Are Hybrid Cars Worth It: Ford Fusion Energi Review
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- Are hybrid cars worth it? I've been living with a Ford Fusion Energi for the past 3 years and break down the numbers, and compare it to other cars like the Chevy Bolt, Nissan Leaf, and Toyota Prius. And with the Tesla Model 3 on the horizon (I'm picking one up this week), are hybrids worth it anymore vs gas cars or electric cars?
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I picked up a pre-owned Ford Fusion SE Hybrid and I adore it. I get fantastic mileage and haven't had any trouble with it whatsoever.
Took your advice and bought a low mileage 2019 Fusion Hybrid for my daughter yesterday. I'm amazed a car that size can get anywhere near 40mpg.
@@KrustyKlown I just bought the same model last week.
I have zero complaints.
From reading a lot of comments I believe I made a good buy.
My wallet already thanking me for gas savings
The ford fusion hybrid is basically a Toyota
I have a Ford Fusion Hybrid. I'm almost at 200,000 miles and the check engine light has never come on. Still drives like new. The original brake pads are still good. It's the single most reliable car I've ever had. I can see it easily reaching 500,000+ miles, no problem
@@tarstarkusz charging an EV just seems like a hassle still. And the range isn't quite there just yet. I was considering a RAV4 Prime as a vehicle to camp with and go on long distance road trips, but the more I think about it the more I would lean to just the hybrid version instead of the plugin. I read somewhere that the majority of people with plugin hybrids never plug their car, they just use gas.
Update on my Ford Fusion hybrid: now at 248,000 miles. Still on the original brakes, check engine still hasn't come on. AC ice cold like the day I bought it.
@@tarstarkusz well, idk what to tell you apart from the fact that I have never changed the brake pads and every time I rotate my tires I check them to make sure they are not worn out completely. They have close to a 1/4" left. For context I do not drive like a maniac. I try to always get the most Regen possible (wherever practical, I don't drive like a grandma either) when I slow or stop the car. Always try to be gradual to stop and get as close to 100% Regen as possible. My car stopped showing my electric miles driven because it doesn't go past 99,999mi for electric miles on the odometer, which is amazing considering I've never plugged in my car (since it's just a standard hybrid). It's not uncommon for people with EVs or hybrids to have brake pads last a ridiculously long time. I suppose until you drive one for an extended period of time (without racing all the time), you will see yourself first hand how long brakes last on EVs/hybrids
Yes, it does need new shocks. And also the CX axle boot and tie rod end boots are worn out so those need replacing, but apart from that it has not given me any mechanical issues.
*CV axle
@@tarstarkusz maybe something is lost in translation, but my car's official name is Ford Fusion Hybrid. Hybrid cars here don't get plugged in unless they're specifically the plugin version, in which case they have more battery range. There's hybrid cars, then plugin hybrid cars, then full EV cars. My car's battery gets charged via braking Regen, hence why my brakes last so long. I live in Southern California in the desert with essentially no rust in my car. I'm not one of those people who has the AC on 24/7, I rarely have it on full blast
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Hybrid cars do not get plugged in. Research.
I Have a 2016 Fusion Hybrid Titanium. Best car I've ever had. I have to think about range as many of my business trips are in the 300 mile range. So it's a fantastic car for that. I opted to NOT get the Energi version because I would only get 20 miles of EV and then my car would just be the regular Hybrid version with more weight (an extra row of batteries which also eats the trunk space. Which the regular Hybrid doesn't) Remember it is EXACTLY the same car as a Lincoln MKZ. (A designer from Ford told me that...) So you are really getting a lot of bang for your buck with this car. Comfort, suspension, ride quality etc... If you want more performance, just turn off the ECO button and the thing is a rocket. I've always owned European sedans [BMW, Mercedes, Volvo, Saab]. This is my first American car. And my interest was peaked upon finding that this incarnation of the Fusion was designed by the guys from Aston Martin to compete with the Euro Sedan market. (Which is why the front end and grill design are the shape and styling that they are...) They knocked it out of the park with this car. I am so sad to hear they're going to discontinue this car (here in the US). Such a dumb move... Best car ever. And this is coming from a lifetime high end European sedan owner.
We also have a 2016 fusion hybrid titanium but... We got the Energi. No trunk space like you said and it only gets average 34.5 mpg. It was advertised as getting 95/85. 20 miles in and the electric battery is done unless you go 25 mph or under. I love the car. It is exactly like the MK but half the price.
I have the 2018 FF Platinum Hybrid and I love it. I call it my poor man luxury car. Love this car!
I have the 2017 and love it! Without climate control I get close to 30 miles on a full charge! Dunno about the best car ever... I've got the same gripes as every other owner (short range, small trunk, slow charging, etc) but it's been a great car! If it had the same specs as the Prius Prime I think it probably would be the best car available! My sister has a Lincoln MKC and, as a sporty crossover, I love the way it drives but it cost a lot more and gets half the mileage!
@@davisfamilyfun9583 you are not utilizing the tech right. I get 45.5mpg over 35k miles. It takes 2 weeks for the car to learn your behavior. When you are decelerating on a highway you shouldn't be breaking. You can also hold the pedal down, while slowing down to slow down slower then if you take your foot off the pedal. I've averaged 50mpg on a 100 mile trip there and back to Chicago for 2 weeks straight, 5 days a week, on the highway in the left lane with the flow of traffic. Use the EMPOWER mode to get the best mpg because it's the best Guage to understand the car with. You want to stay a little below 2 notches on the empower to maximize gas usage on the highway. I get thatsloghtly below 2 notch at 55, 61,(49mpg at those speeds with cruise control) and 67 mph. I'll get 43 to 44mpg going 70 to 74mph. Varying speeds from 70 to 90 and deaccerlatong by slightly holding the acceralator down, not the brake, got me 50 mpg to Chicago as mentioned.
Smart choice. Plugin hybrid vehicles are the best for short trips, but if you are doing lots of travelling everyday without the chance to charge the car then it is waste of money. SO, Good thinking :)
My parents gave me their Fusion after getting a new car. It’s great because most of the time I put it in EV and can get around doing that. In Colorado, almost all public chargers are free, which basically means free gas. It’s also great on the highway
Hey I actually got a notification! I have a 2016 fusion and I love it so this is actually really cool.
I recognize that I90 boston landing area at the beginning of the video! Nice to see another Bostonian doing this type of videos! I bought my first ever hybrid vehicle, a 2019 Fusion Titanium hybrid. I absolutely love it and let's be honest there's no other hybrid car that looks this good for the price! Also got 2 Subarus for snow duties.
