How Chinese Migrants Are Building a New Empire in Africa

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  • Опубликовано: 13 окт 2014
  • On Thursday, October 9th, IPI hosted a Distinguished Author Series event, featuring Howard W. French, author of China’s Second Continent: How A Million Migrants Are Building a New Empire in Africa.
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  • @laminjadama1808
    @laminjadama1808 6 лет назад +16

    Jealous is killing the western

  • @akavitsuma
    @akavitsuma 9 лет назад +63

    also, thousands of African students study in china and return to Africa with advanced degrees and help their countries. African students experience in China is overall a positive one.

    • @juanitolee4605
      @juanitolee4605 6 лет назад

      akavitsuma 8

    • @8584easy
      @8584easy 2 года назад +2

      No foreigner is ever a citizen of Africa. The whites in South Africa and Arabs were never from Africa. Hence, you see the divide since Europe and Arabs joined to destroy and take African slaves, land and goods. Similarly in the same China is doing the same while escaping over crowding and unnecessary challenges. How ever, Africans don't need new Immigrants when you apply the Chinese immigration laws to match the National defense interests. Whites in South Africa and other parts of the World live in a stolen land but one must not claim to be an owner. All Black African Descent in European nations, in Asia and Middle East must reunite and see that Africans don't need this rapid Development that will benefit Foreigners as Sri Lanka is toast and debt trap

    • @mo5909
      @mo5909 2 года назад +1

      As some from the Horn Of Afric, please ignore this idiot ​ @8584easy

    • @augustuskumu750
      @augustuskumu750 2 года назад

      They return because the Chinese will NEVER give them jobs to do in China. Chinese will NEVER give African jobs; trust me. Even in the US, when a Chinese is a boss, he/she will NEVER employ an African. They employ their own. African students who study in the West get equal opportunities to work in various companies. These African are helping build Africa in various ways.... You have NEVER experienced how racist Chinese are.

    • @cimexid
      @cimexid 2 года назад

      Do you really know who made this debt trap? Do some researches Be4 your moron comments. FACT: Only 10% debt of SL is fr China and rate is the lowest and can be extended.

  • @PSdissenter
    @PSdissenter 9 лет назад +206

    Hahahahahaha. I'm Eritrean and have witnessed the conduct of the Chinese people coming to my homeland over the course of many years. They are very cordial and respectful. Are there the occasional bad eggs? Of course, as there are amongst all people...but to paint the relationship in such a conspicuously and transparently negative way is just disingenuous. Yes, the Chinese are not doing business in Africa or the Global South (or Europe for that matter) out of the goodness of their hearts. Business, after all, is essentially about opportunism, regardless of what scale it's on - whether a roadside lemonade stand or state capitalism...BUT, they're better partners for Africa than the West has been.

    • @deadplanetexplorations6953
      @deadplanetexplorations6953 9 лет назад +7

      PSdissenter I know the guy basically saying to them hey don't panic africa can't keep up the infrastructure and watch china treat them like we did that's what i heard.

    • @PSdissenter
      @PSdissenter 9 лет назад +4

      TheGoddessIsis LovesDiamonds Yeah, I think it's also a way to manipulate discourse on social media. Lol, it's an amusing tactic.

    • @alfredeshun9914
      @alfredeshun9914 9 лет назад +2

      :-)

    • @PSdissenter
      @PSdissenter 8 лет назад +3

      *****
      Civilized countries? They set up exploitative economies to enrich themselves. Fuck you.

    • @asmara956
      @asmara956 7 лет назад +8

      PSdissenter Bless Eritrea.

  • @mnunuseme9564
    @mnunuseme9564 8 лет назад +130

    chinese respects african culture unlike other western countries who look down african..well done chinese.. you have kind hearts

    • @Trinilicia
      @Trinilicia 7 лет назад +10

      Mnunu seme go by your own experiences. This ignorant persons two experiences are not yours! They will always try to fill your head with negativity. No wonder they are now so interested in what's going on with Africa. HOW MANY DECADES DID THE WEST IGNORE DEVELOPMENT IN AFRICA. All the aid and fund raisers yet no change

    • @Trinilicia
      @Trinilicia 7 лет назад +2

      KNOWLEDGE!96 honey, go somewhere with your lack of knowledge. The Chinese are America's largest debtee! Do me a favor and don't waste time replying because YOU'RE A TROLL

    • @Trinilicia
      @Trinilicia 7 лет назад +2

      KNOWLEDGE!96 you are WRONG troll. Now you are a BLOCKED troll :-D

    • @user-yy7xs7rm3c
      @user-yy7xs7rm3c 7 лет назад +10

      (❁´◡`❁)Thank you ,we Chinese believe“when you're poor,live for yourself;when you're rich,don't forget others”Really happy to help other countries

    • @Trinilicia
      @Trinilicia 7 лет назад +4

      我想回家吃饭
      I think it is wonderful that China has shown great results in such a short period of time in Africa!
      China is America's largest debtee and are wise for investing in a large continent such as AFRICA 😊

  • @JIMMY-nz1ld
    @JIMMY-nz1ld 2 года назад +7

    I think the Chinese and African are doing great bcos I see the west are getting worried, that is a good sign.

  • @yufish6576
    @yufish6576 7 лет назад +42

    I am proud to be Chinese!!! Smart people! Win-Win business better than wars!!

    • @nathanvladmir5554
      @nathanvladmir5554 2 года назад

      How can I get a Chinese investor?I'm from DRC Congo but live in Eswatini 🇸🇿.

    • @8584easy
      @8584easy 2 года назад

      As long as Africans should never be Chinese Citizens and vice versa

    • @michaelanderson1650
      @michaelanderson1650 2 года назад +1

      You are right, far better than those condescending and racist criminals

    • @oliverstone9681
      @oliverstone9681 Год назад

      I agree with you 100%.

