Why Muslims Are Cancelling Tate & Peterson
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- Опубликовано: 10 окт 2023
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We as Muslims need to be critical thinkers, and not behave like horny teenagers online, thirsting for fame.
100% agree
That teenager comment gave me a bit of a giggle 😂.
The orientalist depiction of Muslim men as sex obsessed, less committed to building a civil society, etc - they made every effort to prove to be true.
@@williambarylo Andrew Tate isn't Muslim. He referred to Allah as a concept that is real only if people think it exists. He doesn't actually believe in a living God and so I don't think he believes in the afterlife. He's so materialistic and his actions that are just wrong is not a beginner struggling to change. I think he got caught and he's using his fame to cover it up and pass it off as a new member of the community struggling.
@@Headhand-qd9so i wish we could know what's happening inside his mind!
"If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppression" -Malcolm X
This quote is forever true
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@MuhibAfzal “President Kennedy never foresaw that the chickens would come home to roost so soon,” the Muslim leader said in 1963. “Being an old farm boy myself, chickens coming home to roost never did make me sad; they always made me glad.” - Malcolm X
Mohammed showed his nakedness before more than 10 females including a Girl Child...!!!
That means more than 10 females including a Girl Child saw his nakedness...!!! This is a public show of his nakedness...!!! For getting company his act, he allowed his followers to marry 4 women at a time to attract more men to his Religion...!!! Mohammed is not a Prophet from God but a self styled, self declared False Prophet...!!!
Islam (Quran) will Glorify all Evil acts of Mohammed, who married more than 10 women including a girl child...!!!
Islam (Quran) will Glorify all Evil acts of Mohammed, who taught to Rape Women of other Religions...!!!
Islam (Quran) will Glorify all Evil acts of Mohammed, who taught to Kill Men, Women and Children of other Religions...!!!
Islam (Quran) will Glorify all Evil acts of Mohammed, who taught to Hate Men, Women and Children of other Religions...!!!
Islam (Quran) will Glorify all Evil acts of Mohammed, who taught to keep Enmity against Men, Women and Children of other Religions...!!!
@@iftekarahmed2045 Malcolm x wasn't a traditional Muslim and he denounce the nation of Islam.
He also didn't care for the Democratic party.
There a lot more info you guys should read!
A lot of Muslims were hoping and praying that Jordan would convert to Islam. Based on what? I really don’t know. Maybe because he had an interview with Hamza Yusuf. And many were over the moon to see someone famous like Andrew converting to Islam.
But this reveals how insecure a lot of Muslims are. We tend to seek validation from people of the West to prove firstly to us before to themselves that our religion is the truth. If the same people go astray, our faith weakens as a result.
I was not in the slightest happy to see someone like Andrew converting to Islam. When I listen to him, all I understand that he has embraced Islam for purely worldly reasons. So the starting point for converting is wrong and everything built on a shaky ground has the potential to collapse any moment just like the weak faith of many, unfortunately.
So those public figures and our support to them is revealing nothing but our insecurities and our weak Imaan.
I regard you highly brother. If I need to be proud of any, I’ll be proud of people like you.
Very good analysis! thank you!
@@williambarylo We are learning from you brother!
Good analysis, I have seen many videos for those two. I think Andrew is still misled and needs to educate himself, unfortunately the internet has a long memory and he does not know when to say I don't know or I don't have enough knowledge on this issue. Jordan is just Jordan and we know where he stands.
thank you!
@@williambaryloJordan isn't saying that about the people of Palestin his saying that for Hamas why do you Muslims straw man to make someone look bad but through context we know his talking about Hamas
Andrew Tate has his strengths but one should remember he's just coming into Islam.
He has lived a very weird life and they got rid by being mass gurus of some idiotic philosophy. He got out of the obvious haram stuff . But his business model is still extremely dodgy. I haven't gone in detail about their exact business model but it seems exploitative on the outset. The wealth show off is quite embarrassing.
@@70newlife Bra what Islam teaches is even worse than what they do he became Muslim my thoughts is because it allows him to do those immoral shit
Dr William you are brilliant. I am so glad I found your channel alhamdulillah. May Allah elevate you, increase you, accept from you and grant you more tawfeeq to do more excellent work.
Ameen. thank you.
