UPDATE! So I missed a dumb obvious thing, turns out the controller has to be shaken to make it wake up the Switch. Not a huge fan of that vs a simple button press, BUT it does mean the controller does allow for consistently waking up the Switch as opposed to what I say in video about having trouble waking the system. Good to know hah.
I can’t remember if it was Spawn or Taki who but they did specifically mention that it’s not advertised on the website so it could be easy to miss if you’re not looking for it. But they did a tear down of the two versions of this controller and the cheaper one did not have the upgraded sticks.
Literally just checked the comments to make sure Kev knew about this. Kind of a huge deal in 3rd party controller options, and for 8bitdo, a very welcome upgrade. Honestly, I didn't know about the 2.4ghz to BT switch or how the dock had passthrough USB for the dongle. Suuuuper cool stuff from 8bitdo lately.
I’ve been having trouble finding a comfortable switch controller that doesn’t feel cheap as hell. I’ll definitely be picking this one up, thanks again Kevin! 👍
@@zlac for the switch I’d much rather have the official one just because of the triggers because the analog triggers are useless (and, imo, feel weird)for switch. If this had trigger stops it would be perfect imo.
Wow I’m sold, the amount of customization choices on that app is crazy. Left Stick on Dpad sounds great for Link’s Awakening. Not many videos on this controller and none of them went thru the customization option like you did. Thanks for the great vid as always! Edit: You can turn on the switch by pressing the home button and shaking the controller. I just seen the Q&A on Amazon.
Surprised you didn't mention the Hall Effect joysticks in the Switch controller specifically (not the Xbox button model) for zero to no stick drift and maximum response. All in all, though, I love your videos and this is just one more that may convince me to get this not only as a Switch controller, but potentially a main driver for my PC gaming as well.
Very true! I tend to focus a lot more on what user experience and feel is like, when I was recording and just gushing about how much I enjoyed using it, it just totally skipped my mind lol. Maybe I'll throw together a quick little followup short about that.
I came here to say the same thing (halfway through, didn't realize he never mentioned it). I just put halls in my Steam Deck and MAN it's a game changer.
8bitdo seems to make some of the best 3rd party controllers for the switch. I have a pro2 myself and it is one of my favorite controllers ever. I think 8bitdo should try their hand at making a set of pro joycons that are similar in design to the hori split pad pro's but with gyro controls, rumble, etc.
That's an exercise in CAD, ergonomics and cost calculus right there. Otherwise, a 3D printer and a PCB design is within reach of a hobbyist designer - it'll be boutique as fuck though. That being said - casted acrylic controller anyone? It's doable.
People mentioned the hall effect sticks in other comments, but what interesting is that 8BitDo licensed the design from another company, Gulikit, who makes their own Switch pro controller in the King Kong Pro 2. The ergonomics are MUCH more in line with an XBox controllers, down to an Xbox controller fitting inside the hard shell case that the KKP2 comes in (the bottom half, anyway. The hard shell won't close around it). If you're willing to give up some of the creature comforts of the 8BitDo software and the back paddles, you'll find that it has all the features of turbo buttons, sensitivity tuning, gyro controls, waking from sleep, and even a macro recording function built in, plus it has NFC for Amiibo compatibility.
@@Big.Catto512 I'd be interested in looking into it. The only mention of bad delay I've seen is Nintendo Life mentioning the motion controls aren't very good in Splatoon, but I haven't come across anything definitive at least in RUclips reviews when I was doing my research. And I've basically quit playing Smash so I'm not playing anything super sensitive with it at the moment. Any reference you have on it would be appreciated!
@@Big.Catto512 Oh in case you're still debating between the controllers, the Gulikit input delay issues were fixed in a firmware update. Got my Bluetooth Ultimate controller in hand and it's just as excellent as the Gulikit. You really can't go wrong with either unless there are specific features you want from one or the other or there are certain ergonomic nitpicks you prefer
The “wake function” works by shaking the controller. It’s a feature that they added and they’ve mentioned in Q&As! It’s just a bit of a different way that isn’t obvious at first to turn on the switch
You just convinced me to pick this up. I've had an official pro controller for right about 5 years now, and I think its one of the best purchases I've ever made for the switch. Even though mine is still in good condition, I've been kinda wanting something new just to shake things up a bit. I've heard a lot of good things about 8bitdo, but have yet to get one of their controllers. The included charging dock pretty much sold me on this controller (as well as it being white, to match my OLED model). :D
You forgot to mention the Hall Effect sensors. That's a HUGE feature and makes a big difference in both the lifespan and reliability of the controller. I'd love to see you bring this up so people won't overlook such a key feature!! Might be trading in my Pro Controller to get one of these.
Whats hall effect sensors is? And when its nots official pad, often durability issue, waht do you think about this? but for my pc, this pad seems wonderfull.
@@Olivier.Colonna-Comedien Hall Effect sensors for the joysticks uses magnets to detect movement of the joysticks. This is better than compared to traditional joysticks since traditional joysticks has friction between the contact part and carbon film material, which results in wear and eventually drift. Whereas since hall effect sensors don't have physical contact with the magnet, which means that it doesn't physical wear and drift.
For $70 I really wish they had included NFC as well, especially since the Gulikit does have NFC. Other than that my only other complaint would be no X-Input over Bluetooth on PC, just the dongle. If they could allow it via an update later, that would be amazing.
I would LOVE to see a side by side comparison video between this and the GuliKit King Kong Pro 2. Both of them seem like the new Switch titans as far as controllers go
My only issue with it is no HD rumble. I'd love to have a controller with paddles that I can use for Splatoon 3, but I rely heavily on the nuanced haptic cues that the game provides.
yeah, HD Rumble is definitely the big tradeoff compared to going with Nintendo 1st party. It is the one thing I miss, but everything I get in return is worth it for me. Just gotta swap over on occasion if HD rumble really matters for a specific title hah
One weird thing about the controller is the way it interacts with Splatoon 2/3 very specifically. Since the entire game's camera is built around the gyro (which honestly feels slightly better in this controller than the Pro), Splatoon uses a lot of subtle HD rumble which means this controller translates it to classic rumble - this causes the camera to essentially rumble when you're swimming through ink and whatnot - I can't tell if I like it or find it disorienting but it doesn't quite mess up the gameplay. If the rumble for the controller can be toggled down in intensity though, that might totally alleviate the issue, I haven't messed around with that yet!
THANK YOU for mentioning that the USB dock acts as a USB extender/passthrough for the dongle. No other reviewer has mentioned this, and I wanted to know.
