Ryan not only immediately figuring out the guy was cheating, but also immediately finding the gap in the script with Jinrai is one of the funniest things I have ever seen.
Not gonna lie I giggled a little when someone in the chat said “that’s what you do against Cammy players too” when you said about testing the bot’s script
There's a JP in the replays who wrecked him and may not have even known the guy was cheating, because it turns out the bot sucks at knowing to block high vs. overhead fireball!
@@OfficialCrowMauler It can react depending on the spacing and the character the cheater is using. In this case, the cheater was using Akuma who has a move that can go through projectiles. But if the cheater was playing a character that doesn't have moves to go through fireballs and went up against a JP, the JP player could abuse the cheater's script by mixing up his normal fireball and the one that hits overhead because if it autoblocks for him, it'll probably default to crouch block and cause him to keep getting hit. Unless the cheater realizes what's happening and changes the autoblock to stand block. In which case the JP could start throwing low fireballs. Hoped that explained it a bit.
@@satoshinakamoto9597 i don't think i've ever encountered a cheater but I'm not master rank + i can't discern subtle cheaters from skilled players that well
If they’re not spaced properly, you can jab them in between the end of jinrai and the next low medium kick. If they’re spaced properly, the pushback will eventually push you out of range and when Ken walks forward to continue, you can take your turn back. Invincible reversals also work in between the first and second hit of the jinrai kick.
@@davidclout6286 nah more like silver. maybe a modern gold. But gold players last year were def better than the ones this year lol (speaking from my experience facing off against some of the diamond players on a new character this year and watching friends in gold playing against their gold rank opponents)
I don’t think anything could be more poetic to watch than seeing a cheat script be helpless under the might Ken Jinrai. The best authors of our time could not come up with something as absurdly ironic as this, it is Ken’s greatest contribution to this entire game
Legitimately i dont understand fighting game cheaters At least in other games you can fly around, have crazy abilities, wallhacks Fighting games youre just letting a robot play the game for you
@@riotstamp Damn people aren't allowed to admire and set role models without it being glazing now. You must not have had one yourself. I feel bad for you.
@riotstamp unironically using the term glazing on someone making a genuine compliment is the saddest shit Ive seen today, and I just watched a cheater on SF6 video get downloaded and whipped. Stay classy(pathetic).
If the cheat programmer starts having to program special cases for every character with a teleport or gimmick, they basically will have programmed an entire list of notes players could study to just learn the matchups instead.
You are a bolder fellow than I to attempt that safejump at the end. My guess would have been that less robust scripts would just go for DP anyways on the safejump, and since you were on sliver and burnout it would kill anyways even when blocked. Well played, well played.
One thing you didn’t mention is that against a lot of scripts you can whiff your fastest total duration non-cancelable move at fullscreen and then whiff punish the auto-DI. Usually that isn’t proximity based because the script writers are lazy and DI generally has longer range than anything it can punish so it won’t matter against normal gameplay (like when you are actually trying to hit people with moves instead of exploit a cheater’s script against them).
my theory is that the cheat was bound to super meter, because he needs a response when he doesn't have any meter also extra evidence when he is being combo'ed the cheat still tries to DI the fireball motions
The influx of cheating in every game is actually insane, I play a variety of games (Rainbow, SF6, Destiny, GGST, etc.) and in pretty much every game now there is a huge number of cheaters.
This reminds me of those "buster only" runs for like mega man or like "no jump" mario challenges Sacrificing almost all your tools and having to work against the machine
I do think if it was just like an experiment, like a tournament of just these bots or whatever trying to out cheat each other, I’d watch that. Like Fighting Game BattleBots. But going into ranked like that just seems pointless and a waste of everyone’s time.
@@Shiratto i mean it makes sense right, my little pony doesnt make any distinction between ponies and horses and the context they exist in makes you associate the word pony with child, child pony = foal, pony = word for foal. human brains, right?
Yeah I think it's meter based too. I don't think the bot will let itself drop below one bar in case someone somehow gets it in a checkmate style situation with burnout DI against the wall.