It’s always funny hearing how many folks are in this neck of the woods. And no kidding on how good the Fusion looks ... no other hybrid comes close to it. It was a very reliable car for me.
I find it hilarious you're trying to convince hybrid buyers to go full EV.
i'm still trying to convince people to even CONSIDER a hybrid, let alone an EV, and I'm failing miserably.
jbn675478 just bring up mpg
@@brandonbartlett5667 efficient ICE don't fair too much worse with highway miles. So if the person is primarily a highway driver MPG isn't a selling point. Would take a hell of a lot of savings to recoup the much larger upfront costs.
I'm currently looking into getting a hybrid myself because I do a lot of city driving. Might even get a EV with the backup gas like a Prime or Volt.
@@brandonbartlett5667 Just don't mention repair costs. Maybe over the life of the car it's about a wash, but the fixes unique to hybrids tend to be pricey enough that you're sidelined or spending months paying that off. Even a reconditioned battery is running about $900 now. New can be $3K. You can make multiple, significant repairs to a gas-only vehicle for the cost of replacing a battery in a hybrid.
Again, maybe it's ultimately a wash. But those hybrid fixes are more apt to really hit you hard.
Great video Matt. Really informative and looking forward to seeing your Tesla updates soon
With gas prices at $6 a gallon those hybrids make huge sense now in June 2022!
I bought a used 2015 Energi just over 4 years ago and it's been great. I probably get the advertised 19 miles of electric range in the winter and about half that in the summer (Arizona). A lot of short trips use no gas whatsoever, including round trip to my previous job. I can get to my current job easily with no gas and if one of the plugin spots they have are available, I can make it back home with no gas and some battery to spare (plus a bunch of miles on the company dime). I've had no maintenance issues and love the way it rides and handles. Like Matt said, it's no sports car and I do miss that, but for what it is, it's quite nice. The interior and exterior are both really nice as well. I think the extra $10,000 price tag is pretty exaggerated. Matt's correct that it's that much more than a base Fusion but what's missing is that the Energi comes with the Titanium (premium) package at a minimum. My car has pretty much every option available for the Fusion except the adaptive cruise control. So that $10K includes a lot of nice features and not just the powertrain itself.
We just bought an Energi. We picked it up for 30k, that's the fully loaded model. We're getting about 23-25 miles EV. Thanks,
I have a 2014 Fusion Energi SE and love it. All your points, pros and cons are exactly what I tell my friends. Of course, the new Fords have Apple CarPlay, which I wish I had. Have fun with your Model 3! I wish I could afford one, but I’m likely to keep my Energi for another 10 years or so.
Thanks for watching! Nothing wrong with keeping the Energi. It’s a good, reliable car that gets great gas mileage and will save you a lot of money in the long run.
alin84 you can go into any Ford dealership and buy the the CD pop it in and it will update it for you cost $30dollars
@@ChelleBear7 Apple car play is available only on Sync3, and the 2016 and older Fusion Energi has Sync2
We got our Fusion Energi in early Oct 2018. Its my wife's car, she does a lot of short trips. Here we are almost Jan 2019 - we are still running on the dealer tank of gas. We really like the car. Don't forget, the Energi qualifies for a somewhat smaller federal tax rebate and in California - a smaller state tax rebate. These knock down the hybrid premium here by over $7000. I'd recommend the Energi for someone with short local and occasional longer trips. Overall, it is a nice car to drive.
Hello my fellow Brother in Massachusetts, I live in on the outer fringes of what is the Boston Area. I subscribed to you because I love to support people who are more local and closer to where I live. It's nice to see you out here! I am looking to buy a Toyota Prius C. I rent and I don't own property yet, I think a Prius C won't necessarily kill my budget and the build quality may be a lot better than my 2005 Mercury Sable. I like the idea that the engine will not be running all the time and that the regenerative braking will do a lot of work to slow the car down. The repair bills for my current car have been ridiculous over the past few years and the number of times it has been in the shop have been more than I could count. Hybrid cars are "high tech" vehicles, they are anything but simple but, I figure if I buy one that is made by a proven brand with a good track record, I might make out all right. I have never seen a Prius rust out like my current car unless it was in an accident. Yes, a Prius battery might need to be replaced but, I think it may hold up a lot better in the long run than most conventional cars therefore making it a worthwhile endeavor. Efficiency and a car that does the job without me worrying about it, is what I'm aiming to purchase. I hear you about the electric cars but, I don't see it to be practical until I own a house and yes, there is that 436 mile trip up to my home town on the Canadian border that kind of puts me back into the hybrid stuff. I liked this video, I look forward to seeing your future videos. Take care of yourself my friend. ( .^_^. )
Ha! Nice to see another fellow New Englander here. Thanks for subbing and watching. I totally hear you on why you’re thinking of going hybrid over BEV for now. Folks that don’t have a set place to charge at home or work might have a tougher time figuring out a charging routine that works for them. That will get better in time, but you gotta do what best for you right now. The Prius has an awesome track record, so I think you’d be making a good choice there ... and saving a good deal of money on gas.
I’ve owned a CMax Energi and now a Fusion Energi. I’ve found that these cars significantly drop in value the first 2 years. Because of that I bought my Fusion used and that is the only way to justify the economics of this car. I absolutely love my Fusion energy - super value IF you buy used. I managed to pick up a 2018 with only 3000 miles on it for $19000. It was a one owner car with a clean title!!
Have you have any problems with it since?
This comment 1000% Picked up a 2017 Platinum PHEV for less then half original price with 26000 miles. Way more luxury then I'm used to. One owner/no accidents/no rust/full doc history - original owner wanted a Tesla next. Works perfect for my use case of 15 mile trip to work and back. EV just too expensive and not enough long distance trip range.
I bought used as well and have been very pleased with my 2015 Fusion Energi. Daily driving is covered by battery most days. If I'm going farther I'll use the battery for the slower miles and switch to "later use of battery" mode or standard hybrid for the highway part. I get 70 mpg like this for 100 miles and down to about 50 mpg if over 200 miles traveled. I get a half tank of gas (6 gallons) every 3-4 months so it's perfect for my use.
I've been driving GM EREVs since 2013 while my wife has been driving a slightly larger sedan for when the time is needed. Last year we added the Lincoln MKZ Hybrid. Unlike your Fusion, there was no increase cost to the hybrid model in the Lincoln lineup. At 40MPG on the highway (44MPG in the city) we're pretty happy with it. Give it a few years and perhaps we'll trade for a used Model 3?
*Fun fact: the designers of the Austin Martin are the same one’s that designed the Fusion*
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Nice review,and i like the music a lot
The best way to save gas is to live closer to work if that is an option. I could only afford to live 15 miles from my work, else I would live closer. Plus you get a bit extra sleep!
