2023’s Most Innovative Sim Racing Equipment | ADAC Sim Racing Expo
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- Опубликовано: 4 дек 2022
- What will be the best sim racing gear in 2023? We visited the ADAC SimRacing Expo in Germany to find out. Let us know in the comments below your most anticipated.
Amongst all the various new equipment we tried - cockpits, seats, steering wheels, pedals and motion platforms - these were the five most interesting and different products.
Several further items were unveiled at the event, and we have more information about those on our website, but there were the items that really stood out to us as pushing the market forward, trying something different or unique.
The virtual racing items covered here are:
Simucube Active Pedal
Asetek SimSports Invicta wheel base, quick release, ABS and upgrade path
Trak Racer TRX cockpit, plus base shaker and prototype wheels
Ascher Racing McLaren Artura GT4 wheel
VENYM Black Widow Carbon Fibre pedals
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What sim racing equipment are you most looking forward to in 2023? Let us know in the comments below!
looking forward to anything new from alpha magic, moza, and fanatec.
I really think simucubes active pedals are a game changer however at that price I don’t think a lot of people will be able to justify them. If we ever see a “budget” as in less than $1200 for three pedals, I think it would change the sim world
@@jdified8815 i think it'll probably take 2-3 years til we hit that point to lol.
I saw the ventilated cold fusion seat by O-Rouge was there too, wish it was included in this recap many fat sweaty bastards out there that would like the luxury :D
@@jdified8815 I doubt it will ever hit that price point, cost of materials is far too high.
Great production quality on the video! Nice to see this level of content about sim racing!
Thank you!
Ascher absolutely nailed it with McLaren rims. They felt far best from all brands out there hand down. Now the question is do I need the screen version or not? 🙂
Always fun to hear danlish from Asetek
Great news to see brands want their rims & DD units to work with products from other brands.
Makes simracimg way more comfi. Buying into 1 eco system felt weird to back in day and it stll does.
Trak Racer is really nailing it. One huge thing they need to look at is what Monstertec is doing with being able to easily swap from racing to flight and then space sim ect. TR offer so many accessories for their 80/20 rigs that it might be possible but they need a video demonstrating how to do so. I think I speak for most people when I say that if I invest 1k in a rig, 1-2 k in triples and or VR, 1-2k in wheel and pedals, 1-2k in flight, then 2k on a PC I want to be able to play everything from my huge investment.
Same here, equipment to quickly flip from race to space would have me very happily buying more parts.
Race->Flight->Work would make me even happier.
@@jdshkolnik yeah but I work from home so when I am off work I want to move to a different location in my house.
@@jdshkolnik It's a much better experience for both work and race to separate those setups. You can't expect Trak Racer to hit that target market as well. That would be an incredible feat, because I can't see my sim rig sharing any sort of components with my work setup.
They have absolutely abysmal customer service though. Countless forums are filled with numerous awful experiences.
Sad didn't see any motion rigs. Have DOF Reality P3 now and love it. Really helps with complete immersion.
wow these look cool, can't wait to sell my car for them
I believe those FFB pedals are gonna be the next big thing. Even just for cruising on the highway. Can't wait for Fanatec to release a set for ~$700 in 3-4 years.
Asetek equipment is super exciting!
That La Prima bundle looks like a really good deal.
Great coverage of the event.
Been sim racing for a long time and haven’t heard of or seen a video by Traxion and you have your own mic flags, very nice! I produce and edit TV sports for a living and it’s nice to see pro quality video from sim racing expo so well done to you and your cameraperson, etc. Just subscribed and looking forward to more content. Clever name btw, though maybe Tracktion or Tracksion :)
Thank you for the kind words! We appreciate it.
Asetek is coming out with some heat, look how many products they've put out and it's a amazing they were open up the wheel options to other manufacturers. I really interested in the trak racer pedals but there's not much info out
Next year looks to be huge for sim racing, cant wait for some of these products to hit the market next. Who needs two kidneys anyway lol
The same thing is said every year. Have you signed up for the gym and started your spring cleaning?
Big question for ya…are any of the things shown in this clip for consoles ie: ps5 or just Pc?
Nice reporting there Thomas!
the TRX being developed with alpine is very interesting! would like to see something like that with other cockpits.
The next level racing fgt elite is a much better version of that cockpit, its also aluminum profile, stiffer and has way more adjustability and accessories
@@Sideways_Singh The TRX hasn't been tested yet, so you have no evidence the F-GT Elite is stiffer. From what I've seen so far, the TRX also seems more easily adjustable.
@@StevePhoenix i do have proof because its aluminum profile and this isnt, I'm guessing ur new to sim racing and dont know what that means, its physically impossible for this to be stiffer because the fgt elite has no flex to begin with. The trx is more easily adjustable but that always means ur sacrificing rigidity, but well see maybe its stiff enough, either way I wouldnt get it, because its not nearly as adjustable and doesnt have nearly as much accessories.