People are selective. Also, Peterson has been hired by Ben Shapiro (Daily Wire) who is Far right. As you know, the Far Right support Israel and Peterson even interviewed Benjamin N and agreed with his political ideology. Knowing this, it's natural that he would support Israel and their cause. He pretty much sold his soul and lies to himself when he says that he is not conservative. The man is a walking contradiction who has influence + has a degree to make people question themselves on a psychological level + could talk well. If you're a religious person or even cultured, you have to be careful of this man's mind games and if you're smart enough, you'll be able see that he's just stringing people along. The one good thing that came out of him is his popular book to help you grow up.
They didn't go into business for the 99% who could see through them, but for the 1% who would worship them
I've only discovered your channel recently and I feel like I'm meeting a dear old friend. I've always took the path of wondering why things are the way they are in my general way of thinking that made some people weirded out by me throughout my life as to why I would even think of "that". I did not know this was basically what psychology was all about. I did not pursue the path of psychology and became an engineer instead. I love learning about psychology whenever I can. Please, do not stop making content!👍
Thank you so much!
I used to think that being a Muslim prevented one from becoming a fanboy, that a Muslim would and should have an innate insight to things that a nonbeliever simply would not and could not have. Then I saw the way some of these guys were crying over Tate, practically begging him to convert to Islam. Then I saw how hurt some Muslims were over Jordan Ben Peterstein's "Message", as if JP hadn't already been saying things against Islam as far back as 2016.
It's honestly pathetic to me how some Muslims fall in love with famous kuffar, and then let themselves get hurt when they realize that maybe those famous kuffar don't feel the same way back (Andrew Tate is mostly an exception to this since he did convert, but I'm speaking in general).
I agree! It's crazy how quick are people at making idols out of people
Also, your critique of Muslim "da'ees" platforming these people is very on point. They were thirsty for clicks and recognition and now they just look foolish. The problem is that most of these so called Dawah channels chase the algorithms like any other RUclips channel. They'll say that they're doing it in order for the message to reach as many people as possible, but surely you have to draw the line somewhere if you want to maintain a principled position.
100% That's the drawbacks of doing RUclips for money
A real believer would never listen to Andrew Tate or Jordan Peterson
Or at least not make idols out of them!
I 1000% say cancel both. I honestly never liked either one of them. Tate advocates for the humiliation, control and abuse of all women. Old and sad Peterson is just a lost soul and after he is canceled after his ignorant post, he will just go in his corner and cry like he usually does. Peterson is ignorant and can never donate anyone about any of his ideas but when anyone questions his he just cries, that is so weird.
I'm glad you did this video even in its unpolished form because these things need to be said and I myself get so worked up about this topic that I cannot speak about it and you articulated it in just the right way mashallah
Thank you!
The Feachaz channel was discussing this ages ago. It was sad seeing some Muslim RUclipsrs exposing these people to their audience.
Indeed, very few people saw it straight at the beginning
Thank you for your message! And keep up the good work!
Jazaak ALLAHU khayr my brother.
Wa Iyak
JazakAllah Khair, this was a great video!
Thank you!
We're cancelling JP but NOT Andrew Tate. I believe Andrew is being misunderstood there, he's saying that Israel has created this theater.
For some, the "Zionists magician" was the last straw. He even blocked 5Pillars from his account. Everybody knows that when you block 5Pillars your reputation is dead. At least in the UK
Lol 5pillarz is garbage
@mistjuul990 Watch the 5Pillars video from 6:53 ruclips.net/video/XnGliR4yIu4/видео.htmlsi=Qf2bKsY2OOEdjr2e&t=413
He is still friends with a self-identifying "Zionist sorcerer" who manages his War Room and who calls publicly for the genocide of women and children
Merci pour cette analyse, je me perds aussi dans tout ça et c'est bien de voir des gens comme toi qui nous calme un peu, après pour Tate je pense qu'il continue quand-même à avoir le même rapport à l'argent qu'il a toujours eu donc il va continuer à jouer son caractère le plus connu et concernant sa position sur ce qui se passe en Palestine je suis tout à fait d'accord, il aurait pas dû s'aventurer.
Peterson de toutes façons on sait tous ce qu'il a dans sa tête lorsqu'il s'agit de l'islam. Et je m'attendais pas moins de lui.
Quand tout le monde fonce tête baissée, parfois c'est à se demander si on n'est pas fou à être les seuls à ne pas les suivre!
@@williambaryloKindly create short form content. When we share long videos, our friends procrastinate & don't watch. Once they watch short content, they will check out your long videos as well.
@@williambarylo I know you must have a busy schedule. You Ca ask your subscribers for assistance in making shorts.
