I’m about to sign an option 40 with 13F MOS. I got a buddy in 3rd batt whose doing it and loves it. Can’t wait for the challenge of pushing through training, and for the responsibility that comes with the job!
I loved how you guys explained the differences between an 11B and a 13F. I never heard it explained the way you two did and so far it’s the best that I have come across. You guys actually describe perfectly the different job knowledge/experiences between 13Fs in conventional and SOF Army, and some of the issues we saw coming down the pipe when 13Fs were moved back from the Infantry units to the Arty battalions. From personal experience, FOs need to be at the Infantry units, because that’s who you are going to war with. Also, FOs needs to be it’s own MOS/Branch with it’s own officers, be able to become JTAC qualified and become less dependent on TACP using the USMC JTAC course model. Lastly, in a peer to peer war, you will be clearing rooms if you’re in an urban environment. Please read military history books. Regardless of era or weapons being used, in a city, you are clearing it if the enemy is holding it. And yes, there was plenty of room clearing during WWII, just dependent on what front and location you were fighting in.The key is to determine whether or not you need to clear that city or a section of it or if you can just bypass it. Just my 2 cents. Thank for sharing your experiences, knowledge and thoughts. Great work!
Thank you for bringing up and telling these younger kids to not let the Army Recruiters to bully you. I’m a lot older then you two and the best advice I got was from Ole CSM LG back. In the 90’s . He told me it’s your career not theirs .
We really try our best to give honest and good advice and we appreciate that the support! Always have to advocate for yourself because if you don't who will right? -Jay
Thank you so much for this! I just reserved my spot as 13F, and I should be shipping to basic on Aug. 22. I'm volunteering for rasp as soon as possible (hopefully from AIT), as there were no option 40s left. I was trying to decide between 11x and 13f, especially with the ranger experience in mind. This is a great resource, thanks for filming this!
Awesome! Daniel and I love to see more 13F's! You will have to let us know what the current volunteer options. Let us know if you have any questions and also keep us updated on your pipeline! -Jay
Outstanding. I was 11- Bravo , Air Assault Infantry, National Guard 1983-1989; 3ID 1991 11-Mike Bradley Team leader. While at Harmony Church during my AIT , in 1985, I was going to go to Airborne and RIP. However, a few months before I shipped out to BCT, I met my future and current wife. My military plans changed. HOOAH!
Awesome vid learned a lot was actually planning on re classing to 13f as a e-5. One question why has there been such a shortage of 13f through out the army for so many years is it retention people not qualifying for the job
I think it is a mix of a lack of knowledge and higher requirements in specific scores on the ASVAB. I grew up military and didn't know about it until my recruiter, who was a 13F, told me about it. -Jay
@@caydc yea me and my bud frank are going to Fort Sill, both Option 40. Recruiter told me we’ll be in the same platoon as well, but I might see you around and definitely at AIT
So I'm a prior service Marine going into 13f as an E4 and volunteering for the 75th. Have you encountered any prior service or guys that have lat moved into 13f into regiment and how well did they integrate with being new to the Regiment and not being tabbed?
So I will field this one. There are a lot of imports in regiment, whether from the regular army or other branches. You'll get a little shit for being an "import" but its mostly just shit talking that I'm sure you're already fully integrated into being a marine lol. You will essentially be a private which I know does not sound ideal. If you are in good shape and study hard though you can jump the list to go to ranger school if you are really the best person for the job. Learning a new MOS is going to be hard, but having knowledge of the military in general allows you to sort of skip learning to be in the military so you can focus on job knowledge. Okay I sort of rambled there. Long story short, work hard and study and you will excel. Some of my best leaders in regiment were imports!
@@jayteeegaming182 yea man, it’s all about being humble and obviously not thinking because I’m a Marine I “rate.” Joining an entire diff branch, and if and when I do get to the regiment, it’s a world I’ve never been in so, I need to PAY to PLAY and earn my place!
Is there a connection between the skills learned as a 13F and the skills to be learned as an 18E? I would assume that there is a correlation and the skills learned as an observer may be useful if you plan to move up into SF later into your career.
Yes there is. You will learn a ton about operating radios and have a background as a 13F will allow you to effectively call for fire if needed. When I was in Bragg I used to help train the SF group how to call for fire! -Jay
I was a RTO in Vietnam. Much of what you say is correct, but what you do not know is, we were often with no support ( 1969-1970 ). Is it so differen`t ?