I'm kind of mixed on this because I liked being able to potentially replace an aging rechargeable battery easily on the previous 8bitdo offerings so the controller actually lasts into the future when the built in rechargeable battery eventually goes bad in some few years or so. But you get hall effect sticks on the bt+2.4g version, which is an interesting tradeoff. I'm still probably going to go with the Pro 2 in the future but I really want to see hall effect analog sticks and triggers become a mainstay so people don't have to worry about potentiometer-based wear and subsequent drifting caused by that wear.
Tbf I've never had any potentiometer based joysticks have drift apart from on the extremely flimsy joycon sticks. It's a nice improvement but not a must have by any means
@Dorgesh your experience wont be the same as the entire community i and millions of others have had pretty much every potentiometer based conttroller that we have owned get drift its not a rare occurrence
I already have, and really love, my 8bitdo pro2. Not for switch so much (I'm happy with the 1st party pro control, and I've already got a charging stand for that which also keeps my spare joycons charged), but the pro2 is the main control I use with my steam deck while docked. Despite having no complaints about the pro2, I am sorely tempted to pick this up as a replacement. It looks great, and I'm a sucker for charging docks - they keep controllers topped up and give them a discrete place to live so you never have to fumble around looking for them.
Y'know what I want to see in a multi-system controller? LED face buttons that change their symbols to match whatever system you're using. How often have you been told to "press x" and momentarily forget that the "x" the game refers to is "y" or "a" or whatever on your controller?
I’ve been using the controller for about a month. I replaced joysticks in 3 of our joycons and they’ve already started acting up intermittently which is frustrating. I replaced the joycon sticks about a week or so before getting this controller. I’ve had zero issues out of it. I love that I don’t have to worry about drift. I have large sized hands so I wish the controller was just a smidge bigger. But it is comfortable enough and my kids ca ln use it no problem. The profile setups are nice but I haven’t figured out how to map the back triggers for profile 2 and 3. Currently only profile one has the back buttons mapped. Lastly, the back triggers have to travel very far to activate but that’s easy enough to correct by increasing their sensitivity. All in all, I love this controller and will use it for just about everything I play except maybe smash bros.
Mine is coming today. I am pumped. It also has Hall Effect joysticks that are the same ones from the Gulikit KingKong 2 Pro. I have that controller and it is pretty darn good as well.
I know Nintendo isn't planning to drop the ZR ZL convention, but I at least wish they could move the Z's to the end making it RZ and LZ, that way controller itself could use an ambiguous font where it didn't matter whether it's RZ/LZ or R2/L2 since they'd look the same.
Being able to replace the internal battery with AA batterys to me, seemed like a dead controller issue. Instead. I see it as a way to replace them with rechargable AA batteries, while a in-comtroller chargable battery is nice, batteries dont last forever. Being able to change the battery into easily sourceable standered AA means the controller will last longer, My 2000-and-something Wiimotes are as good as they were from the factory as dont suffer from battery decay due to them being easily replaceable.
I just bought a Nintendo Switch and I'm really liking it so far, some of the games I've bought for it are SMM2, Mega Man 11 and I'm also able to play NES and SNES games which I'm really loving so far. I just bought it last week so I don't have that many games but I will eventually get more games for and will get SMO2 (Super Mario Odessey 2) whenever it comes out.
I'd say the Hall effect joysticks are a huge part of the user experience. No mention of them? So many have suffered stick drift with this device, it's a huge, if not the main, selling point.
Kind of really blows that the wake up function only works if you're connected through bluetooth and not through the dongle that's included. unless someone else can confirm it works for them?
Been tossing up between the Pro 2 and this model. My main gripe with the Switch Pro is the dpad, so curious if either model is better for mostly dpad-focused games in your opinion. But, in my heart I'm waiting for the day they'll slap on the M30's Saturn-style dpad onto a pro controller. A man can dream.
this also have Magnetic Hall Sensors from Gulikit so the durability for your sticks is way better than other controllers on the market atm. this is by far the best 3rd party controller out there. it's also my Switch and Steamdeck Go to controller.
@@obvfw ivw heard from different channels that the feel of the kingkong pro2 isnt as great as the plastic isnt the best quality. i decided to get this one and i could not be happier, built quality is amazing and the macro is pretty deep! you cant go wrong with 8bit .
@@Quiqueleal85I don’t really agree. I hate the rough texture of this controller; the KingKong 2 feels like a dream in comparison. The D-Pad isn’t as good but it’s still miles better than the Switch Pro so can’t complain. I think the Wii U Pro/GamePad still have the best D-Pads out there
I got my unit yesterday. My main complaint is compatibility wise this controller is a massive step back compared to 8bitdo's previous models. Previous controllers had 4 modes and you could use them as you saw fit. With this controller, PC and android can only use it in Xbox mode with the 2.4ghz dongle. This makes it annoying if you want to use it with a tablet or laptop, since you can't use the Bluetooth built into the device, and since you can't pair it as a Switch controller you can't access the Gyro. When you try to use the bluetooth on a PC it constantly disconnects and shows up as an unknown controller. Additionally people how found that many devices, like the Steam Deck, don't work with it at all either via Bluetooth or 2.4ghz. Which is crazy as both Xbox and Switch first party controllers work completely fine on the Steam Deck. My secondary complaint is that they didn't include height adjustable sticks, or at least incorporate the mechanism and sell them as an addon, like Guilikit does. This could have been the ultimate "elite" controller if they added that. Now if you want hall effect for the no drift and smaller deadzones, you have to pick between a Gulikit controller, which has the adjustable sticks, or an 8bitdo ultimate, which has the paddles.
Ngl the best pro controller for switch is the power A Nintendo switch Pro controller with 4 back-paddles, switchable faceplates, different length sticks, rubberised grips and very nice triggers. Has wired and wireless. Also has gyroscope and built in audio jack. But doesn't have rumble. (Also comes with case) solid £90.
….$69 Noice, honestly price makes sense technology wise that’s good, and the controller looks and sounds worth it…my wallet won’t be happy but my gameplay might!
I want to see you do a review on joy cons that are made from a third-party company that have magnets in it that does everything Nintendo genie look almost identical
I'm not mad about it, its a Multiplatform controller (but I think they sort of differed off nintendo and leaned more xbox a tad too much to kill the actual pro controller) I still love the controller though!
I would love to see a video that compares king kong pro 2 with this controller. They are the only two controllers in the market with hall effect sensors. I just want to know which one feels better on hand
I started useing 8bit's controllers cause I am a Switch and PC gamer and they were all convention for keeping paired to both these platforms specifically without needing to re pair. But this controller is just nice. In my case I leave the Dock plugged in to my PC, keeping the 2.4hz options for my PC and then I keep the Bluetooth mod paired to my Switch.