@Joseph-cx4eg could be, for some reason everyone doesn't acknowledge this possibility. Semi random cheat activation is what will make these cheaters nigh undetectable soon, especially if they vary timings
Holy ****** I played against this guy under the name Akuma King! I distinctly remember thinking "Wow this guy might be cheating", but never really dove deeper. Just logged in now and blocked him. Good on Broski for not only identifying the cheat, but finding a way to beat him anyways. Godly.
I don't think the drive rush check was proximity based. If I'm watching the video correctly, I think it's actually based on the amount of meter he has. When at 2+, he used super, but below that it was DP and crouch MK.
I guess this wouldn't actually work since the 5f start up of a command grab is probably long enough for an auto-jump script. I wonder if this actually exists, a script which automatically jumps and punishes command grab attempts
@@El-Burrito saw a video of xuses(yep the replay channel guy) playing against this same akuma on twitter, and someone in the replies posted a page with all the cheats for sale and a command grab jumping one was on there
If this game was properly balanced, you wouldn't have to worry about cheaters. Why not either make all the characters good, bad, or average. Stop making some characters top tier, and others weak. It ruins the game.
@@Arctanis-vt3hl Wouldn't do anything. The cheater didn't win because Akuma is "broken" he won because of the mechanics the game provides. Street fighter 6 is pretty good right now with balancing, but if someone has a cheat that allows them to perfect parry every hit that match is pretty much unwinnable. You could replace any character with Akuma and it would have been the same just without the tatsu, shoryuken and Hadouken. And plus literally every fighting game out right now has top tier characters and low tier characters and you can win with them all, it's been like that since fighting games have been and things and will remain that way.
You know behind this curtain there's like an Iron 3 player who simply doesn't have the time, patience or sheer persistence, determination, strength or will to go through the pain of getting good at a fighting game and deeply resents those of us that did.
My god, a perfect round against a cheater 😂 Broski’s epic comeback was great but seeing that guy not even able to damage someone with all his cheats is priceless
Hey, the first round was spent attempting to adapt. It's not easy to figure this kind of stuff on the spot. The idea of the video is to encourage people to poke for flaws in the cheat algorithm, it's not made as a step-by-step guide, since at the end of the day every cheater's script is different
Thanks for confirming my suspicions that I wasn't insane fighting a cheater this morning. The exact same thing happened to me. Sadly I lost because Bison doesn't have many ways to counter that shit, and I never thought about strategies like this. But I'm glad I'm not totally insane LOL. Some real loser shit
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Ryan not only immediately figuring out the guy was cheating, but also immediately finding the gap in the script with Jinrai is one of the funniest things I have ever seen.
I think we watched the second game between the two, so we don’t know how quickly he adapted, but it’s hilarious anyways
Fantastic
And also farming the cheater for MR like a legend. Never blocked him.
To be fair, i don't have to cheat to get annihilated by jinrai like that
@@Talol-sandwich42I also don’t have an answer for jinrai 😂😢
"jaeger, how did you deal with that cheating bot?!"
"what cheating bot?"
im ded
hahhahahah
Not gonna lie I giggled a little when someone in the chat said “that’s what you do against Cammy players too” when you said about testing the bot’s script
Nobody expects people to lie, why does everyone say this?
@@Agent101g Alright Jerry Seinfeld fit it in your next standup special, sandwich it between two “everyone’s too woke these days” rants
I didn't get that one, do Cammy players act like bots?
A lot of low end players play Cammy. So when you fight them there is a very good chance they just don’t know how to deal with a sertan tool.
@@Galacticbraindentist "What's the deal with Cammy players?"
*Laugh track
Three ways to beat this cheater:
1. Be goated like Broski on AKI
2. Be a modern player
3. Play Ken
It doesn't react to projectiles either just keep firing hadokens and you will see them keep getting hit
There's a JP in the replays who wrecked him and may not have even known the guy was cheating, because it turns out the bot sucks at knowing to block high vs. overhead fireball!
