The problem with Cammy is if punk doesn't exist, she'd have no (or little to no) chance of winning evo. Tell me who else other than punk that make top 8 or top 3 consistently with Cammy at a supermajor international (not invitational)????? None
This is what also had me confused in the season 2 balance patches and just destroying her spin knuckle vs projectiles. When you gave Aki the ability to go through them meterless, and now Bison's ability to go through crap like Rashid's Lvl 2... Are there dominant top Cammy players in JPN? Because I don't see why OD SK had to be changed all the way to 9 frames before projectile invuln when 5-6 makes a lot more sense for a 2 meter cost IMO. Just disheartning as someone who tried SF6 as the first traditional fighter to try hard at, and picked Cammy because she felt good, but didn't seem good enough to get targeted by a big nerf bat. I don't get it.
I'm picking Problemx. I feel like alot of people will struggle to learn the Bison matchup mid set. Plus Bison's damage output is so ridiculous that he can end rounds quicker than alot of characters, and punish little mistakes.
@@voe6589 appreciate this a lot! I always tell myself I should stream but tell myself I should just record for RUclips instead. Definitely want to get into streaming consistently soon
Low chance for Luke, almost every pros drop Luke, he is just a T2 character in S2, even CW skills are awesome, there is only one great Luke exist, quite difficult
It's less that Ryu as a character is straight up bad, it's that the people capable of winning a tournament like Evo who would be good with Ryu just use Akuma or Ken instead
@@MikeyDLuffy akuma has less hp and ken doesnt have the burnout pressure or damage ryu is capable of. Ryu could be argued as better than either character, Im not saying he is but theres no reason for him to be in "capcom please balance" tier
They nerf Luke 2MP so hard but did not give him a "hit confirmable, block safe heavy attack" when playing neutral, this make Luke need to take a lot of risk if he want to have great reward
@@MikeyDLuffy Best 2MP? Bison and Akuma laughing, Ryu and Ken smile like a kid, Juri do not agree with it, Blanka say are you kidding with me etc If it is still the best 2MP, there wouldn't be so many pros drop this character, and the usage rate of Luke wouldn't drop from 10% to 4% 2MP work as a "hit confirmable, block safe heavy attack" in S1, but in S2 it is just a so so 2MP compare with so many T0/T1 characters, this button is ok but no very good, and it is easier to punished compare with other shoto Luke rely so much on his 2MP, after 2MP get nerf so heavy, he is such a mediocre character in S2, he become a well rounded character who do not have anything exceptionally well, the buff like DDT is close to totally useless
@@computervision557 all of those 2mps are similar range and 6 frame startup, but only one of them is + on block, Lukes. What about any of those makes you think they are better than Lukes? They didn't drop him because of that, he lost a lot of damage and his jump ins are worse, all while and a new shoto came out who is better, Akuma. "hit confirmable, block safe heavy attack". Not entirely sure what you mean by this, but how did this change? Not a single 2MP you mentioned earlier is + on block while Lukes is, so it's still the safest. They didnt change the window he can cancel it. They just made it easier to whiff punish for the opponent. It's literally up to you as Luke to whiff it.
@@MikeyDLuffy Most pros do not drop Ken but drop Luke explain a lot he is a T2 character, not good enough for competition anymore. If Akuma really so damn strong compare with S1 Luke, even Ken players will drop Ken, but the truth is Ken players still using this busted, T0 character. Stop treating Luke as a T0 character, he is not. If CW really win the tournaments, please give him the respect he worth, he is using a T2 character in S2 >but how did this change? This change a lot, now Luke do not have a high reward, hit confirmable button when playing neutral, 2MP in S1 do so many things. Now 2MP is not a great button to deal high damage, it is still good for corner carry and close range pressure, if you want high damage, you need to rely on the lottery button--5HP >but only one of them is + on block I believe most of the pros would agree to nerf this +1 and bring back the hit box and the damage from S1, this is not the best strange of his 2MP, his 2MP were so great because of the hit box, the range, and the damage. This 2MP + 1 do not solve the most serious weakness of Luke, he do not have enough of ways to get in, to get "easy oki" like the T0 characters like Ken, Akuma. This is why the best Luke play defensive in S1, because Luke is not a great rush down character. 2MP with higher damage and better hitbox, better attack range matter most for an honest character like Luke, in most of the times he is playing honest neutral game
@@computervision557 I won't lie man, I stopped reading after "not good enough for competition anymore". Bonchan just came 2nd at an incredibly stacked DreamHack summer and Mena and Chris Wong are still playing Luke too. He has done fine at the literal top level competition. If you're going to exaggerate because your character became honest instead of being in a tier of his own, it's not worth discussing.
Never trust a single world coming from Ken main.
Ken is the greatest
The problem with Cammy is if punk doesn't exist, she'd have no (or little to no) chance of winning evo. Tell me who else other than punk that make top 8 or top 3 consistently with Cammy at a supermajor international (not invitational)????? None
Nobody. Mfs act like she tippy top tier because of one player. Please
This is what also had me confused in the season 2 balance patches and just destroying her spin knuckle vs projectiles. When you gave Aki the ability to go through them meterless, and now Bison's ability to go through crap like Rashid's Lvl 2... Are there dominant top Cammy players in JPN? Because I don't see why OD SK had to be changed all the way to 9 frames before projectile invuln when 5-6 makes a lot more sense for a 2 meter cost IMO. Just disheartning as someone who tried SF6 as the first traditional fighter to try hard at, and picked Cammy because she felt good, but didn't seem good enough to get targeted by a big nerf bat. I don't get it.
