There was an issue with the Lakeburg Production design that's now been fixed. Big shoutout to Edward on the discord for catching it... I can't fix the version in the video, but the version on the website (aldenpotamus.com/pages/tls-base-guide ) has been corrected!
Genuinely incredible. Only tragedy is this game isn't more popular otherwise you would have 100x the views. Thanks for putting in such high quality work.
Who knows, perhaps it'll continue to rise in popularity. I think it has a pretty solid base of folks playing it and with some mod support and a few more improvements from the devs the world could be our oyster!
@densr1177 so glad you find it helpful... when thinking about this problem these were the resources that I would have wanted when I was getting started (or even still now 1000 hours in!).
I just started playing this game and I'm addicted! Currently slamming my head against Lakeburg. Your videos are very informative and you are very easy to listen to!
First of all, thank you for invested time in all your projects. I learn a lot by looking at your videos! I just picked up the game and made it to Lakeburg. What I do not understand when you raise your city and re-build it is when do you do this? At the first night? Or do you wait until you have the economy for it and then raise and re-build the city?
@pjb9143 great question. The build is pretty incremental as you have the spare gold. It's something you need to find a balance on as you go... but generally I try to build the houses and gold mine / scav camps first and then slowly fill out the rest. As for the demolition I do that all on Day #1
Great guide, I agree with everything that has been said, I'm not sure if you mentioned it anywhere in the entire guide, but we can, when the wave is still far away, destroy so-called natural barriers like barrels/crates with our heroes attacks, if it helps us in some way.
Very true! I usually spend early nights clearing mist censers, bane of my existence. Anyone else remember when you used to kill them all at the end of the first night and they never came back. Those were the days!
@OkraneS I think it comes down to TLS being a relatively niche game to be honest. For small creators like myself there's a very fine balance at play when choosing games. With a game like TLS with a small enough following I can pretty much be "the guy" (and by doing so show up in google searches for the game etc)... on the other hand if I did the same stuff for fortnight / minecraft I'd likely disappear into the abyss of obscurity as there's just so much competition. For now I'm biding my time waiting for the white whale that is a high interest low competition game to come along. In the meantime I'll keep putting out the best content I can and hope for the best :) In the meantime if you have friends that play TLS and would benefit from the guides, feel free to share ;)
I usually just focus on building and upgrading houses once asap because they allow more gold to be harvested via ruins and corpses. Next, I build production buildings in order of 2x armor, 1x melee, 1x magic and 1x trinket. Armor is going to be used by everyone so makes sense to have more of those and it also is worth more gold generally. Once that's done I spend money on upgrading the shop to max lvl to sell stuff and make good money for upgrading equipment lvl. Higher lvl equipment dramatically increases in value, both for combat and selling and by night 5 or 6 I'll be swimming in excess gold. Defensively, I build walls 1 tile inside the haven so the enemies have to enter a haven tile to deal damage to the wall. Behind the walls, i place 3 ballistas with 1 space in between. That 1 space acts as a doorway for my heros to enter and exit the base for strategic advantage.
@bruhder5854 there's been a lot of amazing discussion over the years about production strats and they are (without question) the best way to make a wildly overkill economy which is a lot of fun :) I generally pace out my houses to always match up with what I'm looking to salvage -- aka 3 mountains = 6 workers, or 3 mountains + a 4 ruin = 10 workers... but beyond what I need for immediate salvage I like to put into gold or scav camps just because I think it yields better resources over time. For newer players trying to get their first wins and learn the ropes I generally discourage production as I think it's a bit of a win-more strategy because you thread a pretty narrow gap between having enough power to survive and the very heavy upfront cost of production strats. I see a lot of new players losing their runs due to greed and a massive prod econ is definitely overkill for winning. Most normal runs I have heroes hitting for 20+k damage on bosses on the final night without ever building a production builds... do they need to be stronger, probably not, but is it fun. YUP! :) Thanks for the comment, cheers!
