I Made A HUGE Mistake On My Trailing Arms! Ultimate Land Rover Discovery Build Episode 29
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Today was a tough lesson. I did my best to estimate the coil over length on my Land Rover Discovery but without having the rest of the suspension components installed it wasn't accurate enough. This will cost us more time but at least Bilstein has helped me come up with a solution! I'm waiting on parts, but we will build a custom coil over in the next episode. One that will meet the exact dimensions of our project while still retaining the high performance of this specific coil over.
Thank you for watching! I hope you can learn from my mistakes, and I hope you enjoyed the video!
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I like how you show your mistakes as well a your triumphs. We all have both happen and its good to see how others solve problems and celebrate success! Thank you for the awesome videos and can't wait to see how the Samurai turns out!
Dude, it's important! I try to be as honest with my content as possible, good and bad 🙌
@Dirt Lifestyle keep up the great work.
Amen! Sometimes you take 1 step forward and 2 back. Until it's done (and let's be real we're never done) sometimes it's the process that's the most frustrating and most rewarding.
Being able to roll with the punches and improvise is definitely an important skill to have. I look forward to seeing what the fix for the coilovers is!
Cool to see Bilstein working with you on a creative solution.
They really know what they are doing. They are sending me parts to build a custom coilover body that will fit my dimensions. It's going to be rad 🙌
Bilatein are cool people I’ve used and have some of their shocks on a current vehicle.
You have given me so much inspiration for my own Discovery. I hope you don't mind if I borrow some or all of your ideas. You have also given a lot of invaluable technical information.
Mistakes are apart of the process of figuring it out. I love your channel because you're not afraid to show and talk about your mistakes.
I don’t even have a garage or build anything but I love your videos. (Jeep owner) Great narration, killer editing, smooth back ground music and I learn so much.
Man, we can tell you are so bummed about the coilovers. Don’t be, it happens Nate. Do what you can and move on to the Sammy!!!! You got this!!!
Hello Nate, I have the Bilstein 8125 coilovers, they are pretty much the same Bilstein coilover you have. I removed the foam jounce bumpers that are on the shaft because it holds on to moisture and causes corrosion to start at the bottom of the shaft and that corrosion will travel up the shaft under the chrome.
Your description of dirt and water getting in there sounds the rockers of my 75 K10. Lol.
My momma used to say there are three types of people. Those that learn from books, those that watch other people, & those that need to piss on the electric fence for themselves. Thanks for showing this. Although it may be humbling, all us would be fabricators can learn so much from this
Lol well said!
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU for showing good safety practices!!!! So glad to see lots of jackstand under that rig on a lift at low height. I can't get my coworkers to understand the safety of even tho it's on a lift, you still need supports when it's not above the locks...
This is by far my favorite channel on RUclips so keep up the great work. I do have one small complain though, recently you started to put massive amounts of text on the screen instead of doing voice overs for it all. For someone who has eyesight issues without my glasses (which I never can find...), its really hard to read it especially when its white text on a moving background. It would be awesome to hear more of the voice overs or make it easier to read with a solid background. Complaining over! Keep up the awesome work Nate. Cant wait to see how the Samurai turns out.
Thanks for always keepin it real Nate, keep building stuff and we'll keep watchin 🙂
Great watch during lunch
Nice!
Excellent video! Thank you for keeping it real. I have learned so much from trying things that didn't work, at least not as well as I thought it would, and then having to fix or improve my "failed" attempt. For the record, I wouldn't consider ordering the wrong coil over length a mistake. The only thing you could have done differently is order multiple lengths then send the ones back that didn't fit, but since everyone is waiting a long time for coil overs, I'm thankful you didn't take that approach. Besides, it sounds like we might get to learn how to stretch them as a result. That's a trick I'm anxious to learn! Thanks for all of the ways you are making the off-road industry better Nate!
Nate. Joy of painting with Bob Ross, "There are no mistakes" is his word ! Do you need aftermarket front and rear suspension bracket mounts by 'Terrafirma' for the modified D2a ? V.
I believe you can get different rod ends for coil overs.
Disco content is best content. Better than the samurai could ever dream of being. Looking forward to the samurai videos though 👌
NATE!!! 🤙Keep the disco content coming. Toyota and Jeeps are awesome and BOOOORING. Just me but the disco build is inspirational and definitely sets you apart. Way to go brother!