@@aub3365 I give you the green light for that. I don't have friends who can do that sadly
@@aub3365 ... But I'm also thinking, what if my content is not meant for short form? But yeah. If you think it's important, feel free to ask around too.
Sadly, true.
Instead of people educating themselves about Islam, they will find role models on the Internet (even if you consciously think what they are doing, you will find out they are doing Un-Islamic things a lot, should we really rely on them when they are doing it?)
The only role models we can pick are the prophets of Allah.
If someone can't read what other prophets did then at least they should read about Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) life.
Reading the Quran and the Sunnah would help, but unfortunately i don't think many muslims do that.
When people look for the Qur'an on TikTok, TikTok becomes their Qur'an
Unfortunately that's the state of most muslims these days.
It's easy to spread misinformation that way.
5:56 nice word... we need to have a critical thinking mind... tq dr William for your advise.. assalammualaikum
WaAlaykumSalaam. thank you
Thanks brother
Muslims are not cancelling tate, only peterstein
People are going crazy with his "Zionist magician" as head of the war room. And Tate blocked 5Pillars. Everybody knows that when you block 5Pillars, your reputation is dead. At least in the UK
2:40 Do you have any examples of the things he said that aren't based on scientific evidence?
Thank you 😊
His doubts about climate change models, that poverty is caused by a lack of financial planning, his Map of Meanings, etc...
Merci beaucoup mon frère. En effet, je sens que la boussole est perdue ces derniers temps. Normalement ça devrait être simple pour les musulmans, surtout les bien instruits d'entre eux,. Notre idol est le prophète Mahomed et notre référence est le Coran et Sunnah. Tout ce qui se présente à nous doit être critiqué et analysé par rapport à cette référence. Mais le pouvoir du dominant et sa culture deboussole le plus malin d'entre nous si j'ose dire. Nous les musulmans, et surtout les arabes, manquons de pragmatisme. J'espère que vous continuez à nous présenter ce genre de contenu. Que Allah vous aide et vous protège, vous et votre famille. Votre grande sœur de la Tunisie. Bonne soirée
Ameen et merci!
The creator of content on social networking sites either creates content that the audience or sponsors love, so these channels are not a source of knowledge, they are public relations and sales. What you are saying: I wish I could translate it into all languages and publish it.
Exactly. Well said
I get Jordan petrrson! But Andrew Tate?? Come on that's a bit ott! I don't think he said anything that serious intentionally!! Just sad to see how some can misunderstand what he said..
Not anything as explicit and intentional as peterson !!
People are really quick at judging. Watch the 5Pillars video from 6:53 ruclips.net/video/XnGliR4yIu4/видео.htmlsi=Qf2bKsY2OOEdjr2e&t=413
I think the main problem is that he is still friends with a self-identifying "Zionist sorcerer" who manages his War Room and who calls publicly for the genocide of civilians
I'm not cancelling Tate. Not yet anyways.
In a way or the other, it's always wise not to follow the crowds and make your own judgement. People are too quick at judging nowadays
That's a very intelligent assessment, brother.
thank you. It's not even my opinion, just plain legal facts!
I I really admire your honesty and siding with justice no matter what . You are right about Jordon Peterson how he is untruthful cruel person with double standards who calls for genocide . As for Andrew Tate I don’t think he was cancelled. He was criticized by 5 pillars for not voicing the whole truth . His representative said that he was still under threat of Romanian legal system and he can’t speak his full mind. I don’t think he has ill intentions but limited powers! He always defend his religion .
I think his alliance with the Zionist sorcerer didn't go well with many, and he blocked 5Pillars... which in the UK means killing your reputation. Sadly people are really quick to judge
@@williambarylo. I think Andrew Tate personality is to have hundreds of acquaintances but that doesn’t mean they’re all his best friends. That’s how he got introduced to Islam. After he reverted he didn’t cut off his old friends but that doesn’t mean he would agree with their views. And some of them even got influenced by his search for truth and reverted too!
Andrew is a new Muslim who was just out of jail. He is self improving step by step. He seems faithful to his religion and beliefs! Unfortunately he lives in a land full of Zionists. That person you mentioned did Andrew ever condone his views or said he’s his best friend! Of course he should be carful and move away from people with bad influence who can harm him and other Muslims!
Thank you so much, may Allah bless you.
Thank you and you too
A loootttt of Muslim men were cheering on and along with these two men. I guess because what they spoke about was how women should/can be controlled and how women standing for their rights was wrong.
