What if GOKU Went SSJ EARLY? (Part 2)
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- Faced with the death of his best friend, Goku feels a strange new anger within him, causing him to transform into some powerful, unknown form. With Goku becoming a Super Saiyan this early on in the story, how will his massive power increase affect the arcs ahead? Let's discuss!
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I like the Reference to how Chi-Chi didn’t like The Color of Super Saiyan in the video at the part where Chi-Chi sees Goku transform into Super Saiyan and thinks he’s a Delinquent
The moment he said ''Makes him look like a delinquent'' I immediately heard TFS Chi-Chi go off on goku upon seeing gohan in SSJ xD
It's a funny reference to Japanese culture, apparently yellow hair signifies a delinquent or something like that.
@@warpstarrogue3554it’s also her dialogue in budokai tenkaichi 3 everytime she sees a super saiyan she says it 🤣🤣
Ugh. Don't Remind Me.😑
@@drakecamorra1202nah i thought about goten
With Gohan having more S-Cells here, I believe Gohan will be a case of Goten turning Super Saiyan. Enough training, easy trigger.
Goten was conceived when Goku was a Super Saiyan, so he had a better time accessing it. If Gohan trains as he did normally, then he'll probably get Super Saiyan between Namek and the Android saga.
@@williamcartertindale11 Agreed. It's just more of a shame that they didn't have Bulma or someone else like Gero delve deeper into the concept of S Cells, as it could have been good for later interpretations from fans
@@williamcartertindale11yeah he wouldn't be stronger but he would get ssj easier id say within the android arc in the training period cause remember gohan slacks on training unless someone is there to push him but i think goku would be a ssj2 by that time
@williamcartertindale11
Trunks was born with similar potential, and Vegeta wasn't ssj when trunks was made. So.
@@AgnesBooth-zu7tw it's more having to do with the amount of s cells which vegeta had more s cells when trunks was born as getting stronger is 1 methode of gaining more s cells.
I was just watching the first part!
4:17 S-cell counts in offspring are determined by the S-cell count in the parent which is determined by their Power and if they have a good nature so Gohan should have way more potential here. Not Goten and Trunks level potential but still higher potential nonetheless.
Ok so if goku had another kid in the current moment of super
Would the kid just skip super sayain 1 going directly to 2?
@@CERISTHEDEV Nah, considering how much potential Goten and Trunks have and how much stronger Goku has gotten past even his Battle of Gods self I’d say that it would be past even Super Saiyan 3, if there even is anything past 3.
gohan having even more potential? he needs it.
@@juicecakes not really, rn gohan is shown to be on par with broly, and stronger than goku and vegeta, and speaking of strange matchups, ssj goten and trunks are shown to hold their own against ultimate gohan
I don’t really think that’s been confirmed. It could be inferred, but it’s never been officially stated, at least not that I’m aware of.
We’ve only been told that hybrids some times can have ridiculous amounts of S Cells. But I think that Salad will go with your explanation (I’m just at minute 2).
He likes to make power levels hereditary. It’s his way of explaining why Goten and Trunks were almost equal to each other and far stronger than Gohan and future Trunks at the same age.
I'm half expecting Raditz to show up on Namek in search for the Dragon Balls, but I have no idea how he'd find out about the ones over there.
I don't think he even knows of Earth's Dragon Balls in this scenario.
@@AChimp196 Frieza would end up going to Namek eventually, and he would likely ordered the saiyans to participate in conquering Namek. Kami and Mr. Popo would probably tell the Z Fighters about Namek, to figure out Kami & Piccolo's origin.
@@nearthe2nd Good point.
This series has me hyped, looking forward to the rest of your take
I guess Goku going Super Saiyan wasn’t the only thing to happen early when it comes to this scenario
you need to remember a factor, that vegeta was in space and in the training time skip for the androids, vegeta probably banged bulma after he unlocked super saiyan, remember vegeta is the type of dude that will first try to finish his goal and then do another goal.
That would be crazy if Chi Chi didn’t want to marry Goku initially because he looked like a delinquent lol.
Damn I guess tomorrow came early
Facts I was so confused for a second
He probably didn’t have stuff to post today but he wanted to so he posted it earlier. Or the post was old and he timed it differently.
@@Comictale9001on The schedule post
It is today so the video was fine but the upload of telling us tommrow was off by a day
I just saw it lol
The possibility of Raditz surviving another whatif for once maybe???
Well he has no reason to die but if he dies then no one will care to revive him
@@KiraiKatsuji Just prayin to let my man's live to see another what-if ending tbh. 🙏🙏
@@PureCringe Me too
Yeah I need to survive
We always love to see Raditz surviving. That’s interesting due to how Goku breezing through the same saga. Because if that either Frizea might go to Earth or we might skip Frizea and go on to the android saga either way great video man can’t wait for the next one
What if Zamasu accidentally stole Kid Goku’s body?
