Great breakdown of the weapon changes from earlier versions, really helpful to see how they changed and the potential new builds. Thanks for doing these guides!
I love using the magic missile with high bonus to multi hit. Especially the extra hits before Killing Anything that round. Can really weaken a massive amount of enemies at the beginning of a turn or slap a tanky enemy for lots of damage
I’ve enjoyed pairing the tome of secrets with the perk that gives 1% opportunism for every debuff applied, using the propagate debuff for 2 AP then finishing with the lightning strike can absolutely decimate an entire horde. I am playing on low difficulties though, so just my experience. Feels nice to get +40% opportunism from a buff though
Sadist is the name of that perk and interest using the debuff from Tome to proc it. Thanks for sharing Andrew, it's always nice to hear what's working for people new and old. Cheers!
This is awesome. Very thorough and clear. I don't even have the game yet but I've watched up to this point. I think I'll stop here for now as I want to explore it myself in regards to what works for me and what doesn't, rather than just sticking to builds you probably provide in your next video. Special thanks for keeping this light on spoilers and not trying to funnel the audience into particular few combinations you like the most.
Been waiting for this guide for a while now. After watching this, one of the notable that you've said in this guide is that you can change the angle of the rain of arrows of shortbow by pressing F. I've been using shortbow ever since but always having a hard time repositioning the hero so that it can hit as many as possible 😅 thanks for that info 👌💪
You are making great work for lovers of this game (old and new)👍. I have played this game almost 90 hours and have beaten a few apocalypse tier levels, and yet I still learned a lot from your tips and detailed explanations. I will definitely check your future guides.
So glad to hear it! My goal is always to be a bit like good children's TV... newbies love it but even the adults (experienced players) find some tidbits to enjoy too. Thanks for the kind words!
Great video. One thing about tome debuff I used it to debuff resistances on bosses. I knew a lot less about effective builds and struggled at first with bosses. But I noticed the debuff propagates. So what i used to do is park hero next to boss, cast debuff and it bounces between hero and boss. Driving them into negative 150%+. So tome for me was a necessary staple for big bosses
It's a great strat that i've seen a couple times (using a hero who's turn is done as a propagate enabler is very clever. I'm genreally not a huge fan of tome, but I see people using it to great effect! Thanks for the comment!
Thanks for your support and effort :D I'm new, and it is helping me a lot. Every time a play new I'm looking for someone who knows much more than me so that I can learn something and I found you!
Thanks for explaining all the weapons skills and how to get the best of them from your experience. Lots of work there, over 1h but not too long since every minute is dedicated to real explanations and interesting intels. Now I'll have to watch all the playlist cause I'm pretty sure I'll find interesting things to learn even in aspects I know quite well, damn you 🤣😉
The one thing I would change on the mechanics for sure is that instead of higher dodge the farther your target is I would just say it diminishes accuracy.
I think that's a subtle but important distinction @Bergerons_Review . Inaccuracy is one of those stats that so rarely comes into play in my experience that I think that nuance was lost because I don't spend a lot of time thinking about it... but that doesn't make your observation any less true! Thanks for the comment!
I owned the game from the first day it was available for purchase (even though I generally suck at roguelites). Watching your vids recently has helped me a ton. I was losing interest in the game until your explanations of things helped me unlock my brain lol.
MeanKno, that's one of the nicest comments I've ever received. Really makes me feel like I'm doing something right knowing that my videos are helping people enjoy a challenging games! Thanks for letting me know!
Nice introduction to the weapons. Lately I have been trying to use weapons that I don't usually pick because of the 1000 actions on the weapon unlocks and have been pleasantly surprised by a good amount of them. Managed to pick the accessory that recovers 14mp for an action in the first night and used with the tome and the critical runes perk keeping the mp low on purpose for a 28-32% crit chance on the perk while spamming fireball and Lightning bolt, really fun. And yeah the pistol feels so good, really like it as well.
Yup that skill that restores mana is "Profound Inspiration" and it's a game changer on the right hero! Gotta love it, and I really like the idea of using it with Critical Runes, very smart!
thats why i love this game, because u can play it in many ways! i make it quite different. for example I begin to build heroes from 4 tasks that most often arise: to kill tight horde, to kill many single targets, to kill bosses and special units, to kill low hp units. i make each hero well rounded for solving each of these tasks. for example, archer have great ability to kill tight hordes with his spells, and high crit+power shots allows him to kill fat targets even trough armor, but he's suffering in dealing with many single and wounded targets. so bow has a good sinergy with hand crossbow or wand because of their multi casting with a low damage, multi casting is also very good with crit (magic damage is also helpfull in some situations). or another example, tank with hammer and shield is extremely good in dealing with tight hordes, also he s great at exucution wounded units, and has high damage at fat single targets with armor, but his weak spot is mobility for killing single targets in some distance. in this situation could help ranged weapons like scepter (momentum and stun making great combo with hammers), pistols, even swords, and so on... so i usually have 4 well rounded heroes, each of them can hold 1 side of a city. this allows me not to have so many heroes, to spend less money on equipment and inn, to gain more exp, and to have better equipment overall. instead im making good economics, and building solid defences)
Hey Green! That's a really interesting approach, thank you for sharing, well rounded heroes is about the opposite of what I do, but super cool it's working for you! Thanks for sharing!