  • @akavitsuma
    @akavitsuma 9 лет назад +24

    the Chinese are actually contributing to African countries.

    • @8584easy
      @8584easy 2 года назад

      China has made a decision that American's and Europeans would because their still focused on ranking their warheads and their claim of superiority. People worldwide knew that white race has survived well with Developments technology and science

  • @hongliak3129
    @hongliak3129 9 лет назад +16

    Chinese promote peace and prosperity in actions .

    • @Ultizer
      @Ultizer 8 лет назад

      +hong liak like in Tibet & Hong Kong?

  • @KayyHong
    @KayyHong 3 года назад +5

    Brazil and India competing with China in African infrastructure building? Are you kidding? Those countries can't even afford to fund infrastructure building in their own countries! Have you seen the roads and railways in India???

    • @daniellaarthur7035
      @daniellaarthur7035 2 года назад

      He is right, they are here indeed I mean Brazil and Indians

  • @southbobbyjr
    @southbobbyjr 8 лет назад +23

    Europeans were not and will not assist in the progress of Africa. Keep up the good work China. You will be rewarded by being asked to build Chinese military bases in and near South Africa for a peaceful take over. China you will gain 45% of SA resources for you good deeds. Keep doing good and building your military China. Good job China. great roads.

    • @YouSuprised
      @YouSuprised 8 лет назад +1

      We payed billions of dollars towards progress in Africa, you do not know much about Europe then the lies that have been spread by the globalist elites!

    • @southbobbyjr
      @southbobbyjr 8 лет назад

      Africans aren't wanted in any non African countries. They can't use natural resource profits to build up their countries do to contractual agreements with European countries. Who cares? God is Great.

    • @FAFA-kr6ru
      @FAFA-kr6ru 6 лет назад

      Gesen Paradan
      Yeah, for puppets and dictators.

    • @flyerzy
      @flyerzy 5 лет назад +1

      Should we look at what the United States has done all over the world? How many military bases does the United States have around the world? Has China invaded other countries? I think you should learn the history of the world.

    • @flyerzy
      @flyerzy 5 лет назад

      The speed of future technological development is something you can't imagine. If Africa does not want to accelerate its development, African countries will only be able to sell natural resources.

  • @danielsabum8323
    @danielsabum8323 6 лет назад +5

    2 white men Talking to their White Audience about Africa on what it is good and not good for Africa? ???

  • @peterwang5196
    @peterwang5196 8 лет назад +7

    As an ethnic Chinese, I did African study since I was 15, with the help of US news organizations. I recommend you google Prof. Deborah Brautigam to get a balanced view. Also, go back to read all African economic development books before 2003 in the west, those books disappeared, the books are too embarrassing for western scholars to create their current alternative reality. I recommend all African youth to read them, so you have a sound knowledge instead of shouting bad words to vent frustrations.
    I like Howard and believe people like him play a useful role to keep China honest. But to depict Chinese as dominating control freaks are totally baseless. The only leverage China has on Africa are those loans, and China keeps on forgiving significant part of them. Even if China wants to rob Africa, the Africans and the US will not agree. Actually, China as a nation lost a lot money in Africa so far!

    • @Trinilicia
      @Trinilicia 7 лет назад +3

      Peter Wang the best part is they are not tricking and killing the citizens like Europeans have for centuries.

  • @nsimbamarcelo795
    @nsimbamarcelo795 7 лет назад +4

    We have suffered too much in Angola , war , war war , Now The Chineses are investing in Africa , African countries are paying , it is not free , USA are destroying in Libya , Yemen , Syria , Irak , Afghanistan and so on ,NAPOLEON BONAPARTE : Do not interrupt your adversary , who is making mistakes

  • @aboblocksmith
    @aboblocksmith 9 лет назад +8

    LOL, The US and Israel seem really envious that the Chinese beat them to it.

  • @andy_h_inc
    @andy_h_inc 7 лет назад +33

    China doesn't deal with Africa with this patronizing attitude ("oh you poor things - let us give you billions in aid"). China treats Africa as equals in a free market sense - this is what we can do for you, what can you do for us? This forces Africans to decide how they want to chart their destinies. Ultimately, this is better for Africa, because it allows them to decide what they want.

    • @jedhuang3817
      @jedhuang3817 7 лет назад +3

      first smart comments I have ever read after bunch of crap. what you have for what I need = what I have for what you need ....... basic matching, there is not that much free lunch now. YOu have to find a sustainable way for business and GDP growth. this is the experience from CHina for last 30 years.

    • @rap3208
      @rap3208 2 года назад

      @@8584easy THAT is your fault, why is it China's fault if your leaders are corrupt? Why are your leaders even corrupt? Who put those corrupt leaders in office? It is you! It is your fault! Next time make it a point not to elect corrupt leaders, okay?
      China knows this that is why they put all the loans as -infrastructure-related. You tak a loan for a port, you get a port. You want a loan for a hydroelectric dam, you get a dam. That leaves much less chance for your corrupt leaders to get hold of the money and run away with it.

    • @8584easy
      @8584easy 2 года назад

      I wish everyone knew that this sounds good but we the people doesn't know these agreements to its entirety due to the fact that most African countries have leaders who aare corrupt and only care for themselves. If these agreements work in transparent methods then for sure it will result in Win-Win

    • @rick-be
      @rick-be Год назад

      Well writ....

  • @Nghilifa
    @Nghilifa 9 лет назад +19

    We should be 100% self-sufficient in all matters of life. We have EVERYTHING we need to produce whatever a human being might need during a lifetime, so there's no excuse that we're not producing Airplanes, large Ships etc.. If we don't focus on being self-reliant, we'll forever be stuck in a place of being a consumer instead of being PRODUCERS (of FINISHED products I might add) .