@@Sideways_Singh but the realism of it being developed with alpine is something i would like to see happen with other companies
@@Sideways_Singh You assume way too much, buddy. I'm by no means new to sim racing or aluminium profiles. It's not physically impossible to match or exceed the strength of aluminium profile and there are steel tube rigs that have matched the rigidity of the stiffest aluminium cockpits (all reviews I've seen of the RSeat P2 suggest it's as stiff as a Sim-Lab P-1X, without any discernible flex). Plus, aluminium prices have been skyrocketing in the last 5 years and there's a good chance aluminium profile rigs will become far too expensive in the near future.
That being said, you might be right about the lack of accessories, although Next Level Racing's accessories list is extremely short, too.
Let’s use carbon fibre to make our sim rig lighter 👌
I'm still waiting for something as good as the force-feedback for braking/acceleration provided via the Microsoft Sidewinder and Viper Racing (1995). To date that is the most realistic feedback I've seen and surprising that over 20 years later they still haven't come close (and I currently run a high end Fanatec setup).
how cool is all of it. maybe one day
Man it's my dream to have a great simracing cockpit
you could show the cockpit of the ResTech. it's very beautiful
Thanks for the video! How does the Asetek steering wheel feel in terms of quality? And is the backplate carbon or plastic?
Not sure about the backplate, sorry - we'll find out more in an upcoming full review in the new year. As for the rim quality, it's better than it looks in pictures, but not the best out there, no doubt. Handily, there will be a slew of third party brands offering its quick release too
I feel like the accelerator ffb I think has a lot of potential so you can feel the motor under load like a real car a lot better.
I wish Simcube, would lower their prices in Australia, to more like Simagic prices!
Then more people could afford a good sim set up.
For $6,000 you got to be crazy to pay this much for Simucube Active Pedal.
Seems like they are trying to recover all of the R&D cost with the first set of pedals they sell.
I'm looking forward to more affordable DD bases. I'm still on a Thrustmaster TX but looking to upgrade in 2023. Don't need 20+ NM, but something around 10-15 would be perfect if the price is right.
Take a look at the Simagic Alpha (Mini) with 15 (10) Nm for roughly 1200 (1000) EUR, wheel included.
Hannu Harju very cool guy greetung from Finland🇫🇮
Makes my G27 look top of the line
I'm gonna wait until a diy kit pops up on the pedals.
I kinda need my organs, and I ain't selling 'em!
😂
They need to hold one of these in California, so many ppl would come.
Your wish may just be granted. All in good time 😊
I'm glad Trak Racer are taking the time to get the TRX right, but I wish they would at least tell us more about what's going on. I have a preorder and they don't give us any info on when it'll be here, what's holding things up. Even just a "hey we are waiting on these bolts" or a "we are getting them to the warehouses now but having trouble finding trucking" or something would be fantastic. I ask on their website chat when it's coming and just get an automated response saying December. No word on when in December... guess it's late December at this point. Can't even get a real person to respond. I'm still excited about the rig, but this delay with no updates feels like a bad Kickstarter project.
Now we are back to February smh
a few yrs from now, top quality sim racing gear and setup will surely cost more than say, a decent family audi 😆
I am trying to find a Logitech g29 wheel mod. Everyone is sold out I can not find one anywhere
Can’t wait to buy this stuff used on ebay in like a decade 😂
Is he one of the Ramone brothers?
we cant mimic without gforces, no matter which way we spin it whenit comes to sim brakes for example. love the trak racer pods
What’s the point in CF pedals ?! There’s no weight to be save in SIM Racing….lol
Carbon Fibre is also incredibly strong so you have the reliability there too.
Pure gimmick.
Vista taking stray shots 😅
Maybe fanatec will bring a real customer service team into 2023 with them.
the only innovation on sight here are those simucube pedals, and while i'm sure that brake feels good, i still cant decide if the funniest thing about them is the price or their footprint on the rig lmao. asetek solution for abs feedback is interesting but their gear while competitively priced and spec'd, looks like its made out of 90's chinese toys plastic
Money can't buy happiness they said.
Trak Racer is too bulky not easy to move around… I own one and totally regret purchasing it…
As much as I like the idea of ff pedals I'm not a fan of that price point.
Oh the English(Danish) from Asetek 🤣🇩🇰🤣🇩🇰🤣
Much love from the Coooold Denmark 🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰
6k euro pedals? tf did i just watch?
Something not for 1 000 000$?🤔
Full ABS system… to simulate the real driving of a race car.
Kindly be informed that most of the race cars doesn’t have neither ABS system, nor traction control system. Now on WRC, not even central differential…
But yes… full ABS system.
honestly what bugs me lots is the mentality of the companys. all the new good stuff is at a pricerange not feasable for most of simracers. i would like to see more brands jump into entry to midrange pricing and deliver some innovative and !Costeffective! Solutions. Carbon fibre on a home pedal is such a waste of money if you consider they could spent the development expenses on a propper midrange pedal with good materials, a feasably production strategy and some adjustability and loadcell.
same for all the highend tech. i cant understand why there are no cheap pedals with oil systems. you cant tell me i have to spent 1k for a hydraulic cylinder with a pressure sensor wich is a few dollars on some propper casted pedals. if you wanted you surely could produce such a thing for under 500 with good profit. but for some reason the "more advanced" tech always comes with premium (and costineffective) materials and manufacturing processes....
i dont care how my pedals look. i care how they work and what they cost.