I noticed your elderlicht Produktion build only has 4 production buildings. I found swapping the Inn and the armor maker allows you to place an Alchemist left of the shop which only extends the base by 5 squares. I enjoy Alchemist on elderlicht as I run Bagshot omens and a fourth starting hero so having the influx of consumables early feels quite nice. And the fourth hero makes the early x attacks easier to deal with, allowing to max out production faster and get the ball rolling.
@HansFleischer1000 I won't pretend that it wasn't a bit of an oversight missing one production building on Elderlicht, but I attribute it to the presence of the Seer. I think a smart play on Elderlicht (like the last run I did) is to eventually replace the Seer with another weapon shop as they have the same foot print. Out plan (as a community) longer term is to create more of these templates and expand the interactive guide on my website to house more options from "all the production" to more minimalist strategies. Right now there's more work to do than hands to do it, but I'm excited about what's to come!
With your bases so compact, it's no longer about picking sides for heroes, and more about forming a circle. Heroes can rotate to attack where the enemies are putting on the most pressure.
Transfer do get a lot easier with small bases, and it's a LOT easier for heroes to help out with another side if one hero falls behind. I've been doing a lot of runs where I completely forget to build warp gates and barely miss them. Great call out @chandl34
Instead of the jaggy thing you could put the mana well in the far left corner for Lakeburg Production. It would look a lot cleaner but that far left corner isn't a place I like to put things because of how hard the enemies hit it. But it would look cleaner. For Glenwald I don't find gold mines to be particularly good? I certainly wouldn't build 3 of them so for the corpse strat I'd just move that awkward mana well over into the spot occupied by gold mine #3.
I'm starting to think that Scav camps might be a great play on a lot of maps like Runenberg... Yup @TysonJensen Lakeburg Production was scuffed by a brain fart, but it's been fixed in the website version aldenpotamus.com/pages/tls-base-guide , and I also made a pinned comment to let people know!
@@aldenpotamus I probably won't be able to see it live (work) but I look forward to a video of scav camp experimentation! Also, thanks for uploading all your livestreams in tinned editions for those of us who can't see them live. It's much appreciated!
Thank you @TheRealBebel and @Shizandgiggles37 you are both absolutely correct, along with the folks that thumbs-up'd this. I've added a pinned comment about my mistake and also updated the interactive guide on the website (aldenpotamus.com/pages/tls-base-guide ) so that Lakeburg looks the way you described. It was a long and sleepless weekend getting this video out and that was the price it paid!
Question: what is the suggested pivot point when you destroy out of place buildings (primarily houses) in order to rebuild them in a 'proper' place in maps that need them moved? Too early and your econ suffers but too late and you delay the upgrades on those houses and thus getting to 12 workers
I generally move them when the "well placed" ones are fully upgraded. It costs the same to do a second level upgrade as move a house and upgrade it... so once I have my max level houses in the right spots and I need more workers for mountains, that's when I move the ill-placed ones. Hope this helps @Pinstar
I would never have considered not making the walls on the most outside tiles of my base because of some bias of the "construction" genre where you want to maximize space ; but your builds are so much more efficient for corpses. Just a side question ; but can panic be a problem with all those open spaces or is it actually less panic inducing than monster hitting walls too often ? I suppose you let them arrive but heroes and balistaes kill everything before they can generate panic ?
So glad I could open you up to some new options! There's definitely many ways to play but the smaller core base definitely has some perks. So generally speaking I can usually clear all the have tiles late in runs, but the value of corpse piles is so massive compared to the rewards for keeping panic low that I generally don't worry too much about the panic.
@@aldenpotamus I had the exact same reaction to panic for the first 3 maps, then somebody told me panic is dwarfed by corpse cash, and... yeah. Seems a bit counterintuitive. They probably should have made panic more important.