Also i forgot to mention one important thing, my style of playing allows me to make heroes with any good weapons, and not to wait or reroll for certain one for certain build. So u get flexibility and focus on early economics)
The one thing where Tome of Secrets debuff is shining is against bosses (and to a lesser degree against any elite targets). When the boss is isolated (they usually are), just place one your guy close and cast weakening touch on a boss. Not only that will make the boss absolutely harmless, but it also takes his resistance to a severe negative value, usually to the min threshold of -50%. Note that it also affects your guy, but can be healed by a single health potion. Very satisfying. And with good propagation stats the lightning is very powerfull. Tome of secrets is one of my favorite veapons for guys with propagation stats and Flexibility perk.
Hey art, thanks for the comment, but one thing I've heard differently on is that resistance on enemies cannot go negative. During my next run if I have time it's easy enough to test, so I'll try it out. This would be a big difference from my understanding of the mechanic and might actually make it worth something. I know for sure that resistance reduction on heroes can't lower enemy resist below zero, but perhaps this skill works differently? 🤔 As for bosses that's an interesting idea, though I rarely let them hang around and hit me anyways.
I have just had hilarious situation with the tome. I've faced an elite Boomer on the 5th night. This thing had several thousand HP, huge resistances and healed good chunk of it's heal bar every turn. It was practically unkillable with what I had on this flank. So, I've cleared all other enemies around it and left one of my heroes near it, while casted weakening touch on it with the other hero. On the enemy turn it blew itself for 0 dmg. The skill is niche, but quite playable.
Im falling in love with two handed axe.I think this weapon has to much in terms of flexibility.The strongest move is actually buff thats provide you big damage boost for 2 turns for any damage type(You can just have two handed axe in second option and just use buff each turn for any bow/melee/magic weapon to create a really big hits,any aoe attack becomes just stupid one shot button with this buff).I find this weapon to be just op for any melee damage guy even its not your main weapon(You just use rage and jump arround like crazy with some skill range).On top of that it has best aoe attack in the game,its really cheap and high damage nuke which has a huge reach with jump.Sometimes i just ended with like 6 great axes on each of my hero.Utility provided by cheap jump and dmg buff is insane.My most beloved build is spear+axe with blood magic+organic+body builder combo,if you can find guy with this perks its just becomes no brain one shot machine with 1 k life.
People love 2 handed axe and I still have't seen the light, but it's comment like this алексей ребедаев that make me think that I need to give it another try! Thank you for pushing me to try new things!
Since you have the video made already Cutting this up into 3 Seperate videos would be nice Meele/Ranged/Magic And then maybe add an outro for each video on some builds, Great video tho Thanks!
Hey Vync! So Builds is the next video I'm currently working on... Since most of the builds cross damage types I thought it made more sense to do the weapons intro and then builds. But thank you for the feedback, I appreciate you taking the time to comment!
Love this! Not so much a beginner, but cool to see your opinions on the game. Myself, I usually stick to magic and ranged dmg and forgo all melee most of the time. I haven't gotten through apoc 5 yet though.
Keeping your distance is definitely a smart move, but I've been pleasantly surprised by how well melee can work. Might be worth queueing up a run on an easier map (keep the Apoc low) and try a melee only run... you might be surprised how it changes your perspective!
The biggest reason why I like the tome of secrets a lot is because I treat it like artillery. Put a mage up in a watchtower, give them a tome of secrets, and I find they can usually hold down a wall by themselves. But still a newb, working my way through the third haven, so I don't exactly put much weight on my opinion
If it's working for you, don't stop! :) I generally don't like watch towers because sometimes you really just need to move around, but perhaps I should try an all watch towers / skill range run... that could be really interesting. Thanks for the inspiration!
Yeah, Tome of Secrets is an amazing crowd clearer. I got a mage with the trinket that gives the meteor blast, too. Very high mana usage, but they do work. Stick him on a watchtower in a corner, and can cover 2 sides at a time. Bonus points if you find a lightning scroll to pop, too.
@@aldenpotamus I personally love watch towers with teleportation networks for my archers and mages. Put a highly specialized mage and archer on a network of 4 ish towers and they can support the whole map. But that is a lot of investment so I understand why it isn't the best.