    • @qiq6137
      @qiq6137 9 лет назад +1

      RickyboyH please be patient. build infrastructure----attract investment---world factory---large consumer---innovator---world influence, which is the line that china has exprienced

    • @stevebreezy
      @stevebreezy 9 лет назад +2

      RickyboyH they are mostly self sufficient and do most of the work the media only shows what they want you to see as always especially when we are the topic these are deals being made Africa is in a state of recovery china are the ones that import woks so they come the money they make and the labor the hire the money goes back to china anyways its a win win but its a mutual partnership between Africa and china they both benefit from china gets a lil more but you have to understand Africa is in a state of recovery from the damage the Europeans and west have don to their country the lying stealing propaganda the wars they are not worried about pointing fingers tho they are just restoring peace and structure and catching up with the rest of the world at a fast pace there are already motor vehicle companies made by Africans completely on the rise and places like Ghana example Kantaka cars they are amazing and will soon rival European and Japanese motor vehicle companies as for china they are intelligent they see opportunity and they take it

  • @hairelementsproductsceo
    @hairelementsproductsceo 9 лет назад +9

    These are the things my wife and I have been discussing for a year now. We are preparing to go ourselves!

    • @GhettoRanger01
      @GhettoRanger01 9 лет назад +1

      Do you need help packing?

    • @abrahamjackson6019
      @abrahamjackson6019 9 лет назад +6

      Africa and China were trading thousands of years ago, it's history repeating itself. Brotha Allen i'm working on my wife also, it's time to return home and leave this trouble land....

    • @AR-wj7dk
      @AR-wj7dk 6 лет назад +2

      Yes Africa needs its diaspora's help to grow. Those of us educated need to give back now. I hope to go in future

    • @sierrakamau1510
      @sierrakamau1510 5 лет назад

      @@GhettoRanger01 😊c ya

  • @7341662
    @7341662 9 лет назад +17

    So great that China is helping the future of Africa and making much needed investments. I am shamed that America ignore Africa's needs.

    • @stevepolius-nx8ip
      @stevepolius-nx8ip 3 месяца назад

      Everything in life
      Has a price
      Question is how must are we prepaired to submitt🧐😡😡wke up

  • @leebro2305
    @leebro2305 7 лет назад +5

    the table has turn, Africa is built for human habitation. well-done China the west along with the USA is anxious. Africa will develop surpass the west. just like China did.

  • @newrealitiesforafrica7316
    @newrealitiesforafrica7316 9 лет назад +2

    if it was the chinese who colonized north america, millions of native americans would have survived till this day; of course with their language and culture. go africa and china!!

    • @Ultizer
      @Ultizer 8 лет назад +1

      +NewRealitiesForAfrica Tibet & Hong Kong says otherwise, stay ignorant

  • @pardeeptandon6730
    @pardeeptandon6730 5 лет назад +3

    Historically speaking China used to trade with Africa before Columbus discovered America. Incidentally Chinese ships of that time 4 times bigger than that used by Columbus

  • @wumao50centtroll52
    @wumao50centtroll52 3 года назад +3

    2021: Was just watching an African lady train driver and her training and I am hoping to live to the day I see HSR criss-crossing the whole continent. It is truly a beginning of a new age for both Asia and Africa if the west dies not sabotage it.

  • @aliasadhana
    @aliasadhana 7 лет назад +3

    This conference depresses me,this ppl are telling us it is butter for Africans to give our resource for free tothewest than to get something done in return from the Chinese for our resource!

  • @Sean-mj9gz
    @Sean-mj9gz 9 лет назад +18

    I'm pretty sure the Chinese are not the only ones who thinks they're superior to others... The Americans most definitely feel that way, so do the Japanese, most definitely..... In fact one might argue don't everyone feel that way about their own race? I mean don't Africans feel they're faster and stronger than everyone else? .... It's more like being proud of your achievements, what's wrong with that?

    • @vincem2759
      @vincem2759 9 лет назад +1

      Why just faster and stronger? Why not smarter?

  • @curtin9
    @curtin9 9 лет назад +8

    As an American who moved from China to Africa... I have to say this talk is spot on. Glad to find a speaker making some sense on this topic.

    • @eastafrica7925
      @eastafrica7925 5 лет назад +3

      Why would anyone listen to white American? Give one reason why would anyone respect America?

    • @mrxx7471
      @mrxx7471 4 года назад +1

      East Africa they gotta keep africa divided and poor so they can keep under paying for raw materials dude

    • @rap3208
      @rap3208 3 года назад

      @Yong Zhou didn't you listen to the video? Why would chinese go to africa and sell highly expensive tech right away? Didn't you listen to the guest say he bought a 12 dollar phone in Africa? It was a knock-off but it worked. The chinese are building their market, first they sold cheap products and now that the middle class are growing, they can sell more and more expensive products, but in the meantime they are building their brands and growing their market.

    • @8584easy
      @8584easy 2 года назад

      I hope enjoying the country genuinely

  • @x-creator4460
    @x-creator4460 7 лет назад +3

    Chinese often say that they are not interested in becoming a SuperPower nor a world leader.
    But they are silently demonstrating to the world how world a leader should behave. - Just my honest observation.

  • @antrinh9919
    @antrinh9919 3 года назад +3

    Something said in the video is completely wrong for me: all construction companies are state enterprises? Paying an unskilled Chinese to work in Africa is nonsense: you have to pay twice as much as you pay them in China ... while unskilled African workers cost much less! i heard that, in the agreements it is provided that a certain number of chinese workers have the right to go to work in africa for a particular project! these are trade agreements, it is up to Africans to negotiate!

