How to Fish a Dry Fly on Spinning Gear - St. Joe River Trout Fishing
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2019
- During a recent fishing trip on the St. Joe River in Idaho the fish were not cooperating with my lures. I made a switch to fishing a dry fly on spinning gear and it helped. In this Trout Fishing tip I go over a long used tactic of fishing dry flies on spinning gear. This was an effective method I used to catch some finicky Cutthroat Trout on the St. Joe River in Northern Idaho recently, where they were activity feeding on topwater insects and avoiding some of my conventional spinning lures.
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Nicely done! I find myself doing something similar over here in Western Montana (hit me up if you end up this way, would love to join you on a fishing adventure!). I haven't used that bubble float bobber, but I have used the weighted bright colored bobbers that has a spring loaded hook at each end. They do work pretty well overall, but I find that their bright colors seem to attract more fish than the flies at times, LOL. I also see where you mention that near the end of your video... I've had A LOT of hits on my bobber in rivers, lakes and ponds when fishing flies this way.
I find myself using the Trout Magnet floats more though since I have a bunch of them, adding a couple of tiny weights if I need more casting distance, keeping them close to the float to prevent the fly from sinking. I do find a struggle with smaller flies where you really benefit from a fly setup, which has made me dig mine out of storage (I'd committed to going spinner cast only for a couple of years). Gink is the way to go to keep dry flies floating too! Glad to see you using it as well.
Thanks for the quick video. Hope you enjoyed your time up this way.
Gotta have the gink. I'll have to look into some other float options. I thought it was pretty funny that they were hitting the bubble.
I love it up your way man, great scenery and few people. Hard to beat that!
@@Outwestwithchris1 Awesome man..what kind of scent are you using at 3:20?
@@Outwestwithchris1 dude just put a bb slipshot and a fly i catch trout all day like that
Love watching an outdoorsman "catch and release, even if dropped from 6 ft. and bounced off boulders, not to mention unclear "directions" or names for product 😂 great content...
And grabbed it with his dry hand.....!
This is how my dad taught me to fish for rainbow trout in the early 90s.
I never see anyone doing it anymore
Still works pretty good!
I broke my fishing quantity record today using this exact setup. I had a blast.
I kinda glossed through this the other day and Havnt been out in about 13 years but this morning I made some good 18-20 ft casts on my 6’8” spinning setup with a tiny tiny dry fly ! Lol I still got it!!! Got half a dozen nice little brook trout and a chub or two lol
that's awesome man!
I hate you for that. I go out at least once a week and I can't tell you how many countless videos and lectures I've watched and listened to and how many hundreds of dollars I've spent on lures and bait alone.. Yet I have yet to catch a single freaking fish. I have gone to every area I have learned to look for fish and I try every technique and lure I can and try to match the fry as well and still nothing. I'm seriously so discouraged now. I've had better luck with turtles if anything and I obviously let them go.
I was jk about hating you btw!
@@CuttySobz just keep going to new areas and keep an open mind and really try to get out of your comfort zone and experiment . Really it’s whatever works for you. I can double haul like 80 foot now but I don’t always catch fish when I go out with my fly rod
Yep. Love and have fished the Joe many times. Nice instructional. Underrated river.
Yeah man, I love that river! Thanks for watching!
Thank you for your video. As a boy scout we fished the Beartooth lakes with bobbers and flies. It was a great technique, loads of fun, and kept us in fish for meals the whole while. I always knew it would work on streams too. Thanks for sharing this. I had already bought my tackle to try it. Time to get out onto Rock creek just down from Red Lodge Mt. and go to work.
Yeah it's an old school method, can be very effective. Have fun!
Grew up on that river, miss it greatly
Gonna try this to catch saltwater speckled trout! My usual pier has been slow recently but I’ve been seeing big trout come up for little white moths! And that bobber is so easy looking , can’t wait to try it 👍
Very informative... This is going to give me something to do while my buddies chase elk in southwestern Colorado. Thanks
Boy, is that river clear! Beautiful place to fish.
Thanks for the tip. Enjoyed it. :)
It's one of my favorite places in the world. Been going there since I was about 12 years old
Shout out from Coeur d'Alene! Love fishing the St. Joe. Thanks for the tips man! Got yourself a new subscriber!