Definitely something I want to try... so many things to test and so little time! Thanks for letting me know about your success with towers and warpgates!
the one-handed axe was the first weapon to really wow me when i unlocked it and gave it a try in the early waves of the second map, however i found that it was a bit lacking when the bulkies and boomers started showing up, granted i didnt have a proper grasp of the character builds and oppertunism and havent really used it much since as ive been favoring more ranged weapons. the dagger is an interesting one, i dont find myself using it a lot, but i think it potentially pairs with loads of different things, i like it on a shortbow character from time to time, either setting up a bunch of isolation kills with rain of arrows, or when i have to focus my arrow fire on tankier targets, let some of the easier prey get close for a simple jab. i really want to like the spear, because i really like the actual abillities it has, but i find all of them lackluster for one reason or another i feel similairly about the rifle as i do the spear, i think i'd use it a lot more if hip shot had a 4th use, maybe even if it had it swapped for one of the rifle shot uses that cost 2AP before my typical line-up was very bow heavy, ive been really enjoying those, tho ive been pivoting towards a more magic centric line-up recently and have really grown to love the druid staff, very satisfying to delete wave after wave with bees. the wand, scepter and tome of secrets i should propably give some more attention, but i dont find them all that interesting personally, as for the orb, i adore the deathray but the cost is so prohibitive in a lot of cases. the powerstaff i started out disliking but like you i turned around on that one, mostly using it as a supporting secondary to the two-handed hammer, stunning an entire side of the map for 2 mana per turn is outside of wiping a wave with bees one of the most satisfying things in the game
A lot of the weapons you listed as not loving are the 2AP primary attack weapons... and I think that's a bit piece of the puzzle... it's so hard to overcome that. Overall though I've found most weapons can sign with the right plan and some luck. So I'd encourage you to keep testing and trying things out, you might find some new favorites!
@@aldenpotamus oh absolutely, the 2 AP cost on attacks often just feel kinda bad, but i do like just making it work from time to time, for better or worse :P out of curiosity, do you have any weapon/attack type/mechanic in mind for a potential addition to the game at a later date?
I'd love to see: - Proximity Mines (Stationary or Convert a Mob into a Boomer) - Hamstring (enemy movement causes damage) - Ability to move enemies - Non Adjacent Ricochet (Propagate at a distance) - Additional Dot Types (Bleed Dmg Multiplier / Fire Spreads) - Blind Style Debuff Just a few off the top of my head.
@@aldenpotamus i could absolutely see the fun in something that ricochets, rain of arrows to get isolated enemies, then channel your inner xena to throw a bouncing chakram ^^ i was thinking it'd be interesting to have a summoning circle as a building option, where you could invest one of your workers to instead of harvesting a corpse pile, you animate it as a dude whose strength would scale with the size of the pile, tho i realise it would be tough to balance properly as getting an additional character is a large spike in power
Nice. I haven’t been using some of these as they used to suck but now they don’t seem bad. The pistol is something I’ve slept on. Guess I should try it out!
If the game takes me in that direction then having two heroes with wands to feed themselves transfers at round start for 20%+ damage buff with no AP lost for damage abilities.
I've heard a few people mention this Hendrick, it's definitely an interesting idea, though I find it pretty rare that in later nights id have 2 wand heroes on the same side. They're so strong I generally have them soloing a side... but maybe I'll do an all wands run and create the ultimate transfer ouroboros! 😂
What you certainly know, but did not mention is that the 2H Axe Buff ability is not necessarily self-cast. Makes not a lot of intuitive sense, since the axe wielder would probably be the one berserking, but if you buff your high AoE ally like Short Bow or Tome of Secrets guys to make sure nobody survives with 12 HP is something I found noteworthy. I have found your content by googling some help for Lakeburg. I guess you are not meant to pass all the levels in your first go and while I got to the boss in every of my runs, I am on my 4th try now and haven't come close to beating the boss. I guess my main mistake is that I always go for the "value" level-ups (oh rare mana you say? Certainly looks more appealing than common isolation). Also I just recently learned that isolation and opportunism is NOT just for skills that have a multiplier for them (like propagation or multi-hit) -_- That probably factored in too, haha. Great stuff. Also I never thought about mixing weapon sets with different dmg types (even though there is a perk for that). I always thought ranged guys get ranged weapons, etc. Have to think some things over there.
While you can 1 shot the maps it's definitely not the expectation... it's a hard game and learning is part of it! 2H axe but can be used on others, but I often find it a little clunky... good observation, thanks for the comment!
@@aldenpotamus As a matter of fact, last night, on my 4th try, Lakeburg was absolutely trivial. I over-prepared with 3 Boss killers (one rifler, one multistrike wander and one scepter wielder) and I didn't need that at all. My scepter guy 2 shot the 3rd boss phase. I guess you can one-shot them, since I one-shot the 2nd town, I was way down on my unlockables. Only unlocking the seer in the middle of my 1st lakeburg run and the teleporting pad late in my 3rd. Thanks for the great content. Just right now watching your production phase vid and learning a lot. I never went for the ruins much but just bumrushed 3 mines + upgrades and while it may pay off later it makes me feel very weak early and I need to use lots of resources (like mana) and use my lvl 0 items for way too many nights.
Your 2nd weapon set boots your overall stats with whatever is on those weapons right? Or do those stats only "turn on" when you switch to that weapon? For example, maybe i have a wand on my main set and then a pistol with +10% damage on my 2nd set. I believe the game shows the damage increase on your main stats, but I wasnt sure if it is actually applying that damage boost to both weapon sets?