Not necessarily true. I live within 3 miles of my school and it takes me 40mintues to commute every day and I'm out of my house by 6:30
@@alextran8188 how is that possible that it takes so long?
Great breakdown of the numbers and comparison vehicles.
Thanks!
I have a 2016 Ford Fusion energi titanium and I was wondering if the vehicle can run on gas alone
I have a 2011 Fusion Hybrid and after 8 years I still get about 35 mpg. 17.5gal gas tank for about 560 mte. Wish I could make it quieter as the road noise is real noticeable. Door seals might need a coat of something. 165k miles so far with only two front wheel bearings replaced. Drive battery charges well and only had the start battery replaced twice.
I have a 2019 Energi. I watched many other reviews and yours before I bought it. Previously had a Leaf. My mission has changed since I retired, the Leaf was my commute car. Now I am doing a lot of long distance trips. 92.8 mpg is satisfactory for me, on a recent trip in the Energi. The Tesla model 3 is too expensive. Even with today’s gasoline prices, and electricity prices, I am still ahead of the game with the Energi. I hope you have success with your Tesla. I believe the insurance is higher, and the build quality could be better.
Very thorough and well-produced video, as usual! Your videos are a true inspiration :)
I started a sustainability channel with a focus on frugality and I’ll be comparing my plug in, the Clarity, to other EV options. Since the all-E range is about 50 miles, it services my commute perfectly. Since you’ve had both, do you still think the model 3 is the best value given the expanded range of newer plug-in models?
I have a Kia Niro Hybrid, for a year. So glad I went Hybrid, here in TX they are behind as far as EV. I'm looking at a 2010
Fusion hybrid with 139000 miles, they're asking 5800. What do think about it as a 2nd car?
We love our Energi. Dailey trip to work is only 14 miles round trip. No gas used. mpg equivalent 110 mpg when you factor in cost of electricity. Then when we have to go into the city, 120 miles round trip, it gets 45 mpg. Nice looking, economical, fun car. Very satisfied.
2014 Volt: Solid placeholder until a full EV I like comes out.
im on my second ford fusion hybrid the first one i had i loved but i gave it to a family member because it was too high miles since i drive my car for my job as a delivery driver i put 30,000 miles a year on a car so i got my second ford fusion hybrid and i love it
Have had this car for a year and I have to say it has been great during this pandemic, no trips to the gas station and driving to the grocery store and back not using gas and just plugging it in when i get home is the best and is great for sneaking up on people.
That sounds so cool how do you plug it in your house? Ima search it up but i would like your experience
@@jads_so_enigmatic7941 just a normal house plug with provided charger
I drive a hybrid and I take road trips pretty often, therefore a hybrid seems to be the best compromise for now. I plan on getting a Tesla in the distant future, but it’ll be several years before I make that purchase.
I hear people say hybrids are old tech and you should just buy an EV to be more environmentally friendly. But here's something to consider. If the idea is to save the planet by using less fuel, then they should stop wasting batteries in EVs and build hybrids instead......until the supply of batteries increases.
For every electric car built, you could use those batteries to build around 30 hybrids which use ~50% less fuel than a non-hybrid.......that would be like taking 15 cars off the road for every EV that's not built.
You are a smart man. God bless
@@kedduff1814 Thanks, I'll take that compliment. It was just an observation that the lack of batteries is holding back the production of the current EVs, and doing little to reduce the amount of fuel burnt. So don't be too quick to rubbish hybrids.
I wonder if electricity cost was .22/kwh, would it have been cheaper to just run on gas in hybrid mode?
I have a 2013 Cmax hybrid with the same hybrid power plant as the Fusion (smaller battery than the energi) absolutely love it. Planning on a new 2019 RAV4 hybrid when they hit the showroom in the spring. Using the planetary gear set as a variable power split device ( instead of metallic belts and variable sheave pulleys) was brilliant. This was co developed by Ford and Toyota.
I had a 2013 Ford C-Max Hybrid for 4 years and it was great. I loved the power of the C-Max compared to the Prius. I believe Ford and Toyota's hybrid systems aren't co-developed but because they're so similar they co-licensed each other's technology to avoid lengthy lawsuits.
The current 2018 RAV4 Hybrid is pretty brilliant so I have high hopes for the 2019 RAV4 Hybrid. Next year Ford should reveal the 2020 Ford Escape and it's getting a Hybrid or Plug-In Hybrid version, most likely a PHEV. I'm eagerly waiting to see how the new Escape Hybrid looks and drives. I'm curious if the Escape Hybrid will have an electric motor in the rear like the old Escape Hybrid and Rav4 Hybrid or a mechanical drive shaft like the Lincoln Aviator PHEV.
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2019 To 2018 RAV4 hybrid, more power 219hp, better mileage 39/40. The hybrid up charge for 2019 RAV4 is just $800, that's amazing. It was several thousand in my 2013 Cmax (based on Fusion Gas to Fusion Hybrid differential). Rear electric drive is standard on all 2019 Rav4 hybrids! The Dynamic Force 2.5 has dual injection, direct and port, which should help reduce the intake valve carbon deposits showing up on DI engines. If I sound sold, I am, just waiting until they hit the dealerships. I typically keep a vehicle 15 years if satisfied. Currently upgrading from a 2003 Lexus GS 300 Sport Design only has 134k. My only concern was the nickel metal hydride batts instead of lithium ion like the Cmax. After studying Toyoto's battery philosophy I came to agree, lithium ion for Plug-in and EV, nickel metal hydride for straight hybrids. Nickel metal hydride batts are just bullet proof, take a lot of abuse. You want to take in as much energy from coasting and stopping as you can and immediately put it to use the very next acceleration from a dead stop plus a performance boost when you want it like an electric turbo. The 2019 RAV4 hybrid is getting the P710 eCVT coupled to the 2.5 Atkinsson.
My HF35 transmission in my Cmax failed at 59k. New trans $5900 plus labor to remove entire engine/trans, replace trans reinstall complete engine/trans. 2 weeks at dealership mostly waiting on new tranny, not a stock item! Entirely covered by warranty, got a loaner too. The trans got more and more noisy as it ate itself from the inside, loudest when just beginning to shift from positive torque to coasting. My guess on the failure mode was the intermediate transfer counter shaft did not have correct preload (too much) when the trans housings were assembled resulting in galling the bearing/race probably mostly in the first thermal cycle of the trans. Premature wear occurs from galling resulting in accelerated bearing/race wear to plain sloppy fit to no preload and excessive clearance and end play to destruction! It was not a lubrication issue. The problem occurred 2013- to 2015 I think, Ford shifted trans assembly to another site and the problem went away. It affected all Cmax, all Fusion hybrids, and Lincoln MKZ hybrids. If you have an early model I would be happy to talk to anyone with trans noise, don't wait if you have trans noise. Ford was aware the the problem in 2014, there were TSB's issued with corporate instructions to contact owners, I was never notified by my dealer to bring in for check.