Not sure what happened but I haven’t had your videos recommended since the trailer battery welder video. I just thought jee I haven’t seen Nate for a long while (except on motortrend💪🏼) and iv missed a heap! Oh well I get to binge now haha. Love to see ya come to Australia one day
The mistakes make us human. Love the attitude about forward progression and truly appreciate how hard you're working to put out two videos a week! I've watched this channel since the day you announced why you left BJ and have enjoyed every episode since. keep it up sir!
It is super unfortunate how it’s still taking months to get product these days. Covid was so long ago and it’s almost like it never existed, except for situations like this. Super disappointing.
I was never a fan of the disco concept and all, but I absolutely love your fabrication. Your truly inspiring and incredible to watch when it comes to that aspect. So I look forward to the completion of this leg of the disco. Thanks for the videos Nate!
Order a set of Kings today and you might get lucky and see them in 9 months. A year wait is quite common at this point. Same story with Fox and Sway-A-Away. Bilstein is a bit faster, but 4-6 months is still an eternity for what used to be off-the-shelf parts. Shock lead times are just pure insanity these days.
@@WhyBeNick I do plan on doing king coilovers in the front of my JKU in the future. I’ll likely look at buying used shocks rather then new because of this.
Why didn’t you move the upper mount higher up and tack it in. Bolt on shocks and cycle the new suspension before ever final welding?
Have you thought about cutting the bottom of the shafts and tig welding an eyelet to it? You maintain a longer shock body for down travel while limiting up travel, if that works out for you
Nice one in taking it in your stride, I would of been super pissed off for a few hours 😆. Glad that you can sort it out.
Tough working on a few projects, mind is all other the place, good going ✊
I have the opposite approach to shocks. You find the preferred shock/coilover for the job and mount the brackets accordingly. Make it fit. If there's an absolute size limitation, then factor that in when ordering shocks. But I always make the bracket fit the shock, not the other way around.
You’re going to love the samurai. This little thing is one of the most reliable and indestructible off-road rig that will take you places jeeps can’t go 😆 can’t wait for the Sammy content
Like the music to cover the shop noise
Mistakes happen. Bring on the Samurai! Can't wait.
I feel your pain. With the current fox/king/bilstein lead times, you kinda have to guess and order, and try to make things work. More than once a coil over ordered for a specific project didn't fit, and that coil over ended up on a different project. Roll with it.
Great video none the less. Supply chain issues really suck especially when your use to quick and cheep delivery. U just looked up some parts at a popular online parts store and $40 in parts was going to be $100 delivered. mind you that's to Canada. Local parts store it is. Looking forward to the Samy build.
Been there man! When I built my rig, I realized it was 4 inches too high. So now I got the ride height where I want it to be, my pinion angles are off. Long story short, we all have our moments. We gotta pay for them later. Learning is fun :)
All a day custom building! Great video ether way. 💪
Good call on the rear frame Nate. Buddies with D2s regularly rip off their rear pan hard conversions along with a huge chunk of the frame (as opposed to the factory watts link). Pretty awful once it happens.
We all make or made things , while some made a mistake going with the flow , while others live more intentionally & discovered they selected errors ... I select errors or poor options unfortunately they are often discovered when & where they surface .. I am so grateful they surface before it snow balls into a crisis of great proportions ... life threatening & such ! I like it that you share yours & what you select to make it all work properly !
I'm feeling your pain on the coilovers, I've never seen shipping lengths this bad. Good Luck on the build.
Thanks for this video 😎👍
Those diesel heaters are hard on the lungs. I understand you don't want to freeze, I've used them too. Please take a look at ceiling mounted radiant tube heaters. They are very efficient and not exceedingly expensive. I think what makes a professional is learning to overcome your mistakes. You learn to be more careful in the first place because of the time, money, and frustration, but also to be creative and flexible when poop occurs. I really enjoy your videos and learn so much from them. Thank you and your family.
My understanding of weld through primer is that it has a terrible name. It actually contaminates the weld. Apparently it's designed to be sprayed where you can't get after welding for corrosion protection, but should be cleaned from the actual weld area. It also needs to be removed before painting. It is not paint primer. Collision Hub has a RUclips video on it, and 3M also does ruclips.net/video/y317f2KP-z4/видео.html
Love your honesty and humbleness man. Keep it up!! 🙏🏻🤘🙌
Great content continues!!