If you specifically talk about Venym, they also make the same pedal in aluminum that compete with the 1000+€ sets but for the same price as the HE Sprint
So yeah the Carbon ones are expensives but that's their top of the line offering and all the medias will only cover those in order to generate more clicks
@@hugovasseur1392 i just researched and Najam Simtec is exactly what i missed for so long. Function over Form adjustable Loadcell Pedals for 170. I just wish more companies had this midnset. Venyms other offers sound good tho. Sure high End Sector is viable aswell but i just feel entry and mid level are underrepresented.
@@thereverent117 I agree, using carbon fibre to me is so stupid, we have no need for weight reduction, using aluminium or steel is all we need. Whay bugs me is the price of steering wheels, even cheap plastic thrustmaster or fanatec wheels are so expensive for what they are. 50 bucks of material at the most sold for 2/300+, and it's not like r&d is that relevant.
I'll have a look at the najam's, I'd rather spend money on someone else than fanatec and their 300% mark up stamped sheet metal pedals, thanks.
Two things sell in crisis: Entry level and luxury. Since the numbers sold favor the latter, that’s what you see hitting the market.
yeah but 2500 for 1 peddal seems very greedy
It's a VERY expensive set of pedals. Curious if they're worth the pricetag though
You can say greed all you like, but the fact, is, these are extremely expensive to produce, I guarantee you half of that price has only covered raw materials and machining.
@@damiendegrasse i dont believe that, i think they could sell them for 1500-1600 per peddal and still make a good profit and more people would buy them. but we will see how the competition will be making similar peddals in the future
this is just V1 / early adopter edition. If you remember Granite devices did something similar with SC1 and then refined the offerings for SC2 with the lessons learned. I think these will be the ones to buy when theyre in V2 and youre looking to move up from your Heusy Sprints or your Fanatec inverted v3445566 or whatever ;)
They say there is never a dumb idea. So maybe my following statement is wrong:
When you do sim racing, you see some of the most innovative and some of the most dumb ideas.
I vomit every time I see a million billion zillion wheel rims with prices that are inflated a million billion zillion times. I am a car enthusiast yet I've never been passionate about quick release and wheel rims a million billion zillion times more than I have always been passionate about all other details in cars and driving. I know there are people who have 20 different ridiculously expensive carbon fiber Al Cantara A-RGB wheels with a fancy diamond beneath the screen in the middle of the rim that they use on their modded Logitech G25!!! WTF????
While,
I feel sad when I know that the companies which started to make wind sims, g force seats, tension seat belts, haptic feedback, suspension actuators, traction loss and full motion sims are closing/ going out of business and going bankrupt due to lack of interest and low sales.
There is no dump idea, and even if the 1k€ pedals felt ridiculous, useless and expensive to me. The dump idea is that idea that is popular today among sim racers, which is being fixated to only one idea, which is collecting as much rims as they can while they didn't prioritize any other kind of feedback using the same money spent.
40 nm lol
POWERRRR
Sorry but 7000 euro for a 3 pedal set from Simucube is way too much. 700 to 1200 should be the highest premium mark. This is only for professional use and the insanely rich at this point.
7000 is obviously madness, but I bet most will be looking at a single pedal. I have no professional use case nor am I insanely rich but If I let go of some of the collection of stuff in my house and find another $1000 on top, I could just about afford one.
I vehemently disagree that the " highest premium mark" should be 700 to 1200, the range of products should be as wide as the market will support, like in automotive.
@@damiendegrasse I don't know what good one pedal is going to do though. I have clubsport pedals and I can hardly cut them up. So it is either all or nothing, otherwise you just have a brake and you won't move the car at all... or a throttle and you will fly into oblivion. 😅
Don’t Fanatec have something similar with the V3 pedals? I know they are just motors but still.
@@ags911 Not comparable. The Clubsport pedals always had a rumble motor on the brake and the V3 also put one on the throttle. The Simucube pedals provide motorized resistance and throw adjustment on the fly including force feedback movement rather than just a bit of rumble. It makes them into a completely different league, but the price is a bit excessive for most sim races. Just like how Leo Bodnar his direct drive was 10 years ago. So here is to hoping that in 10 years time this tech becomes affordable.
@@LogiForce86 I understand now, it’s much better to get the V3 if you aren’t stupidly rich then lol
this is stupid for Asetek, is selfish... they want to upgrade competitors wheels to Asetek eco system, but dont alowed for anothers to upgrade their hardware to eco system, like simucube
online game racing will never be the same as driving the real thing
What kind of drinks does the drink button on the McLaren wheel serve?? 🥤🍹🍾🥛🧉🍸🍼🚰🍷🏺🍺🥴