@@aldenpotamus Thanks! Does it cost anything to toggle? When you're saying that weapon A pairs well with weapon B, do you mean for set 1 and 2 or for main and offhand? PS. One suggestion for these vids - you seem to know the perks and omens very well, so you are clicking them immediatelly, so the tooltip with description gets displayed for only a brief moment. It is difficult to read it, and you need to go back and pause, but sometimes it is so fast, that it is difficult to even pause at the right moment. Maybe you can hover over the perk/omen/weapon for a second or so to let viewers see the description?
No cost to switch and you can do it as much as you'd like. Good reminder, I'll try to do better about showing my choices! Thanks for the feedback as always!
I mean, a multi-hit initiator dagger can both clear waves and kill bosses in single turns, and all you ever do is just press your 3 skill. Especially if Specialist. Game over if paired with a warp crystal. I also find it weird that you're so insistent on skills hitting every available square. If my 2 AP skill that hits in a plus is hitting 3 enemies, then I'm still being 1.5x more efficient than my 1 AP single target skills. Edit: I find the poison skill on hand crossbows great for big enemies. Just pelt them twice and you don't have to worry about the big enemy for the next 3 turns since they can't move anywhere
Good points Sensha, I think that certain skills are just easier to utilize than others. 1.5x efficiency for a mana cost probably isn't enough to justify the spend for me. No question the poison skill on the hand crossbow is amazing for stopping a boomer or bulky till you're more equipped to deal with it. Thanks for the feedback, appreciate the comment!
So the offhand has it's own damage range, which is independent of the main hand, but if you have +stats (damage, crit etc) on the offhand they will also improve the main hand.
There's a patch for PC that isn't out yet on console, Ishtar hasn't shared when they'll be able to push that patch, but I know they're working on it! Also many of the weapon balance changes arent on console yet, just FYI! Thanks for checking Queens!
Idk why when I ask people good weapons for poison builds, most people say druid staff... I find myself liking dagger multishot way better, since I can do both aoe and st damage... I mean, I had a guy with +4 multishots that dealt 228 poison per hit... can the druid staff do better than that?
I mean I've stacked 2,000 poison on a target with bees + good contagion play I was able to share it with others... it requires both the poison and debuff trees. But I think the more "conventional" reason I love druid staff is for wave clear moreso than single target. Two casts of bees will obliterate an entire side and then a few centipedes will spread the poison to those who remain. Dagger is great for single target poisoning and then spreading those many stacks to others, but you'll never get the same level of cannon fodder decimation. That being said both are good and poison builds are extremely strong. Thanks for the comment Gabrielfm!
Oh also I forgot to mention that the rather low direct damage on bees means the propagate can really go ham with bounces without fear of it cutting itself off too early and losing bounces.
it feels so alien not to have lowered movement on quickshot or multi hit on blaze, opportunism with stacked multi hits are how i final beat lakeberg, just nuclear amounts of damage do you know if damage modifiers are multiplicative with one another or additive
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Great breakdown of the weapon changes from earlier versions, really helpful to see how they changed and the potential new builds. Thanks for doing these guides!
Absolutely my pleasure, thanks for watching!
The two handed axe pairs well with a ranged weapon to create a hole in the center of a pack to leap in and spin
Yup, if spin is your primary goal you definitely need a way to open up a spot to land in and then leap back out.
Power staff is a nice combo with great axe
Need to try this one.
I love using the magic missile with high bonus to multi hit. Especially the extra hits before Killing Anything that round. Can really weaken a massive amount of enemies at the beginning of a turn or slap a tanky enemy for lots of damage
Aleph, I can see that you have a discerning pallette 😂 *chef's kiss*
I’ve enjoyed pairing the tome of secrets with the perk that gives 1% opportunism for every debuff applied, using the propagate debuff for 2 AP then finishing with the lightning strike can absolutely decimate an entire horde. I am playing on low difficulties though, so just my experience. Feels nice to get +40% opportunism from a buff though
Sadist is the name of that perk and interest using the debuff from Tome to proc it. Thanks for sharing Andrew, it's always nice to hear what's working for people new and old. Cheers!
This is awesome. Very thorough and clear. I don't even have the game yet but I've watched up to this point. I think I'll stop here for now as I want to explore it myself in regards to what works for me and what doesn't, rather than just sticking to builds you probably provide in your next video. Special thanks for keeping this light on spoilers and not trying to funnel the audience into particular few combinations you like the most.
I think that's a great plan, report back when you do get the game! It's an amazing game enjoy!
Just finished the last toturial video and you released this one 30sec later when i refreshed the page😅
Flawless timing 😂
Been waiting for this guide for a while now. After watching this, one of the notable that you've said in this guide is that you can change the angle of the rain of arrows of shortbow by pressing F. I've been using shortbow ever since but always having a hard time repositioning the hero so that it can hit as many as possible 😅 thanks for that info 👌💪
The F thing is really handy if a little hard to understand. Always a pleasure to see a comment from you Paperbot and so glad this video helped!