It would give zamasu time to master Goku’s powers and grow stronger
Like the Masakox story.
Nah Goku was too weak @@joekauffman9690
Hes obviously not gonna train as hard as goku
What if broly was raised by the galactic patrol
KO oh man, Goku really wiped the floor with Radtiz so easily like he was fighting a child. But now this could set as a motivation for Vegeta to get stronger himself and wonder how is he going to do it? Can’t wait to find out more next time!
I'm guessing that Vegeta would most likely attempt to exploit Zenkai boosts, like how he did in the fight against Frieza on Namek.
@@michaelt8610 KO maybe he’ll also find a planet with stronger gravity to train on like in that What If Kakarot was in Vegeta’s Squad.
@@chaoscateriano7170 Vegeta loathed the idea of training all the way up until the Android Saga and even then he only trained in his own way, by himself until the Cell Saga. So Vegeta definitely won't find any random planet to train on and I doubt he'll use Zenkai boost exploits either, although if he does then it's definitely right before they leave.
The moon is still intact at this point
It was also the middle of the day
Dang it, no kid Goku learning he's a Saiyan! Oh well, this series is still interesting. Can't wait to see more.
HE POSTEC IT
Bro use proper grammer💀
I definitely think that Gohan would have had more S cells because Goku was stronger with super saiyan but only when Gohan would be olderin his teen years instead of kid years, the tail i agree with but i remember there being mention thay they did have tails but their mother's removed them
Thank you salad saiyan 🔥🫶🏽❤
what if gohan was reborn with all his powers part 27🤣🤣
He's a delinquent because his hair is blonde
-Chi Chicks
You forgot the part where if a Saiyan users the artificial moon there Powers get kut in have as stated by Vegeta in the Saiyan saga , so that means that goku in bass is stronger then Radizts in his great Ape form
Well, Chi-Chi wanted to marry Goku, so now she will have a family full of delinquents. 😆 Personally I would argue with much stronger Goku this his canon version and having access to SSJ as a kid it would affect Gohan either it makes Gohan's Latent Potential higher than normal, the SSJ trigger for him would be easier like Goten was, or a bit of both. 🤔 Also, I hope this means Goku and Piccolo will be training Gohan since the Saiyans could possibly come back maybe Gohan keeps his tail this time. 👍 Anyways another really good part, and looking forward to the next part soon.
Well S-Cells affect latent abilities as well as ease of transforming
I knew the Saiyan saga was gonna be easy for Goku but I didn't expect it to be that easy lol
Yay, Raditz survived! I was expecting him to try and use Goku against Vegeta and later Frieza, but it's interesting to see him go back to the Saiyan crew to regroup.
What if Nekomajin Z was canon?
What if the Namekian stayed on Earth after Frieza Saga?
What if Frost was good?
What if Goku & Chi-Chi swap race?
Are you going keep asking or give up soon
@@fredfazz67couldn't he just send his request to salad Saiyan's patreon?
@@maniacgreen8609 I think he's too poor
God you're so annoying, he doesn't see you lil bro
salad needs someone to beat cell prime so he doesn't accidentally pull a Gege with the saladverse XD
Cell Prime is pretty low tier compared to other Heroes and Xenoverse characters, that Fu is most likely his version and not the Xenoverse one otherwise that Fu would utterly curbstomp Cell Prime. He's probably using the same characters but just not having them on the insane level of Xenoverse or heroes. He may use Xeno Goku or CC Goku.
@@CerealExperimentsMizukihuh?
@@superzockertvyt9630 should I translate my comment into Spanish??
I have this theory that when a Saiyan turns super Saiyan, they have so many S-Cells, that their offspring are born without tails, simply because their potential and everything is so much higher. Whereas Gohan had a tail because Goku had a low power level which means low S-Cells. I hypothesize that the Oozaru transformation is a defense/survival trait, and is only required for Saiyans who have lower potential.
Also the Recessive trait makes no sense, because all offspring shouldn't have Oozaru tails when mixed with humans. Imagine it like the gene cube, his mother has 00 for the tail gene, Goku has 11, by all technicality Gohan would have 01, JUST like Goten and Trunks, it immediately debunks the Recessive Genes argument.
I'm imagining Raditz, Vegeta, and even Nappa manning up and joining the Z-Fighters, even if begrudgingly, in the hopes of eradicating Frieza and his empire. Not exactly "good guys", but moreso learning from the Earthlings who in turn all get motivated to be better warriors from the invading Saiyans.
