is a little absurd no?
@@Vihara2 I mean why not. He's alive until we see a body and Dan Abnett is writing both stories. Being stuck under the palace for thousands of years is a good way to keep him out of the time line until they use his character again
@@ryanlindstrom3564 no, its just an absurd premise, unless a custodes freed then imprisoned him and he eventually escaped from the inquisition or something, just no.
I think John's loop is actually the emperors from childhood and John is ensuring the proper path which is how the emperor checks his foresight of infinite paths
Cypher is Corswain, believe me, I was on a call with him yesterday, we were playing dead by daylight. He played the knight and kept yelling " for the lion". He told me he was trolling everyone being cypher
3 head of the hydra is Alpharius, Omegon and the legion itself. It is litteraly said in book "Legion". Im really sick of this stupid theory of third twin. It has no merrits.
It even sounds stupid. I hope they don't try and do it
The worst part of the alpha legion doing what they did they essentially ensured the very future they were trying to avoid.
If they had fully supported the emperor from the start the traitor forces would have faltered Alot more and wouldn't have been able to lay siege to terra as they did.
Thats still literally no guarantee that Horus wouldnt have still put the Emperor onto the Golden Throne tho?
@@glitchbyt3gaming27I remember a stream (forget which one maybe I'll come back once I find it) where sandman makes the point that nothing could've changed it. Guilliman was literally hours away, and no matter what he did guilliman wouldn't have been able to help the emperor because his battle with horus and the result of which was preordained. Not that everything is pre-destined, just that certain events would require systematic changes to avoid
The Kabal were wrong in their predictions.
Even if they supported the Emperor they would have been forced to act in the same way because alpha legion basically bought time not just for the emperor by manipulating Horus and doing alpha legion espionage to the traitors. They did it to not to just buy time for the emperor but to lay the groundwork for the future anti-chaos preparations and they’re decision that the didn’t know for sure what to decide just yet
So if we assume that Alpharius and Omegon switch places when Horus "finds" him and they never switch back wouldn't that mean Dorn killed Omegon and Alpharius sensed it? I just can't see GW even with some of its wretchedly bad writing at times not setting this up better. Alpharius is a genius with schemes within schemes. He's going to get killed trying to talk the most loyal son that is predictable into changing sides? I guess it could be more wretchedly bad writing... but I think there's a long game story-line coming in a future book especially with Primarchs showing up.
I'm of the opinion that Omegon was indeed the one killed on Pluto not Alpharius. Dorn supposedly was able to tell who Alpharius was apart from the marines, but since Omegon is 100% identica, it'ss possible Dorn never knew the twin existed and just assumed that it was Alpharius. Could be an interesting way to bring back Alpharius and not mess up the lore too much
@@loganmeyer9200same to both of you. Plus it was stated that og-Alpharius actually knew and understood dorn as a person, and the way Pluto Alpharius(real omegon) approached dorn was just to stupid or lacking to me to be alpharius
Remember the book starts with "I am alpharius, this is a lie"
Literally ALL the lore on the Alpha legion is unreliable
@@doombybbrVery true. Which is why Alpharius IS really Cypher! (insert evil laugh)
@@doombybbr i felt like the way he states “I am Alpharius, this is a lie” always felt more so that he adopted the role of Omegon, and him saying that line is instead in reference to the lie of his persona due to losing his other half on pluto
Try this: Abbadon makes a tactical rush for Terra to beat the loyalists/Emperor. Then Alpharius/Omegon activate the legionairies under the palace to help STOP CHAOS as the rest of loyal Alpha Legionairies move in as well!~!
Live streams are awesome. No change! Also Ciaphas Cain I think are the best intro. Inquisition series a bit convoluted. Crime series is quite good but doesn't really introduce big lore.
For all we know this entire video was created by Alpharius to feed us more false info about Alpharius to help the imperium!
It's certainly feeding false info. Only a few minutes in and already quite a few mistakes
@@criticalcommenterfrom all the new releases to the story and lore, I will always trust the Alpha legion is playing several games at once. Even if they aren’t the idea they are is powerful in this universe.
Don't forget they're Bad guys from Dawn Of War 1 and they use Daemons not all are that loyal. That being said Alpha Legion are my favorite "traitor" Legion. They're great because you can run primaris and other SM models without much lore issue because you can say your opponent caught them mid-disguising
Not very alpha legion to get caught
Unless they wanted to get caught....
0:56 An hour long sandman video dropped in the middle of my shift? Say it isnt so😂
Not me watching an hour long sandman video during a work meeting...
I always listen at work 😂 it’s essential
I’m not into the game or anything else but I love the lore and the way you talk through it and your knowledge is really engaging. Keep up the good work
Welcome aboard! Here's my beginners video if youre interested: ruclips.net/video/8jhGnWxFdfE/видео.htmlsi=n1Y6PJmOFfEcrlRE
@@SandmanofTerra thank you
Alpha Legion Battle Barge:
“What’s for dinner?”