I would like to see more downside to high panic... or perhaps even better more upside to no panic! Give me 5 items for S-rank and 3 for A-rank... that would probably change some things!
@@aldenpotamus How about you get panic to act when monsters ENTER the town zone instead of at the end of the turn? I'd like to see more of a bonus for working to keep the monsters completely away from the town.
With the current corpse rewards I think that change would just make it so there's literally no point in trying to keep panic down sadly. At the moment it's not hard to get panic and relatively difficult to keep it low. During stream today it was suggested that perhaps panic could increase shop prices or reduce worker efficiency, those are both interesting angles as well. Though I always prefer to sweeten the upside than punish players.
This is a great idea... it would require zooming out a bit on the map (since this was really focused on the haven and most of the places I put warp gates are out in the field. As a general rule of thumb though, there are two types of warp gates in my eyes 1) cardinal directions just to allow transit across the base more easily 2) on the outer reaches to make a dryad or dwarf statue easier to get to Perhaps a later version of the guide will cover the maps more widely. Thanks for the comment @moffspinkin
@aldenpotamus when whatching your full playthrough it is hard to get a good view on strategy phase decisions day by day. Maybe a "strategic view" of the run will be a good idea. Focus on building and economy base with only roughly adressing gear, like spend xxx gold on a gear.
Mana well... Well it's been a long time since i last used those... I usually kill 2 of my heros at the start to maximize exp gain on 1 hero. This not only makes them super powerful early on, it also takes away need for mana because i can just unlock perks that refill mana under a condition like mana harvester and it becomes a non issue.
So mana perks don't always exist as they're only 2 of them if you don't count Blood Magic... I think early game mana well as astoundingly cheap and allow you to basically free-cast on heroes. I also think that picking up Harvester over Quick Reload or other great T1 perks is really nerfing your heroes late game when you could just spend 35g to have +10 max mana and essentially unlimited mana by end game. @bruhder5854 I used to share your perspective favoring mana sustain over basically all other things. Harvester was S-tier on my first perk list... but since then I've realized that for 35g (basically nothing) you can buy a T1 perk which is a fantastic deal. Mana Collector on the other hand is great but it comes online quite late even with XP manipulation strategies and capped at 10 mana per turn doesn't really let you go fully ham. Overall I think I'd just say, you might want to give mana wells a chance, they're surprisingly cheap and give a lot of benefit!
I always build my walls on the edge of the haven, because I don't want any panic. How does this not cause massive panic when an enemy enters the haven tiles?
Presumably they get killed the turn they enter. It's a pretty counterintuitive thing to me, I just started playing but I'm starting to see the reasons now. I waste a lot of materials repairing and rebuilding long walls that could go towards ballistas, or shorter walls that don't get destroyed. It just feels kinda bad, I want a massive sprawling base with all the buildings haha.
As long as you kill the enemy the turn they enter your haven you won't get panic. At the start of your turn it will highlight your panic bar in purple to let you know how much panic you will get if you don't remove all the enemies who entered
@Dsingis as others have mentioned... the concentration of ballista means that many of them die before i get my turn and the panic is only counted if they're still alive after my turn. With a solid set of ballista and strong heroes I'm able to clear out my haven every turn and often get S-rank with all the enemies dying inside my base. @balazsjakabffy2556 you're not alone, there are a lot of folks who find this way of playing less in line with the fantasy they like... and more power to you or them for playing the way that makes you happy. A solid compromise is to build your walls 1 tile in, so that the horde stacks up on the outer most haven tile. You get a bigger base and lots of corpses. @sirk215 absolutely correct... if you're not killing them, stunning them will do in a pinch too!
@@aldenpotamus Ah yeah, the corpse mechanic is also a bit counterintuitive. I would start killing them as far as I can because I'm afraid of getting overwhelmed, but I've seen how big of a difference in corpse piles this makes in your videos. I get that it's a way to reward playing more confident/risky but it's a bit weird that it's the end of the world and you are just inviting monsters into your base heh.