You're so right. I actually had 2 C-Maxes. A 2013 C-Max Hybrid SE from new and never had any problems through 70k then traded in. And a 2013 C-Max Hybrid SEL bought used with 22k miles. The used SEL got it's transmission replaced under warranty right after I bought it at 22k mi. It was making a slight grinding noise and I only knew it was a problem because the SE didn't make the same noises. I saw the previous owner averaging 37-39 mpg and after the new transmission I got 42 mpg.
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I kept thinking it was tire whine, actually bought new tires to confirm it wasn't the tires. I bet your used one was traded in because of the noise. I get 38.5 winter 42 summer. My biggest pain is passenger side temperature blend door motor drive, failed at 38.5K miles, failed again now ! Either plastic teeth on gears or electrical slide contacts for position intelligence. Any experience in this?
Charles, I didn't have any climate control problems, we traded both out last year. When it rained hard, it would trigger the front parking sensors on the SEL, easy to just turn it off on those days. And of course MyFordTouch on both would occasionally crash but it happened less after updates in 2015. I have a Focus ST with Sync3 and the system is much, much better.
I enjoy my Kia Optima hybrid. On average in heavy traffic in Chicago I get 35 mpg. And where I live it’s possible to average over 50, without trying much.
Which isn’t to bad considering I’m the first owner and bought it as a demo for 19k and it’s got front and rear heated seats, a/c front seats, heated steering wheel, am fm xm hd navigation radio, hid turn adjusting. headlights and hid fog lights.
Nice features included with your Optima, especially the heated steering wheel for those cold Chicago winters.
I'm leaning towards the Volt with a V. better range and a usable trunk hatch is a no brainer but good that you like your fusion. Good luck with the Tesla.
Please help me to decide my used car buy
Ford fusion hibrid or Toyota prius hibrid 🤔
It's a older video, but great information. I currently have a electric focus, and I absolutely love the car. But however I'm in the market for something I can do 500miles every other weekend or so. The fusion may be a little older, but I do like idea of a plug in hybrid. If I can find one of these I'd love to give it a go
How long will it last if my 22yo son gets the 2018 hybrid version? Heavy foot.
Is it possible 200,000 miles if he gets scheduled maintenance .
I'm a Toyota and older Nissan type.
I did some light research on Ford engines for a school project - you can get about 200k miles without any sort of failure on an EcoBoost engine. The Energi does incorporate the same technology. I own a 2016 Energi at about 29k miles, so all I can say is that its performance has been good so far. I believe that statistic earlier was from 2017, so yes, a 2018 Energi should give you about 200k miles no problem so long as you take care of the car.
What do you think of the Toyota Rav4 Prime, plug in hybrid? They claim 40+ miles on electric then it works like a hybrid.
I drive a 2008 ford escape hybrid. This is the vehicle that ford produced as a green taxi. It typically runs between 27 &28 mpg which is pretty dam good for an suv. Just to give you an idea about how it compares to the regular gas-only model, My last escape was an 03 gas-only and on a good day, made 19 mpg.
i have a 2019 ford fusion hybrid se and i love love it! it’s been awesome for me!
I drive the Ford C-Max SE hybrid . I love the car , and it def has more then enough get up and go when i need the power. and it drives great , and a nice sounding factory stereo system is has in it too .
The Ford C-Max is a great car. When I was I bought the Ford Fusion it was a flip of the coin between the Fusion and the C-Max.
Mine is great and you don't loose trunk space.
Love my Nissan Altima hybrid, but absolutely love my Ford Fusion energi 10 times over!! Deep discounts given since Ford is discontinuing this model. Poor decision discontinuing this model in my experience with the car. I get 40 miles on a charge, and I live in Florida. Love this car. Wish they marketed this car a little better. Getting a roof rack with storage for long trips.
Great video, very informative. By the way, 0 to 60 in 8 seconds was considered high performance in 1990. That was what the Mustang GT with automatic did.
Thanks for watching! And man ... how times have changed.
I want you to do a technical review . Doing the overall numbers on the Tesla model 3 or model S Vs Toyota Prius Prime .
Love this video! You are so friendly
Thanks! And thanks for watching.
I just recently got a 2010 fusion Hybrid and I love it. I think it looks good, feels good, and does fine on fuel ranging between 7-8L/100km in the winter. I do want to go full EV in the future but that wasn't in my price range now (Thanks, Doug Ford), also my current living situation doesn't have easy charging.
Hi, nice video,
I have the 16 Ford Fusion Hybrid, not the plugged in models. It’s been a really fantastic car. I do allot of cross country driving, and didn’t want the headaches of finding a spot to plug in. The car itself has been extremely comfortable and reliable to drive and has saved me thousands of dollars in fuel costs. I have had mine about 2 years, and put over 60K miles on her. She has been fantastic, no issues at all. Yea I also went with Ford for the same reasons you did, I just didn’t like the way the other hybrids looked, and really liked the Aston Martin like look that Ford has done to some of their vehicles. The maintenance I do pay for on her is the routine oil changes, and of course replace basic items due to wear and tear, such as windshield wipers, tires, the cabin filter, those type of things. She is by far the best car, and most comfortable car I have ever owned, and I have driven her from California to New York, and back. And make constant trips from Sacramento down to Los Angeles. A ton of highway miles is on her. No real hard city miles.
Wow! That’s a lot of miles in 2 years. Sounds like it’s the perfect car for you.
How come you saved thousands if you only put 60 miles!!!!
Land Shass
60K is 60,000 miles. Just to clarify. And the hybrid car has saved me from paying more in fuel expenses from its fuel consumption, from using far less fuel. It does get 42 MPG in the city, and 44 MPG on the highway.
Bought a ford fusion plugin 2017 in 2018 Best car I ever had. I usually have to get gas 1 time every 2 months. Unless I take a trip. I"m not much for snow and ice so we go to AZ in the winter. Keeps our mileage on electricity up. Stores are close that helps a lot. Electric is the
future but not just yet.
We have a 2016 Fusion Energi and a 2014 Leaf. Both are great cars.. Enjoy your model 3, i'm jealous!
Thanks! I’ve been delayed twice on my Model 3 delivery, but supposedly tomorrow is the day. How do you like the Leaf?