@@psp785
I don’t play fighting games but wasn’t it reacting to Aki’s fireballs?
@@OfficialCrowMauler it was... they don't know what they are talking about clearly
@@OfficialCrowMauler It can react depending on the spacing and the character the cheater is using. In this case, the cheater was using Akuma who has a move that can go through projectiles. But if the cheater was playing a character that doesn't have moves to go through fireballs and went up against a JP, the JP player could abuse the cheater's script by mixing up his normal fireball and the one that hits overhead because if it autoblocks for him, it'll probably default to crouch block and cause him to keep getting hit. Unless the cheater realizes what's happening and changes the autoblock to stand block. In which case the JP could start throwing low fireballs. Hoped that explained it a bit.
You can tell Ryan Hart's been around the block long enough to know how to beat arcade cpus that would do anything to steal your quarters.
snk input reading bosses we're training for this
When he was talking about how the cheats worked I was like "that's exactly what the street fighter 2 cpus do" lol
Cheating at a fighting game is the most pathetic thing I've seen in a while.
I would rather stay at a low rank than cheat. I don’t see the point.
No different than cheating at any other game.
@@roncrudup2110 Definitely no point to cheat at any game.
@@Arctanis-vt3hl That's right. It's all equally pathetic.
Ty for showing his steam id hopefully he gets a vac ban
The Jinrai loops killing the cheater were so funny.
He's just like me, fr
That Ken clip should be put in a museum
tu aqui?!
Master alucard my beloved
THAT'S Ryan Hart for you, NOT "THAT KEN"
John Henry beating the machine
At the end he started mashing sweep or something i laughed my ass off. How can you lose cheating
Unironically, akuma is probably the character who would despise this guy the most
Ken downplayers real quiet after seeing that not even a (horrendously flawed) cheating script can beat jinrai
"sweats nervously"No idea what youre talking about.... *Whistles away still nervously*
In my defence I'm not actually good enough at the game to do that
@joojpaulo if you lose to a jinra spammer, you are the enabler.
"Multiple game bans on record | Info 635 day(s) since last ban" - from the cheaters steam profile lol.
You can see games people been banned from on steam? How?
@@ONealskey7 VAC bans get put on your profile if you were banned for cheating before.
@@Monokai I'll look at it. That's great.
stop being such a snitch
@@billybadass3056Stop being such a whiny baby.
On top of modern, Lily’s extra range pays off against perfect parry scripts. He tried to grab her but was too far away so the level 2 punished.
"Multiple game bans on record | Info"
Turns out "The Deadly Moon" has multiple game bans on their Steam account...what a shock.
Can you link his Steam profile? I'm curious to see how it looks like
@@JOHNATANMCSPACIMM its a private profile but you can see his steam id at the start of the video
PC. I have been away from PC gaming since 2005 due to cheaters and hackers. Now it's 2024 and cheating/hacking is still there. What can I say.
There’s many players like that guy, smurf accounts …..you name it. Online everyday taunting and tea bagging.
@@satoshinakamoto9597 i don't think i've ever encountered a cheater but I'm not master rank + i can't discern subtle cheaters from skilled players that well
The Ken I played yesterday must think I'm a cheater, because I also do not have an answer to Jinrai
If they’re not spaced properly, you can jab them in between the end of jinrai and the next low medium kick. If they’re spaced properly, the pushback will eventually push you out of range and when Ken walks forward to continue, you can take your turn back.
Invincible reversals also work in between the first and second hit of the jinrai kick.
I am convinced broski actually thinks in slow motion
i think its the other way around but i get it😭
Losing with cheats is already bad but getting PERFECTED oh nah homie. That's just sad.
It's good entertainment for us tho!