“Ssshhh! Never ask that! The chef starts crying.”
“Why does he start crying?”
“Because he gets all the ingredients he needs and spends the next several hours crying because the initiates keep hiding his cookbooks”
Oh, we're discussing the Alpha Legion? Video reported as misinformation.
(I'm joking, put your bolter down)
Personally, I believe that Alpharius is still alive, but on that same token, revealing him to be alive would ruin much of the mystery of the legion.
I am alpharius!
This is a lie.
I am Alpharius
@@joluotothat can’t be. I am alpharius!
These lies are true.
You are all Alpharius.
I know this to be so.
For I am Alpharius as well.
What you think about the old Dawn of War videogame as a starting point into 40k? That what got me into 40k years ago.
Whatever Dorn is up to, we know he's doing it single handed.
"There WERE six routes into the palace that only Dorn knew about...until the Alpha Legion found one of them."
Dorn: *"I am REINSTALLING THE PALACE!"* 😉
Congratulations on the engagement, I don’t know if you should suggest a red handprint on her white dress though. lol best wishes.
Could they have even infiltrated or manipulated the Custodes to imprison him there as 'subject XI'? All nice and safely tucked away with no chance of anyone uncovering who he is
...👏👏👏! ... also for the algorithm.
Amazing stream brother. I always appreciate a look inside the headspace of a lore master like yourself. Thank you!
Sandman not mentioning the King in Yellow for one video.
Challenge: Impossible.
Great vid as always, my favourite Legion just got more interesting.
Honestly always a pleasure!
Great vid again!
Sandman you being the least bad option makes you the best man for the job congratulations
50:54 Big E cut off a part of his soul in the Inevitable City, which then became the City of Dust. Logically, that part of his soul would be easier to fetch from the same place it was cut off at
Ekhm - Alpha(P)ri(m)us
Gargant cake at the wedding!
Wedding table is The Lions table, every other table is named after each captain. The kids table is Cypher
Your wedding should be officiated by Alpharius.
John told ingo if he moved slow enough he could escape
For your wedding, you need to wear a purity seal on the lapel of your suit/coat/shirt/tux.
And end your vows with, "by your word."
SANDMAN GIVING US ALPHA LEGION CONTENT?! GOD BLESS!!!
Let him name the tables!
FINALLY someone else who believes the Kahn will be the next Primarch to come back. It's the only choice the makes logical sense when you look at everyone's disappearance lore
My very first literary introduction to Warhammer 40k was the Space Wolf Omnibus I and II. With a friend named Google, I did just fine! This was back in 2012. lol.
Those were great books.
The first rule of Alpha Legion, is that you dont talk about Alpha Legion….
The 2nd rule of Alpha Legion is that YOU DONT TALK ABOUT ALPHA LEGION…
I can see from all the new faces here today, we definitely fucked off those first 2 so let me tell you the rest of it so we can get fight clu…i mean Alpha Legion underway….
3rd rule of alpha legion is, i am Alpharius….
-Alpharius…probably…
You mean Omegon final plan? Omegon who really is Alpharius because they switched places before siege of Terra? Which was a triple layered lie?
The alpha legion is significantly more interesting as a loyalist faction with alpharious still alive. I wish they took advantage of them more in the lore
Alpha Legion is literally Mac from Its Always Sunny meme, "Im playing both sides so i always come up on top"
I'd like to see the Alpha legion come in as the true saviors of humanity - not by siding with the Imperium, but by destroying both the Imperium AND chaos. Perhaps by killing the Emperor AND sealing the Eye of Terror at the same time. It would buy them time on one front long enough to restructure the Imperium with Guilliman's help and mount an actual defense for humanity.
It's obvious that GW isn't going to END the status quo for the wider war, but I think they also realize that they're going to have to do SOMETHING big soon. You've got to shake up something because as it stands, humanity doesn't stand a chance of holding even another 100 years, let alone actually "win."
My view of the Alpha Legion divides it into three broad categories. The first is the warbands. These are the most obvious, because they are the least subtle. They are raiders and reavers; sorcerers and savages. Lord Bale and Sindri Myr from Dawn of War fall into this category. Second, there are the splinter cells. These are the lone operatives and sleeper agents which show up in the Alpha Legion short stories. Some act as spy masters, recruiting and coordinating others. Many are free agents or puppets of larger players. They follow ideologies like those of radical Inquisitors such as Xanthism or Istvaanism. Deathrow from the Bequin series fits this mode. Finally, there is the Unbroken Chain. This is the true legion and it's spy masters know the plan and pull the strings. They are playing the long game seek no goal beyond the survival of humanity.