Awesome, thanks for watching!
Thank you. I have never used a fly rod. So I needed some tips for fly set up. This helped
Glad it helped!
Hey Chris really enjoy your hunting and fishing videos thanks
Thanks for watching them Carin, and for the feedback!
What a beautiful spot. Thanks for this
Thank you so much. such a great help for new fisher like me.
Beautiful location! I haven't bubble-fished flies (successfully, for trout) since I was a boy. I need to try again this season, on both the Ogden and Weber rivers.
We have a huge trout fishery in Columbia SC. I'm gonna give this a try. Thanks!
Great video Chris - I know you have told me about this before but I finally got around to watching the video :D
Seriously though, that area is freaking gorgeous. Reminds me of when I went to the Missoula, MT last March. I love the west man - I need to get back.
Yeah man, such a gorgeous area! Let me know if you try this out! Cheers!
Great video! Just ordered two of them. Worth a try!
Thanks. As a spinner reel fisherman trying to learn fly techniques, I have been out there with all my gear only to be stumped by trout surfacing on naturals all around me wanting nothing to do with worms, spinners, or stickbaits
Awesome tip. Really good to know
Glad it helped, thanks for watching bro!
Been doing the same since I was a kid here in Nevada. Great video.
Clear bobber wooly worm mid water
Thank you for the video. I never tried that but, this summer i will.
Cool !!!
People don't know that!!! 😊
I love Idaho I've cought thousands of trout there on the fly!!!
Used to go out evary year fishing the west from Mass. 22 times!
Been flyfishing and tying 56 years now!!! ✌️
Teach a purson !!!
TU.
Excellent information!! I've tried it a few times but I was using a stopper knot instead of the adjustabubble. I gotta try it like that! Nice fish. Sub from me!
The intro is flipping sick.
Thanks brother!
awsome! I was not looking forward to learing with a fully rod lol. great video 👍
Glad it helped!
I have been in the same boat thanks for this video!!!!
Shoutout from Boise! Sweet video man.
It's been awhile since I visited Boise but I really like that town, nice river flowing through there too! Cheers.
what a beautiful looking river
It's a special place for sure. Thanks for watching!
Grew up in the 70s over there. My Grandparents lived in Missoula and then moved to couerdlane. We used a clear bobber similar to that with a split ring and then a lead line for the fly. the clear bobber was filled with water and the line went through the slide tube similar to yours. I taught my children to fish this way even though we live in Iowa now. two days ago me and my daughter (23) were fishing our local lake ( pond really) and were killing it. think i caught over 10 fish, mostly pan fish but one walleye, in less than an hour. my first cast caught a fish. other people on the shore were like, what????
im from northern ireland, we use a "bombarda" float for sea-trout (sea-run browns) its similar kinda set up with the fly or small micro lures
Good stuff. Got yourself another subscriber. Cheers
Nice, I wondered about that. Once in a great while would like to fly fish but not enough to invest in the tackle and learn the technique. Not to mention where i live there is not a lot of trout streams.
love your vidio was very helpful
Great video! Thank you brotha. God bless!
great vid. Thanks!
Iv always wondered how yo fish a fly on a spinning rod.. Definitely going to try this trick out soon on my next fishing trip thanks
Glad it helped! It's a good option to have.
Same. Last time I went trout fishing, I was doing pretty good with a spinner, but they were rising everywhere! This vid was very helpful!
@@05c4r6 glad it helped!
All I use for 30+ years, but with the smallest clear, sliding bubble available with a Carolina Keeper 3 ft from fly. One knot and 4lb or less test. In lakes, they'll hit the bubble immediately after casts often returning to grab the fly.
Exactly the video I was looking for. As soon as we come off the lockdown I’ll be in the eastern Sierras with my spinning rig using lures, and now I’ll be putting flies on the same rig. Carrying two rigs when backpacking isn’t convenient. . Thanks.
Glad it was helpful and hopefully you can get out there sooner rather than later. Tight lines!
I use a sealed torpedo bobber with eyes on each end. That way you can add a swivel so the line doesn't twist. And a net so you don't touch the fish with your dry hands. 55 years ago.
Just went got some bobbers an flies. Gonna try it tomorrow great info.
How did it go?