  • @fooksengloke3625
    @fooksengloke3625 8 лет назад +4

    Are NGOs really NGOs? Often these are funded by foreign governments.

  • @pauloyih1
    @pauloyih1 5 лет назад +3

    This is the situation where the Western elitism versus the Chinese pragmatism in Africa -- Chinese are and were "speaking" the local's language -- and that is how China grew in Africa and will grow in all part of the world the arrogance of the West had ignored.

  • @joanbarker2056
    @joanbarker2056 3 года назад +2

    Why is it that Americans living and working in Africa are called Expats, but in this video Chinese people are referred to as "migrants"?

  • @ulriccajulius9525
    @ulriccajulius9525 9 лет назад +9

    What if the Chinas present in africa turns out to be the what africa wanted. Just like the Japans ealy days in car production.

  • @neoiam3585
    @neoiam3585 9 лет назад +15

    In the beginning I thought, this was an objective research and objective discussion, but No! It contains a lot of nonsenses.
    Quote: “Roads and infrastructures built by Chinese aren’t lasting for long!
    It is very danger that Chinese government does business without the involvement of every party of the society of Africa’s countries. ” Who cares?
    Big question: What have US and Europe done to or done for Africa, after several hundred of years?

    • @neoiam3585
      @neoiam3585 9 лет назад +7

      The Fact: Africa’s countries now have good infrastructures to boost their economy, people are proud of what they have achieved together with the Chinese. America and Europe are welcome to come and compete with the Chinese. Don’t stand outside with pointing finger to the success story of others. Please!

    • @neoiam3585
      @neoiam3585 9 лет назад +3

      Quote: "Culture references that African countries have, are Western culture"
      so What? Instead, just go there and compete with the Chinese then. Don't sit down there and be proud of something that you're not suppose to be proud of.

    • @neoiam3585
      @neoiam3585 9 лет назад +5

      Quote: "China needs 200 hundreds years to reach to the point such as Western countries do to leads Africa." What an arrogance of Nothing!
      It sounds like, China has kidnapped the long lost child "Africa" of the West!

    • @qiq6137
      @qiq6137 9 лет назад +1

      Neo Iam china insists on the policy that never intervene the internal affairs of other courntries, so we have no interest to involve in the party. i think it is much better than meddling like what america wusually did. why the american always care about others? i really hate it. we don't need american to tell me how bad our life is. in fact many chinese enjoy the development of china.

    • @David-sh7lu
      @David-sh7lu 3 года назад

      @@neoiam3585 hat off to you, sir, can't say it better myself, but can tell this guy is a moron just by his book's title, making no senses at all, hahaha

  • @faysalyuusuf9164
    @faysalyuusuf9164 5 лет назад +3

    Chinese people are very smart people and hard workers

    • @8584easy
      @8584easy 2 года назад

      Except not all of fits for African lifestyles, Africans don't like to work like slaves but will have to now. If Africans wants to rules it's destiny

  • @hotflash8044
    @hotflash8044 8 лет назад +2

    BM have had the entire continent of Africa yet they need Asian men to actually produce a civilized society. Maybe Chinese men can teach bm to be leaders instead of whiners. SMH!

  • @Trinilicia
    @Trinilicia 7 лет назад +3

    "They don't have any consumption power" wait and see JEALOUS

  • @andykeelee
    @andykeelee 9 лет назад +5

    you did not even give the audiance the correct reference

  • @kongwee1978
    @kongwee1978 8 лет назад +12

    CCTV Africa has a lot of development documented. Too bad people are believing to the speakers that never step into Africa soil.

    • @dwight4k
      @dwight4k 8 лет назад

      +Kong Wee Peh Could you share the links with me? I'm very curious.

    • @kongwee1978
      @kongwee1978 8 лет назад

      Dwight Dunker Type CCTV Africa in the search bar and you should see the channel.

    • @dwight4k
      @dwight4k 8 лет назад

      Kong Wee Peh Thanks.
      Question: Did you watch this interview?
      Because these men have been to Africa. On a couple of occasions.
      This trend of the Chinese migration is everywhere. Even in the Caribbean.
      But the question that we should be asking is why do they do better, a lot better, than the people of the countries they migrate to?
      It seems that they are able to set up and maintain economic activities very fast.
      Instead of pointing fingers we need to put forth the effort to copy that.
      We can learn a lot from them.

    • @kongwee1978
      @kongwee1978 8 лет назад

      Dwight Dunker
      Rather then learning from China, it is the west change their attitude toward non west. China don't intervene other goverment much. China want resource and money. Other want from China, is goods, technology .....etc That why Africa and middle east willing to work with China. Even Saudi welcome Xi warmly. China can transfer knowledge and technology as Saudi wanna lessen dependency on oil. Look British want investment from China and improve some of her country infrastructure, China want some core technology transfer. Fair deal.

    • @dwight4k
      @dwight4k 8 лет назад

      Kong Wee Peh I wasn't talking about the west.
      On the other parts I agree with you.
      Africa is too dependent on charity / NGO's and that needs to change.
      Question:
      What do governments in Africa actually work on when a lot of the development is brought about by NGO's?
      It could be that I have the wrong view of Africa, but from where I'm standing it looks that way.

  • @jmat82012
    @jmat82012 6 лет назад +1

    You are right, Africa needs competition.

  • @HTeo-og1lg
    @HTeo-og1lg 5 лет назад +3

    I am ashamed that we have institutions like IPI in America that don't even have the brains to hide our true motivation in this.
    What scares the US+EU most is Africa rising and remember how she was en-slaved and raped of resources in the past, and still being ripped-off by mineral contracts signed before Africa had choices now, with better infrastructures that previously were absent. (Remember, as businesses, you can demand a lower price for resources you extract when the infrastructures to transport and load them to the ports were absent.)