Man I've been his since the early days of 25k I'm glad to see how far u have gone in these years keep it up u grown so far and got much further to go
god, nothing makes me more happy than seeing good what-if channels make fun of the awful, slop producing what-if channels.
you’re doing gods work, salad.
What if Raditz went super saiyan against Goku and Piccolo
this what-if is so gas ⛽️
Love it next it’ll be Goku and Piccolo training Gohan in the time chamber kinda like it was before the cell fight and Gohan at a much younger age getting super saiyan much earlier 😀 I can’t wait
I can’t wait to see vegetas reaction it’s probably gonna be just like on the what if goku went ssj against vegeta and Nappa
Sad to see Gohan not get much here, but the super Saiyan explanation was nice. Hope he does get to train tho
This is the starting to feel like the old salad Saiyan I love this version of the story so far ❤
What I hope happens in the next part:
-During the preparations for the Saiyan's, Gohan is kidnapped by the spice boys and thus dead zone happens with each of the z warriors getting a fight to test out the results of their training.
-Vegeta, Nappa, and Raditz are summoned to Frieza's throne world and he reveals that he's had a spy listening in on all of their transmissions. Know that he knows about Vegeta's treachery, Frieza proceeds to torture all three of them in th guise of training sessions. When they are shipped out to Earth, all three are well past 10,000 at base. Also to keep them in line, Zarbon and a battalion are also sent to see if Earth has anything of value.
I really am gonna have to impose the concept of Gohan having his own potential alongside Goten's S Cell count. That is just exactly how it's been written up to this point. I know a lot of people don't like that explanation, but this is more of a "you have to accept the truth of it" type of deal. That being said, I'd find it more interesting to see someone with Goten's potential throughout the earlier sagas. Great so far
Another scenario where Raditz gets to live, let’s gooooo
lol I wonder if he intentionally posted it early or not 😂
Please do what if Vegeta went SSJ against King Cold. (Future timeline) and
what if Vegeta and Piccolo trained together in the 7 year timeskip.
All your what ifs are about Goku.
Ah! I've been waiting for this!
Day 2: What if Goku turned Beast instead of SSJ against Frieza?
I don't care if this what if ain't possible, I won't give up!
Wait for next year's April fools
Awesome Super Saiyan Goku Video 💛💛
What if Future Vegeta Survived
What if Beerus woke up later
What if Salad was in Dragon Ball 2.0
Smugstick did a great video on what if Berrus woke up during GT.
I think the s-cells explanation is just an alternate version of the actual explanation as I've always seen it; potential difference, or essentially, voltage. The reason Vegeta had such a hard time tapping into Super Saiyan, even though he was so strong in base, was becuase his default mode was rage, irritation and arrogance. How is that going to act as a trigger for something when that's all you know? The further away you are from strife though, the more rage acts as a catalyst. The more peace you've seen in your life, and the more tranquil your lifestyle, the faster the current will travel when you do become enraged, or in the case of Goten/Trunks, even mildly angry.
I would suggest this 'motivation' for the Humans and Piccolo etc. To get stronger.
"Sure Goku is strong, but he can't be everywhere at once. We want to be strong enough to defend ourselves if that should happen, so we don't have to rely on Goku the whole time."
Thus the Humans all train on the lookout, but this time, with Piccolo too, and Goku going to King Kai's anyways. The Humans however, ALSO drink the Ultra Divine Water, (which Goku never drank) releasing their power a little, and letting them properly defend against threats like the Saiyans.
2:47 "stand proud piccolo, you're strong"
A 27 Part What if is outrageous!!!
Imagine raditz saying "its over 9000!"
Imagine a 50x power up back in og dragon ball. People would just faint from sensing his ki
well Raditz survived after all, didn't expect that honestly, but good for Raditz.
Krillin is just a key for goku power ups
Please GT or vegeta surviving future
5:25 salad really just pulled a kendrick
What Goten and Trunks were born with a tail?
The more people like the faster we get the new part, please homies lets go i need to hear more
Wow, with Super Saiyan's x50 multiplier on top of 10,000, that puts him at 500,000. That's almost first form Frieza's 530,000!
Heat. Happy to get it early
How do you become a member :( he doesn’t have anything available to join
Can you do how far legendary Godzilla would get in dragon ball
YES the Saiyans live!
What if kid Goku was found by Garlic jr. After the loss of grandpa gohan, goku finds "a friend" looking for the man who sealed his father away and needs the dragonballs to help in his quest.