@@Outwestwithchris1 it snowed here 4 days in a row. North East Kingdom vt. No good chance yet, went with crawlers, no luck. Lol
Dang, yeah I've heard it's been a little chilly up there. Hang in there, it will warm up!
Awesome !!!!!
Thanks!
❤wow, easier than using my Fly Rod!
I fish for salmon in BC like this . Works a charm. Add split shots if you want depth
Awesome!! I've always wanted to try this. Is your leader mono or fluoro? Thank you!
Works great on high sierra mountains lakes when the tress and brush are thick and you can not back cast.
Oh yeah man, I can see this setup working great on those situations. And being able to fill the bubble up with water for a longer cast is nice in that situation as well.
Trout love to see the fly above the water. Adult females lay their eggs on the water's surface, and trout watch, as they approach. If you learn to fly cast a dry fly with just monofilament, it will allow you to give some action to the fly. You only get about 15' max casting distance, but, you'll do well at the 8' to 12'-range. Let gravity and the breeze carry the dry fly, then make the fly have the smallest movements on the water surface. I've had fish bite a fly several inches above the water, it is quite exciting.
My first experience catching trout was a 5.5' spin-set-up, dry fly, probably 8lb monofilament. It gives you tons of control to, roll-cast (spey-ish,) and it is very nice for a bow-cast (short rod). If you use a tippet, you will have more ability to turn-over your loop. All the technical trout fly fishing can be done up close, some of it can be done at a distance. The pocket-water gives the angler some cover from the fish. Getting around using fly line isn't that much of an issue, when you are basically casting about 3' of it and a long leader.
Stick to flies that have a tuft of calf-hair for a wing. The calf-hair is very easy for the angler to see, and they float fine in choppy water. Anything with lots of wrapped hackle is a favorite for free-stone streams where flies tend to sink.
Great video! Just had a question, what are good ways to jig or work the fly?
Great info- what pattern works good for you?
I have one of those bobber, but I had no idea you could twist the end, in order to lock it in the line. Las time I used mine, I used a swivel and a bead as a stop for the bobber.
Yeah it's pretty slick, no knots and doesn't kink the line either. Thanks for watching!
A good idea but it'll be hard to manage drag on your dry. 👍🏻
This was amazing! Growing up in southwest Michigan my dad taught me this technique and it’s now a “staple” technique I use now residing in NC fishing bluegills here...I love your scenery! Beautiful! Beautiful catches! Awesome technique tutorial! I am also new to your channel! BABAAM!!
Awesome! Yeah this technique will slay on the panfish. It's such a versatile tool for the tool box. Thanks for watching!
What kind of line do you have on this? I'm in Ohio, and was fishing a small trib creek which is like less then half the width of what you were fishing and is really really shallow. I was float fishing and trying to use spinners in the only deep spots... the fish weren't interested in my jigs or spinners/spoons at all but the fly fisherman were SLAYING! I need to try this!
I was having issues with line twist with this method so I now put a swivel behind it [like a slip sinker] and I may have solved this issue.
Killed it on streams with this method but the deeper swifter parts of the Snake River I have struggled. I think they like to see the fly bouncing up and down on the water for my deep pocket spots I usually bottom fish from. I don't own a fly rod and am not trained in it. Wish I was. Sometimes they are only feeding from the top, and I want to get those suckers.
My father taught me this trick when I was very young. It’s part of the reason I never took up fly fishing. What is the stuff you are putting on the flies?
Hey Shawn, that's floatant. It helps the fly float after getting water logged or going through riffles.
Gink
I like the video to give me an idea. Curious, what weight line do you suggest and what was the set up? Light weight rod, light action rod, curious, and thanks again
WHHHHHHAAAAAT CANT WAIT TO SEE THIS
Let me know what you think after you watch!
@@Outwestwithchris1 mind blowing gonna go get me some of those and some dry flys for when they stockthe pond by me
@@dluffmcgrufflovestostuffmu4606 sweet! Go slay em!
@@Outwestwithchris1 thanks for putting this out there one day I'll get in to fly fishing but for now I'm going to try this lol
@@dluffmcgrufflovestostuffmu4606 it's a good place to start... Save some money and do this. Lol
Great vid, are you using monofilment or flurocarbon leader?
Put an indicator on b4 bobber...also works well with crappie jigs spinners etc.