We love it, my wife drives it mostly and it works well for her commute (45 miles round trip).The Leaf is very much an economy car though, it has more road noise than the fusion does. I work from home, so the Energi only gets used to run up to the grocery store, grab lunch, etc, or when we take road trips. I would love to have a model 3 or a used S even, but as little as I drive, its just not worth the car payment at this time, but it is constantly tempting me!!
The Leaf and Bolt have always struck me as great bang for the buck (I’ve never driven them but have really wanted to try them out). Nothing wrong with economy if it ticks all the boxes for you.
I just picked up my Model 3 today! So my 894 day wait is over (not that I was counting). Videos to come on that little guy.
@@UndecidedMF congratulations! I subscribed. Looking forward to your thoughts on the m3!
Someday all electrics will be the standard. For today I love my 2016 C-Max Energi. It sits up like a small SUV, good power, and I use little to no gas during the week due to the plugin feature, and I can go over 500 miles between gas fills when I skip town. I recommend buying any hybrid 2-3 years old as they coming off lease. I paid half of the new price even though it looks and drives like new. I am not a Ford guy but I love this car.
But what about the cost of insurance does the insurance go up if you buy a hybrid. everybody that does a review does not mention insurance cost. I would like to know how much does the insurance cost. I read somewhere that the cost of insuring it's pretty high for a hybrid car don't know if this is true or not can somebody reply back to this claim?
Good question. It wasn't for me. Insuring my Ford Fusion cost me about as much as insuring my Nissan Altima. And I now have a Tesla Model 3, which actually turned out to be cheaper to insure that either the Ford or the Nissan. In the end I think it comes down the safety of the car and how likely it is to be stolen over being a hybrid or EV.
This video is really good. Very honest. I love my 2018 FF Platinum Hybrid, however buying the Model 3 is a better choice EV wise.
4:10 the advantage regarding re-gen, also apply to hybrids. The difference tends to be that EVs these days will offer different levels of regen, which doesn’t mean it will save the breaking pads more. My previous hybrid had pads in great condition after 80k miles, when the non hybrid version of the same model (less weight) tend to require replacement no later than 60k miles.
Fair point. The stronger the regen, the less you have to ride the brake. Driving an EV now, I really like a strong regen, which allows for one pedal driving most of the time.
Ultimately, full electric vehicles are going to be the way to go. However, I currently have a hard time justifying the extra up front expense on a purely economic basis at this time. I recently leased a Kia Niro Hybrid for 4 years (non plug-in model) since the rebates for plug-in versions just went away in Ontario, Canada. Essentially, there was no price premium in selecting this hybrid vehicle at all, based on it's size, utility, and feature content. A fully load Hyundai Kona (non hybrid) costs more than the larger and MUCH better equipped Kia Niro, and the fuel economy is more than 40% better in the Kia. Go figure! We have averaged 4.6 litres per 100 kilometers, (52 mpg U.S.) since picking up the vehicle 5,500 kilometers ago and several times have exceeded 900 kilometers (560 miles) on a tank of fuel. And the Kia Niro we purchased is the LEAST efficient version due to it's larger tires and higher weight. Since pure hybrids (ie non plug-ins) always run their batteries between about 40% and 75% charge, battery degradation is virtually non existent. Almost 99% of 20 year old Toyota Prius' still have there original battery if statistics are to be believed. My nephew has a 2004 Prius with 420,000 kilometers (over 260,000 miles) on it and that vehicle also has it's original battery. Plug-in hybrids and full electrics are often likely to be FULLY charged and drained considerably lower than 40% range, and batteries just don't like that, hence cell phone batteries which generally fall off in capacity pretty quickly. I DO look forward to a full electric vehicle in 4 years, hopefully with solid state batteries, but for now we're loving our Kia Niro.
In 4 years we should have more affordable EV options out there for sure. Good point on the plug in degradation, but battery chemistry also plays into the longevity. In any case, nice to hear that the Kia Niro is working out for you so well.
Very good news that this hybrid works well for your purposes. Sadly prior US “hybrid” technology was poor. My 2008 Mercury Mariner hybrid, battery still OK, requires the engine to start, barely goes 1mile and in 32 degrees or lower, the engine will hardly shut off to keep the battery warm. As you indicated, hybrids since 3 years ago, depending on brand, are much better. Thanks.
I want to here someone do this in mn. When I drove to work two days ago it was -26 without the wind. And my cousin finally got rid of his hybrid becouse of all the maintenance issues. Wich I see being caused by the many sub zero weather days. His car was even garages. Personally some day I would like to get an electric vehicle. As a second vehicle. Could never get one right now. Could never get my kids on week end. They live 180 miles away
@@robertbeckler5058 curious where are you that you get -26 or is that Celsius. Not sure how cold that is comparatively.
@@UndecidedMF When looking at things on an emissions standpoint an Acura MDX non hybrid with 22 mpg gaining 5 mpg (30%) going hybrid would be the equivilent emissions reduction of a Toyota Prius gaining 44 mpg. That Acura hybrid system only utilizes a 1.3 KWh battery, adds only $1,500 cost to vehicle, and pays for itself in fuel savings within 5 years. Less if you included increased brake replacement lifespan.
Tesla's Gigafactory has a 20 GWh production capacity has enough to ensure ALL 17 million vehicles sold yearly become a micro / mild hybrid with a 1.3 KWh battery pack. When those batteries are used purely for the Model 3 production it would support 266K vehicles to be manufactured.
Which would be better for the environment and the majority of society?
266K Tesla Model 3 owners who most likely previously drove a 31 MPG vehicle combined reducing carbon emissions by 478,800 tons with perception of welfare for the middle class to wealthy..
or
17 million vehicles whose national average is around 25 mpg adding 4 mpg (16%) by mandating mild hybrids at minimum bumping national average to 29 mpg achieving a combined emissions reduction of 11,730,000 tons of CO2.
11,730,000 ÷ 478,800 = 24.498 times difference
Oops I didn't realize this video was years old! I Just got a Fusion Hybrid. Used the price was the same as a gas car and I only have a small step in the trunk for the battery. I live in a hilly area so going to work I get low 30's mpg but coming home high 40's even 50mpg as it runs mostly electric. I think cars like the Fusion are good for people that aren't considering hybrid or an EV. It's pretty much "normal" looking/driving.
Interesting video.
I recently had an Uber ride in a Tesla. Obviously we talked about the car.
The owner wasn't overly impressed with it. He didn't charge at home, used a supercharger near his home every afternoon.
He said the Tesla cost about the same to run as his previous Camry hybrid. But charging it added 45 minutes to his day.