Very fair assessment :) I think a lot of folks get stuck trying to progress through the game, especially on the harder difficulties and that's where my guides really come in handy... but I'm certainly not forcing anyone to watch them ;)
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There was an issue with the Lakeburg Production design that's now been fixed. Big shoutout to Edward on the discord for catching it... I can't fix the version in the video, but the version on the website (aldenpotamus.com/pages/tls-base-guide ) has been corrected!
Nice.
Also: ")" makes link broken. You should add a space before ")".
@Alexandragon1 thanks Alex, fixed!
Best guide/ faq maker. You are extremely underrated.
@tbsbloodheist8986 thank you as always!
Genuinely incredible. Only tragedy is this game isn't more popular otherwise you would have 100x the views. Thanks for putting in such high quality work.
Who knows, perhaps it'll continue to rise in popularity. I think it has a pretty solid base of folks playing it and with some mod support and a few more improvements from the devs the world could be our oyster!
Thanks for the guide, it's always difficult to create an efficient base, and the map is great. Thank you so much
@densr1177 so glad you find it helpful... when thinking about this problem these were the resources that I would have wanted when I was getting started (or even still now 1000 hours in!).
You put a lot of effort into your guides 👍
@davidlin2288 I love putting out quality content, glad to hear it's felt on the viewing side!
The amount of effort and care you put out is so great, I'm so glad I've stumbled upon your channel!
Thank you @dirzz glad to have you aboard! Cheers!
I just started playing this game and I'm addicted! Currently slamming my head against Lakeburg. Your videos are very informative and you are very easy to listen to!
@Matt-gn4te so glad to hear it! There's plenty more strategy guides where this one came from if you're looking for more! :)
This was a great guide on general strategy for building a base. Thanks!
@mrbunnyban so glad to hear it, hope it helped! Cheers!
First of all, thank you for invested time in all your projects. I learn a lot by looking at your videos!
I just picked up the game and made it to Lakeburg. What I do not understand when you raise your city and re-build it is when do you do this? At the first night? Or do you wait until you have the economy for it and then raise and re-build the city?
@pjb9143 great question. The build is pretty incremental as you have the spare gold. It's something you need to find a balance on as you go... but generally I try to build the houses and gold mine / scav camps first and then slowly fill out the rest. As for the demolition I do that all on Day #1
you rock aldenpotamus!
@lucasmccauley3995 thank you!
Thnx for the guide! Makes me want to have another run at TLS!
@paris8132 it's absolutely worth the revisit.... still a great game and the DLC added some nice twists. Gauntlet still sucks though!
Great guide, I agree with everything that has been said, I'm not sure if you mentioned it anywhere in the entire guide, but we can, when the wave is still far away, destroy so-called natural barriers like barrels/crates with our heroes attacks, if it helps us in some way.
@diego8300 you are absolutely correct you can do that... though it doesn't prevent panic so I rarely do it.
@@aldenpotamus outside the base, clearing trees can clear lines of sight though. useful in Greenwald.
Very true! I usually spend early nights clearing mist censers, bane of my existence. Anyone else remember when you used to kill them all at the end of the first night and they never came back. Those were the days!
wow so much effort you've put into this, looks amazing. How are you so underfollowed?
@OkraneS I think it comes down to TLS being a relatively niche game to be honest. For small creators like myself there's a very fine balance at play when choosing games. With a game like TLS with a small enough following I can pretty much be "the guy" (and by doing so show up in google searches for the game etc)... on the other hand if I did the same stuff for fortnight / minecraft I'd likely disappear into the abyss of obscurity as there's just so much competition.
For now I'm biding my time waiting for the white whale that is a high interest low competition game to come along. In the meantime I'll keep putting out the best content I can and hope for the best :) In the meantime if you have friends that play TLS and would benefit from the guides, feel free to share ;)
I usually just focus on building and upgrading houses once asap because they allow more gold to be harvested via ruins and corpses.