When trying to weld a blind weld… cut a 3/16 line in the part and weld from the inside thus connecting it
I know you love your Bilsteins, but it would be awesome to see you work with Carbon Shocks. An American manufacturer and I’ve heard they have shorter lead times.
Well that sucks! LOL! You know this stuff happens. This is when having so many projects going that you can just switch to another. Can't wait to see the solution and can't wait to see Samurai content! Keep up the good work.
What a pain…..it’s going to be bad ass once you have the right parts👍🏻. Great video as always 👊🏻👊🏻
nate! awesome video! gotta check out trail hero this year. early october in sand hollow utah! huge event last year and expecting a bigger event this year !
If you ever get the chance I would love to see the om617 j10 finished!
If at first you don't succeed... keep welding, it'll fir eventually lol.
Excellent video. Can't wait to see the fix for the length of the shock
Love the build videos and the trip vids it has given me a lot of research and development to work on my jeep kj and really make it true off-road ready with lift kits and custom bumpers, u r like my Chrisfix repair guy but for the off-road world
Man we get a Friday Nate this week too!? What have we done to deserve this honor
the stock shock mounts really hold the mud on d2s for the mileage on your disco the chassis in an amazing shape I've welded new rear half chassis on d2 with 70k on them
I've learned Seymor is the best. I'm having a van done by Ujointoffroad and that is all they use and they build super nice stuff.
so glad Bilstein and you could figure out a solution.
Me too! Parts are on the way 🙌
Can you take off the mount on the shaft side of the coil over then cut, tap threads, and remount the bolt mount back on to the shaft? You will get the longer travel and still work compressed.
That was the reason I retired my 1992 Ford Ranger 4.0 4x4 5spd, holes in the frame behind coil brackets that didnt have drain holes. 400,000 kms, with a different motor that didn't sound very good, the final day it ran under its own power was about 3-4 hrs of wheeling through about 3ft of snow.
Motor was knocking like a diesel when I got home, pulled it apart and found the 6th cylinder rod bearing to be in 3 pieces (yes the top half wore down that far that there was almost nothing left). Was a good truck, fixed it a lot, still needed a lot of work but wasn't worth it. Now I have a 2010 Ranger Sport 4.0 4x4 5spd which I bought the weekend before blowing the motor.
We all make mistakes I've got a set of 2" shocks sitting in my garage that have never because I bought them and then I decided to go with a 6" lift so they are kind of useless I'm gonna have to give them away So keep going man we love watching your videos
The sound from the heat sources on the wall were soo minimal I wouldn't worry about it!
I wish I had a heat source in my barn but my insurance broker said it was a no no! Now I'm wishing I did radiant heat!
It's been said before but I think the best part is seeing that sometimes stuff goes wrong and that's just part of the process. I get so much nostalgia watching your editing too, it takes me back to weekends with my dad watching guys like Stacy David in the morning on Truckz. Those shows always made fabrication life look so sexy and clean and simple but we all know better. Keep up the good work!
5:33 Amen Brother!!
Try Getting a Steel-IT kick , UP,,, Even if all off Road Guys Can’t get To status like your Channel , They can still Use Steel-IT cause the Amount of Trail Welds and Broken Parts Just Weld right through It ,
Radflo makes an 8" 2.5 coilover that is 15" collapsed 23" extended for btf's lt kit
What, I'm perfect
I don't know what you're talking about, but I am perfectly satisfied with your video
Folks who like using the word mistake usually lean on going with the flow where as folks who don't like using the word mistake .. select to live life more intentionally ! there's no right or wrong here ! To each their own ! for better or worse ! sorry for my rant .. lol but it felt good at the same time ! Conclusion : We all select options for better or worse no matter what we individually label them !
You mentioned cutting out the wheel wells to fit bigger tyres.....Big problems....the rear door closes onto the top of the wheel arches and the rear seat sits on them, also the rear seatbelt mounts are on the arch as well. Would be OK if you want to loose the rear doors but then as you use it as a 'family' vehicle if you have no rea doors the front seats do not tip to allow rear access. TTFN
All good brother.
Samurai hell yeah 👍
I would just used those so what you lose 2inch of travel just put a longer bump stop in the two inch will give you a little more height for the bigger tire correct ...
Wide open design has radflo Coilovers in stock ready to ship
That's a bummer...unfortunately a 15" collapsed CO will most likely be 8" travel max. With your trailing arm motion ratio, you'll be lucky to see 11" wheel travel
On the plus side parts are starting to come around back in stock 2023 seems like we might start getting back to a semi normal.
