The Complete LOADING SCREEN TIPS Ranking in Eu4
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
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what are you talking about you dont use "c" to split artillery from army? i use it all the time.
every scornful insult tier list
BASED
Unironically not a bad idea
I didn't know i needed that, but now i do
bump for bump
reminds me of SOTL's video on ranking AOE2 ai surrender messages
sanest eu4 player
I am peak sanity indeed
An event tier list would go hard.
... into the 24 hour video timelimit on RUclips, indeed. There are 1,590 events in Eu4, as off 3 patches ago.
@@LemonCake101 "Alright guys welcome back to episode 307 of eu4 events ranked, so the burgundian inheritance is s tier"
Comet sighted F tier.
Don't distract him from the province tier list
@@kyleadelaide ulm s tier or riot
I did not see this one coming xD
It worked surprisingly well!
I actually choked on my drink when I read the video title
Good to hear, this is definitely one of my more interesting ideas for sure
That one about the advisors has made me scratch my head whenever I see it - because in my mind the advisors gives me points (as the primary function) and then the speciality is the added extra.
Fair enough, but I have also heard the opposite reaction in fairness
@@LemonCake101 The reason I say this is that I would only re-roll for a specific advisor in a few limited circumstances where the specialty is necessary (or incredibly helpful) to my next plan (e.g. I need that extra Diplo Rep to get a big alliance) - but most of the time just getting any advisor of the right level is my concern. I think that's especially true when you upgrade them past Level3
I agree except for some mil advisors, but most people starting the game don’t value it that way, and I definitely didn’t when I started. I think most people don’t understand how good and important mana is when they begin playing
Let's make every trade center tier list (that exist in 1444 and that can be created through missions)
The Bavarian one can be created on any province... wait no this is just a province tier list
World Trade Center
This is how you know it’s time for EU5. If the tier lists are now to the loading screens, content has been exhausted
I have content to work through, I just thought this would be fun!
@@LemonCake101 didn’t mean anything by it. Just ready for EU5!
@@dominiclanzillotta8643 fair enough, Eu5 should be interesting
Now you need to do a tierlist of all the loading screens
Thankfully not many of those!
Loading screen tip 6 is something I didnt know for years.......
I would always first go into the province view and then click on the country flag.
Fair enough I guess! I think most people found out by just clicking around
TIL if you right-click on a country - you go to the Diplomacy screen! 5000 hours in and I am just learning this 😂
This tierlist is wonderful. Actually showing what you are talking about is a 9000x increase compared to having a trade note tierlist where the viewer has to constantly needs to have the game open to check where things are.
I really struggled with the trade node tier list in terms of how to show it, and gave up trying to be honest
Dude never misses. Another critical video to play while I get stomped by very hard diff ottomans with quantity.
Enjoy!
War exhaustion is actually very useful if you want to get the "court and country" (or whatever it's called) disaster. By the time of absolutism you're pretty much incapable of getting to positive unrest unless you fully occupy an enemy and then just ignore the surrender deals until you reach +1 unrest from the exhaustion.
Yeah, it's not going to be useful every game but don't underestimate how important +20 max absolutism can be for republics, especially since most of the best republican gov reforms cost max absolutism.
No I am a court and country enjoyer, I just prefer getting there with 1k OE.
@@LemonCake101 Fair enough, I bow down.
Bro is STALLING on the national ideas tier list
Yeah I will need a big bribe for that
Sure. What the hell. I’ll watch it.
Enjoy!
The thing about winter attrition is actually really helpful if there aren't forts to siege, and you're just walking through siberia. It HURTS to do in winter, and is basically fine otherwise. So, fall back to your fort sieges or occupied provinces, instead of marching deeper into the white death. This was even more relevant back before ZoC forts.