You are making great work for lovers of this game (old and new)👍. I have played this game almost 90 hours and have beaten a few apocalypse tier levels, and yet I still learned a lot from your tips and detailed explanations. I will definitely check your future guides.
So glad to hear it! My goal is always to be a bit like good children's TV... newbies love it but even the adults (experienced players) find some tidbits to enjoy too. Thanks for the kind words!
Great video.
One thing about tome debuff I used it to debuff resistances on bosses. I knew a lot less about effective builds and struggled at first with bosses. But I noticed the debuff propagates.
So what i used to do is park hero next to boss, cast debuff and it bounces between hero and boss. Driving them into negative 150%+.
So tome for me was a necessary staple for big bosses
It's a great strat that i've seen a couple times (using a hero who's turn is done as a propagate enabler is very clever. I'm genreally not a huge fan of tome, but I see people using it to great effect!
Thanks for the comment!
Thanks for your support and effort :D I'm new, and it is helping me a lot. Every time a play new I'm looking for someone who knows much more than me so that I can learn something and I found you!
So glad you found the channel! Welcome!!!
Thanks for explaining all the weapons skills and how to get the best of them from your experience.
Lots of work there, over 1h but not too long since every minute is dedicated to real explanations and interesting intels.
Now I'll have to watch all the playlist cause I'm pretty sure I'll find interesting things to learn even in aspects I know quite well, damn you 🤣😉
I hope you do! Builds are coming this Sunday (I hope)! Thanks for the comment, happy watching!
@@aldenpotamus Can't wait for Sunday then 😀
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I just love dagger + magic orb, start with poison dagger to create isolate target end then streak on isolation kills with main attack of those weapons
+1 that's a solid combo... I need to use daggers more, I love them so much! Thanks for reminding me!
Just awesome guide. Been loving to learn this game!
Thanks a lot
So glad you liked it! It's an amazing game with a lot of complexity, glad I can help decode a little bit of it!
Thanks for watching!
This video is something reallly interesting, very good. Now I think builds in other ways that I don't see initially.
Amazing Frankeinstein, I'm so happy to hear that maybe it opened your eyes to some new options. That exactly what I strive to do!
The one thing I would change on the mechanics for sure is that instead of higher dodge the farther your target is I would just say it diminishes accuracy.
I think that's a subtle but important distinction @Bergerons_Review . Inaccuracy is one of those stats that so rarely comes into play in my experience that I think that nuance was lost because I don't spend a lot of time thinking about it... but that doesn't make your observation any less true! Thanks for the comment!
Thanks for this upload, been waiting for this guide 👌
My pleasure!
I owned the game from the first day it was available for purchase (even though I generally suck at roguelites). Watching your vids recently has helped me a ton. I was losing interest in the game until your explanations of things helped me unlock my brain lol.
MeanKno, that's one of the nicest comments I've ever received. Really makes me feel like I'm doing something right knowing that my videos are helping people enjoy a challenging games! Thanks for letting me know!
Great video. Well worth waiting to chronicle all the weapons after the 1.0 changes.
Thanks yah kindly!
Nice introduction to the weapons.
Lately I have been trying to use weapons that I don't usually pick because of the 1000 actions on the weapon unlocks and have been pleasantly surprised by a good amount of them.
Managed to pick the accessory that recovers 14mp for an action in the first night and used with the tome and the critical runes perk keeping the mp low on purpose for a 28-32% crit chance on the perk while spamming fireball and Lightning bolt, really fun.
And yeah the pistol feels so good, really like it as well.
Yup that skill that restores mana is "Profound Inspiration" and it's a game changer on the right hero! Gotta love it, and I really like the idea of using it with Critical Runes, very smart!
thats why i love this game, because u can play it in many ways! i make it quite different.
for example I begin to build heroes from 4 tasks that most often arise: to kill tight horde, to kill many single targets, to kill bosses and special units, to kill low hp units. i make each hero well rounded for solving each of these tasks. for example, archer have great ability to kill tight hordes with his spells, and high crit+power shots allows him to kill fat targets even trough armor, but he's suffering in dealing with many single and wounded targets. so bow has a good sinergy with hand crossbow or wand because of their multi casting with a low damage, multi casting is also very good with crit (magic damage is also helpfull in some situations). or another example, tank with hammer and shield is extremely good in dealing with tight hordes, also he s great at exucution wounded units, and has high damage at fat single targets with armor, but his weak spot is mobility for killing single targets in some distance. in this situation could help ranged weapons like scepter (momentum and stun making great combo with hammers), pistols, even swords, and so on...
so i usually have 4 well rounded heroes, each of them can hold 1 side of a city. this allows me not to have so many heroes, to spend less money on equipment and inn, to gain more exp, and to have better equipment overall. instead im making good economics, and building solid defences)
Hey Green! That's a really interesting approach, thank you for sharing, well rounded heroes is about the opposite of what I do, but super cool it's working for you! Thanks for sharing!