I could also watch hours of Ken Jinrai'ing a bot. That was gold
Gold is probably the rank that guy would be in without cheats too
@davidclout6286 I'm a gold player and with how scared that guy looked I think MY AKUMA could beat his ass 😂
@@Kirbyz07nice said mate, we may be low rank players but damnit we play with honor
@@davidclout6286 nah more like silver. maybe a modern gold. But gold players last year were def better than the ones this year lol (speaking from my experience facing off against some of the diamond players on a new character this year and watching friends in gold playing against their gold rank opponents)
Funny thing, I noticed the SiRN Akuma during that event also didn't have an answer to Jinrai spam 🤣
I don’t think anything could be more poetic to watch than seeing a cheat script be helpless under the might Ken Jinrai. The best authors of our time could not come up with something as absurdly ironic as this, it is Ken’s greatest contribution to this entire game
17:20 "look at the state of ..." is my favorite British colloquial expression
Legitimately i dont understand fighting game cheaters
At least in other games you can fly around, have crazy abilities, wallhacks
Fighting games youre just letting a robot play the game for you
Win's a win
@@HellecticMojono it isn’t
@@HellecticMojo no its not
@@HellecticMojolitterally gain nothing from it
@@badtzkoala8345 except wins, which is what they ultimately care about.
Don't let your moral outrage cloud the basic logic center of your brain.
Broski learning to counter cheating in basically one round its crazy
I hope one day to be as good of a player, thats awesome
the glazing is crazy
@@riotstamp Damn people aren't allowed to admire and set role models without it being glazing now. You must not have had one yourself. I feel bad for you.
@@riotstamp Yeah man. Its totally "galzing" to want to be as good as one of the best SF players in Europe.
HE'S ONE OF THE BEST IN THE WORLD, WHAT GLAZE@@riotstamp
@riotstamp unironically using the term glazing on someone making a genuine compliment is the saddest shit Ive seen today, and I just watched a cheater on SF6 video get downloaded and whipped.
Stay classy(pathetic).
To be honest the bot struggling to deal with Ken Jinrai Kick is damn near indistinguishable from how it looks when a human is dealing with it
Ive never laughed so hard at a fighting game in my life, the perfect KO made it even better.
17:42 I love how he's blocking him on top of a game where he got blasted 2-0 by ToiletTerry69.
I think that might be foxy granpa, an MK player lol
If the cheat programmer starts having to program special cases for every character with a teleport or gimmick, they basically will have programmed an entire list of notes players could study to just learn the matchups instead.
You are a bolder fellow than I to attempt that safejump at the end.
My guess would have been that less robust scripts would just go for DP anyways on the safejump, and since you were on sliver and burnout it would kill anyways even when blocked.
Well played, well played.
You’re a proper beast for working all this out in real time man. I wish we could see this guy’s reaction after you beat him.
Its amazing this is man vs machine. The skills of pattern recognition and adaptation working against scripts.
And the dumbest cheater in SF award goes to this Akuma, a king of the pathetic losers.
Who knew the answer to cheating would be freaking modern
My favourite part of this extremely entertaining video was listening to mild-mannered Broski just unloading a dump truck of invective on this cheater.
Ryan with the quick expose.
One thing you didn’t mention is that against a lot of scripts you can whiff your fastest total duration non-cancelable move at fullscreen and then whiff punish the auto-DI. Usually that isn’t proximity based because the script writers are lazy and DI generally has longer range than anything it can punish so it won’t matter against normal gameplay (like when you are actually trying to hit people with moves instead of exploit a cheater’s script against them).
a cheater getting cheesed by jinrai kicks is hilarious
my theory is that the cheat was bound to super meter, because he needs a response when he doesn't have any meter
also extra evidence when he is being combo'ed the cheat still tries to DI the fireball motions
The influx of cheating in every game is actually insane, I play a variety of games (Rainbow, SF6, Destiny, GGST, etc.) and in pretty much every game now there is a huge number of cheaters.
Bro cheating in video games is lame. These people are losers.