The Overseas don't give Overextension bit used to be outright true back when it was written. The "no overextension from colonized land" thing exists because fresh colonies used to not be cored.
it also helps in the niche case where your army fits just right into the supply limit. the moment winter comes, you'll start taking attrition
On the third tip. I really didn’t know advisors gave you points at the start. I started Eu4 by not watching a single gameplay video on it having no clue how the game functioned. I only knew what it was. So after a while I allowed myself to watch eu4 videos and then learnt how advisors gave you monarch points 😅
The "right click on a province to open diplomacy" tip is rather useful in a game with otherwuse ENTIRELY left click controls.
Until I saw that loading screen tip i didnt even know there was any rigt click functionality in the game
When it comes to the monarch point generation limmit, remember that tributaries can give you more monarch points on a yearly basis. Even as a non-East Asian religion nation, you can still get tributaries by full annexing a country that had tributaries (just like you gain a vassal if you annex their overlord).
Least insane lemoncake video
The best tip for me has awlways been "even after several thousands of hours you can still discover new mechanics"
I its not exactly what they said but it was something like that and it could not be any more true
1:02:49 This tip made me think for the longest time that being a rival gives you decreased war score cost vs rivals
I wish it did :(
Damn I actually learnt more than I care to admit watching this
Glad you enjoyed!
honestly, this is my favourite video you ever made, brilliant idea
Thanks, I had fun with this one!
Choosing the idea groups carefully is a a tier tip for people that lack a certain dlc (no clue which one) that allows you to cancel idea groups. I found this out the hard way, that in a game with no dlc you cannot abandon idea groups once you have taken them even when you havent taken any ides.
Oh god, I never knew you could right click countries to go to diplomacy! I only every left click then left click their shield icon!
Great idea! Peak EU4 content! But!
Whats wrong with 4-8 years republic election cycle tip? I always thought it was right. Do you have issue with the one Italian reform, that givess you 12 years cycle? Or the one without election cycle, like the Venetian one or dictatorship? Or the fact, you can have elections every 3 years with T2 reform?
Sheet. Now I see your point and I feel bad about my favorit tip. Sad EU4 noises.
Yeah sorry. Hope you enjoy the rest of the video though!
I think #51 "mercenaries help you save manpower" is actually a pretty good tip for a beginner. It isn't necessarily obvious that that's the true benefit of mercenaries. Some beginners might think of them as a bonus for when you're rich, or to build when you've run out of manpower already - rather than realizing that they're important to use proactively so that their separate manpower pool soaks up casualties and attrition for you.
6:20 kinda funny cause the WR for world conquest actually looses wars and provinces iirc twice
I find it funny that you gave "Loading Tip 6" a D ranking when I wasn't even aware of it, and I've got nearly 5k hours in the game. This entire time I've just been left clicking on a province and then clicking the "diplomacy" button on the province window, when I could have just been right-clicking the province. I don't think I've ever even seen that loading tip, or if I have I didn't understand what it was actually saying (which I don't think you fully understood what it was actually saying either.)
If there's a "teching is not always a viable option" tip it should be S tier. As a Stellaris player if I ever started playing EU4 that information would have had to been drilled into my skull for me to absorb it
"Don't conquer all your enemy's provinces in one war" - I have always thought it to be more of a warning about aggressive expansion than overextension and it kinda covers both.
Also policies tier list when?
Policy tier list is a touch too adjacent to idea group tier list for me, and ranking idea groups is a great way of starting Drama since it would be basically me telling a whole bunch of RUclipsrs in insane detail how they are wrong.
1:14:08 kinda true, IRL you want to get trust to banks (taking loans of easily obvious things that you can pay back to be able to take credit for sure bets (like financining a house or a apartment, or to do something like that) but definitly not take a loan for something that is a risky bet, it is good to have a "good payer" fame with banks rather than being a wildcard and to create that you need to take safe loans, but overral do not take loans they make the thing you want to buy expensier most of the time.
You need to do a tech level tier list. Either do one list with all the three techs, or do three lists for each tech
Disagree with the light ship one, if you are in a good trade node like the english channel light ship spam does give you a very good return on investment. And when you have taken over the trade node just move them downstream
4:03 Usually siege break off especially in winter because the threat of mutiny. But here, your army are 100% loyal so of course continuing the siege is better. :v
If you haven't done it yet a region tier list could be fun.