@@aldenpotamus no problem, thanks for video, i was searching for good weapon sinergy receipts, and found much more)
Also i forgot to mention one important thing, my style of playing allows me to make heroes with any good weapons, and not to wait or reroll for certain one for certain build. So u get flexibility and focus on early economics)
Very interesting! I'd really love to see this in action as at the moment I have an inkling of what it might look like but far from a complete picture!
Thx for the video!
Anytime Alex!
Amazing video man. Very informative. Keep it up!!
Thanks so much Christian! Really appreciate the kind words!
Fantastic tutorial videos, thank you!
So glad you liked it! Cheers!!
The one thing where Tome of Secrets debuff is shining is against bosses (and to a lesser degree against any elite targets). When the boss is isolated (they usually are), just place one your guy close and cast weakening touch on a boss. Not only that will make the boss absolutely harmless, but it also takes his resistance to a severe negative value, usually to the min threshold of -50%. Note that it also affects your guy, but can be healed by a single health potion. Very satisfying. And with good propagation stats the lightning is very powerfull. Tome of secrets is one of my favorite veapons for guys with propagation stats and Flexibility perk.
Hey art, thanks for the comment, but one thing I've heard differently on is that resistance on enemies cannot go negative. During my next run if I have time it's easy enough to test, so I'll try it out. This would be a big difference from my understanding of the mechanic and might actually make it worth something.
I know for sure that resistance reduction on heroes can't lower enemy resist below zero, but perhaps this skill works differently? 🤔
As for bosses that's an interesting idea, though I rarely let them hang around and hit me anyways.
@@aldenpotamus Yes, resistance reduction stat can't make enemy resistance negative, but the resistance debuff can.
Interesting, I'll have to test this out next time I have a tome on me! Thanks for letting me know!
I have just had hilarious situation with the tome. I've faced an elite Boomer on the 5th night. This thing had several thousand HP, huge resistances and healed good chunk of it's heal bar every turn. It was practically unkillable with what I had on this flank. So, I've cleared all other enemies around it and left one of my heroes near it, while casted weakening touch on it with the other hero. On the enemy turn it blew itself for 0 dmg. The skill is niche, but quite playable.
Hah, amazing 😂
Right on time I was just wondering about this
I try! Hope it passes muster!
Great "game design review" video~~
Thank you Jason! There's DLC on the horizon and I can't wait!
Im falling in love with two handed axe.I think this weapon has to much in terms of flexibility.The strongest move is actually buff thats provide you big damage boost for 2 turns for any damage type(You can just have two handed axe in second option and just use buff each turn for any bow/melee/magic weapon to create a really big hits,any aoe attack becomes just stupid one shot button with this buff).I find this weapon to be just op for any melee damage guy even its not your main weapon(You just use rage and jump arround like crazy with some skill range).On top of that it has best aoe attack in the game,its really cheap and high damage nuke which has a huge reach with jump.Sometimes i just ended with like 6 great axes on each of my hero.Utility provided by cheap jump and dmg buff is insane.My most beloved build is spear+axe with blood magic+organic+body builder combo,if you can find guy with this perks its just becomes no brain one shot machine with 1 k life.
People love 2 handed axe and I still have't seen the light, but it's comment like this алексей ребедаев that make me think that I need to give it another try! Thank you for pushing me to try new things!
@@aldenpotamus its really nice when game give you opportunity to play in different ways.You're welcome
Agreed, diversity of play is so important to the longevity of a game!
Since you have the video made already Cutting this up into 3 Seperate videos would be nice Meele/Ranged/Magic And then maybe add an outro for each video on some builds, Great video tho Thanks!
Hey Vync! So Builds is the next video I'm currently working on... Since most of the builds cross damage types I thought it made more sense to do the weapons intro and then builds. But thank you for the feedback, I appreciate you taking the time to comment!
Love this! Not so much a beginner, but cool to see your opinions on the game. Myself, I usually stick to magic and ranged dmg and forgo all melee most of the time. I haven't gotten through apoc 5 yet though.
Keeping your distance is definitely a smart move, but I've been pleasantly surprised by how well melee can work. Might be worth queueing up a run on an easier map (keep the Apoc low) and try a melee only run... you might be surprised how it changes your perspective!
The biggest reason why I like the tome of secrets a lot is because I treat it like artillery. Put a mage up in a watchtower, give them a tome of secrets, and I find they can usually hold down a wall by themselves. But still a newb, working my way through the third haven, so I don't exactly put much weight on my opinion
If it's working for you, don't stop! :) I generally don't like watch towers because sometimes you really just need to move around, but perhaps I should try an all watch towers / skill range run... that could be really interesting. Thanks for the inspiration!
Yeah, Tome of Secrets is an amazing crowd clearer. I got a mage with the trinket that gives the meteor blast, too. Very high mana usage, but they do work. Stick him on a watchtower in a corner, and can cover 2 sides at a time. Bonus points if you find a lightning scroll to pop, too.
Meteor ring + blood magic needs to happen one of these days!!!
@@aldenpotamus I personally love watch towers with teleportation networks for my archers and mages. Put a highly specialized mage and archer on a network of 4 ish towers and they can support the whole map. But that is a lot of investment so I understand why it isn't the best.