Got it for $50 since our store had it confused with the 2.4g wireless for a day. It's pretty nice, hefty and the grip is 👌 tho I suggest buying a grip for the analogs cause they smooth af
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Can you compare this to the Gulikit King Kong Pro 2? It also uses Hall effect sensors for the joysticks, while using more of an XBox controller form factor.
Great preview! Any chance you do a follow-up for those hall-effect sticks? Would be really interesting to see if it's possible to reduce the dead zone compared to the regular Pro Controller. Would be great for FPS games...
I love 8bitdo and I have no doubt this is an excellent controller... but I kind of feel like a little of the magic is gone as they seem to have moved on from their retro inspired designs. I still love my SN30 Pro and can't imagine I'll be switching anytime soon. I love the aesthetic, the travel friendly form factor, and as I have small hands it fits perfectly in my grip. It's my primary controller and I imagine it will continue to be for awhile.
I still like they're going this route though. And it's probably for the better, they can't keep maintaining their business on the niche of retro styled controllers. They certainly can still produce them but they have SO MUCH potential to being an excellent well rounded third-party company And I think this controller is going to take off, not only it's starting to get competitive against the first party options. But there's a big chance that due to it's success that we may be able to see bigger and better controllers in the near future Although personally I would also prefer if they made a refresh of the sn30 line with the new Bluetooth from this controller so fix most of the latency issues. And I think this controller is the perfect gateway to that
I think that they wanted to cover retro until they started becoming the best modern controller, and now they want to do either just modern controllers or both.
You missed a big detail that makes these so much better for just general use, it has Hall Effect Joysticks, which use magnets to ensure that Stick Drift will never occur. It's one of the major features of the device since a lot of other brands still use the crappy old style sticks at this point. I think even the $50 ones use it too, but they lack Gyro controls.
How does 8bitdo knock it out of the park everytime for these controllers, with so many options and nice build quality. I think it is the most versatile 3rd party controller we have for switch.
One thing I've always been interested in with controllers like that is if on PC if those back buttons are independent buttons by default? Ever since I got used to the grips on the Steam Controller I've been a big fan of this option on PC as it lets you easily use the grips as modifier buttons or multi button presses for whatever you're doing. Like for example if I'm use a primarily keyboard and mouse game on the steam controller I'll often put shift and ctrl on the grips as they can easily be held while operating the face buttons and the trackpads. They're also good for mode shifting where you hold down the grip and temporarily switch some buttons to another action layer or action set. If the back buttons can only mimic face buttons then you lose that functionality. I know Steam has some enhanced drivers for the Xbox elite controllers but I'm not sure they'd work with something like this, and to be honest I really would like this being done by default on PC. (Though there's lots of things I'd like by default on PC. Like having gyro as part of the xinput standard so I can stop having to emulate a PS4/PS5 controller to get analog triggers and gyro.
Finally main controller for both pc AND switch. I game on both pc and switch and switch between them back to back pretty regularly so controller like this would be perfect.
Bro... you didn't mention the "Hall Sensor" technology. Seems like an edit is in order. For those who don't know, the Hall sensor all but guarentees you won't have a problem with stick drift.
This may sound dumb, but hd rumble has become a huge feature for me. Nintendo makes some games that take it into account, but more importantly, all sony games that are being released on pc have the ps5’s rumble config. And for some reason the Magic Mayflash supports it. So whenever i play spiderman, horizon, god of war or any game that has haptic feedback, my pro controllers can pick it up from my pc, and the difference is huge. So much so that between that and battery life i almost never use my xbox one controller anymore
So excited for this. My only gripe is I want four buttons on the back so I can have them all for face buttons. I'm very used to using all the paddles on my xbox elite controller, and I'd love to have that same option on the switch while having the quality of an 8bitdo controller.
It includes the dongle, that makes it a no brainer for people like me that don't have it, and also means I get to use some controllers that I have lying about on the switch, or on PC If need be, I'm completely sold
You Have to press the home Button and after that to shake a little bit the Controller. And the consoles goes on. Spawn wave showed that. Its a bit weird But if you know how it works every time.
The dongle is amazing for smash tournaments! You don't need to worry about syncing and leaving it synced to someone else's switch but still get the wireless experience (which while slower than wired, has gotten fast enough that I don't notice on official pro controller). The thing I'm wondering about is the input lag and the reliability. All 3 of my 8bitdo controllers (2 sn30pro 1 pro2) have an issue where after a certain, shrinking length of time where they'll just stop working. Wired somehow accelerates the issue to a point where I've stopped using a wire entirely and I've bought a pro 2 wired hoping it was a QC issue, then I had to return it in 3 days because of this issue appearing in less than 12 hours of play. I really like this controller and want to get it but if this issue persists, I'm probably never going to buy an 8bitdo controller again.
On the other hand, it’s not great for casual smash. You can just bring a pro controller to a friend’s house to play. With this, you need your controller, and your usb connector (or your controller is useless). Maybe even a USB hub if others are bribing wired controllers (in particular, game cube controllers as well).
@@Jan-vp9qt Exactly, which is why I love the dongle so much, it allows the option without hindering it's use at all. Did you even watch the video @User Name? You can totally just use bluetooth mode and it acts just like a pro controller.
Yeah I can't really see any reason to buy this over my Pro 2. I don't play a ton of Switch so my Xbox Elite 2 already does everything this does and more for most of my gaming. When I'm not feeling that the Pro 2 is a nice change, although the stick tension is a bit less on there than I like.
Second review I've seen on this, and while I'm tempted to grab this to replace my old partially busted Pro Controller, I still haven't heard a single thing about the motion controls that's included which is a make or break deal for Splatoon. Can't say I'm a fan of the pricing though, on the US store it's basically even with the Pro Controller but on the Canadian store its $170 and I can't see any way that's justified. It'd be nearly $50 cheaper if I decided to buy through the American site, but that still ends up being a good $30 more than a standard Pro Controller I could grab locally. It sucks because I've heard nothing but good things but there's no way I can justify spending that much money on a controller, especially when I have a hard enough time justifying getting a normal Pro Controller as is. If I've got a ton of money to burn I'd consider it but until then I don't think I'll be picking this up anytime soon unfortunately.
Would definitely consider one if I didn't already own like 5 switch controllers. Hall effect joystick are probably the best feature as it wont drift in the controllers (and probably our) lifetime!