Anatolia, Balkans ect. Value of the provinces inside, benefits and challenges from playing in/conquering the region ect.
Good pont with 74 and listing innovative as another example
Whens the tier list for every single nation at the start date?
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@@LemonCake101 thats fair
Ok i feel the right click thingie on a spiritual level and i have a lot of hours in eu4 . I also dont think i have ever seen that message
Maybe i just forgot this was a thing .I pretty much always clicked the province and then the shield.
Province + Shield is the classic in fairness
I suspect that the reason behind tip #67 calling them national ideas was that it was written early in the game's history by someone more familiar with EU3. The last expansion of EU3 added loading screen tips to that game, and in EU3, there were no unique idea sets for each country, but rather "national ideas" that were really like what regular ideas are in EU4. You accessed them pretty much the same way (certain admin tech levels gave you access to more) but instead of sets of 7, you only picked 1. Obviously much less "build" diversity and unique country flavor back then!
Ah that's an interesting shout in fairness, that would make sense.
Oh my God. I can't believe there's a tierlist for this. i'm laughing my ass off!!!
What’s the timestamp for the giraffe hint? I’ll listen to the whole thing anyways but I really want to see the ranking for the giraffe one
The advisor one. On my first game, my friend was "yeah im making 16 mana points each a month"
And then there was me, making 9 because he never told me about privileges and how advisors worked
Also some Italian elections are 11 years. Did a Ferrara game recently
Would like a modifier tier list
Maybe divide it into 3 parts for the admin dip and mil modifiers (through where they are in the ideas area of custom nation editor)
Also maybe consolidate ones so you dont have to rate manpower modifier and manpower in true faith provinces and manpower in accepted culture provinces etc etc
There are hundreds of modifiers, and combining them is a terrible idea. Manpower in True Faith and Accepted cultures play very differently: one requires a one faith, the other a one faith+ one culture for example to be effectively same for example. And the custom nation editor has like 10% of the modifiers in the game. This wiki article is out of date, but can help you comprehend the scope eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Modifier_list
We got loading screen tips tierlist before national ideas tier list 💀
Unironically tho, if you were to make a NI tier list, would you do 1 mega list or would you go 1 continent at a time then maybe make a last one comparing all the S tiers against each other?
National Ideas tier list would take a while, and well I named my price. My plan is not to make one in fairness.
13:18 F... you, Mr Lemon Cake. I have realized like 1000 hours in that I can open diplomacy screen, by right clicking a nation. And I am computer systems administrator by trade. S tier tip.
Maybe it was because of thousands of hours in EU1/EU2/FtG that this never occurred to me.
Damn fair
@@LemonCake101 To be fair, I still have a lot of old habits from EU2. Especially concerning stability. I know that loosing 1 stability is not that painful, but my immediate reaction on a stab hit event is Alt+F4, just because what a terror was loosing 1 stability in EU2.
Explaining this for people who did not play EU2: You could not core any provinces in EU2, so with each province that was not your core your stability cost went up. When you blob enough your stability cost became absurdly high: I could take like 3 years of having your stability slider on the max. In EU4 terms things as if for three years you would got 0 monarch points while having for the whole period negative income. So the EU2 strategy was to go as fast as possible for 3 stability and never ever let it go down unless absolutely necessary. And even 2500 hours in EU4 I still go for 3 stability much quicker then average player does. Old habits die hard.
I don't know about the trade power one, not only does it mean you can steal trade in multiplayer without going to war, but it also means you can steal value from trade nodes you don't control and don't want to conquer, such as a non colonial France game where you want to focus on Europe, or are busy taking the new world. This is especially true if you are playing the Netherlands and you have the special light ship which is just the best ship in the game, which you will build anyway.