Definitely something I want to try... so many things to test and so little time! Thanks for letting me know about your success with towers and warpgates!
the one-handed axe was the first weapon to really wow me when i unlocked it and gave it a try in the early waves of the second map, however i found that it was a bit lacking when the bulkies and boomers started showing up, granted i didnt have a proper grasp of the character builds and oppertunism and havent really used it much since as ive been favoring more ranged weapons.
the dagger is an interesting one, i dont find myself using it a lot, but i think it potentially pairs with loads of different things, i like it on a shortbow character from time to time, either setting up a bunch of isolation kills with rain of arrows, or when i have to focus my arrow fire on tankier targets, let some of the easier prey get close for a simple jab.
i really want to like the spear, because i really like the actual abillities it has, but i find all of them lackluster for one reason or another
i feel similairly about the rifle as i do the spear, i think i'd use it a lot more if hip shot had a 4th use, maybe even if it had it swapped for one of the rifle shot uses that cost 2AP
before my typical line-up was very bow heavy, ive been really enjoying those, tho ive been pivoting towards a more magic centric line-up recently and have really grown to love the druid staff, very satisfying to delete wave after wave with bees.
the wand, scepter and tome of secrets i should propably give some more attention, but i dont find them all that interesting personally, as for the orb, i adore the deathray but the cost is so prohibitive in a lot of cases.
the powerstaff i started out disliking but like you i turned around on that one, mostly using it as a supporting secondary to the two-handed hammer, stunning an entire side of the map for 2 mana per turn is outside of wiping a wave with bees one of the most satisfying things in the game
A lot of the weapons you listed as not loving are the 2AP primary attack weapons... and I think that's a bit piece of the puzzle... it's so hard to overcome that. Overall though I've found most weapons can sign with the right plan and some luck. So I'd encourage you to keep testing and trying things out, you might find some new favorites!
@@aldenpotamus oh absolutely, the 2 AP cost on attacks often just feel kinda bad, but i do like just making it work from time to time, for better or worse :P
out of curiosity, do you have any weapon/attack type/mechanic in mind for a potential addition to the game at a later date?
I'd love to see:
- Proximity Mines (Stationary or Convert a Mob into a Boomer)
- Hamstring (enemy movement causes damage)
- Ability to move enemies
- Non Adjacent Ricochet (Propagate at a distance)
- Additional Dot Types (Bleed Dmg Multiplier / Fire Spreads)
- Blind Style Debuff
Just a few off the top of my head.
@@aldenpotamus i could absolutely see the fun in something that ricochets, rain of arrows to get isolated enemies, then channel your inner xena to throw a bouncing chakram ^^
i was thinking it'd be interesting to have a summoning circle as a building option, where you could invest one of your workers to instead of harvesting a corpse pile, you animate it as a dude whose strength would scale with the size of the pile, tho i realise it would be tough to balance properly as getting an additional character is a large spike in power
We want Builds!!!
And tier list!
Sunday for builds!
Which tier list do you want? Omen? Perks (again)? Weapons? Builds?
@@aldenpotamus 1. Weapons tier (short). 2. Perk tier (rebalanced). 3. Builds (main). 4. Omens for desert, if you wish so.
I took a screenshot of this, I have two more beginner guides and then maybe a return to some tier lists! Who knows what we'll do next!
waiting the next video
Sunday!
Nice. I haven’t been using some of these as they used to suck but now they don’t seem bad. The pistol is something I’ve slept on. Guess I should try it out!
No better time!
If the game takes me in that direction then having two heroes with wands to feed themselves transfers at round start for 20%+ damage buff with no AP lost for damage abilities.
I've heard a few people mention this Hendrick, it's definitely an interesting idea, though I find it pretty rare that in later nights id have 2 wand heroes on the same side. They're so strong I generally have them soloing a side... but maybe I'll do an all wands run and create the ultimate transfer ouroboros! 😂
What you certainly know, but did not mention is that the 2H Axe Buff ability is not necessarily self-cast. Makes not a lot of intuitive sense, since the axe wielder would probably be the one berserking, but if you buff your high AoE ally like Short Bow or Tome of Secrets guys to make sure nobody survives with 12 HP is something I found noteworthy.
I have found your content by googling some help for Lakeburg. I guess you are not meant to pass all the levels in your first go and while I got to the boss in every of my runs, I am on my 4th try now and haven't come close to beating the boss. I guess my main mistake is that I always go for the "value" level-ups (oh rare mana you say? Certainly looks more appealing than common isolation). Also I just recently learned that isolation and opportunism is NOT just for skills that have a multiplier for them (like propagation or multi-hit) -_- That probably factored in too, haha.
Great stuff. Also I never thought about mixing weapon sets with different dmg types (even though there is a perk for that). I always thought ranged guys get ranged weapons, etc. Have to think some things over there.
While you can 1 shot the maps it's definitely not the expectation... it's a hard game and learning is part of it!
