Why I Use Neutral Density Graduated Filters for Landscape Photography

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  • Опубликовано: 13 июл 2020
  • In this video I answer the question why do I use neutral density graduated filters for landscape photography.
    For me ND grads are amongst the most important filters for landscape photography. I use them to balance the exposure when I have a dark foreground and a bright sky.
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Комментарии • 161

  • @nickliveseyphotographingth5050
    @nickliveseyphotographingth5050 4 года назад +7

    I am happy to report that after smashing my custom made 5 stop grad from KASE I am back on the LEE filters and stacking them like a boss ;)

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад

      Hi Nick - so how do you feel about being immortalised as a photographic technique? Or have I overstepped the mark? :) Andrew told me that they had made a 5 stop especially for you. How on earth have you managed to break it already?

    • @nickliveseyphotographingth5050
      @nickliveseyphotographingth5050 4 года назад +1

      @@ChrisSalePhoto I've had the 5 stop for about two years and smashed it while making one of my 'Lockdown in Snowdonia' films! A gust of wind etc!!! Apart from that, I must say that I was thrilled to hear my name on your latest vlog, absolutely thrilled :)

  • @markthomas6045
    @markthomas6045 4 года назад +9

    11:37, Don't EVER think you're boring us! We come here to watch and I for one would watch anything you want to do. The scenery is perfect, the instruction is spot on and believe it or not Chris, these videos are a god-send! I'm not some whacko lunatic, but I love your posts. To come home after a long day at work and see you walking around that perfect countryside is absolutely splendid! I'm glad you had a great outing, it was a privilege to come along on your adventure!

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад

      Thanks Michelle, that is a lovely thing to say. I know exactly how you feel. That is how I felt about Thomas Heaton's videos before I started my own channel.

  • @neilhutchins75
    @neilhutchins75 4 года назад +1

    Great video matched by some very nice photos, it was a joy to watch you enjoying your 'job'.

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад

      Thanks Neil - it was an absolute joy! I don't get many mornings like this so it was nice to be in the right place at the right time for a change.

  • @robertnelson3179
    @robertnelson3179 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for your explanation on use of grad filters

  • @neklamp2431
    @neklamp2431 4 года назад

    Beautiful photos, amazing light!

  • @andyblessett1282
    @andyblessett1282 3 года назад

    Those images were superb, I'm so jealous.

  • @kathrynhall9920
    @kathrynhall9920 4 года назад +1

    Beautiful photos Chris.

  • @binzauk
    @binzauk 4 года назад +1

    Hi Chris. A couple of videos ago you said about being in the right place at the right time and your shots from Low Rigg and of Tewet Tarn must be the best that you've taken (or at least shared on your channel) from that location. Like you said, the side lighting was amazing. I think you can now dispel Tewet Tarn as your 'bogey location'. As well as enjoying using ND Grads in the field rather than applying them in software, I think that their use helps me appreciate the effect that light can have on my composition. For example; one day I may need filters, another day at the same location and shooting the same composition I may not. It also helps me understand my camera a bit more and, as you mentioned, is another tool which I can use to compensate for any 'technical deficiencies' that my camera may have to get the shot I want.

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад

      Thanks Stephen - I am back at Tewet Tarn this evening for my first 1-2-1 since lockdown. Really looking forward to it. :)

  • @barrynoon1812
    @barrynoon1812 4 года назад +2

    You lucky so and so. What a cracking vlog and cracking light👍😊😊. Really enjoyed this. Happy days!!

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад

      I did get lucky didn't I Barry - made a nice change :)

  • @1971wizzard
    @1971wizzard 4 года назад +1

    Again a great video presentation, love your relaxed style.....keep up the great work....!!

  • @arthurrmcphee4885
    @arthurrmcphee4885 4 года назад

    Beautiful photography!

  • @keithratcliffe5576
    @keithratcliffe5576 4 года назад +1

    That view of Blencathra from the South is so beautiful and the side lighting really sets it off - it is like a hand with the five ridges coming down from the top. Glad you had a good day out and got some excellent pictures - your enjoyment comes through in the video.