I mean in an MP lobby if you steal someones trade they are going to war with you to stop you doing that. That's basically a great way of making enemies. As for something like a non-colonial France game that's all fine, but again that is basically a self imposed restriction where you don't expand into the colonies.
@@LemonCake101 As much as I agree with the MP argument, I was mainly referring to smaller games, but that's my bad as I don't really play big games. Although if you are in a strong position, people can't just declare war, especially if you make some actual allies(however rare that can be in MP)
As for the French game argument, again, I was misinterpreted, by colonial I meant actually colonising, of course you can just conquer colonies, but as a European France its not really a self imposed restriction as much as it is fighting a coalition every other year to stop a larger one from forming.
@@BolphesarusMaximusWardius issue with talking about those 'smaller' games they aren't really competitive enough to warrant a conversation. Issue is a chill game with mates is very different to a 'no AI left in 1475' lobby, but both fall under the 'MP' umbrella.
@@LemonCake101 I think not warranting a conversation is a strong phrase, the game is supposed to be played to have fun, however so. Focusing on just the competitive sphere cuts all that out. Its like comparing playing a sport for fun and professionally, its different yes, but it doesn't mean only one of those ways is wrong.
@@BolphesarusMaximusWardius well yes, but for a casual lobby there is no conversation: do what is fun. Since I am not ranking for fun, the only real way to maintain objectivity is to rank for objective 'what is best' otherwise its even more arbitrary.
Like it or not but this is peak EU4
Didn’t even open Eu4 for this one
I had a ridiculous 5 gigs worth of savegames, and I only started noticing when trying to open the save game menu started really slowing down.
For sure save games are a monster
@@LemonCake101 You can not reply to every comment you know? It will only leave you mental tired or burnout from doing it.
You can just reply to the comments 30 minutes after the video releases.
I don't know man, I feel tired from seeing you reply to every comment.
@@anirobrien7004 I have stopped recently in fairness, I still do read them. Yeah I addressed this in the 10k sub special, but yeah I peaked around 3 hours a day just on comment replies. Fun times!
centre of trade/esturary provinces tier list when
/j
That’s just a province tier list lite I feel
Eu4 unit type tier list
We making RUclips shorts with that one
Best flag tier list, although byz is gonna be S tier, we all know that ❤
Best Flag... too subjective is my fear
We need all provinces in alphabetic order + during all start dates tier list.
unit models tier list
19:20 is actually kind of important when you're doing half states and you forget you're doing half states and you take 2000 overextension and then theres actually 20 provinces getting turned into a full core and then your 6 month coring time is now actually 12 months and every single province with seperatists spawns rebels.
also its stupid that coring a province directly into a full state costs double the time. it just is stupid. no one can convince me otherwise.
Best idea soo far
Glad you enjoyed!
Autonomy doesnt decrease goods produced, only production efficiency, important for trade
It does decrease goods produced (well by hitting 0% production efficiency so in practice basically)
@@LemonCake101 not for trade tho, it is only half as bad for diplo dev than for tax dev
I definitely start to feel a twinge at 400% overextension.
4 hours session before you need to get food?
Rookie numbers.
Custom nation idea modifiers, split into admin, diplo and mil videos.
All the tips are supposed to be for new players. When I was a new player I didn’t read any of them. So I attempted the tutorial, and it’s broken so I got stuck and couldn’t get past something involving boats, I looked it up and it was a common bug that hasn’t ever been fixed. So I and I assume everyone, has to learn by doing
Had no idea about the shift-right click to disable notification😂
never knew i needed this video
trade ships ain't that bad tbh. taking over Lubeck military as England takes time and AE so you might put lights in the meantime and when you are done just move them to Baltic. There is always a trade node you want to have more trade power in and you can't be everywhere in a blink of an eye but your ships can. also you get naval traditions which means trade steering and a. lot of it at that and imo it's the best or the second best eco modifier you can get. and of course you can use them for naval warfare but they are just better cogs so kinda meh
3:20 Napoleon circa 1812
Lemon, You released your april fools vid two months late...