So I am really thinking about joining the army well the military in general so I have a grandpa who served in the navy during WW2 and my family and friends really want me to join the Air Force and I honestly thought about but I really want to be a RANGER I just love the camaraderie and the motto of the rangers so I’m wondering if you guys have any advice also I am 21 I will be 22 in 2 months
Well Rangers vs Air Force is really a personal choice and we can help break some of that down for you. In terms of getting prepped though we have a ton of informational content hear and of course workout and nutrition plans on our site. Getting yourself mentally and physically prepared is going to help you succeed no matter what you choose to do! -Jay
As a Regiment 13f I knew a lot of this stuff. There is a learning curve for others but it's not hard to pick that stuff up. In my opinion all soldiers should know these things regardless of their MOS
Hey guys, Prior service Navy E5 getting ready to enlist. I was an Air Traffic Controller in the Navy and as a Civilian, so I think my skills would help the boys more as a 13F. Will I have problems volunteering for RASP as an E4 or E5 13F in AIT without a Tab?
You shouldn't have a problem volunteering, but you will have to attend Ranger School after RASP before arriving to your Battalion if you are an E-5. -Jay
Yo OIF 06-08 I was kicking down doors. I was point man numerous times. Almost got sniped walking out a building. And regardless of war you will be clearing rooms. Eventually you're going to have to get to a roof top. That was a dumbass comment
Medically retired after 15 years as a FO 2004-19. 6x combat deployments. So it would be battlefield intelligence but thats okay. I love what yall are doing here but if ya need one of them crazy ass old school fisters opinion just let me know..
I’m about to sign an option 40 with 13F MOS. I got a buddy in 3rd batt whose doing it and loves it. Can’t wait for the challenge of pushing through training, and for the responsibility that comes with the job!
How’d that end up? You make it? 😂
@@Morningstar_Actualhe didn’t
I loved how you guys explained the differences between an 11B and a 13F. I never heard it explained the way you two did and so far it’s the best that I have come across. You guys actually describe perfectly the different job knowledge/experiences between 13Fs in conventional and SOF Army, and some of the issues we saw coming down the pipe when 13Fs were moved back from the Infantry units to the Arty battalions. From personal experience, FOs need to be at the Infantry units, because that’s who you are going to war with. Also, FOs needs to be it’s own MOS/Branch with it’s own officers, be able to become JTAC qualified and become less dependent on TACP using the USMC JTAC course model. Lastly, in a peer to peer war, you will be clearing rooms if you’re in an urban environment. Please read military history books. Regardless of era or weapons being used, in a city, you are clearing it if the enemy is holding it. And yes, there was plenty of room clearing during WWII, just dependent on what front and location you were fighting in.The key is to determine whether or not you need to clear that city or a section of it or if you can just bypass it. Just my 2 cents. Thank for sharing your experiences, knowledge and thoughts. Great work!
Thank you for bringing up and telling these younger kids to not let the Army Recruiters to bully you. I’m a lot older then you two and the best advice I got was from Ole CSM LG back. In the 90’s . He told me it’s your career not theirs .
We really try our best to give honest and good advice and we appreciate that the support! Always have to advocate for yourself because if you don't who will right? -Jay
Thank you so much for this! I just reserved my spot as 13F, and I should be shipping to basic on Aug. 22. I'm volunteering for rasp as soon as possible (hopefully from AIT), as there were no option 40s left. I was trying to decide between 11x and 13f, especially with the ranger experience in mind. This is a great resource, thanks for filming this!
Awesome! Daniel and I love to see more 13F's! You will have to let us know what the current volunteer options. Let us know if you have any questions and also keep us updated on your pipeline! -Jay
13F Ft Sill Ok - 1979 - from there to Benning - Benning to Ft Bragg - Rock on!
🙌😁
13F is the way to go for me.
Outstanding. I was 11- Bravo , Air Assault Infantry, National Guard 1983-1989; 3ID 1991 11-Mike Bradley Team leader. While at Harmony Church during my AIT , in 1985, I was going to go to Airborne and RIP. However, a few months before I shipped out to BCT, I met my future and current wife. My military plans changed. HOOAH!
A lot of valuable information in this one thanks guys
13F option 40 here going to basic May 16th at FT Jackson
I’m at AIT now 🤙
@@AdvocateForFaith How's it going?
Awesome vid learned a lot was actually planning on re classing to 13f as a e-5. One question why has there been such a shortage of 13f through out the army for so many years is it retention people not qualifying for the job
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I think it is a mix of a lack of knowledge and higher requirements in specific scores on the ASVAB. I grew up military and didn't know about it until my recruiter, who was a 13F, told me about it. -Jay
Going in as a 13F with Option 40, I’m shipping out on April 30th. Wish me luck
Nice man. I'm going in as a 13F not option 40 though, but I ship out on April 29th...I might see you there.
@@caydc yea me and my bud frank are going to Fort Sill, both Option 40. Recruiter told me we’ll be in the same platoon as well, but I might see you around and definitely at AIT
@@Itan_Hillsan Can’t wait
I’m currently an infantrymen at Fort Benning I’m interested in possibly becoming a forward observer.