He actually wanted to go back to a hybrid (he was hoping a Lexus hybrid) but was concerned about the depreciation EVs seem to be suffering.
can anyone tell me what mpg the fusion energy will get on the hwy after the battery is depleted going 70-75mph?
How can you deplete the battery? Normal driving keeps it charged
@@JayBlazingProphecy im pretty sure hwy driving will not charge the battery. i think the only time batteries are charged is when you are braking. thats why you get better mpg in the city.
I just ordered a 2020 Energi Titanium! Looking forward to my 100+ mpg in the temperate midwest lmao
Hey I have a 2014 C-Max Energi and I love it I haven’t been charging cuz I am waiting for Ford to have available charge units to replace it under the recall but she does well I go about 50 miles round trip each day with work and all not counting weekends which the car sits a lot usually
I get like 7.6 seconds 0-60 in my car
Nice. Even without plugging in, the C-Max and Fusion both get great hybrid MPG.
My argument on the acceleration is that the torque is instantaneous at a red light. It can chirp the tires from a stop. You’re right about zero to sixty, but it still has nice low-end pickup. On price, I got a huge discount on my 2017 from the dealer. (>$7,500.) Add in tax rebates, and the price compared to the gas only version was even. And, in California, I now get to drive in the carpool lane. It’s a winner all around.
Make sure your ECO button is turned on. It will help with that hot acceleration off the line.
Maintenance savings actually far outpace fuel cost savings for most hybrids and EVs. I really wish that were a bigger selling point, or more commonly known. People forget to consider average maintenance costs when considering new vehicle purchases - it's really one of the top things to be aware of, more so than fuel efficiency in my opinion, since generally efficiency is directly tied to desired characteristics of the vehicle (size, towing capacity, power, etc). Resale value is another bigger one.
What year is this?
Are hybrid vehicles more durable than ICE if you do mostly highway driving? Can they run up more mileage before the car needs to be tossed?
Yes. The brakes on my Ford lasted dramatically longer than brakes on a regular car. The regenerative breaking from the electric motors slow the car down, so the brakes don’t get used as much. Electric motors also have a much longer lifespan compared to an internal combustion engine. A hybrid helps to reduce the strain on the combustion portion of the car. You don’t have to change the oil nearly as much either.
How long does the battery last? How much will it cost to replace the battery when it wears out?
I believe the warranty is 8 years, but it should last longer than that. New batteries would probably be in the $3,000 - $4,000 range, but I haven’t seen any data on recent prices.
I have an Ford Fusion Energi as well. Matt if you want an update your navigation maps, buy the updated SD card with the newer maps. I do that every year. My fusion came with 2015 SD card map (SD card goes inside your middle console) Now I am running the 2018 map. It is not as expensive as it used to. If you don’t mind using eBay, you can get one for 50 USD.
That’s not too bad. I do wish that Ford would include those updates for free with the car, which is something you get included with cars like Tesla.
Had a 2015 Ford Fusion Hybrid Titanium. I was averaging 167 mpg, mostly driving around town. Loved it so much, was planning on keeping it for another 5 to 10 years until I was in an accident that totaled her. So so very sad. I had to find a car to tool around in and decided on a 2017 Volkswagen e-golf. As much as I would like a Tesla, the e-golf is very comfortable and will give me the range I desire for driving around town. Hoping the e-golf will last me at least 10 years.
Nice! Gotta get what works best for you and sounds like you did. Hope it lasts 10+ years too.
running over pedestrians I lost it XD
When I sold my 2015 Volt, I was getting 202 mpg and used only 238 gallons of fuel over 5 years...
Does it have android auto? My 2017 SE had it.
I have a 2015, I agree it's a niche vehicle. It works well for me as I work from home but occasionally travel 2,000 miles to the office. So 95% of the time I am just running errands within 20 miles of home (I live in a very large suburb) and 5% of the time, I am running marathons to Detroit.
So I use no gas most of the time and when I do need to go to Dearborn, I am burning gas at about an average of 41mpg. I have a 2005 Ford Escape Hybrid that I also make the trip with, but it averages only about 30mpg (I usually take the Escape in winter as the Fusion sucks in snow and cold). So for someone like me, who stays in his 'hood most of the time but occasionally needs to circumvent the earth, it makes sense. But it's a niche for sure.
I love the car, but my biggest complaint has to be the (9) recalls to date along with the battery now only holding about 1/2 its capacity after only 3 years and 40,000 miles. Ford basically told me to shove it. So I love the car and will drive it until the wheels fall off, but although I've been driving Fords since I was 14 in 1998, this will be the last one for me. The whole DPS6 thing really speaks volumes to the incredible, mind-boggling incompetence at Ford. If they go under, they deserve it. 10 years ago, I wouldn't have said that in a million years.
Consider that the 2005 Escape Hybrid has a dedicated, independently-controlled A/C system for a Ni-Mh battery of 1/20th the capacity of the FEH. Now consider that the FEH has a Li-Ion battery much denser and larger, and now (for cost savings), there is no air conditioning. It's cooled by the air in the cabin...
...Brilliant! Especially when you're parked in a Phoenix parking lot in August and the exterior temp is 115 while the interior temp is 180. So that "cooling" system is actually heating the battery. Absolutely brilliant engineering. You'd be better off bringing in outside air (like the Escape), but oh no... they cut the blend door from the budget too.
So yes, BEWARE: 40k and 3 years is the useful life on these. Trying to get Ford to even acknowledge it is an exercise in futility. Lately it seems they don't even want to admit they made the car in the first place. Understandably so.
thinking of purchasing this car, and am nervous of people saying their vehicle would just stop working ! any thoughts ?
Never had a single problem with the car and never heard of others with major issues either. From my experience, it’s reliable and saves you money over time ... especially if you’re picking one up used.
Thinking of bringing it back to my Ford dealer maybe they can adjust this thanks for ur reply Merry Christmas
Good call. And have a great Christmas and new year!
I just purchased a brand new energi for about 19k usd in Canada. With gas at about $4 a gallon usd and electric costs around 7 cents usd per kilowatt this car is a no brainer ..... Add in that is gets a green plate so we can use the hov lanes with a single occupant it's even better.
I have been driving a friends 2018 Fusion Energi that is a company car. I commute an hour to another of our facilities and it does great even in the winter on snow and ice it's very solid. I have a friend who also has a 2018 Fusion Energi and we take it long trips to Boston. We have gone down a few times. I am blown away by the mileage. We get over 50 miles per gallon and sometimes over 75mpg. My wife and I have been driving a prius that gets around 50mpg...but the Ford Fusion Energi is much more comfortable and better driving. The car is responsive and VERY comfortable. I like not having to worry about range. I am big 6'4" and 275lbs. The car is VERY comfortable for me. I like it so much I just bought a 2018 Fusion Energi with 20,000 miles on Carvana. I think it is one of the best engineered cars ever created.