Next, I build production buildings in order of 2x armor, 1x melee, 1x magic and 1x trinket. Armor is going to be used by everyone so makes sense to have more of those and it also is worth more gold generally. Once that's done I spend money on upgrading the shop to max lvl to sell stuff and make good money for upgrading equipment lvl. Higher lvl equipment dramatically increases in value, both for combat and selling and by night 5 or 6 I'll be swimming in excess gold.
Defensively, I build walls 1 tile inside the haven so the enemies have to enter a haven tile to deal damage to the wall. Behind the walls, i place 3 ballistas with 1 space in between. That 1 space acts as a doorway for my heros to enter and exit the base for strategic advantage.
@bruhder5854 there's been a lot of amazing discussion over the years about production strats and they are (without question) the best way to make a wildly overkill economy which is a lot of fun :) I generally pace out my houses to always match up with what I'm looking to salvage -- aka 3 mountains = 6 workers, or 3 mountains + a 4 ruin = 10 workers... but beyond what I need for immediate salvage I like to put into gold or scav camps just because I think it yields better resources over time.
For newer players trying to get their first wins and learn the ropes I generally discourage production as I think it's a bit of a win-more strategy because you thread a pretty narrow gap between having enough power to survive and the very heavy upfront cost of production strats. I see a lot of new players losing their runs due to greed and a massive prod econ is definitely overkill for winning.
Most normal runs I have heroes hitting for 20+k damage on bosses on the final night without ever building a production builds... do they need to be stronger, probably not, but is it fun. YUP! :) Thanks for the comment, cheers!
Another great guide!
Another one for the record books! :) Cheers!
This design makes a huge difference. I beat the first map on my first try, then got stomped at Lakeburg. Winning easily with this base design.
@chandl34 that's what it's all about! Cheers!
I noticed your elderlicht Produktion build only has 4 production buildings. I found swapping the Inn and the armor maker allows you to place an Alchemist left of the shop which only extends the base by 5 squares.
I enjoy Alchemist on elderlicht as I run Bagshot omens and a fourth starting hero so having the influx of consumables early feels quite nice. And the fourth hero makes the early x attacks easier to deal with, allowing to max out production faster and get the ball rolling.
@HansFleischer1000 I won't pretend that it wasn't a bit of an oversight missing one production building on Elderlicht, but I attribute it to the presence of the Seer. I think a smart play on Elderlicht (like the last run I did) is to eventually replace the Seer with another weapon shop as they have the same foot print.
Out plan (as a community) longer term is to create more of these templates and expand the interactive guide on my website to house more options from "all the production" to more minimalist strategies. Right now there's more work to do than hands to do it, but I'm excited about what's to come!
With your bases so compact, it's no longer about picking sides for heroes, and more about forming a circle. Heroes can rotate to attack where the enemies are putting on the most pressure.
Transfer do get a lot easier with small bases, and it's a LOT easier for heroes to help out with another side if one hero falls behind. I've been doing a lot of runs where I completely forget to build warp gates and barely miss them. Great call out @chandl34
Nice guide!
Thank you @tomxgeass !
Dear Mr.Aldenpotamus , youre as competent as they come
@enigmaenigma5986 thank you... though as a few have pointed out I completely messed up the lakeburg prod setup. It's fixed now but -1 for competence!
Instead of the jaggy thing you could put the mana well in the far left corner for Lakeburg Production. It would look a lot cleaner but that far left corner isn't a place I like to put things because of how hard the enemies hit it. But it would look cleaner.
For Glenwald I don't find gold mines to be particularly good? I certainly wouldn't build 3 of them so for the corpse strat I'd just move that awkward mana well over into the spot occupied by gold mine #3.
I'm starting to think that Scav camps might be a great play on a lot of maps like Runenberg...