  • @naocanbusi
    @naocanbusi 9 лет назад +3

    wow, this talk is actually really impressive and this guy understand Chinese quite well compared to those reporters who often demonize chinese in their covers

  • @David-sh7lu
    @David-sh7lu 3 года назад +3

    DIGNITY, that's what China has done for Africa, and it's more important than prosperity and development. Dignity is give one job so he can work and make money on his own to support himself and his family, brings bread home, and that's what China has exactly been doing in Africa.

  • @nofoaigaleu3420
    @nofoaigaleu3420 5 лет назад +1

    Wow, I've never heard of any outsider speaking so kindly of Chinese people and God bless his heart.

    • @rap3208
      @rap3208 2 года назад

      Because he has acctually done years and years of research and actually went to China and a lot of african countries talking to the people. These anti-China western media just writes their anti-China reports in the comfort of their homes with other western media as their sources, just echoing what another uninformed westerner has written.

  • @tbeat1993
    @tbeat1993 6 лет назад +4

    Hahahahahhaahha they're mad because they are losing power

  • @edwardtang1977
    @edwardtang1977 9 лет назад +6

    we have to get used to American sour and bitterness. Integrity disappears when a country's economy is bad.
    You can't ask a developing country to have the same thing as a developed country, just as you can't ask people to skip industrialization and jump straight to democracy. You need a middle class. There are steps to build a civilization into an advance one. It takes time. People in Africa do not lack food. It is distribution due to the lack of roads and infrastructure. China is not a babysitter. Some things have to be done by Africans . Dignity can only come when people do it themselves. China only helps out. If there are no cheap goods in the world...what are poor people going to be able to afford?

  • @olukayodesogeke3516
    @olukayodesogeke3516 5 лет назад +3

    Please my African people , let's elect our leaders wisely

  • @jililin2078
    @jililin2078 7 лет назад +3

    Repair the bridges and roads in US first.

  • @mkenyamzalendo4130
    @mkenyamzalendo4130 9 лет назад +3

    After watching this conversation i really appreciate this person in everything he says and i can categorically say that everything is true and the man is aware of what is happenning in Africa i wish all westeners can think like him i mean he is so intelligent,i hope i can meet him one day and say thanks for all the information he is sharing to the world

    • @Trinilicia
      @Trinilicia 7 лет назад +3

      Obed Isoe actually, he has said a lot of negative, jealous stupid statements. You should conquer your run-on sentences and critical thinking before listening to random strangers

    • @linonuel5605
      @linonuel5605 6 лет назад

      Are u that dumb smh

  • @rhou568
    @rhou568 6 лет назад +6

    Bullshit again. Why do we westerners keep lying to cover up our own aggression and arrogance.

  • @jmat82012
    @jmat82012 6 лет назад

    I love this forum, very insightful.

  • @jmat82012
    @jmat82012 6 лет назад +4

    Left to the west Africa would would be a waste land forever. Having lived in the west for 20 years, I am convinced that the west’s hate of Africa is intrinsic. Their is a strange, and yes wicked, satisfaction in the west when Africa is down! Now the west wants to step in and play in Africa because the Chinese are engaging and have already formed very promising relationships. You want to build a profitable trade relationship with China but it is wrong for China to do the same with Africa! You want to be the ‘patron saint of Africa’ happily overseeing her economic despair and human suffering. You have always wished something would keep the Africans from you, yet you seem bothered when China builds a relationship with the Africans! There is some level of mendacity in their!

  • @buzhongyao
    @buzhongyao 7 лет назад +2

    the speaker firstly said that China do interferer these African countries internal political affairs. Then ,said ,the African leaders are happy Chinese do not interferer. Doesn't that sound self-contradictory?

  • @clementchishimba180
    @clementchishimba180 7 лет назад +2

    you are miss informed sir chinese company compete with locals fairly we don not trade in with our resources

  • @PaulDonaldRoy
    @PaulDonaldRoy 9 лет назад +1

    If I told you that most aid to Africa from China was for humanitarian and education development, while aid from US/EU is for infrastructure to better exploit resources, would you be surprised? You should be, because the fact is just the opposite, and if you thought otherwise, your prejudice exposes an irrational hostiliy to Europeans and their diaspora.

  • @zzero9438
    @zzero9438 8 лет назад +2

    very insightful speaker. but i get the impression that the host wasn't listening at all to what the speaker was saying, instead he was trying to draw the speaker into the defamation of sino-african relations through paternalist and alertist questions.

  • @casperthefriendlyghostpeak3015
    @casperthefriendlyghostpeak3015 8 лет назад +4

    african DNA share the same as chinese DNA!

  • @Glory-to-God.
    @Glory-to-God. 9 лет назад +2

    india..Vietnam..brasil...this guy is a joke..he didn't even know China is also building infrastructures for all these countries...and now they should compete with china in Africa....lol

  • @JurijFedorov
    @JurijFedorov 9 лет назад

    This is truly a fantastic lecture. Everything about it is good. Only the technicalities could be better. How hard is it to make a microphone work for 1 hour? At least my microphones work well. Another thing, give the man time to speak his mind, don't rush as much.

  • @ZionCrafter
    @ZionCrafter 9 лет назад +26

    Very interesting discussion. One point of correction at about 1:05:00 - Ethiopia has a national Language that is NOT european as an African nation that resisted Colonisation successfully. Apart from this one gripe, I have to agree with almost everything he has to say on the subject. We are entering a new world with new players. The super ancient African empires (many of which have lost touch with their history through intentional destruction of their heritage during colonisation), will soon have a voice on the world stage. The 'China-Africa' relationship is simply a stepping stone that will last for as long as it is favourable to BOTH sides. Interesting times ahead...