April Fools? This is peak Eu4 Content
Over 1K hours in and I never tried to right click on a province
Fair enough then!
Full tier list of every province when?
When you bribe me enough
Now *this* is epic
50:10 Waaaaaaaaaait... Does it mean that if I take faster fleet movement on my flag ship (which I almost always build exclusively for trade) it will give me more trade power why protecting? 🤔🤔
.. yes?
@@LemonCake101 I did not know that fleet speed influences trade value. I cannot also find any information about it in the Wiki. But this would also mean that if made trade fleet accidentally stumbles on a enemy ship and capture a galley its trade power should fall and I also never noticed that.
Watching till the end
Enjoy!
@@LemonCake101 Agreed with most of the picks, advisor tier list when??
@@a51raider I think quite a few people already made those
"This tip is somewhat helpful for new players, C tier"
"This tip provides pretty marginal ulility to anyone, C tier"
"This tip is pretty useless since you should know this from playing the game anyway... C tier"
Hey the last one escaped D since it was at least not useless inherently :P
28:30. But mil tech look really tempting....
Also war exhaustion goes down with defender of the faith and that one idea from innovative
Now just loading screens
Best video ever
Thanks!
Would be awesome if there was a mod that removes all tips that are C tier and below
Update patch name tier list please
Yeah, I'm not watching this. Just gonna have it in the background to listen to.
That's fair, if I was to guess the tier lists are 90% background sound anyway, I know I took care in this one to make sure I read everything out loud for those people
@@LemonCake101 many thanks sir
This is a genius idea
It worked surprisingly well as a video concept!
Someone should do this for Call of Duty death quotes.
Lemon Cake is way too harsh about light ship tips. Considering those tips are for the new players learning the game, they can't be expected to simply conquer as much land as they can instead of simply investing in light ships. For one, lightships don't cause aggressive expansion, overextension and don't cost monarch points to build. He also put "trade modifiers are in a trade tab" tip higher than tips about actual light ship and blockade mechanics
Everything you say about light ships is why EU4 and its trade system and the game overall is more poor and its gameplay and late game just come down to "blob more" and "blobbing is better than any other game mechanic to achieve any goal"... Sad really lookin at it now after 11 years and what this game could have became and when seeing where it ended up. Dance DR Jake and Johan and reddit/paradox forum/ twitch/YT/multiplayer balancing and dev direction...
Another thing about shortcuts doing BBX or BBC was very usefull for detaching smaller one or two regiment sieging units, well before someone made B the macro builder shortcut when no army is selected or when multiple armies are selected.
Well, I am not in charge of commenting on how the game got there, I can only comment on an objective reality, where blobbing is the way to go. I would rather not be in denial about it.
As for the shortcuts, that's fair!
@@LemonCake101 Off course, its just a sad objective reality. Hopefully EU5 will be better in that regard.
I like the light ships
W.
Also VSC hater smh
also consider control replace the
I do actually use vsc ironically enough I just thought Word would be funnier
It’s over hyper capable pc bros. Millions must load for 5 minutes while your mates tell you to hurry up and get in the game
Do the same thing but from the VU mod
Dawg
This kinda shit is what the internet was made for 😂😂
Light ships are super powerful, idk what this light ship hate is
Now rank all the EU4 provinces.
What the fuck is this video lmfao. Instant subscribe
A work of art (I had too much fun) and thanks!
@@LemonCake101 I will take your left ball
Really scraping the barrel huh?
We are running out of content 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
I have quite a todo list in fairness, I just thought this one would be fun :)
You really see here why they're making EU5
A lot of these used to be good advice. Attrition, for example, used to be horrific before they nerfed it into irrelevance.
I bet lemon cake 101 isn't even a tart
Please don't eat me regardless!
@@LemonCake101 😈
a lot of hate for inno here today
This would have been so much better in Excel...
I actually had it in excel initially but I thought Word would be funnier