2H axe but can be used on others, but I often find it a little clunky... good observation, thanks for the comment!
@@aldenpotamus As a matter of fact, last night, on my 4th try, Lakeburg was absolutely trivial. I over-prepared with 3 Boss killers (one rifler, one multistrike wander and one scepter wielder) and I didn't need that at all. My scepter guy 2 shot the 3rd boss phase.
I guess you can one-shot them, since I one-shot the 2nd town, I was way down on my unlockables. Only unlocking the seer in the middle of my 1st lakeburg run and the teleporting pad late in my 3rd.
Thanks for the great content. Just right now watching your production phase vid and learning a lot. I never went for the ruins much but just bumrushed 3 mines + upgrades and while it may pay off later it makes me feel very weak early and I need to use lots of resources (like mana) and use my lvl 0 items for way too many nights.
Grats on the wins and glad to hear the guides are helping! Sounds like you had a few resounding victories! Grats!
Wait... So, potentially, a lightning strike can bounce between 2 enemies for the entire 10 hits?..
If they have enough HP and are isolated from other mobs, yes. Though as soon as one dies it stops.
Your 2nd weapon set boots your overall stats with whatever is on those weapons right? Or do those stats only "turn on" when you switch to that weapon? For example, maybe i have a wand on my main set and then a pistol with +10% damage on my 2nd set. I believe the game shows the damage increase on your main stats, but I wasnt sure if it is actually applying that damage boost to both weapon sets?
You are always affected by whatever modifiers your weapons have, whether or not they’re in the active set.
Fishworshipper is correct, stats are always on which means that off hands are a great source of stats as well as capabilities.
And what about the second set of weapons? There are 2x2 weapon slots on the character's screen.
So each hero can have two weapon sets. Swap between them with tab. That means you can have 2 1-handers with 2 off hands, or 2 two handers.
@@aldenpotamus Thanks! Does it cost anything to toggle? When you're saying that weapon A pairs well with weapon B, do you mean for set 1 and 2 or for main and offhand?
PS. One suggestion for these vids - you seem to know the perks and omens very well, so you are clicking them immediatelly, so the tooltip with description gets displayed for only a brief moment. It is difficult to read it, and you need to go back and pause, but sometimes it is so fast, that it is difficult to even pause at the right moment. Maybe you can hover over the perk/omen/weapon for a second or so to let viewers see the description?
No cost to switch and you can do it as much as you'd like.
Good reminder, I'll try to do better about showing my choices! Thanks for the feedback as always!
I mean, a multi-hit initiator dagger can both clear waves and kill bosses in single turns, and all you ever do is just press your 3 skill. Especially if Specialist. Game over if paired with a warp crystal.
I also find it weird that you're so insistent on skills hitting every available square. If my 2 AP skill that hits in a plus is hitting 3 enemies, then I'm still being 1.5x more efficient than my 1 AP single target skills.
Edit: I find the poison skill on hand crossbows great for big enemies. Just pelt them twice and you don't have to worry about the big enemy for the next 3 turns since they can't move anywhere
Good points Sensha, I think that certain skills are just easier to utilize than others. 1.5x efficiency for a mana cost probably isn't enough to justify the spend for me. No question the poison skill on the hand crossbow is amazing for stopping a boomer or bulky till you're more equipped to deal with it.
Thanks for the feedback, appreciate the comment!
the raw damage of the offhand does it add to its primary weapons?
So the offhand has it's own damage range, which is independent of the main hand, but if you have +stats (damage, crit etc) on the offhand they will also improve the main hand.
Is the momentum counter for sword a PC only setting? I'm playing on console and it does not seem to exist.
There's a patch for PC that isn't out yet on console, Ishtar hasn't shared when they'll be able to push that patch, but I know they're working on it! Also many of the weapon balance changes arent on console yet, just FYI! Thanks for checking Queens!
Idk why when I ask people good weapons for poison builds, most people say druid staff... I find myself liking dagger multishot way better, since I can do both aoe and st damage... I mean, I had a guy with +4 multishots that dealt 228 poison per hit... can the druid staff do better than that?
I mean I've stacked 2,000 poison on a target with bees + good contagion play I was able to share it with others... it requires both the poison and debuff trees. But I think the more "conventional" reason I love druid staff is for wave clear moreso than single target. Two casts of bees will obliterate an entire side and then a few centipedes will spread the poison to those who remain. Dagger is great for single target poisoning and then spreading those many stacks to others, but you'll never get the same level of cannon fodder decimation.
That being said both are good and poison builds are extremely strong. Thanks for the comment Gabrielfm!
Oh also I forgot to mention that the rather low direct damage on bees means the propagate can really go ham with bounces without fear of it cutting itself off too early and losing bounces.
it feels so alien not to have lowered movement on quickshot or multi hit on blaze, opportunism with stacked multi hits are how i final beat lakeberg, just nuclear amounts of damage
do you know if damage modifiers are multiplicative with one another or additive
My understanding is that they are all multiplicative, which is confirmed by a comment in the last spell wiki, and a few other comments around here.