    • @yongj29
      @yongj29 9 лет назад +2

      ZionCrafter The Americans want the good time to end faster and leave the African countries under developed.

    • @morganbabu3105
      @morganbabu3105 2 года назад

      Even other African countries got national languages.i think u meant official language.Kiswahili is national language for EAC en English is their official language most of them.

    • @vishnubeharie4218
      @vishnubeharie4218 Год назад

      😅

  • @albertmarki.8743
    @albertmarki.8743 2 года назад +2

    Is it in the Africans, their livelihood, safety or existentialism, are these so-called intellectuals interested, or they are concerned about the competition of the Chinese with their holds of power on Africa?
    Every day, young men, children and women are getting killed in several thousands in Nigeria by a particular tribe on a mission of ethnic cleansing, and these hypocrites are not talking about that.
    These people disgust me so much.

  • @scooterkiddynamyte1712
    @scooterkiddynamyte1712 8 лет назад +1

    I know this is impossible but africa needs to be like china and have limited leaders as a whole,unlike africa which has like one hundered countries with like a million diffrenent leaders. If china was divided like this it would be weak as well.

  • @LeeSkJohn-sv8wi
    @LeeSkJohn-sv8wi 6 лет назад +3

    Are you sure you can use the term EMPIRE!!!???

  • @wallstreet497
    @wallstreet497 9 лет назад +10

    You talk so much about Africa Now why dont you go and build infrastructures in Africa for free and maintain them? Are you feeling very desperate not to share Africa pie with China ?

    • @qiq6137
      @qiq6137 9 лет назад

      arsene roland i don't think chinese build infrastructures for free~it's just business.

    • @wallstreet497
      @wallstreet497 9 лет назад +1

      Yes but that business is making the most hated people on the planet to start seeing a bright future now .Did we ever talk about africa economic expansion with europeans ? No.And i guess never as history dont lie

    • @wallstreet497
      @wallstreet497 9 лет назад +1

      China is fully aware about past and current Africa -Europe relationship And they also know that Africa has been raped for 500 years by europeans.And that their rising on the world stage has one ennemy in commun with Africa.Like it or not Europe is not a friend of Africa before now and in the future.Will Africa become a colony of china ? Yes only if Africa economy remain passive or inactive.Is china better than Europe for trade? Well look at trade figures and tell me if Africa is sinking.

  • @nandamomma
    @nandamomma 9 лет назад +2

    This may seem as a frivolous comment but I think Africa would do well to be deemed a world park off limits to all greedy corporations and corrupt governments. I loved Mr. French's presentation, it gave me much to think about. Thanks!

    • @DocPetron
      @DocPetron 2 года назад

      It's not frivolous, it's condescending. Africa is a huge continent composed of many nations. Why don't you have your "World Park" in Europe. Continental US? "World park" implies that it belongs to the world. African land belongs to Africans. The countries of Africa should have national parks the belongs to and is runned by said nations. And they do already.

  • @amos325
    @amos325 9 лет назад

    very interesting, thx

  • @briggsdidnotstrapem7699
    @briggsdidnotstrapem7699 2 года назад +1

    Days of America is numbered.

  • @JulietaLicumbi
    @JulietaLicumbi 7 лет назад +1

    We are on the way !!!
    We can !!

  • @icon200
    @icon200 9 лет назад +7

    it is important to trade with the Chinese on equal terms
    We should learn from our "European experience "
    And not get fooled again

  • @theodoreteo1408
    @theodoreteo1408 2 года назад +3

    We must separate hardware and software when we talk about China’s investments in African countries. Just imagine you get an American company to build a hospital. Do you expect the American company to train your doctors and nurses as they construct the hospital? Unless you’re talking about setting a factory to produce American cars. Here you can expect technology transfer and training of local workers but not in infrastructure projects where costs and time for completion are part of the contract. The solution is to get China to help set up technical schools to train local skilled workers for maintenance and service. This could be part of the infrastructural project but the use of local labor component would depend on whether these workers are available or not. Often the smooth running of an infrastructure project depends on how the workers work together not dissimilar to what you see in a hospital operation theater.

    • @rap3208
      @rap3208 2 года назад

      Yeah, the africans should have insisted on technology transfer and training of management and maintenance be put in the contract. If there was no technology transfer or training done, that was the fault of the african country. And that is what is happening right now actually. The hydroelectric dams, rails, etc. have people go to China for education and training in preparation for the infrastructures being built.

  • @sonumbaeng
    @sonumbaeng 8 лет назад +2

    As US continues on it's decline , Africa will be the biggest Growth Opportunity for global investors . India and China are reaching middle income status in the next few years. Africa will witness more growth than China and India put together for atleast next 30 years...

  • @stevenchen2435
    @stevenchen2435 7 лет назад +1

    The title of this piece is "How Chinese Migrants Are Building a New Empire in Africa". Yet I haven't seen a single Chinese or African in this video...

    • @kanggeorge4781
      @kanggeorge4781 7 лет назад

      True, but the guy on the left looks like he could be of the African diaspora (mixed obiviously). Either way you dont have to be either of the two to make accurate observations.

  • @Sophie-iv4ci
    @Sophie-iv4ci 3 года назад +1

    Do not worried sir.
    Just looked at what had happened to the Chinese in Indonesia and Vietnam.