I was sold by the back paddles on the Pro 2, and now I'm gonna have to save up again to get this one because my Pro 2 is starting to drift. For players who intensely use the L3 and R3, for example for playing Apex Legends, mapping those keys to the back paddles will help you in the long run because you won't be repeatedly putting pressure on your thumb joints. Trust me, I've lost my left from pressing L3 so much. LOL. There is a constant dull pain on my left thumb joint now, it feels weak and hurts more even from just lifting a glass of water.
for a competitive game like Splatoon 3, i'm curious if the gyro for this works as well as the pro controller. A lot of 3rd party controllers just don't work as well as nintendos so if this worked as well I would definitely make the switch.
My ultimate gets here later today, and Im def gonna use it for Splatoon 3. I have a pro controller too that I'll compare it with. The gyro on my sn30 pro 2 works great for Splatoon. So I would imagine this is at least the same if not better
@@jumiku5365 I absolutely love it. Gyro feels really good to me. Slightly different feel than pro controller but not in a bad way, it's really smooth. Controller ins incredible all over. Amazing feel and built quality, the app works great. Ridiculously happy with my purchase. Played about 5 hours of Splatoon 3 with it yest
JUST BOUGHT ONE!! cant wait for it to be delivered 😭 i dont really play games but i do collect controllers and this one had been in the list for such a long time. loooove the clean design, colours and charging dock. hopefully it worth the price
The that I don't have to worry about stick drift (something the Switch Joysticks are infamous for, and a word I didn't even knew before the Switch came out), makes the cost of this worth it, plus it includes a charging station which the Switch Pro controller does not
Just got mine today. My first impression is that if feels very cheap overall, and more importantly, L and R don't spring back into place well. It's not so bad that I want to return it, but I can't help but feel disappointed.
My pro controller is starting to drift so I honestly might pick this up although might also just wait for the next Nintendo console’s pro controller and use the joy cons until then
Got to get one of these to replace my third-party Chinese controller which works perfectly well I just don’t care for the stiffness of the D pad or the buttons plus the thumb stick seem to have a larger than normal dead zone. All my research points to this being the 🐐 of Nintendo switch controllers 🎮🏆
Need an input lag test to see if it's just as laggy as Nintendo's own official Switch Pro Controller. that thing has been tested and confirmed to have around 12ms more lag than the Joy-Con's. And believe me, you can feel the difference between the two. In-game characters feel a little heavier and less responsive with the Pro, as expected. I could be wrong, but I doubt this 8bitdo Ultimate is going to be any better than the Pro in this area, probably worse actually. I wonder how it's gyro stacks up against the Pro as well. Bummer about the lack of 'HD' rumble too. :P
@@adrianofrusteri1718 Hopefully Nintendo's Next Pro controller for Switch 2. :P Seriously though, no idea. Depending on the game, some times I'll use the official(Splatoon 2) pro controller, or bounce back to the Joy-con's(paired with the controller grip) for less latency. 12ms less, confirmed and tested. ;) I wish i could get rid of the joy-cons, because they're just straight up garbage, but they come in handy if you want snappier/more responsive controls for 2D platformers.
8bitdo is my favoured 3rd party controller maker besides hori. Excellent quality and haptic. Please put the hall sensor sticks in the wired version of the ultimate for series x/s. Instant buy. ☮️
This controller seems really cool and I kinda wanna get it just to play around with it. I like the two extra buttons on the back. If only it could do Amiibo and had electromagnetic joysticks.
Yeah, I'm sticking with the Nintendo Pro Controller. Some of those compromises are too much to deal with compared to having something that already feels great and just works right out of the box.
The only reason I'll keep using my SN30 Pro+ and Pro 2 controlles is the removable battery. Previous batteries that 8BitDo included with their controllers simply died on me and I can't accept that with a model that won't allow even a proprietary replacement.
UPDATE! So I missed a dumb obvious thing, turns out the controller has to be shaken to make it wake up the Switch. Not a huge fan of that vs a simple button press, BUT it does mean the controller does allow for consistently waking up the Switch as opposed to what I say in video about having trouble waking the system. Good to know hah.
also very surprised there was not one mention of the hall effect sensor joysticks. easily top 3 selling point for this controller
I'm pretty sure Nintendo doesn't allow 3rd party controllers to use a button for wakeup
@@gaykickflip Yeah, the entire reason I'm getting this controller is because of the Hall effect joysticks #nodriftlife
@@leftovernoise there's quite a few controllers that turn on the Switch.
I can’t remember if it was Spawn or Taki who but they did specifically mention that it’s not advertised on the website so it could be easy to miss if you’re not looking for it. But they did a tear down of the two versions of this controller and the cheaper one did not have the upgraded sticks.
One big plus to this controller is that they have hall effect joysticks, no worries of drifting for the life of the product.
Also true! I tend to focus more on user experience so it skipped my mind during recording, might do a quick followup short talking about that as well.
This is the feature that makes it separate from the rest!
Literally just checked the comments to make sure Kev knew about this. Kind of a huge deal in 3rd party controller options, and for 8bitdo, a very welcome upgrade. Honestly, I didn't know about the 2.4ghz to BT switch or how the dock had passthrough USB for the dongle. Suuuuper cool stuff from 8bitdo lately.
It's why I bought one. Just wish it had 4 back buttons. It'd be perfect if it did.
@@Sadtiric I think we're a going to see a lot of hall effect controllers next year, I hope some of them are made for competitive gaming.
I’ve been having trouble finding a comfortable switch controller that doesn’t feel cheap as hell. I’ll definitely be picking this one up, thanks again Kevin! 👍
Awesome!
@@KevinKenson I love the pro 2 but this looks better thank u
What's wrong with the official one?
@@zlac for the switch I’d much rather have the official one just because of the triggers because the analog triggers are useless (and, imo, feel weird)for switch. If this had trigger stops it would be perfect imo.
@@zlac triggers and still susceptible to drift. I’ll probably take the 8bit over the official specifically for the hall sticks
Wow I’m sold, the amount of customization choices on that app is crazy. Left Stick on Dpad sounds great for Link’s Awakening. Not many videos on this controller and none of them went thru the customization option like you did. Thanks for the great vid as always!
Edit: You can turn on the switch by pressing the home button and shaking the controller. I just seen the Q&A on Amazon.
Surprised you didn't mention the Hall Effect joysticks in the Switch controller specifically (not the Xbox button model) for zero to no stick drift and maximum response. All in all, though, I love your videos and this is just one more that may convince me to get this not only as a Switch controller, but potentially a main driver for my PC gaming as well.
Very true! I tend to focus a lot more on what user experience and feel is like, when I was recording and just gushing about how much I enjoyed using it, it just totally skipped my mind lol. Maybe I'll throw together a quick little followup short about that.
@@KevinKenson All good! Not a big deal. Really enjoy your content.