@@Kade503 At least Cammy has set play now with hooligan, but it's still unnecessary to nerf her SK.
@qoharjamalhaqy526 There's a French Cammy that's pretty good who trains with Valmaster and Mr.Crimson.
such a great channel. keep it up :)
@@angelmints appreciate it 😁!
Enjoyed the vid, BB been playing some Bison too
I think he mentioned on twitter that he's going to focus on Rashid for Evo, but I'd love to see the BB Bison at evo.
I'm picking Problemx. I feel like alot of people will struggle to learn the Bison matchup mid set. Plus Bison's damage output is so ridiculous that he can end rounds quicker than alot of characters, and punish little mistakes.
do you stream on twitch or just youtube? really enjoying the content so far would love to sub up 👍
@@voe6589 appreciate this a lot! I always tell myself I should stream but tell myself I should just record for RUclips instead. Definitely want to get into streaming consistently soon
@@MikeyDLuffy You’re an excellent teacher so if it’s ever been a thought you should definitely try coaching some viewers.
Im putting my money on Verix against all players at EVO
Ken, Akuma, Luke, Blanka, juri
the rest of the cast is not allowed to win evo
Low chance for Luke, almost every pros drop Luke, he is just a T2 character in S2, even CW skills are awesome, there is only one great Luke exist, quite difficult
@@azizkash286 Rashid and Cammy got some demons maining them
@@MikeyDLuffycammy ain't winning anything, too unstable and get buttfucked by gief
ryu downplay must end
It's less that Ryu as a character is straight up bad, it's that the people capable of winning a tournament like Evo who would be good with Ryu just use Akuma or Ken instead
@@MikeyDLuffy akuma has less hp and ken doesnt have the burnout pressure or damage ryu is capable of. Ryu could be argued as better than either character, Im not saying he is but theres no reason for him to be in "capcom please balance" tier
Other shotos have better toolset for aggression which the game rewards despite the buffs I think hes the weakest shoto.
I got gachikun
@@loganmadface5425 Same. Him and Punk are my top 2
@@MikeyDLuffy would love a punk win
They nerf Luke 2MP so hard but did not give him a "hit confirmable, block safe heavy attack" when playing neutral, this make Luke need to take a lot of risk if he want to have great reward
@@computervision557 it went from the best 2MP in the game nerfed down to now being.. the best 2MP in the game
@@MikeyDLuffy Best 2MP? Bison and Akuma laughing, Ryu and Ken smile like a kid, Juri do not agree with it, Blanka say are you kidding with me etc
If it is still the best 2MP, there wouldn't be so many pros drop this character, and the usage rate of Luke wouldn't drop from 10% to 4%
2MP work as a "hit confirmable, block safe heavy attack" in S1, but in S2 it is just a so so 2MP compare with so many T0/T1 characters, this button is ok but no very good, and it is easier to punished compare with other shoto
Luke rely so much on his 2MP, after 2MP get nerf so heavy, he is such a mediocre character in S2, he become a well rounded character who do not have anything exceptionally well, the buff like DDT is close to totally useless
@@computervision557 all of those 2mps are similar range and 6 frame startup, but only one of them is + on block, Lukes. What about any of those makes you think they are better than Lukes?
They didn't drop him because of that, he lost a lot of damage and his jump ins are worse, all while and a new shoto came out who is better, Akuma.
"hit confirmable, block safe heavy attack". Not entirely sure what you mean by this, but how did this change? Not a single 2MP you mentioned earlier is + on block while Lukes is, so it's still the safest. They didnt change the window he can cancel it. They just made it easier to whiff punish for the opponent. It's literally up to you as Luke to whiff it.
@@MikeyDLuffy Most pros do not drop Ken but drop Luke explain a lot he is a T2 character, not good enough for competition anymore. If Akuma really so damn strong compare with S1 Luke, even Ken players will drop Ken, but the truth is Ken players still using this busted, T0 character. Stop treating Luke as a T0 character, he is not. If CW really win the tournaments, please give him the respect he worth, he is using a T2 character in S2
>but how did this change?
This change a lot, now Luke do not have a high reward, hit confirmable button when playing neutral, 2MP in S1 do so many things. Now 2MP is not a great button to deal high damage, it is still good for corner carry and close range pressure, if you want high damage, you need to rely on the lottery button--5HP
>but only one of them is + on block
I believe most of the pros would agree to nerf this +1 and bring back the hit box and the damage from S1, this is not the best strange of his 2MP, his 2MP were so great because of the hit box, the range, and the damage.
This 2MP + 1 do not solve the most serious weakness of Luke, he do not have enough of ways to get in, to get "easy oki" like the T0 characters like Ken, Akuma. This is why the best Luke play defensive in S1, because Luke is not a great rush down character.
2MP with higher damage and better hitbox, better attack range matter most for an honest character like Luke, in most of the times he is playing honest neutral game
@@computervision557 I won't lie man, I stopped reading after "not good enough for competition anymore". Bonchan just came 2nd at an incredibly stacked DreamHack summer and Mena and Chris Wong are still playing Luke too. He has done fine at the literal top level competition. If you're going to exaggerate because your character became honest instead of being in a tier of his own, it's not worth discussing.