What if you cut off 2 inches from the middle of the rod on the coilover and then grind 45 degree chamfer on each end and put them in a v block and reweld them together
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Is there not an option from Bilstien to offset the lower mounting hole of the shock? I believe I've seen screw on bottom eyes from other brands that have the actual eye 1"-2" up in front/rear of the shaft instead of directly below the shaft. Not sure how much room you have inside your lower control arm to allow for the shock shaft to drop lower into it so you can bolt up to the original location on the control arm.
Argh... Samurai content coming- I was excited to see you back on the Disco! Now I'll have to wait months again... oh well- your other content is great- but not Disco great! ;-)
Doh moment. We all have them.
Have you considered using marine grease?
When are you going to Start reworking on the low buck diesel truck that 60s j series. I love those trucks and I have a 63 j200 stepside and the profile of that truck is amazing
Would it be possible to have a machine shop shorten the shock shaft and rethread the end? Not ideal but could be a quick turnaround.
Isn’t it great though…. What did you know before starting everything in your shop? I never know what I’m doing before i start projects, just that i know something needs to be done. Then learning how to weld, buying tools, cutting Metal, then… suddenly you have new trucks, huge following, tons of tools, contacts to call, etc…. Im just reminiscing and bamboozled how far you are. Kinda proud.
Nate my dear man, love your vids bro but...quit ignoring those jeeps! What up with the j20 and the TJ?
Why not just slot weld the top of the coilover mount? Then you can fully seal off that area
How you doing Nate. Thank you for all the time you You spend For us So I got in a accident with my truck down in Baja. I need a new Axle suspension Have the bed off my truck. What would you recommend that spray on my truck For protection. From salt Plus I have Boat that That sometimes I have to dip my truck in the ocean I live in San Clemente California Orange County.
Metal is cheaper than coil overs so can’t you just move both mounts an inch and make up for the oops on the compressed length?? You may have said something about that and I missed it but that’s exactly what I would attempt to do 😂
I was thinking the same thing. But I bet his mount is high as possible already with out cutting into the cab. Just assuming.
That could be one of the issues. You could rotate both and wouldn’t have to move them an entire inch. But I’m only speculating and don’t have the project in front of me. I respect his abilities greatly. He’s a good fabricator.
Ahh you meant to make that shock tower stronger anyways lol. My son and I are waiting for the samurai build. Need the motivation to work on my own
my dad used to run Bilstein racing rallye cars in Germany in the 60s
What diesel heater are you running? I'm in the market and would like to find a quality one that doesn't break the bank.
But I wanna know if you did the other side to match?
Why not just raise the frame side shock tower to fit the ones you have?
That what Land Rovers do. They always f.. you when you dont wont to. 🤣
Cheers Nate. 🍻
What are you sprinkling on the coilover towers at 4:13?
The upper mount couldn’t move up?
Is there a rule of thumb for bump stops size vs weight?
I am a little worried seeing your store bought jack stands on high blocks. I just cut up $300 in metal to build high lift jack stands based on your video. Is there a reason you don’t use them? Should I stop production?
Does the Chinese diesel ⛽ heater work pretty good? How long can you run it on a tank?
I thought you were going gung ho on the Sammy for KOH? You found some extra time?
Nate, love your videos. My only complaint is your videos are constantly louder then most of the other videos I watch. Not a huge, but its always a shock to the system when I click your videos and my ears explode with noise, when I click off, all the other videos are ultra quiet.
How so funny I was just talking to my youngest son today about how much TV I don't watch I'm more into the RUclips because sitcoms mirror in a Fantasia way of reality they set up a problem that can be easily fixed by the end of the episode and reality TV is so staged thanks for showing true life you set out to accomplish a goal and things backfire let it not be called a reality show to steal a Robert de Niro famous quote this is this THIS IS THIS! This is not something else reality is either it goes your way or it don't either you brought the right tool or you didn't and you eat the consequences whether you like it or not . I appreciate it this video 🤲👋🙌👏
Hey nate does that rover still have the factory engine and trans in it?
So move the frame side mount higher. It's a sh!tbox disco, no one will care if you have to cut and shut the floor a bit
Change to 2" shorter shafts
Did I catch like this Jeep? 0:48