Hot take: Ingo Pech actually IS the real Alpharius. Before Pech's identity was revealed, I theorised that given the circumstances, if primarch Alpharius actually intended to have an impact on the outcome of the Siege, he would have as specific a plan as possible and projected minimum requirements to ensure the greatest probability of successful execution. And since this is literally THE big moment with maximum uncertainty and magnitude of potential opposition, only the primarch's direct presence would come close to meeting this threshold for success. As far as I'm concerned, for anyone but Alpharius himself to run this mission makes no logical sense. And the very problem that arises with Pech being mind-controlled by Actae flat-out proves this to be the case - unless somehow the intended plan was to have events unfold exactly as they did, which is prophetically exacting for events unfolding in the literal heart of Chaos manifest, and either way, a primarch's abilities vastly outweigh any legionary's abilities across the board, so I maintain the only logical course would be for Alpharius to be present himself.
Maybe it wasn't top priority that Alpha Legion have a strong influence or very specific parameters. Maybe there was another mission of greater importance and Alpharius was running that one elsewhere. But, given the above parameters being at all accurate, I say Alpha Legion's place in the Siege was poorly crafted, or Aplharius was in fact masquerading as Ingo Pech. That's my take, enjoy ;)
Fulgrim was shot in the head and shook it off like it was nothing then cloned and preserved in "perfect" form. Ferrus Manus and Alpharius are my favorite Primarchs. Guess how I feel about Fulgrim and the writers that prop him up while tearing others down. It's safe to say that Alpharius' death was the last straw in my 40k love. now I only check in on videos now, to see if GW has collapsed yet or if they've come to their senses.
Someone at the wedding - “I didn’t know you were so religious”
You - “Be careful with your words, my in-laws are here so there are inquisitors amongst us”
Hey Sandman, I only have RUclips ReVanced Extended and so memberships don't work for me, is there another way I can support the channel monetarily and join the discord as if I were a Member?
I hope fulgrim doesn’t find his clone, I can picture a loyalist primarch saying go and f yourself. Then fulgrim will be like hmmmmmmmmm hold my beer. Trazyn!!! 😂
Warhammer wedding table names after angels is gold
Given the Imperium's general stance of those from traitor stock can only be traitors, i find it difficult to beleive that the Custodes, the BIGGEST Astartes haters, woukd find stasis bound Alpha Legion and think it a good idea to try and use them.
Cake Topper; Sanguinous and a penitent Sister of Silence in Power Armour?
If you get push back mention your love of Deathguard, no one wants a plague lord on their wedding cake?
I'm looking forward to hearing your thoughts about Perturabo. He's my Primarch, for good or ill. You sort of know which one you're attached to in this hobby. Iron Within, Iron Without! ✊️
So evidence FOR deathrow being an alpha legionnaire from under the Palace would be in the harrowmaster novel it's revealed that introducing yourself as 'I am Alpharius' has fallen out of fashion and isn't something a 'modern' alpha legionnary would be likely to say.
On the other hand this could just be a case of pariah having been written 10 years ago and new lore not really meshing well with it.
Hoooooly.... I just noticed the Legionnaire on the cover of Legion has a Deathwatch arm. *Oh god, what does this MEAN!?*
Random theory... 3 brothers Alpha Omega and Beta. 2 lost legions 1 lost 1 purged referring to never found primarch and an already chaos primarch, so omega and beta took their places training both legions to be alpha and then folding them into ultra marines so the ultramarines are 2/3 alpha. when alpha fought dorn alpha actually won and replaced dorn. when emp was done fighting horus dorn/alpha replaced the emp's body with omega to make omega into a god. and eventually they took out guilliman and put beta in his place, between the 3 the alpha legion in charge of almost all of humanity and even has assets manipulating things within chaos legions.
My personal favorite outcome would be the twins fighting together as loyalists. I guess I'm an optimist but i really dislike the idea of twins hating eachother.
The Alpha Legion ARE THE BEST! They are the smart ones the most loyal of all! We are ALL Alpharius! Omegon rules now!
How many Alpha Legionnaires are there under the palace? I thought it was only a handful of them, not a whole secret army. That’s a big difference…
While I love the idea of a third primarch for Alpha Legion, it doesn't work with the naming theme. Alpharius and Omegon work because Alpha and Omega are the first and last and it from the bible. There's no name for the third one that would fit.
There is one alpha legion theory: Alpha legion use three greek letters, alpha, omega and sigma, that should mean we have Alpharius, Omegon, and Sigmarius/Sigmar.
Hydra Dominatus
The Alpha Legion is basically an entire legion of Fallen. It’s the only traitor legion that one could really call ‘renegade’ as a whole rather then being a full on chaos legion (overall, there are still many Alpha Legion chaos marines just like there are many fallen chaos space marines)
....I say pop
What did Alpharius feel when he left his brother to die on Pluto? They're twins, and they share a soul, so did Omegon's death break him or something?
Hideo Kojima is respectable creator/designer/writer of video games, such as death stranding, metal gear, snatcher
Question: Which one are You Alpharius or Omegon ?
Answer: Yes...
Random side note, the number 8 does hold the symbolism of New Begging.
So......