This reminds me of those "buster only" runs for like mega man or like "no jump" mario challenges
Sacrificing almost all your tools and having to work against the machine
Love this comparison, cheers
All the twists and turns of this video are so good. First modern Lily, and then the venerable Ryan Hart. This is great
I do think if it was just like an experiment, like a tournament of just these bots or whatever trying to out cheat each other, I’d watch that. Like Fighting Game BattleBots. But going into ranked like that just seems pointless and a waste of everyone’s time.
Reminds me of Alpharad's cpu tourney series
@@all-starsilver1835 Yeah, it's kinda like that too! I had forgotten about that. Man, I loved that. Or VGCW back in the day.
Imagine being so good at this game you don’t even lose to cheaters. Broski diff
There needs to be a full blown documentary on cheaters in online games, I want to see these people, they have to be totally bizarre.
His steam account has „multiple game bans“💀💀💀
Capcom should really do something about these cheaters.
I guess it's quite hard to catch automatically, since the game itself is not modified
Did you know that ponies never grow up to be full sized horses? Thats pretty messed up
Damn, that's fucked up. I genuinely had no clue that Ponies were a type of horse, genuinely thought they were just another term for a foal 😭
@fozz1437 Wait...with that pfp you never looked deeper into the origins of the term?
@@Shiratto i mean it makes sense right, my little pony doesnt make any distinction between ponies and horses and the context they exist in makes you associate the word pony with child, child pony = foal, pony = word for foal. human brains, right?
@@elfpi55-bigB0O85 Fair enough I suppose
Ah, finally... fucking Jinrai does something other than make me cry.
this is so fucking funny, especially the ryan hart matches
Imagine paying full price for a game just to not play it
Great work on picking that up so quick, and then beating him. Good call out.
I had my suspicions that there were auto DI cheats. Thanks for confirming!
i do find it funny that these people so blatantly cheat when replays are public and fairly easy to catch
My theory is that the automatic level 1 super only activates when he has at least level 2. But yeah maybe you were just lucky
Yeah I think it's meter based too. I don't think the bot will let itself drop below one bar in case someone somehow gets it in a checkmate style situation with burnout DI against the wall.
At 8:57 he had level 2 but didn't do the super, so that's probably not it
Maybe it just does random checks as a stealth measure?
@Joseph-cx4eg could be, for some reason everyone doesn't acknowledge this possibility. Semi random cheat activation is what will make these cheaters nigh undetectable soon, especially if they vary timings
Holy ****** I played against this guy under the name Akuma King! I distinctly remember thinking "Wow this guy might be cheating", but never really dove deeper. Just logged in now and blocked him. Good on Broski for not only identifying the cheat, but finding a way to beat him anyways. Godly.
The modern agenda stays strong
Wow! I know that this was frustrating to play against, but you did a great job of figuring it out and finding a way to win!
Ryan Hart deleting that bot with Jinrai loops is the most Ryan Hart thing I've seen this year
your detective work is outstanding.
Broski beating a cheater (basically God) is proof that the indomitable human spirit is real.
Well done, bro! You are the justice of SF6!
The sheer, unprecedented level of vitriol that Broski summons to talk about this loser is impressive and well-deserved.
Love this video brother earned a subscriber
@broski 😂😂 reminded of that episode of yugioh when he used Revival Jam's own effect to defeat Slifer The Sky Dragon
for a second i thought this was going to be an anti-akuma guide
The script doesn't have an answer to jinrai because jinrai is better than using cheats.
Omg thank you. I never realized you could cancel drive rush into OD snake step. Would have saved me so many losses.
“It doesn’t have an answer to Jinrai”
Just like me fr
Love this type of content Broski! I had played a gold Gief that would auto DI in response to my DI - frame perfect first frame - sus
God I will never tire of watching cheaters in video games getting their cheats turned on them it's so good
I'm impressed how this guy analize it and adapt with it.. i would just finish the match holding forward or doing nothing and then ban immidiatly
jarvis, activate my perfect parry script
I don't think the drive rush check was proximity based. If I'm watching the video correctly, I think it's actually based on the amount of meter he has. When at 2+, he used super, but below that it was DP and crouch MK.
nah, at 9:52 he has 2 bar but he HK as a check
@@HellecticMojo Dang you right. I thought Broski had a button behind the drive rush but watching it again, there's nothing.