I know a few.
It’s unbelievable how double the standards can be.
Accurate!
May Allah bless you brother
and you too!
No muslims are canceling Tate, we all love and respect Tate. Stop misinformation and lies.
Watch the 5Pillars video from 6:53 ruclips.net/video/XnGliR4yIu4/видео.htmlsi=Qf2bKsY2OOEdjr2e&t=413
He is still friends with a self-identifying "Zionist sorcerer" who manages his War Room and who calls publicly for the genocide of civilians. Maybe that's ok with you, but 5Pillars represent a considerable number of Muslims in the UK
Allah bless you
Ameen and you too
I also wonder the same like there are prominent islamic figure in sport but still the hatreds for muslims in france still continue and escalating, so today Alhamdulillah i came to realize it.. jazakallah
Indeed, once they are a national treasure, the following day they're just migrants
I agree
Thank you
we should ignore those famous personalities and their statements ,,,and we should learn to become useful and create the change we want
100% Agree
Salam Alikum...
I figured out Peterson years back. I wanted to give Tate some time as reverting is a process....
I was wrong and I'm sad he's not where he ought to be religiously speaking.
He's still got time to change and correct himself. Time will tell...
Andrew has changed his ways since he joined islam he does not talk of the webcam business anymore, jordan peterson however had the opposite effect of joining zionism, we believe in forgiveness of past mistakes especially if someone is sincere.
5Pillars offered him to explain himself, but he blocked them. Shame
@@williambarylo There are many things he is wrong about since he is new to the religion, but i don't see the point of making public videos in order to cause more stir among the muslims, such as 5pillars. Despite what he said he has posted many other tweets defending Palestinians and is doing a lot of work to actually help them rather than sitting on the internet and causing division. I totally see his point of view of blocking anyone as such because he believes in action rather than taking.
I don’t think there cancelling Tate
People are going crazy with his "Zionist magician" as head of the war room. And Tate blocked 5Pillars. Everybody knows that when you block 5Pillars, your reputation is dead. At least in the UK
Good.
Before gender, skin colour & ideology we're all human beings. Humanity is a practice not just our species & the antidote too inhumanity. We are what we practice & reap what we sow. Humanity v inhumanity. We all pick a side it's just a question of perception & matter of practice.✌🧡
Indeed
Patterson is brilliant.
Cecil Patterson was a great psychologist but died in 2006
Jordan Peterson is a genius.
Yh it was disgusting how much they were sucking up to these people!
People are very desperate for role models and don't realise that old ones work very well... even if they didn't have lamborghinis back then!
Nobody is canceling MR Andrew Tate
Watch the 5Pillars video from 6:53 ruclips.net/video/XnGliR4yIu4/видео.htmlsi=Qf2bKsY2OOEdjr2e&t=413
He is still friends with a self-identifying "Zionist sorcerer" who manages his War Room and who calls publicly for the genocide of women and children. And he blocked 5Pillars. Everyone knows that if you block 5Pillars, your reputation is dead. At least in the UK
I analyzed last 2 years on Andrew Tate . I understand that Tate is not completely fool on muslim and he still monthly 10K to 100K dollar sent the Palestine charity on the other side Peterson now full of blind on Muslim religion the the Palestine conflict.
Indeed, Tate has a lot of learning to do.
As an educated person we always seek the truth, whatever ur nation or religion
Tate and sneako is still young, I didn't really expect that he could representing good Islam but they are philosophy person so time ll answer... maybe they will growing beard too lmao
Islam is hard but I'm surprised if westener understand this religion they will all out, I mean became so religious while I'm here still like hv clean face and using t-shirt in daily activities
Yes, they may have some learning to do and be careful with what they say to their audience
Why Tate 😔 get cancel
Watch the video in the description
Critical thinking advocated by belivers of magic man in the sky. Gold!
ruclips.net/video/0p_1QSUsbsM/видео.html
Because both warmonger and that is not what Islam is about...
I don’t cancel andrew. I like him. God guide him and us
We cancelled JP not andrew.
Wo is "we"? Maybe outside the UK but once 5Pillars give their verdict, lots of UK people follow!
I'm not a Muslim but try to understand different perspectives. I really don't care forTate and believe that though he occasionally has some good ideas he's an opportunist.
However, I think its extremely disingenuous of you to say that Jordan Peterson was "advocating the massacre of civillians in Gaza". He was clearly referring to Hamas, after the actual massacre they carried out in Israel. Nevertheless, he publicly regretted speaking impulsively, without further explanation. You can refer to his long form video to get a a more nuanced take.