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад

      I have always though that too Keith! They look like fingers.

  • @RodLittle
    @RodLittle 4 года назад +1

    As you say fantastic light, and some great images

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад

      Makes a difference when it all comes together doesn't it Rod.

  • @NigelsVidPix
    @NigelsVidPix 4 года назад +1

    Fantastic images and what a wonderful morning! Really enjoying your work Chris, keep it up!

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад

      Thanks very much Nigel, that is so kind of you.

  • @rosssayer6524
    @rosssayer6524 4 года назад +1

    Great to see you enjoy that morning, conditions were great, loved the side lighting images. Also use filters and really enjoy them. Your reflection images were outstanding. Well done Chris.

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад

      Thanks Ross - I just find using filters such an enjoyable experience.

  • @johnsparkes8963
    @johnsparkes8963 4 года назад +1

    Beautiful lit images Chris in another great location. Thank you for sharing. Take care.

  • @neild108
    @neild108 4 года назад

    Chris, I much appreciate the thorough discussion of the ins and outs, pros and cons, of ND grads. I also appreciate hearing about Zero filters and also your discussion of them in the video and in the comments below. I'm a bit financially challenged at the moment and so I plan to get a Kase K9 holder/CPL, supplemented by a few Zero ND's and ND grads. I'll move to all Kase filters when the budget allows.
    BTW, nice photos--I always enjoy your clear and insightful points on landscape photography. Cheers!

  • @darrenwhiteley1369
    @darrenwhiteley1369 4 года назад +2

    Thoroughly enjoyed this shoot Chris and your results. For me the first two photos in this are some of your strongest works of this period. Interestingly, had I seen the photos without the context of the video I would have thought these were sunset shots rather than sunrise ones - I guess that is probably down to your bespoke preset adding a warmth. I've stuck with my filters even after the switch to the Z6 and its better dynamic range. Part of it is because I like the fact using filters slows me down and makes me consider what it is I need to do to best capture the scene and partly it is because I find the filters give me an immediate feedback as to whether the sky needs to dominate the scene or be minimised.

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад +1

      That is a very good point Darren - anything that slows us down and makes us put more thought into our images while on location is a good thing if you ask me.

  • @iandi8898
    @iandi8898 4 года назад +1

    Really loving the side light shots. Well done Chris👍

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад +1

      Thanks very much, I was very happy with the images in this video.

  • @joernsbilderwelt
    @joernsbilderwelt 4 года назад +7

    Totally agree, Chris : i also use grads, because it is fun for me! It is slowing me down. I prefer investing time on location instead of sitting in front of the Computer more than i need. If others prefer the method in lightroom, captureOne or whatever, it is ok. It is a very individual decision, there is no wrong or right.

    • @mrsusan893
      @mrsusan893 4 года назад +1

      It takes seconds to blend images in Photoshop using the gradient tool and it is a non destructive work flow unlike using them in the field that can cause issues with the single raw file. If you have a perfectly flat horizon then yes it is generally OK to use a gradient filter in the field and of course you can easily bracket and blend the images in Photoshop that takes literally seconds. But if you have a dark object poking into the bright sky such as a tree or a mountain then using a grad filter will not only darken the bright sky, it will also darken the already dark tree or mountain and you will basically have to try and brighten up those darkened areas. This can be quite fiddly, time consuming and often times will leave you with haloing and very noisy shadow areas. So not only are grad filters very expensive but they can actually cause you to spend more time fixing your image in post compared to bracketing and blending 2 files together.

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад +1

      I totally agree Jorn - it is a personal thing. You should do whatever works for you. Personally I can think of many cases when exposure blending doesn't work for me personally.

  • @carlreid4161
    @carlreid4161 4 года назад

    What a morning Chris that light was incredible! The images you composed were stunning the foreground rocks with their leading lines were great as were the reflections towards the end. If I had to pick a favourite then it would have to be the one at 8:46 the leading lines of the trees and their shadows in the fields and the drystone walls also leading up to Skiddaw, and a glimpse of Bassenthwaite Lake love it!