Ft Moore now
It's weird how the next thing you move on to in life makes you forget much about what was so relevant at one time
Wheres the first podcast where you go in depth of your mos
@GabrielArguello-e4r ah yes had scrubbed some of the old videos awhile back, but check for it again, it's reposted
So I'm a prior service Marine going into 13f as an E4 and volunteering for the 75th. Have you encountered any prior service or guys that have lat moved into 13f into regiment and how well did they integrate with being new to the Regiment and not being tabbed?
I’m a prior marine as well debating 11b, 13f, or 25c option 40
So I will field this one. There are a lot of imports in regiment, whether from the regular army or other branches. You'll get a little shit for being an "import" but its mostly just shit talking that I'm sure you're already fully integrated into being a marine lol. You will essentially be a private which I know does not sound ideal. If you are in good shape and study hard though you can jump the list to go to ranger school if you are really the best person for the job. Learning a new MOS is going to be hard, but having knowledge of the military in general allows you to sort of skip learning to be in the military so you can focus on job knowledge.
Okay I sort of rambled there. Long story short, work hard and study and you will excel. Some of my best leaders in regiment were imports!
@@jayteeegaming182 yea man, it’s all about being humble and obviously not thinking because I’m a Marine I “rate.” Joining an entire diff branch, and if and when I do get to the regiment, it’s a world I’ve never been in so, I need to PAY to PLAY and earn my place!
@@brandonrodriguez6334 yea you're gonna be fine brother. You have a great mindset and if you work hard you will succeed
@@brandonrodriguez6334 dont say if i make it dude. say I WILL make it.
Is there a connection between the skills learned as a 13F and the skills to be learned as an 18E? I would assume that there is a correlation and the skills learned as an observer may be useful if you plan to move up into SF later into your career.
Yes there is. You will learn a ton about operating radios and have a background as a 13F will allow you to effectively call for fire if needed. When I was in Bragg I used to help train the SF group how to call for fire! -Jay
I was a RTO in Vietnam. Much of what you say is correct, but what you do not know is, we were often with no support ( 1969-1970 ). Is it so differen`t ?
We usually had decent air support. Different wars and times. Much respect, thank you for your service 🇺🇸
I am in the process of going to 13F reclass then to RASP When could you get into an RSLC class?
Getting to regiment its hard to get any schools that aren't job related until you complete ranger school
Yeah agreed, Ranger School first and then you can request other schools and things like RSLC
Is there a link to James’ twitch channel?
With school and TLR my schedule is a little too packed right now for streaming! -Jay
is it worth joining the ranger battalion, are they deploying after wartime?
So I am really thinking about joining the army well the military in general so I have a grandpa who served in the navy during WW2 and my family and friends really want me to join the Air Force and I honestly thought about but I really want to be a RANGER I just love the camaraderie and the motto of the rangers so I’m wondering if you guys have any advice also I am 21 I will be 22 in 2 months
Well Rangers vs Air Force is really a personal choice and we can help break some of that down for you. In terms of getting prepped though we have a ton of informational content hear and of course workout and nutrition plans on our site. Getting yourself mentally and physically prepared is going to help you succeed no matter what you choose to do! -Jay
I fucking miss my brothers fun ass 15 yrs
How hard is ranger school without having an 11B's extensive experience with infantry tactics?
As a Regiment 13f I knew a lot of this stuff. There is a learning curve for others but it's not hard to pick that stuff up. In my opinion all soldiers should know these things regardless of their MOS
Hey guys,
Prior service Navy E5 getting ready to enlist. I was an Air Traffic Controller in the Navy and as a Civilian, so I think my skills would help the boys more as a 13F.
Will I have problems volunteering for RASP as an E4 or E5 13F in AIT without a Tab?
You shouldn't have a problem volunteering, but you will have to attend Ranger School after RASP before arriving to your Battalion if you are an E-5. -Jay
@@TrainLikeaRanger I also heard that I’ll be expected to go to certain schools pretty quickly.
Like JTAC for example. Have any other advice?
Yo OIF 06-08 I was kicking down doors. I was point man numerous times. Almost got sniped walking out a building. And regardless of war you will be clearing rooms. Eventually you're going to have to get to a roof top. That was a dumbass comment
I was thinking the same thing man
If yall want a bad ass story i was the Fires NCOIC for Mosul in 2017 during the destruction of Old mosul and ISIS. Hit me up
Medically retired after 15 years as a FO 2004-19. 6x combat deployments. So it would be battlefield intelligence but thats okay. I love what yall are doing here but if ya need one of them crazy ass old school fisters opinion just let me know..