  • @brianchangsingapore840
    @brianchangsingapore840 9 лет назад +7

    Let me add that my parents are Chinese and due to lack of opportunities in China and in fact serious problems (like the Irish) my parents left China in a cargo boat and ended in South Africa like many others in 1933. During the past 100 years millions of Chinese migrated to Asia for same reasons. For clarity of knowledge it is not an organized migration of Chinese to other Countries but an opportunity that Chinese are taking the challenge and therefore seem hap hazard. This is all over the world and not only in Africa. Probable you will find some Chinese in your town. They hopefully will give you no trouble which is the normal behavior of overseas Chinese. They/we don't have a habit to change the local people. Look at the number of overseas Chinese in Asia

    • @Trinilicia
      @Trinilicia 7 лет назад

      Joezhifu peaceful migration is always appreciated!

  • @madmanjshum
    @madmanjshum 9 лет назад +6

    Ex-Colonialist talking.

  • @alcidesvaldemiro9752
    @alcidesvaldemiro9752 5 лет назад +2

    welcome china

  • @los4520
    @los4520 2 года назад +2

    In my opinion a lot positive analysis is missing in this discussion regarding China relations with Africa. I hope is in the book. One thing to notice as well is that a lot of African students are in Chinese universities and are coming back in forming business partnernships with Chinese across the continent. Unlike those studied in west.
    Moreover, there is new race accross Africa, the intermarriage between Chinese and Africans is all over Africa - we are now have Afro-Chinese.

  • @flyerzy
    @flyerzy 5 лет назад +1

    Objectively, there are some unpopular or rude people in any place or country, but this is very few people. Most people are not like this. The cultural habits of each country are different. After all, China is also a developing country, the rule of law. Social morality is still improving.

  • @fooksengloke3625
    @fooksengloke3625 8 лет назад +1

    Training of engineers is another project, not necessary part of an infrastructure construction project. Otherwise it will take forever to complete especially if you have to train the engineers to design and construct. Infrastructure lifespan is actually a maintenance issue. Engineers can easily be trained to do this. Almost all aid giving nations will send their own consultants just to conceptualise what needs to be done. When the project is decided, a multi-national bank or a private investor may come in with the loan. That is when international tenderers come in but with the consultants from aid giving countries being the ones helping to pick the winners, obviously tenderers from these countries get the better chance of winning these tenders.

  • @florencemasule8529
    @florencemasule8529 5 лет назад +1

    In Africa! God help our neighbour to appreciate what the really need. They should build the empire in China to boost the economy of Chinese people.

  • @edharv6611
    @edharv6611 6 лет назад +4

    Surprisingly, there was no mention of the vast natural resources on the Continent of Africa which very likely influenced the decision of the Chinese as well. Hats off the Chinese for engaging Africa and realizing the great potential that exists not just for the people of China and Africa but the World in general.

    • @8584easy
      @8584easy 2 года назад

      No one cares about the ones you hate except when you're interest is locked and loaded

  • @nancy83007
    @nancy83007 7 лет назад +1

    Africa is forgotten by there colonies... Chiness took over in a nice ways not using force ...African never experienced slavery with the Chinese that alone is a good start

  • @bertwesler1181
    @bertwesler1181 8 лет назад +1

    It is not just the Western nations opinion of Africa. It is the Arabs view, The Americas view, the other Asians view, The Chinese view, when are you going to just acknowledge that it is the truth?

  • @prossynannyanzi7072
    @prossynannyanzi7072 6 лет назад +1

    In Africa very faw ppl buy Amerikkka cars they buy Japanese.

  • @karthur3421
    @karthur3421 Год назад

    I think the reason why the US and Europe aren't joining in is, they're still stuck in the colonial mindset of plunder, we can see certain policies and laws enacted in Europe being used on a country like Ghana pushing them around, while China and various other countries while still pushing for more profits and benefits, are at least willing to negotiate with african nations on a more equal term.

  • @Kingstevedaboss
    @Kingstevedaboss 7 лет назад +2

    Just got to be smarter when it comes to business with China. People only take what you let them get away with.

  • @chongjinlim8845
    @chongjinlim8845 2 года назад

    Very interesting discussion, especially on providing training and working to local people, similar question also should why we bought high technology product like aerospace, high speed train or normal trans from develop countries, why we not given the opportunity learn , or makegiven opportunity to produce those items if we bought those things. It is unfair to says why the highway maker must teach or provide job for us if they selling highway. Of course we learn and everything by ourself. It itmay competitive or competent to make things that not between our realm for the moment, perhaps we believe we need certain infrastructutr for our nation by passing those learning curve, like we need iphonebefore we learn how to make iPhone, this will giveopportunities to use the tools for other advanced usage of using the tools. A smart leader should etermine what we needed to learn and produced by the country.

  • @marvelv212
    @marvelv212 5 лет назад +5

    China gave water in remote villages in africa, built railroads, clean energy, gave jobs, trained Africans to be professionals.

  • @tawandamushariwa1742
    @tawandamushariwa1742 5 лет назад +1

    We need to be careful that they develop Africa for her self and not siphon us dry. We need to be feeding China and the African making money we should in the same vein not be exporting to her without adding value to our resources through employment creation.

  • @koksinternational8064
    @koksinternational8064 2 года назад +1

    Napoleon Bonaparte; Let china sleep and dream but when it wakes up it will shake the world

  • @Kalydosos
    @Kalydosos 6 лет назад +1

    I really don't like that term *Empire* Empires are built on violence and France and England were very violent destroying multi story buildings, trading roads they even enslaved Africans on the continent as well as the Carribean and North America.

  • @robertcalamusso4218
    @robertcalamusso4218 Год назад

    I can’t wait to get my Mao suit. One in grey. One in black

  • @QueenNile
    @QueenNile 6 лет назад +2

    The devils are talking and mad as well.