I tried dry flies on the spinning rod and i ended up catching ten times the trout i used to manage on spinners.
I use a cylindrical wooden plug with tapered edges with punctures on both ends as a weight to cast my flies. However, the thin mono leader ends up getting entangled with the main line almost every time i cast. Is there a way to get rid of this issue ?
Any suggestions would be really helpful.
Thanks for the lovely video.
Cheers !
Thank you for posting, can you tell me? If you are in a "fly fishing only" section of water, is the "fly and bubble" legal?
Great video but I have a question should the bobber be the other way around thick end towards the rod ??
WOW beautiful place!! is that 1 of the main rivers or smaller ones? which 1 is it?
Would a neon yellow float work as well? Or does the float need to be clear? I have some nice floaters already but they're bright lol
I was watching this video and I thought the only thing that could make this better was to apply it on a Baitrunner.
I have a Daiwa Emcast with 6lb mono ima try this with , let my bobber go with the Baitrunner feature … and as soon as I see a strike start reeling and hook it, instead of having to close the bail and potentially lose a fish
I'm trying a 3 ft piece of poly chord instead of a bobber. In line fly line
Your pole sounds strained... good vid
Do regular floats work? I've also seen a video somewhere where a person used a floated minnow type bait, like a Rapala, and took the hooks off to do basically the same thing by tying a leader to the rear hook eye.
Do you use any rod action when using that technique.
Beauty
Bungee Bubbles from Hagen's work well too. Used the mediums on high mountain lakes and the smalls on rivers and streams.
Awesome, I'll take a look!
Great video. Are you using braid, to a leader, to tippett? Or just braid to a leader. Thanks.
Just braid to leader this time out.
During hatches, are Rooster Tails or similar productive at all?
Do you have to use clear water bobbers, or does any streamlined float work?
I use the same bobber they many appacations use them for crappie fishing also !!!!!!
I noticed you are using braid. Is you trace fluorocarbon? If not, it seems like at least on a sunny day that would be much more effective in such clear water.
do you think a medium spinning rod (shakespeare beta 20-80g) would be good for brown trout? i would fish a small mepps behind a bubble float with a long 5lb leader
What kind of line are you using and are you using a leader with it ?
Take that rig and hook a fat summer hopper with that fly. Hook him through the back gently through the exoskeleton where it meets the lower part of the hopper and he should float and kick around for 5+ minutes. Big trout can't resist.
Great info. I'm struggling with casting far on Joe's flies...can you share what your test line was and rod length? I'm using a medium 6'6 with I 🤔 6 or 8lb test
put a bobber on it either what he has in the video or those small trout magnet bobbers, if I'm fishing un weighted flies then ill usually put a small splitshot not to far from the fly itself and that helps with casting and getting the fly down quicker
also, hitting the bobber is a common acurence, thats when you put a rappala on your line.
What size rod line and reel are you using for that set up
I have a question, if I use a normal bobber will this still work.
That works for small mouth in the winter we call it the float'n Fly
Do you usually use a hair jig under the float? That's how I've always heard it fished. I've never fished a floatn fly for bass but I've read about it a bit. Hope you are feeling better brother!
Out West with Chris yeah but there are other things you can use to. Small plastics and even gulp minnows.
@@BassGeek I've been thinking about that actually.
what type of line are you using? Mono? What lb test?
you dont need to use that fly floating crap on your fly, just squeeze the watr out of the fly and blow on it. been fishing this way for 30 years in southern oregon, works great
Do you have to use it with that exact bobber
Put a fly on a leaf, let line out slowly till we're you want to be. Stop line, fly will fall off leaf. Can get to some good spots that way.
Do you use just regular fish line or do you need something special?
So he said sainting about tapered leader is he using fly line leader??
Will the fly still float on the surface
I'm gonna have to order some of those floats. I cant use a fly rod to save my life
What type of line are you using.
Man I wanted to bass fish during trout season and now it’s bass season and I want to fish for trout but all the trout in my lake died off from heat
A good technique. My youngest son has done well like this. You put the bobber on upside down and put just a dab of that Gink on your fingers,then the fly. It will float better that way. Peace
Thanks for watching.
What’s that stuff you put on it
Any reason the bobber went on upside down?