I came here to say the same thing (halfway through, didn't realize he never mentioned it). I just put halls in my Steam Deck and MAN it's a game changer.
I use this for my PC. The button prompts in-game are for an Xbox controller. More a slight bother rather than a real problem.
8bitdo seems to make some of the best 3rd party controllers for the switch. I have a pro2 myself and it is one of my favorite controllers ever. I think 8bitdo should try their hand at making a set of pro joycons that are similar in design to the hori split pad pro's but with gyro controls, rumble, etc.
That's an exercise in CAD, ergonomics and cost calculus right there. Otherwise, a 3D printer and a PCB design is within reach of a hobbyist designer - it'll be boutique as fuck though.
That being said - casted acrylic controller anyone? It's doable.
People mentioned the hall effect sticks in other comments, but what interesting is that 8BitDo licensed the design from another company, Gulikit, who makes their own Switch pro controller in the King Kong Pro 2. The ergonomics are MUCH more in line with an XBox controllers, down to an Xbox controller fitting inside the hard shell case that the KKP2 comes in (the bottom half, anyway. The hard shell won't close around it). If you're willing to give up some of the creature comforts of the 8BitDo software and the back paddles, you'll find that it has all the features of turbo buttons, sensitivity tuning, gyro controls, waking from sleep, and even a macro recording function built in, plus it has NFC for Amiibo compatibility.
But the KK2P seems to have bad input delay tho.
@@Big.Catto512 I'd be interested in looking into it. The only mention of bad delay I've seen is Nintendo Life mentioning the motion controls aren't very good in Splatoon, but I haven't come across anything definitive at least in RUclips reviews when I was doing my research. And I've basically quit playing Smash so I'm not playing anything super sensitive with it at the moment. Any reference you have on it would be appreciated!
@@RocketSlug I don't know, I'm still scratching brain on deciding between KingKong or 8BitDo..
@@Big.Catto512 Oh in case you're still debating between the controllers, the Gulikit input delay issues were fixed in a firmware update. Got my Bluetooth Ultimate controller in hand and it's just as excellent as the Gulikit. You really can't go wrong with either unless there are specific features you want from one or the other or there are certain ergonomic nitpicks you prefer
@@RocketSlug Cool, good to know, 👍 I bought the KingKong but I haven't try updating it yet using their software.
The “wake function” works by shaking the controller. It’s a feature that they added and they’ve mentioned in Q&As! It’s just a bit of a different way that isn’t obvious at first to turn on the switch
I'd say it's all the opposite. That's how we've been waking people for thousands of years.
Do you just shake it out of the blue or press then shake? Planning to get this.
@@Dsaberz I believe it’s just shaking in general no need to press
You just convinced me to pick this up.
I've had an official pro controller for right about 5 years now, and I think its one of the best purchases I've ever made for the switch. Even though mine is still in good condition, I've been kinda wanting something new just to shake things up a bit. I've heard a lot of good things about 8bitdo, but have yet to get one of their controllers. The included charging dock pretty much sold me on this controller (as well as it being white, to match my OLED model). :D
8bitdo's controllers are great in general, I'd not be surprised
You forgot to mention the Hall Effect sensors. That's a HUGE feature and makes a big difference in both the lifespan and reliability of the controller. I'd love to see you bring this up so people won't overlook such a key feature!! Might be trading in my Pro Controller to get one of these.
Whats hall effect sensors is? And when its nots official pad, often durability issue, waht do you think about this?
but for my pc, this pad seems wonderfull.
@@Olivier.Colonna-Comedien Hall Effect sensors for the joysticks uses magnets to detect movement of the joysticks. This is better than compared to traditional joysticks since traditional joysticks has friction between the contact part and carbon film material, which results in wear and eventually drift. Whereas since hall effect sensors don't have physical contact with the magnet, which means that it doesn't physical wear and drift.
@@jonathannguyen1471 Excellent , thanks for answer. a
nd this pad works with steam? Need to synchronise in each connexion to the pc?
@@Olivier.Colonna-Comedien should work just fine with PC!
Please no more accessories for the Switch…I have too many! “Maybe just one more…?”
I’m right there with you😂😅
commenting like a npc day 12
Same, brother😌
@@prixtn Why does typing with grammar in this generation = your a "npc"/"🤓"
@@Jeno_Sinatra it's not about the grammar
For $70 I really wish they had included NFC as well, especially since the Gulikit does have NFC. Other than that my only other complaint would be no X-Input over Bluetooth on PC, just the dongle. If they could allow it via an update later, that would be amazing.
What is x input
I would LOVE to see a side by side comparison video between this and the GuliKit King Kong Pro 2. Both of them seem like the new Switch titans as far as controllers go
My only issue with it is no HD rumble. I'd love to have a controller with paddles that I can use for Splatoon 3, but I rely heavily on the nuanced haptic cues that the game provides.
yeah, HD Rumble is definitely the big tradeoff compared to going with Nintendo 1st party. It is the one thing I miss, but everything I get in return is worth it for me. Just gotta swap over on occasion if HD rumble really matters for a specific title hah
Splatoon 3 uses hd rumble? I'm like 200+ hours in and haven't noticed
@@leftovernoise you'll notice if you use a controller that doesn't have it lol
Wow. No HD rumble? No sale for me.
All Nintendo needs to do is make a pro controller with paddles and that's it.
One weird thing about the controller is the way it interacts with Splatoon 2/3 very specifically. Since the entire game's camera is built around the gyro (which honestly feels slightly better in this controller than the Pro), Splatoon uses a lot of subtle HD rumble which means this controller translates it to classic rumble - this causes the camera to essentially rumble when you're swimming through ink and whatnot - I can't tell if I like it or find it disorienting but it doesn't quite mess up the gameplay. If the rumble for the controller can be toggled down in intensity though, that might totally alleviate the issue, I haven't messed around with that yet!
THANK YOU for mentioning that the USB dock acts as a USB extender/passthrough for the dongle. No other reviewer has mentioned this, and I wanted to know.
I'm kind of mixed on this because I liked being able to potentially replace an aging rechargeable battery easily on the previous 8bitdo offerings so the controller actually lasts into the future when the built in rechargeable battery eventually goes bad in some few years or so. But you get hall effect sticks on the bt+2.4g version, which is an interesting tradeoff.
I'm still probably going to go with the Pro 2 in the future but I really want to see hall effect analog sticks and triggers become a mainstay so people don't have to worry about potentiometer-based wear and subsequent drifting caused by that wear.