  • @flyerzy
    @flyerzy 5 лет назад +1

    The consequence of the dollar hegemony is a huge trade deficit, because the United States needs to flood the world with a large amount of dollars, and other countries must use inexpensive commodities in exchange for dollars. Therefore, the U.S. manufacturing industry must be unable to compete and transfer to other countries. These are the deformed economic models caused by the greedy capital of the United States! In order to transfer contradictions, American politicians say that they have been caused by other countries, thus blocking trade in other countries! If the American people are still not aware of this issue clearly, then the United States will not really be great again!
    In fact, there is no absolute democracy in this world. This is just a game made by the capital group that fled from Europe to the United States in World War II. Democracy requires funds to run for elections, and it is about the capital group behind the official US government. And unlike China, they will not allow any capital to control this country, which is why Western capital wants to get the Asian market and fear the socialist countries!
    The Belt and Road Initiative is actually bypassing the maritime trade channel controlled by the United States, and Americans are certainly afraid! Just like the oil China renminbi, China's global industrial division of labor competitiveness is gradually approaching the United States! Therefore, the United States began to comprehensively curb China’s development. US hegemony does not allow any country to compete with the United States! Look at the war launched by the United States. You will understand the reasons for all this! Although the United States is a highly democratized country, behind the democratic government are controlled by large interest groups, such as arms and oil finance. This will inevitably drive the United States to use war and other means to maintain its dominance. This is why U.S. spending has not been used to build the United States. After all, China has experienced a history of 5,000 years of civilization. Looking back at the history of China, the dynasty that used force to dominate was often dying, and the history of the world was also reviewed. Therefore, China will not take the old road of the United States. China's One Belt and One Road is to link the Eurasian African continent with railways, so that it can form the world's largest trade market. The advantage is that it can be separated from the US sea route control. Once the largest world trade market is formed, the United States will be marginalized. The United States will no longer be the central force of the world, and the center of the world will return to Europe, Asia and Africa! This is why the United States is so afraid of the Belt and Road. And China has begun to compete with the United States in high-end manufacturing, so the United States has to do everything to kill China! Including political diplomacy, financial warfare, media public opinion warfare, biological weapons warfare, arms competition, and finally military warfare.
    In fact, let us review the history of the world and have a very clear answer. China is a country with a history of civilization of 4000-5000 years. If a country can exist for such a long time, then it must know how to rule the land. Since the World War II and the industrial revolution, the West has begun to become the center of the world, but it has only been two hundred years. Because the short sight of political gaze cannot rule the country for a long time, look at the Mongolian Empire. Historically, Many outside nations have invaded Chinese territory, but they will not rule for more than one hundred years. Because they only use force and no wisdom. Maybe technological force can be a leader in the world for a while, but it won't last long. The reason behind this is the political system!
    In the future, the United States will be difficult to compete with China at many levels, such as market size and demand and consumption levels, industry chain, talent pool, political system and reform capabilities.

  • @mekonenmenghistuab4042
    @mekonenmenghistuab4042 2 года назад

    Chinese business opens for everyone no discrimination no too much steep

  • @edjo10
    @edjo10 5 лет назад +1

    dear host
    There are 54 countries in Africa . We suppose 10000 chinese workers work in each country in africa . it means 540000 Worker countries work in africa
    China has 200 million unemployments . do you think chinese want solve their unimployments?
    BRI ist more important than unimployment . They want to achive BRI aims

  • @halox80
    @halox80 9 лет назад +1

    Lol. I love how this man laughs about the language teacher telling him that China are the greatest country in the world. The English, the Americans say the exact same thing.

    • @rap3208
      @rap3208 2 года назад

      He's just laughing at the irony, americans have been taught since birth that they are the best country in the world, the home of the brave, the land of the free, etc., but americans don't know that the chinese are even worse, they are taught that they are the best people with a long culture and civilization and could outwork anybody, out-endure anybody, etc.

  • @jesuisbecoming6636
    @jesuisbecoming6636 8 лет назад +2

    Yo ! can we speak about the western Sabotaged of The independent Hawaiian Kingdom and eventually Christianised Hawaii into a serfdom Ruled by Pineapple american Corporations ? 👄

  • @LiterallySomething
    @LiterallySomething 6 лет назад +1

    Whatever Mr. Howard French talked in his enti- China sentiments, and regarding the preferred democracy and ngo at play, He should take notes to many of those critics that are not with his view.
    Look, I don't mean to offend the US or him but it's high time that the US should shuffle the cards for new play of a more sound system for new world politics of the 21st century.

  • @gorillacannible3198
    @gorillacannible3198 6 лет назад +1

    It's a global market and China is out competing the West for Africa's business. Africa can not be like the Western world it has to be distinctly its own sovereignty respectfully, China has a better understanding of this then the West plus they seem to be less xenophobic and preditory than traditional Western investment ideologies.

    • @rap3208
      @rap3208 2 года назад

      To the west, africa is a dangerous and risky place for investment and just not worth the small profit they get. The only thing the western world is interested in africa is to exploit the natural resources such as oil, gold, diamonds, copper and other heavy metal deposits, the extractive industry. They just want to get them out of the ground, buy it dirt cheap and bring it to their native country where they can add value to it and make the end product sell for multiple times the extractive cost.
      The chinese is there in africa for the long haul. They want africa to succeed and progress because that means a bigger trade and investment for China. In the meantime, their chinese companies are also hauling ass in building thousands of big and small african infrastructures costing trillions of dollars.

  • @8584easy
    @8584easy 2 года назад

    The Chinese did what a fool would not due. Africa must realize that it must successfully protect it's continent and Development on healthcare to prevent plague or virus

  • @stephenyang2844
    @stephenyang2844 2 года назад

    China should hire Mr. French as its ambassador at large to show the world its strategic plan for Africa.