You're a softly spoken man though it is apparent to me that you're trying to divide people in society based on religion. People should be able to have different takes on what is happening in the Middle East without being cancelled. In fact that's necessary for our society not to become increasingly polarised.
I'm analysing reactions in the Muslim media, and why they have cancelled him. He knows what the IDF strategy has been in the past years so there's no valid excuse for him to encourage a repeat of history
When Dr Peterson said give them hell he means Hamas and not ordinary Gazans saying so is a strawmans argument
He explained later indeed. However he admitted he didn't think about the potential the impact of his first tweet in the current context.
As’Salaam Alaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakaatuh. Avoid these negative subjects.
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No Andrew Tate was not cancelled
Watch the 5Pillars video from 6:53 ruclips.net/video/XnGliR4yIu4/видео.htmlsi=Qf2bKsY2OOEdjr2e&t=413
He is still friends with a self-identifying "Zionist sorcerer" who manages his War Room and who calls publicly for the genocide of civilians. And he blocked 5Pillars UK. Everyone in the UK knows that when you block 5 Pillars, your reputation is dead
@@williambaryloI am British, and I didn't knew 5Pillars was THAT well known.
People should wake up and use their brains🧠🧠🧠 there are those who, regrettably, resemble sheep, obediently trailing the Judas goat.
People should always practice Deliberate doubt by doubting the beliefs and assumptions of others, and stop being blinded followers
"Surely the worst of beasts in God's sight are those that are deaf and dumb and do not reason. (8:22)"
"Power to the sheeple" (a mission in Watch Dogs 2)
With all due respect, Tate is a new muslim. We are attricious at public opinion and cancelling. Tate has much to work on. Im afraid the public cancellation will lead him away from iman and truth. Take time to reach out, dont damn people
There are two problems: he's a new Muslim with millions of followers who consider him as a role model; and you have crowds unable to do their own research before forming an opinion - and thus quick at condemning people
Jordan is done cant this guy liar
Sad it took so long for people to realise!
I find it sad that people like Peterson and Tate are "thought leaders." I see them both as supporting the oppression of other people. Peterson has very rigid views on gender and sexuality that he seems to think everyone should adhere to. Tate is an actual exploiter and abuser of women, a total misogynist, alleged sex trafficker and rapist. I don't have positive views of the manosphere since it is toxic to women (and imo, to men as well). I see these two people as seeking dominance over women and gender minorities, which is to say they dehumanize people.
Well spotted!
I can understand Tate being cancelled because hes a pillock
I wish it was the main reason!
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Tate Is Fake.
I feel that by looking in to his face and act. He need attention from people.
WIse man talks lesser and does not shaw great and shaw of...
To me Tate is fake.
GOD knows, but is how i feel.
Well, it almost rhymes!
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Theres nothing wrong with being rich and teaching people to be rich but a lot of Andrew's behaviour seems antithetical to Islam. He overspends and shows off his wealth. And as for the psyop thing he should be crying for the Palestinians. They have even less when Andrew had nothing.
100% Agree!
Andrew is on the side of Palestinians and is doing enough to feed them, stop spreading misinformation.
that was not the point of 5Pillars. Watch the 5Pillars video from 6:53 ruclips.net/video/XnGliR4yIu4/видео.htmlsi=Qf2bKsY2OOEdjr2e&t=413
He is still friends with a self-identifying "Zionist sorcerer" who manages his War Room and who calls publicly for the genocide of civilians
Why dont Muslims cancel hamas😂 seriously hamas has cause the death of the innocent Palestinians. Blind. God bless the innocent people suffering from the hate and revenge of these two countries.
Most people don't agree with the Hamas's strategy, even the PLO, the main political Palestinian coalition
If those guys should be canceled you as well should be canceled for being disingenuous and having no credibility and also taking a side. Historically Jews have as much right to land in that area as much as Palestinian do
Then the Israeli Supreme Court of Justice should be cancelled for stating that settlements are illegal under International and Israeli law
@@williambarylo cancel them
We need more muslims to expose Andrew. He is not a good person and is using our religion for clout
some people say that he still has time to improve
I stand with Israeli 🇺🇸❤️🇮🇱
Only terrorists stand with Israel
You'll be on your belly in hell, enjoy it you baby killer!
Yeah Give em hell 🙃
Careful. Shaky grounds
Then prepare to fall with them into to the pit.