Y'know, I read somewhere that if you train as a Super Saiyan your Super Saiyan form is the only one being trained and not your base
Well first Battle of DBZ againtst Raditz was really difrent mybe we can see Biker Raditz in this story but thet's me to say. But Vegeta was right it's if they not go To Earth now but sonner or later they will go and sadly Freiza to but knowing Goku he will be much stronger if Freiza gose on Earth. Waiting of part 3.😊😊👍👍
I assumed you would've had Piccolo Jr. try to rigorously train even before fighting Super Goku, since Goku severely outmatched King Piccolo. Not sure how he would've effectively trained though. But I think it would've been interesting if you had/have Piano survive the King Piccolo arc because King Piccolo went off on his own to kill Goku, only to die himself. No one killed Piano because no one knew about he existed. So he could raise and influence him to be more malicious as his Uncle. Young King Piccolo has a power level of 260 according to daizenshuu 7, Piccolo Jr. has canonically power of 408 before Raditz, and while the numbers of the Movie 6 Pamphlet are unreliable since they get power levels wrong, Piano was given a power level of 180, which is likely a highball estimation, but Piano, despite dying to being crushed by castle rubble canonically and not being a combat-type Mutant Namekian like his brothers, he would be a threat to most of the earthlings, including a majority of the fighters from the dragon ball era world martial arts tournament combatants.
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Get well soon, man🙏
Still waiting for what if goku had bardocks foreski-
His WHAT
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FINISH WHAT YOU GONNA SAY
love your videos
The simplest explanation for ssj bargain sale is, when u have examples are people can copy better than new accomplished theory… not to mention by training together with the one who achieved it
I hope you remember about the super Saiyan grades
Vegeta probably got Super Sayain while Trunks was being made
gohan probably will unlock super saiyan around frieza/namek saga, also
gohan probably will get a bigger increase in power, since this goku is stronger, so gohan probably will be born at the power of 50 or 40
Have you done a what if if Goku could only use magic?😅
I bet during the training, goku will try go beyond his current level and reach super saiyan grade 4 and possibly try teach gohan the form as well.
W post fr keep it up!
I think freeza will come to earth after hearing super saiyan from the scouters
I feel like Raditz being strong enough to force SSJ is a little bit of a high-ball. The Power Ball drains base strength significantly enough for this to be a mentioned drawback, so after clashing even just a couple times with someone over 6x stronger than he is, I feel like Raditz would be weak enough that Goku could just have a solid challenge of a fight in his Base but still come out on top. He should really only need to transform and end the fight if Raditz is actually about to land a serious wound, but I don't know if he could with the hit to his agility in Great Ape.
The cell saga for this what it is gonna be beautiful
The only bad thing of goku getting super saiyan early is that he won’t know about gravity training nor would he be able to get kaioken or the spirit bomb
But that probably won’t matter until super begins
yay best boy radditz lives.
Holy sh 500,000 against raditz?! Great ape vegeta will be a cake walk!
Saiyan's "S-Cells" reminds me of "midichlorians" in Star Wars 🤔
Maybe this time around Goku would tell the other Z fighters about the room of spirit and time. Would help them get a major boost in power.
If Goku still had his tail intact he might have got Wrathful Super Saiyan “SSJ4” way earlier on in this What-if
trunks and goten could be explained to have more power due to having a more powerfull goku and vegeta raising them, so they grew faster because when they did train with their dads/gohan their power grew much faster, same could be said of super saiyan knowing about it and knowing other saiyans who can transorm probably made it significantly easier to learn
I'm interested in seeing how strong the Androids are going to be here. Or maybe they could be destroyed when Goku first transformed into a super Saiyan. Either way, it's going to be fun
7:40 in the manga vegeta tells goku that only elite sayians can produce an artificial moon and knowing the level of raditz i don't think that's possible with him
So, we really arent getting this video today?
I think super sayian 4 is coming…😮
Would have been neat for him to keep his tail...maybe kami would think that the tail is related to super sayian
So will goten and trunks(if born) have even more s cells
Speaking of the gohan being reborn with all his powers can you please do it lol
Goku and piccolo do training with King Kai while Gohan and the z fighters do training on kami's lookout as well as drink the ultra Divine water and go into the time chamber for at least one month in the time chamber
We love a Salad Saiyan Tangent™
Saladdd, I feel like you’re skimping out on us. This so shorttt
Still, so goood 😁
The more S cells you have the easier u can unlock the tingly sensation in their backs
Can you make goku go ssj 3 wrathful kaioken dragon fist please
With Goku have super saiyan, I wonder if Piccolo might train with King Kai before the saiyans show up again.
Pls keep it up
There's the next video idea, "WhAt If GoHaN wAs BoRn A sUpEr SaIyAn" 😂