I have a 2016 Fusion Energi and I am saving 100.00 a month on gas. I bought is used for 16500 and I also get free charging at work and sometimes charge at home to get really good miliage. I wish the that the batter size would some how give us 200 miles pre charge though. :-)
I always tell people that you need an electric or hybrid car that matches your lifestyle. For example, I very rarely do more than 20 miles per trip in my day-to-day life but I occasionally do a very long, 150-200 mile long trip to my in-laws. So completely electric vehicules were out of the question. I also didn't mind the small trunk space but I can see how it could handicap some people. Nonetheless, the technology is getting better and less expensive. The future of automobiles is electric and it's coming up very fast.
Definitely. With more EVs showing up with ranges between 250-300 miles, you’d be covered too if you have a good place to charge while at the in-laws.
Matt i just bought a 2015 Fusion Energy for 15,700 in Sept with 32,000 miles love the car the only point as u reveled was the battery charge unit that open when driving thinking i thinking never closed it well i did its a bit annoying like the gas outlet has a release required on the console Ford should have done the same with this issue traded in a 2016 Fusion Se for this great Ford car
That’s a great deal you got on the car! It’s so strange why they cheaped out on the charging port door compared to the rest of the car.
Missed this earlier.... interesting video. I definitely agree that hybrids served a role when battery ranges were still somewhat limited for cars other than the more premium priced Model S and X.
Now, however, with cars like the Model 3, larger battery Leaf, the Hyundai’s Ionic and Kona, Kia’s e-Niro and so and a so forth, I really struggle to see the point of a hybrid - except perhaps as a comfort blanket to people struggling with severe range anxiety to realise how far they can get even with the much smaller batteries in hybrids.
As you saw in the video, I agree for the most part. However, there are edge cases where a hybrid still makes sense for some. Especially if you live in an area that doesn’t have good EV charging infrastructure yet. Those gaps are narrowing quickly, but they are still there in some areas.
Undecided with Matt Ferrell
That’s probably fair, but I still think it’s mostly about anxiety. I might even have sympathised a bit more until earlier this summer when I spent a three days driving around 1000km with a long range Model 3 in Finland, where the public charging infrastructure is sparse at best (unlike Norway, there have been no incentives to buy EVs and little impetus to expand charging infrastructure as a result) - despite only having 7 superchargers in a country the size of Germany and most other public charging options consisting of one charging unit (with CCS, Chademo and Type 2) at a gas station or super market parking lot, the 500km range of the Model 3 meant there was never an issue. It’s easy to forget for those that have never driven an EV that you can charge wherever you have electricity - even if it’s only an overnight charge with a regular 240V 13A plug.
So unless you routinely need to make 500+km trips in a place without rapid chargers (which are getting fewer and farther between as the rollout of charging infrastructure continues), you don’t really need a hybrid - it mainly serves as a crutch for range anxiety.
But like you say, maybe those that drive plug-in hybrids over time become more comfortable with electric as they realise how much range they get from even smaller batteries.
@UndecidedMF Have you looked at the Liquid Piston engine?
Should compare current model with incentives vs current electric cars. Current fusion has cast play and apple compatability. Makes infotainment system slowness an afterthought
I can understand that. But up here in ontario where were 4.75 to 5 bucks a gallon on average hybrids make much more sense.. Expecially plugins.
besides the cost, the only reason why i wouldn't get an electric car right now is because I'm afraid I'll forget to charge it or something and so the next time i drive it and it only has a few charge left, that I'll get stranded somewhere
and there's not THAT much charging stations. Only some malls and some workplace but not most.
I’ve got the ‘18 Camry hybrid, as I’m rural it’s the perfect answer. 49.5 mpg, only 1.2k extra for the hybrid, 600 mile per tank and a flat trunk. As almost all of my trips are 50 miles or more this is the perfect solution. Just not quite as pretty as the Ford.
I have a Ford fusion hybrid and I love it.
I loved my Ford Fusion Energi.
I'm looking at a 2019 right now for budget. Is there anything you don't like this far into ownership? How is it holding up mechanically? Any insight is appreciated, thank you!
What’s the color of this one?
I just bought a 2014 fusion hybrid and it’s a great car. My only concern is having to replace the hybrid battery. It’s got almost 100,000 miles on it so I hope I don’t have to do that anytime soon.
Im getting a 2016 with 106 miles on it and I have the same worry. Did you have to get a new hybrid battery and do you know around how much they go for? 🙏🏽
@@jepg6696 I actually didn't get to that point of having to replace it because it was destroyed by hail earlier this year and the insurance totaled it but before it was destroyed it was at 150,000 with no issue whatsoever so you should be good. Refurbished batteries are just under 3 grand but a new one will run you 5 grand. Depending on your financial situation, if it ever goes out, it might be worth it to get a new car at that point.
You are going to have no trouble accelerating up the motorway on-ramp in the Model 3, I look forward to your impressions.
Thank you Matt for explaining all pros and cons . Actually I really would like to buy a Ford Fusion 2017 energy titanium . But as
I go deep and reading about the car it's kind of making me hesitated, because of slow acceleration at high speeds and I'm reading many reviews regarding the mechanical issues, plus the reliability rate for Ford Fusion is 3/5 in US CARS . What is your idea about the mechanical issues?
I had zero mechanical issues with the car in the 3 1/2 years that I had it. Worked reliably and got great gas mileage. As for the acceleration at high speeds, it is a little on the slower side there. If you really punch the accelerator, the gas engine kicks into overdrive to get extra electricity running to the motors. The result is a little lag, but it will pick up and get going ... just a little slower than a typical car.
I had this exact same sentiment about acceleration when doing my research on this car. All I can say is, go and test drive it. The acceleration felt fine and honestly with the energy coaching system, the car has taught me to be a better driver, rather than just slamming that accelerator when the light goes green.
Exactly. Day to day I didn’t miss not having crazy fast acceleration, and I also so my driving technique get better because of it. There are the more rare times though were some extra boost comes in handy for pulling out onto a busy road or merging with traffic. When that happens, you kind of wish there was a little extra punch there.
Ty fort he great review... I just bought a used Ford C max energi 2016. Why you may ask. I considering a full electric vehicle on a long trip from Canada to the USA and Mexico is not possible. going to mexico with an electric car. LOL// it's not going to happen. Hybrid at the moment is perhaps the cheapest way to travel without worries.