Tbf I've never had any potentiometer based joysticks have drift apart from on the extremely flimsy joycon sticks. It's a nice improvement but not a must have by any means
My day one Xbox Elite controller has a tiny drift on the right stick, probably just needs cleaning inside.
@Dorgesh your experience wont be the same as the entire community i and millions of others have had pretty much every potentiometer based conttroller that we have owned get drift its not a rare occurrence
Loving the Ben Rector background music
I already have, and really love, my 8bitdo pro2. Not for switch so much (I'm happy with the 1st party pro control, and I've already got a charging stand for that which also keeps my spare joycons charged), but the pro2 is the main control I use with my steam deck while docked. Despite having no complaints about the pro2, I am sorely tempted to pick this up as a replacement. It looks great, and I'm a sucker for charging docks - they keep controllers topped up and give them a discrete place to live so you never have to fumble around looking for them.
Y'know what I want to see in a multi-system controller? LED face buttons that change their symbols to match whatever system you're using. How often have you been told to "press x" and momentarily forget that the "x" the game refers to is "y" or "a" or whatever on your controller?
I’ve been using the controller for about a month.
I replaced joysticks in 3 of our joycons and they’ve already started acting up intermittently which is frustrating. I replaced the joycon sticks about a week or so before getting this controller.
I’ve had zero issues out of it. I love that I don’t have to worry about drift.
I have large sized hands so I wish the controller was just a smidge bigger. But it is comfortable enough and my kids ca ln use it no problem.
The profile setups are nice but I haven’t figured out how to map the back triggers for profile 2 and 3. Currently only profile one has the back buttons mapped.
Lastly, the back triggers have to travel very far to activate but that’s easy enough to correct by increasing their sensitivity.
All in all, I love this controller and will use it for just about everything I play except maybe smash bros.
Mine is coming today. I am pumped. It also has Hall Effect joysticks that are the same ones from the Gulikit KingKong 2 Pro. I have that controller and it is pretty darn good as well.
I know Nintendo isn't planning to drop the ZR ZL convention, but I at least wish they could move the Z's to the end making it RZ and LZ, that way controller itself could use an ambiguous font where it didn't matter whether it's RZ/LZ or R2/L2 since they'd look the same.
Being able to replace the internal battery with AA batterys to me, seemed like a dead controller issue. Instead. I see it as a way to replace them with rechargable AA batteries, while a in-comtroller chargable battery is nice, batteries dont last forever. Being able to change the battery into easily sourceable standered AA means the controller will last longer, My 2000-and-something Wiimotes are as good as they were from the factory as dont suffer from battery decay due to them being easily replaceable.
I've watched several reviews of this controller recently, and you're the first one to mention the USB pass-thru for the 2.4 receiver. Awesome!
Me ten seconds after watching this video: Mommy! I know what I want for Christmas!
I just bought a Nintendo Switch and I'm really liking it so far, some of the games I've bought for it are SMM2, Mega Man 11 and I'm also able to play NES and SNES games which I'm really loving so far. I just bought it last week so I don't have that many games but I will eventually get more games for and will get SMO2 (Super Mario Odessey 2) whenever it comes out.
I have the wired version for Switch/PC and love it. I would definitely get this wireless since the Pro controller d pad is hard and not soft.
Have the wired series x /s version. If they would put the hall sensor sticks in it i would buy it again.
I'd say the Hall effect joysticks are a huge part of the user experience. No mention of them? So many have suffered stick drift with this device, it's a huge, if not the main, selling point.
8bitdo are awesome. I still use their Bluetooth dongle adapter for my switch to use controllers from different platforms.
Kind of really blows that the wake up function only works if you're connected through bluetooth and not through the dongle that's included. unless someone else can confirm it works for them?
Been tossing up between the Pro 2 and this model. My main gripe with the Switch Pro is the dpad, so curious if either model is better for mostly dpad-focused games in your opinion.
But, in my heart I'm waiting for the day they'll slap on the M30's Saturn-style dpad onto a pro controller. A man can dream.
this also have Magnetic Hall Sensors from Gulikit so the durability for your sticks is way better than other controllers on the market atm. this is by far the best 3rd party controller out there. it's also my Switch and Steamdeck Go to controller.
This is the biggest reason I want this controller tbh. It's hard to choose between this or the Kingkong 2, but I know how good 8bitdo's D-pads are.
@@obvfw ivw heard from different channels that the feel of the kingkong pro2 isnt as great as the plastic isnt the best quality. i decided to get this one and i could not be happier, built quality is amazing and the macro is pretty deep! you cant go wrong with 8bit .
@@Quiqueleal85I don’t really agree. I hate the rough texture of this controller; the KingKong 2 feels like a dream in comparison. The D-Pad isn’t as good but it’s still miles better than the Switch Pro so can’t complain. I think the Wii U Pro/GamePad still have the best D-Pads out there
To turn on the switch, press the heart button then gently shake the controller. Works like a charm 😊
I got my unit yesterday. My main complaint is compatibility wise this controller is a massive step back compared to 8bitdo's previous models. Previous controllers had 4 modes and you could use them as you saw fit. With this controller, PC and android can only use it in Xbox mode with the 2.4ghz dongle. This makes it annoying if you want to use it with a tablet or laptop, since you can't use the Bluetooth built into the device, and since you can't pair it as a Switch controller you can't access the Gyro. When you try to use the bluetooth on a PC it constantly disconnects and shows up as an unknown controller. Additionally people how found that many devices, like the Steam Deck, don't work with it at all either via Bluetooth or 2.4ghz. Which is crazy as both Xbox and Switch first party controllers work completely fine on the Steam Deck.
My secondary complaint is that they didn't include height adjustable sticks, or at least incorporate the mechanism and sell them as an addon, like Guilikit does. This could have been the ultimate "elite" controller if they added that. Now if you want hall effect for the no drift and smaller deadzones, you have to pick between a Gulikit controller, which has the adjustable sticks, or an 8bitdo ultimate, which has the paddles.
Ngl the best pro controller for switch is the power A Nintendo switch Pro controller with 4 back-paddles, switchable faceplates, different length sticks, rubberised grips and very nice triggers. Has wired and wireless. Also has gyroscope and built in audio jack. But doesn't have rumble. (Also comes with case) solid £90.
The sticks are amazing and claim to have fixed the drift issue
….$69 Noice, honestly price makes sense technology wise that’s good, and the controller looks and sounds worth it…my wallet won’t be happy but my gameplay might!
I want to see you do a review on joy cons that are made from a third-party company that have magnets in it that does everything Nintendo genie look almost identical
just might! always grabbing more and more Switch stuff to try out and cover.
I'm not mad about it, its a Multiplatform controller (but I think they sort of differed off nintendo and leaned more xbox a tad too much to kill the actual pro controller) I still love the controller though!