Yup @TysonJensen Lakeburg Production was scuffed by a brain fart, but it's been fixed in the website version aldenpotamus.com/pages/tls-base-guide , and I also made a pinned comment to let people know!
@@aldenpotamus I probably won't be able to see it live (work) but I look forward to a video of scav camp experimentation! Also, thanks for uploading all your livestreams in tinned editions for those of us who can't see them live. It's much appreciated!
@TysonJensen my absolute pleasure. Look forward to the comments whenever they roll in! :)
On lakeburg with production focus, why didn't you put the mana well in the bottom left corner between house and armor maker?
I was looking at that as well. I'd probably do that instead of keeping the well in current location
Thank you @TheRealBebel and @Shizandgiggles37 you are both absolutely correct, along with the folks that thumbs-up'd this. I've added a pinned comment about my mistake and also updated the interactive guide on the website (aldenpotamus.com/pages/tls-base-guide ) so that Lakeburg looks the way you described.
It was a long and sleepless weekend getting this video out and that was the price it paid!
@@aldenpotamus I'm getting the '404 - Page not found' error for the link you provided above
Should be fixed now... youtube like to take parens and include them as part of the URL :(
Great guide, think you.
@eddieballgame my pleasure!
Question: what is the suggested pivot point when you destroy out of place buildings (primarily houses) in order to rebuild them in a 'proper' place in maps that need them moved?
Too early and your econ suffers but too late and you delay the upgrades on those houses and thus getting to 12 workers
I generally move them when the "well placed" ones are fully upgraded. It costs the same to do a second level upgrade as move a house and upgrade it... so once I have my max level houses in the right spots and I need more workers for mountains, that's when I move the ill-placed ones. Hope this helps @Pinstar
nice video can't w8 for the hero build video :)
@ivankulinski535 me either! This weekend I made a lot less progress on those than I expected, but they're coming!!!
I would never have considered not making the walls on the most outside tiles of my base because of some bias of the "construction" genre where you want to maximize space ; but your builds are so much more efficient for corpses.
Just a side question ; but can panic be a problem with all those open spaces or is it actually less panic inducing than monster hitting walls too often ? I suppose you let them arrive but heroes and balistaes kill everything before they can generate panic ?
So glad I could open you up to some new options! There's definitely many ways to play but the smaller core base definitely has some perks.
So generally speaking I can usually clear all the have tiles late in runs, but the value of corpse piles is so massive compared to the rewards for keeping panic low that I generally don't worry too much about the panic.
@@aldenpotamus I had the exact same reaction to panic for the first 3 maps, then somebody told me panic is dwarfed by corpse cash, and... yeah. Seems a bit counterintuitive. They probably should have made panic more important.
I would like to see more downside to high panic... or perhaps even better more upside to no panic! Give me 5 items for S-rank and 3 for A-rank... that would probably change some things!
@@aldenpotamus How about you get panic to act when monsters ENTER the town zone instead of at the end of the turn? I'd like to see more of a bonus for working to keep the monsters completely away from the town.
With the current corpse rewards I think that change would just make it so there's literally no point in trying to keep panic down sadly. At the moment it's not hard to get panic and relatively difficult to keep it low.
During stream today it was suggested that perhaps panic could increase shop prices or reduce worker efficiency, those are both interesting angles as well. Though I always prefer to sweeten the upside than punish players.
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Awesome thumbnail!
Thx for the guide!
@Alexandragon1 I'm working on my thumbnail game! Thanks as always Alex!
@@aldenpotamus :)
It would be nice to add teleporter placements for each map
This is a great idea... it would require zooming out a bit on the map (since this was really focused on the haven and most of the places I put warp gates are out in the field. As a general rule of thumb though, there are two types of warp gates in my eyes
1) cardinal directions just to allow transit across the base more easily
2) on the outer reaches to make a dryad or dwarf statue easier to get to
Perhaps a later version of the guide will cover the maps more widely.