I put this in my own comment but I think it's health based. Both times it starts happening Broski is on a slither of health
i feel like this is a full on bot not even a person guiding the character. kinda like tool assisted in sf5 before they banned the bot
The part with jinrai kicks drove me crazy 😂
we learned that Modern are the real cheats in this game 🚬 /s
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Cheaters are the best reason why grapplers should always be top tier (Im joking, but only slightly).
I guess this wouldn't actually work since the 5f start up of a command grab is probably long enough for an auto-jump script. I wonder if this actually exists, a script which automatically jumps and punishes command grab attempts
@@El-Burrito saw a video of xuses(yep the replay channel guy) playing against this same akuma on twitter, and someone in the replies posted a page with all the cheats for sale and a command grab jumping one was on there
wouldn't the cheaters just use the grappler character
If this game was properly balanced, you wouldn't have to worry about cheaters. Why not either make all the characters good, bad, or average. Stop making some characters top tier, and others weak. It ruins the game.
@@Arctanis-vt3hl Wouldn't do anything. The cheater didn't win because Akuma is "broken" he won because of the mechanics the game provides. Street fighter 6 is pretty good right now with balancing, but if someone has a cheat that allows them to perfect parry every hit that match is pretty much unwinnable. You could replace any character with Akuma and it would have been the same just without the tatsu, shoryuken and Hadouken. And plus literally every fighting game out right now has top tier characters and low tier characters and you can win with them all, it's been like that since fighting games have been and things and will remain that way.
To be fair, I think most of us also lose to Jinrai spam... But it is especially cathartic to watch it happen to someone who deserves it 🙂
This is why Ken is top tier. He even has a built in meter less option for cheats
heck yeah Ryan Hart
11:37 WWHHHUUAAAAAAT?????
Only time I'm happy seeing Jinrai spam. 😂
This video was so funny. I've never seen Broski so heated haha
these kind of people are the only ones where the "ez noob" is accepted to use on
i wonder if a bot would react to jamie's command grab input if the jamie did the input while under 3 drinks
Random fun fact: you could react to the level one with Manon’s ex spin too
That guy's cheats is exactly how the street fighter 2 turbo cpus behave. Anything you do immediately get countered.
Played against this guy yesterday. He was Diamond 5 then. Knew something was fishy.
Watching the script try to auto-DI mid-air and mid-combo is hilarious. These cheaters really do not even TRY to hide it.
love these videos!
Bold to call yourself “Akuma King” with peasant level gameplay.
You know behind this curtain there's like an Iron 3 player who simply doesn't have the time, patience or sheer persistence, determination, strength or will to go through the pain of getting good at a fighting game and deeply resents those of us that did.
Jinrai kicks are stronger than cheats.
Therefore Jinrai kicks are the final boss of cheats
My god, a perfect round against a cheater 😂
Broski’s epic comeback was great but seeing that guy not even able to damage someone with all his cheats is priceless
Harada!! Fix your shiet.oh sorry..Capcom!!! Fix your shiet!
"How to beat a cheater" *proceeds to get absolutely demolished and wins with luck*
Hey, the first round was spent attempting to adapt. It's not easy to figure this kind of stuff on the spot. The idea of the video is to encourage people to poke for flaws in the cheat algorithm, it's not made as a step-by-step guide, since at the end of the day every cheater's script is different
Watching cheaters getting fucked up by Jinrai is my version of ASMR
Broski’s win against this dude was incredibly satisfying. 🔥🙌
Junrai kick spam fucking got me wheezing
It way to funny how modern input screws up cheats
Thanks for confirming my suspicions that I wasn't insane fighting a cheater this morning. The exact same thing happened to me.
Sadly I lost because Bison doesn't have many ways to counter that shit, and I never thought about strategies like this. But I'm glad I'm not totally insane LOL. Some real loser shit
Funny that you and xuses both caught this person