If I'm not mistaken, the controller dock also acts as a usb passthrough for the dongle.
Will they ever make an Xbox version of this wireless controller??
I would love to see a video that compares king kong pro 2 with this controller. They are the only two controllers in the market with hall effect sensors. I just want to know which one feels better on hand
I started useing 8bit's controllers cause I am a Switch and PC gamer and they were all convention for keeping paired to both these platforms specifically without needing to re pair. But this controller is just nice.
In my case I leave the Dock plugged in to my PC, keeping the 2.4hz options for my PC and then I keep the Bluetooth mod paired to my Switch.
How is the latency on Switch? I've heart the Pro 2 had really bad lag on Switch so I'm concerned
Was waiting for this review to come out before purchasing and I think you've convinced me to go ahead and buy it!
Got it for $50 since our store had it confused with the 2.4g wireless for a day.
It's pretty nice, hefty and the grip is 👌 tho I suggest buying a grip for the analogs cause they smooth af
Can you compare this to the Gulikit King Kong Pro 2? It also uses Hall effect sensors for the joysticks, while using more of an XBox controller form factor.
Great preview! Any chance you do a follow-up for those hall-effect sticks? Would be really interesting to see if it's possible to reduce the dead zone compared to the regular Pro Controller. Would be great for FPS games...
Hi Kevin, can you do a comparison video to the gulikit king kong pro 2 ??
I love 8bitdo and I have no doubt this is an excellent controller... but I kind of feel like a little of the magic is gone as they seem to have moved on from their retro inspired designs. I still love my SN30 Pro and can't imagine I'll be switching anytime soon. I love the aesthetic, the travel friendly form factor, and as I have small hands it fits perfectly in my grip. It's my primary controller and I imagine it will continue to be for awhile.
I still like they're going this route though. And it's probably for the better, they can't keep maintaining their business on the niche of retro styled controllers. They certainly can still produce them but they have SO MUCH potential to being an excellent well rounded third-party company
And I think this controller is going to take off, not only it's starting to get competitive against the first party options. But there's a big chance that due to it's success that we may be able to see bigger and better controllers in the near future
Although personally I would also prefer if they made a refresh of the sn30 line with the new Bluetooth from this controller so fix most of the latency issues. And I think this controller is the perfect gateway to that
I think that they wanted to cover retro until they started becoming the best modern controller, and now they want to do either just modern controllers or both.
You missed a big detail that makes these so much better for just general use, it has Hall Effect Joysticks, which use magnets to ensure that Stick Drift will never occur. It's one of the major features of the device since a lot of other brands still use the crappy old style sticks at this point. I think even the $50 ones use it too, but they lack Gyro controls.
White Elite controller 2 with a Brook Xbox One SE that plugs into the bottom is also a good solution and all I've been using for the switch.
How does 8bitdo knock it out of the park everytime for these controllers, with so many options and nice build quality. I think it is the most versatile 3rd party controller we have for switch.
is it better than Gulikit King Kong 2?
I think it is the biggest form of flattery that every top controller copies the xbox controller design/form factor
One thing I've always been interested in with controllers like that is if on PC if those back buttons are independent buttons by default? Ever since I got used to the grips on the Steam Controller I've been a big fan of this option on PC as it lets you easily use the grips as modifier buttons or multi button presses for whatever you're doing. Like for example if I'm use a primarily keyboard and mouse game on the steam controller I'll often put shift and ctrl on the grips as they can easily be held while operating the face buttons and the trackpads. They're also good for mode shifting where you hold down the grip and temporarily switch some buttons to another action layer or action set. If the back buttons can only mimic face buttons then you lose that functionality. I know Steam has some enhanced drivers for the Xbox elite controllers but I'm not sure they'd work with something like this, and to be honest I really would like this being done by default on PC. (Though there's lots of things I'd like by default on PC. Like having gyro as part of the xinput standard so I can stop having to emulate a PS4/PS5 controller to get analog triggers and gyro.
Finally main controller for both pc AND switch. I game on both pc and switch and switch between them back to back pretty regularly so controller like this would be perfect.
I bought an AfterGlow pro controller the other day for a party, but it suffered drift out the box lol. Excited to give this one a try!
What was that about connecting the charger dock to the Switch dock, and using 2.4 signal?
I wonder if it fits the Fixture? That would make this a must buy for me.
Bro... you didn't mention the "Hall Sensor" technology. Seems like an edit is in order. For those who don't know, the Hall sensor all but guarentees you won't have a problem with stick drift.
This may sound dumb, but hd rumble has become a huge feature for me.
Nintendo makes some games that take it into account, but more importantly, all sony games that are being released on pc have the ps5’s rumble config.
And for some reason the Magic Mayflash supports it.
So whenever i play spiderman, horizon, god of war or any game that has haptic feedback, my pro controllers can pick it up from my pc, and the difference is huge.
So much so that between that and battery life i almost never use my xbox one controller anymore
So excited for this. My only gripe is I want four buttons on the back so I can have them all for face buttons. I'm very used to using all the paddles on my xbox elite controller, and I'd love to have that same option on the switch while having the quality of an 8bitdo controller.
I hope they upgrade the pro 2 controller with the hall effect joysticks.
It includes the dongle, that makes it a no brainer for people like me that don't have it, and also means I get to use some controllers that I have lying about on the switch, or on PC If need be, I'm completely sold
You Have to press the home Button and after that to shake a little bit the Controller.
And the consoles goes on.
Spawn wave showed that.
Its a bit weird But if you know how it works every time.
Does anybody know what the snapback on these controllers is like? If its good then I would be sold on this controller.
The dongle is amazing for smash tournaments! You don't need to worry about syncing and leaving it synced to someone else's switch but still get the wireless experience (which while slower than wired, has gotten fast enough that I don't notice on official pro controller). The thing I'm wondering about is the input lag and the reliability. All 3 of my 8bitdo controllers (2 sn30pro 1 pro2) have an issue where after a certain, shrinking length of time where they'll just stop working. Wired somehow accelerates the issue to a point where I've stopped using a wire entirely and I've bought a pro 2 wired hoping it was a QC issue, then I had to return it in 3 days because of this issue appearing in less than 12 hours of play. I really like this controller and want to get it but if this issue persists, I'm probably never going to buy an 8bitdo controller again.
On the other hand, it’s not great for casual smash. You can just bring a pro controller to a friend’s house to play. With this, you need your controller, and your usb connector (or your controller is useless). Maybe even a USB hub if others are bribing wired controllers (in particular, game cube controllers as well).