Thanks for the comment @moffspinkin
@aldenpotamus when whatching your full playthrough it is hard to get a good view on strategy phase decisions day by day. Maybe a "strategic view" of the run will be a good idea. Focus on building and economy base with only roughly adressing gear, like spend xxx gold on a gear.
Interesting idea, I'll have to think on how to effectively do that... but I'm always interested in giving more insight into my process!
Mana well... Well it's been a long time since i last used those... I usually kill 2 of my heros at the start to maximize exp gain on 1 hero. This not only makes them super powerful early on, it also takes away need for mana because i can just unlock perks that refill mana under a condition like mana harvester and it becomes a non issue.
So mana perks don't always exist as they're only 2 of them if you don't count Blood Magic... I think early game mana well as astoundingly cheap and allow you to basically free-cast on heroes. I also think that picking up Harvester over Quick Reload or other great T1 perks is really nerfing your heroes late game when you could just spend 35g to have +10 max mana and essentially unlimited mana by end game.
@bruhder5854 I used to share your perspective favoring mana sustain over basically all other things. Harvester was S-tier on my first perk list... but since then I've realized that for 35g (basically nothing) you can buy a T1 perk which is a fantastic deal. Mana Collector on the other hand is great but it comes online quite late even with XP manipulation strategies and capped at 10 mana per turn doesn't really let you go fully ham. Overall I think I'd just say, you might want to give mana wells a chance, they're surprisingly cheap and give a lot of benefit!
great job. Your webside is blocked somehow .Maybe the gouvernment do not want me to use your tool :)
@alexstukov6817 how odd! I'm curious what country are you trying to access it from if you don't mind me asking?
@@aldenpotamus I am from Germany
I think maybe my browser is the issue.
How interesting... if Germany was blocking the site I'd truly be terrified :)
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No you!
@@aldenpotamus :)
I always build my walls on the edge of the haven, because I don't want any panic. How does this not cause massive panic when an enemy enters the haven tiles?
Presumably they get killed the turn they enter. It's a pretty counterintuitive thing to me, I just started playing but I'm starting to see the reasons now. I waste a lot of materials repairing and rebuilding long walls that could go towards ballistas, or shorter walls that don't get destroyed. It just feels kinda bad, I want a massive sprawling base with all the buildings haha.
As long as you kill the enemy the turn they enter your haven you won't get panic. At the start of your turn it will highlight your panic bar in purple to let you know how much panic you will get if you don't remove all the enemies who entered
Also if an enemy is stunned they will not cause panic
@Dsingis as others have mentioned... the concentration of ballista means that many of them die before i get my turn and the panic is only counted if they're still alive after my turn. With a solid set of ballista and strong heroes I'm able to clear out my haven every turn and often get S-rank with all the enemies dying inside my base.
@balazsjakabffy2556 you're not alone, there are a lot of folks who find this way of playing less in line with the fantasy they like... and more power to you or them for playing the way that makes you happy. A solid compromise is to build your walls 1 tile in, so that the horde stacks up on the outer most haven tile. You get a bigger base and lots of corpses.
@sirk215 absolutely correct... if you're not killing them, stunning them will do in a pinch too!
@@aldenpotamus Ah yeah, the corpse mechanic is also a bit counterintuitive. I would start killing them as far as I can because I'm afraid of getting overwhelmed, but I've seen how big of a difference in corpse piles this makes in your videos. I get that it's a way to reward playing more confident/risky but it's a bit weird that it's the end of the world and you are just inviting monsters into your base heh.
Just playing through the game will be faster than watching all these guides.
Very fair assessment :) I think a lot of folks get stuck trying to progress through the game, especially on the harder difficulties and that's where my guides really come in handy... but I'm certainly not forcing anyone to watch them ;)
@@aldenpotamus thank you very much for your work!
My pleasure! Cheers!
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Quick on the draw @nocti_tea8662 ... always first in my book!