I have a '13 C-Max Energi I bought used about 6 months ago for $7500. With a 130 mile daily commute I needed something more fuel efficient than the Edge I was driving, I do have the benefit of free car charging at work so that certainly helps with my commute costs. I haven't been averaging as good a mileage as you have been getting though. In the summer I was averaging 50.1 MPGe. In the winter it is closer to 40. Almost my entire is commute is highway so cruising at 80 MPH isn't the most efficient way to drive. It's very comfortable and even roomy, 4 adults can easily sit comfortably with room to spare.
Performance is about what you'd expect out of a smaller car. It destroys a Prius but the acceleration still leaves you wanting. I sense that some of that is because of the CVT transmission. It is sluggish and slow to respond. I've never been a fan of CVT's for that reason. I've only had it for 6 months so I can't speak much to reliability. I can say I've put 22,000 miles on it without issue. The car has 128,000 miles total and is in absolutely perfect condition. You can definitely tell the batteries are a bit a tired. Even in the summer I was lucky to 18 miles of range. Usually less than that with highway driving.
The only maintenance issue I have had so far is the rear brakes. I replaced them at about 112,000 mile mark because I had a caliper lock up and destroy the rotor. They were factory original brakes however. I have full maintenance history and the brakes have never been replaced before. I've not had the same issue as you with the charging port door. Mine seems to close fine and stay closed.
The only thing I really HATE about the car is the much lamented My Ford Touch infotainment system. It is absolutely rubbish. I have frequent issues with Bluetooth skipping like a scratched record. It is slow to respond and locks up frequently. I have the newer Sync 3 system in my Edge and it is worlds better. Cargo space also kinda sucks. But that's the price you pay for retrofitting an existing car with a huge battery pack.
They are pretty good reliable cars. Good to hear that it’s working out so well for you, and totally agree on the infotainment system.
My Ford Fusion SE Hybrid gets 44 Highway, 53 City, and 65 on "slow long trips" at 40mph.
I just paid off my Nissan Leaf. For me, $7,000 was a great price for a used Leaf. I still have 11 bars of battery capacity, and get 60 to 80 miles per charge. Electric cars are becomming more affordable as the technology evolves! Great video!
$7,000! That's a real bargain on a really good car. Thanks for watching!
I am thinking about buying a used Toyota Prius
@@Woke365 I don't think you can go wrong with a used Toyota Prius. My parents used to be owners of a Prius and they loved it!
Very smart. Used Leaf's are the best deal on the market if your looking for a great efficient commuter car assuming your commute can be accomplished without range anxiety. I've seriously consider a used Leaf but my commute is 104 miles round trip which might work except I have no charge option at work.
@@mmanjin Just proves that Nissan makes crap cars these days with terrible resale value. Stick with Toyota.
I bought used 800 dollars fixed rebooting battery fixed steering problem cost one front battery 10 software computer connection 20. I carry a full drum set 45 average miles
You have to buy an SD card to update the navigation. I have a 2016 Energi and just recently bought an updated SD card. I bought one that was one year old instead of the newest one and paid about $35 iirc. The newest version is around $100. Ford does not update navigation over the air, at least on the 13-16 Fusions.
BTW, the best way to buy the energi is used. I bought a 2016 with 31k on it earlier this year for about the same as an ICE Fusion. It definitely is saving me money on my 50 mile round trip commute. Plugging in and charging for free at work is nice too.
Used hybrids are an amazing bargain. But that’s really disappointing that Ford doesn’t provide the map updates for free. Many cars come with Apple CarPlay or Android Audio, which side steps the need for the car maker to provide navigation at all. And Tesla’s have free navigation included.
@@UndecidedMF the "sync 3" Ford systems have those also, but independent navigation that doesnt need a phone or data signal is separate
My 2013 Ford Fusion Hybrid Sync does not work with my iPhone. I am now about to buy a used 2016 Plug-in Ford Fusion Titanium...am on the fence with a 2017 FF Titanium Hybrid...almost same mileage and price....cooling seats on plug-in but NOT on Hybrid. ...I live in perfect road condition climate....so @Undecided with Matt Ferrell I had a great trade-in on my 2013, and am getting a great deal no matter which I choose...but HOV lane driving and electric-plug -in parking...two perks for Energi option not discussed....for me HOV commute where I live saves time daily which is priceless,
I hadn’t considered the HOV perk in some locations. That is pretty nice.
We really love our Fusion. Wish they planed a battery upgrade.
I agree, if they had a battery on those that got 50 ev miles that would be epic!
I almost bought the Hybrid version of the Fusion three years ago.
The upfront cost of an additional $8,000 just could not justify purchasing that version over the gasoline one, on top of expected expenses for repairs and maintenance. At a minimum, the daily mileage was 40 round trip, but being New England, the terrain it's exactly flat around here, so the extra power is needed in the winter months. So, I purchased the all-wheel drive version.
Glad I did, these last couple of winters have been ones to remember.
When I bought mine the price gap was smaller than the $8k you were seeing. If I remember correctly, there were some special sales going on at the time. While it would absolutely not make up for the $8k price difference you were seeing, the maintenance costs on the Energi were pretty much non existent in the time I had it. The brakes were wearing better than any car I had before because of the regen braking and I didn’t have to change the oil as frequently. There’s generally less maintenance on a hybrid vs. a traditional ICE car. If you can find an Energi model closer in price (used is usually the way to go for that), it’s definitely worth it.
@@UndecidedMF Nice.
I must have bought mine right before the specials.
You are right about the oil changes. It's up to 5k miles per.
Still, Wmass is rough on the body.
No kidding. New England isn’t easy on our cars. Between the winters and all of the potholes ... good luck.
Hi. Do you still have your car?
Changing oil every 3 months? I think somebody at the car service might have bamboozled you because a usual car change is at least every 6 months or normally once a year. I’ve never had problems with my cars like that.
I'm glad I got the regular non plug in hybrid. I complained about the battery taking up too much trunk space, but I was shocked when I seen this. That would be a deal breaker for me. I average close to 60mpg, one time I got as high as 84mpg. Given the higher cost of the plug in, I don't really see much of a benefit.
I just bought a 2019 energi, absolutely love it. Plug it in at home and get those free miles. I don't have to plug it in but at night why not, just like my cell phone. But I agree on the trunk space, super small. That's the biggest downside.
If I could pick up a used one for about $15,000, would you recommend it?
I would absolutely recommend it for $15k. That’s a really good deal.
Undecided with Matt Ferrell Thanks!
@@UndecidedMF how bout a used 2016 with 100,000 miles on it?
@@ronriggs9954 I just bought a used 2016 with 45000 on the odometer for $12,500. This should give you an idea of where the prices are. I definitely recommend it if trunk space is not your main concern.