@@username4835 but you can always use the bluethooth mode?
@@Jan-vp9qt Exactly, which is why I love the dongle so much, it allows the option without hindering it's use at all. Did you even watch the video @User Name? You can totally just use bluetooth mode and it acts just like a pro controller.
Yeah I can't really see any reason to buy this over my Pro 2. I don't play a ton of Switch so my Xbox Elite 2 already does everything this does and more for most of my gaming. When I'm not feeling that the Pro 2 is a nice change, although the stick tension is a bit less on there than I like.
Will this pair with a macbook air as well? 🙂 I'd love one controller I can carry around for both my NSW and MacBook air
Second review I've seen on this, and while I'm tempted to grab this to replace my old partially busted Pro Controller, I still haven't heard a single thing about the motion controls that's included which is a make or break deal for Splatoon.
Can't say I'm a fan of the pricing though, on the US store it's basically even with the Pro Controller but on the Canadian store its $170 and I can't see any way that's justified. It'd be nearly $50 cheaper if I decided to buy through the American site, but that still ends up being a good $30 more than a standard Pro Controller I could grab locally. It sucks because I've heard nothing but good things but there's no way I can justify spending that much money on a controller, especially when I have a hard enough time justifying getting a normal Pro Controller as is.
If I've got a ton of money to burn I'd consider it but until then I don't think I'll be picking this up anytime soon unfortunately.
Would definitely consider one if I didn't already own like 5 switch controllers. Hall effect joystick are probably the best feature as it wont drift in the controllers (and probably our) lifetime!
I was sold by the back paddles on the Pro 2, and now I'm gonna have to save up again to get this one because my Pro 2 is starting to drift.
For players who intensely use the L3 and R3, for example for playing Apex Legends, mapping those keys to the back paddles will help you in the long run because you won't be repeatedly putting pressure on your thumb joints. Trust me, I've lost my left from pressing L3 so much. LOL. There is a constant dull pain on my left thumb joint now, it feels weak and hurts more even from just lifting a glass of water.
Damn bro touch grass
it also has Hall Effect Sensor thumbsticks!
How about using this as a primary PC controller? Can I bind back buttons as a separate buttons or they can only copy/mimic input of face buttons?
for a competitive game like Splatoon 3, i'm curious if the gyro for this works as well as the pro controller. A lot of 3rd party controllers just don't work as well as nintendos so if this worked as well I would definitely make the switch.
My ultimate gets here later today, and Im def gonna use it for Splatoon 3. I have a pro controller too that I'll compare it with. The gyro on my sn30 pro 2 works great for Splatoon. So I would imagine this is at least the same if not better
@@leftovernoise so how has it been so far?
@@jumiku5365 I absolutely love it. Gyro feels really good to me. Slightly different feel than pro controller but not in a bad way, it's really smooth. Controller ins incredible all over. Amazing feel and built quality, the app works great. Ridiculously happy with my purchase. Played about 5 hours of Splatoon 3 with it yest
I have it and the only thing stopping me from giving it a 10/10 is lack of high quality rumble once you have felt hd rumble you can't really go back
JUST BOUGHT ONE!! cant wait for it to be delivered 😭 i dont really play games but i do collect controllers and this one had been in the list for such a long time. loooove the clean design, colours and charging dock. hopefully it worth the price
I always found the d-pad to has a pig problem with latency.
The that I don't have to worry about stick drift (something the Switch Joysticks are infamous for, and a word I didn't even knew before the Switch came out), makes the cost of this worth it, plus it includes a charging station which the Switch Pro controller does not
Just got mine today. My first impression is that if feels very cheap overall, and more importantly, L and R don't spring back into place well. It's not so bad that I want to return it, but I can't help but feel disappointed.
My pro controller is starting to drift so I honestly might pick this up although might also just wait for the next Nintendo console’s pro controller and use the joy cons until then
Having a place to store your dongle is NOT a dumb little detail, it can totally be a deal breaker if I have the choice
You sold it to me! I hope it doesnt get drift sticks, i am gonna buy it, nice review man!
Got to get one of these to replace my third-party Chinese controller which works perfectly well I just don’t care for the stiffness of the D pad or the buttons plus the thumb stick seem to have a larger than normal dead zone.
All my research points to this being the 🐐 of Nintendo switch controllers 🎮🏆
Need an input lag test to see if it's just as laggy as Nintendo's own official Switch Pro Controller. that thing has been tested and confirmed to have around 12ms more lag than the Joy-Con's. And believe me, you can feel the difference between the two. In-game characters feel a little heavier and less responsive with the Pro, as expected.
I could be wrong, but I doubt this 8bitdo Ultimate is going to be any better than the Pro in this area, probably worse actually.
I wonder how it's gyro stacks up against the Pro as well. Bummer about the lack of 'HD' rumble too. :P
what' s the best controller alternative with the best input lag?
@@adrianofrusteri1718
Hopefully Nintendo's Next Pro controller for Switch 2. :P
Seriously though, no idea. Depending on the game, some times I'll use the official(Splatoon 2) pro controller, or bounce back to the Joy-con's(paired with the controller grip) for less latency. 12ms less, confirmed and tested. ;)
I wish i could get rid of the joy-cons, because they're just straight up garbage, but they come in handy if you want snappier/more responsive controls for 2D platformers.
I think I read somewhere that you need to shake the controller for it to wake the switch (as opposed to just pressing the buttons)
Interested in how this compares to the Gullikit Kingkong 2 Pro! Would love to see a video about that one next
Finding old weird madcatz controllers or accessories would be a interesting video to!!
Kevin flexing with their xenoblade chronicles 2 pro controller
I have the official Switch Pro controller for my Switch Lite and I'm happy.
8bitdo is my favoured 3rd party controller maker besides hori. Excellent quality and haptic. Please put the hall sensor sticks in the wired version of the ultimate for series x/s. Instant buy. ☮️
I definitely like the location of that capture button because I am ever accidentally hitting the capture button thinking can I hit the minus button
This controller seems really cool and I kinda wanna get it just to play around with it. I like the two extra buttons on the back. If only it could do Amiibo and had electromagnetic joysticks.
Yeah, I'm sticking with the Nintendo Pro Controller. Some of those compromises are too much to deal with compared to having something that already feels great and just works right out of the box.
Does it have the same old rubber pads under the buttons? I've kinda gone through a few 8bitdos controllers cuz they rip in time.
The only reason I'll keep using my SN30 Pro+ and Pro 2 controlles is the removable battery. Previous batteries that 8BitDo included with their controllers simply died on me and I can't accept that with a model that won't allow even a proprietary replacement.
That charging stand is really sexy, wow.