  • @ellyelzinga01
    @ellyelzinga01 4 года назад +1

    Another great video, love the images you took! There might have been cloud covering the sunrise, but you still got amazing conditions!

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад +1

      I know Elly, it was a gorgeous morning. Very rare in my experience so important to enjoy it when it happens.

  • @gordonmelrose9700
    @gordonmelrose9700 4 года назад +1

    Beautiful sidelight on the foreground rocks Chris. I must say that although I carry filters with me I usually end up bracketing, but each to their own - no right or wrong way. All the best.

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад +1

      I think that is the point Gordon, it's about figuring out what works best for you. Blending bracketed exposures lets me down too often for it to be anything other than a back up plan but other people might have more luck with it.

  • @whafrog
    @whafrog 4 года назад +3

    Great images!
    I've stopped using ND grads, mostly because it didn't stop me from having to mess around in post trying to correct the obvious effect. In the end, no time was saved, and having to fiddle around in the field is the larger chore.

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад

      I never have to correct my grads - if you are careful about positioning them and use a soft enough graduation you shouldn't have any problems.

  • @johnflanagan44
    @johnflanagan44 4 года назад

    I have just been on zero filters website omg there prices are fantastic look’s like going to change my filter kit thank you Mr S 👍👍👍

  • @paulfarrell6781
    @paulfarrell6781 4 года назад +1

    A GOOD day Chris. Great vlog and great images - your new approach is the right way for you I think. I'm getting the full nd's - will graduate (😜) to grad nds when I feel I have reached that level - but the info is now stored and will be used. Looking forward to the next vlog - keep safe mate. 🙂👍

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад +1

      When you do start with grads I find that my 3 stop soft edge grad gets the most use. I hope that is helpful.

    • @paulfarrell6781
      @paulfarrell6781 4 года назад

      @@ChrisSalePhoto thanks Chris - appreciate that - I will let you know as I progress. Enjoy your next "hike' - looking forward to it🙂👍

  • @nigelnewton4365
    @nigelnewton4365 4 года назад +1

    I have to agree, Chris. There are several reasons, as you clearly explain here, for using grads, and my favourite reason is your last one - they're just nice to use! And yes, they slow me down on location, and that is a good thing! I'd rather spend more time enjoying the beauty outdoors than sat in front of a screen! Another smashing video, Chris. Thank you!

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад +1

      I love that feeling Nigel when I position a grad and watch all of the tones bunch together on my histogram. It is difficult to explain but there is something very reassuring about it.

    • @nigelnewton4365
      @nigelnewton4365 4 года назад

      @@ChrisSalePhoto Yes, it's very satisfying!

  • @travelswith...
    @travelswith... 4 года назад +1

    Afternoon Chris. Really liked the vlog. I have to say you look liked "the cat that got the cream". I have been watching your vlogs for some time now & I don't recall you having such a obvious smile & look of thorough enjoyment on your face throughout the vlog... And why not, super scenery, super views, super conditions & super photos... Really enjoyed your enjoyment of the landscape. It definitely came across on vlog... Thanks for sharing & eduction in using Grad ND's. All The Best David

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад +1

      Hey David - it certainly was a wonderful morning. It is rare for me to get conditions like that so it is hard to hide my delight when I am in the right place at the right time for a change! :)

  • @dx3200
    @dx3200 4 года назад

    Great images, Chris. Just stunning. Greetings from Canada.

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад

      Thanks very much, very kind of you to say.

  • @jer3006
    @jer3006 4 года назад

    Ohh, you came so close to presenting what I hoped to see here. My first time to find and see your work and it's very impressive. I love how you handled the light and scenes, and I learned a lot. I'm just starting with ND Grads and have the Haida M10 basic kit with Drop-in Polarizer. Now to get the grad filters for an 18-300 mm Nikkor Lens in sun-drenched Texas. So what I hoped to see was soft or hard filters, how did you position them up/down in the holder for those scenes, especially how did you position them when you stacked 2 of them (were they both identically placed on the horizon below the mountains, at the summit lines, or how)? If you have covered these basics in another video, I would appreciate a link. This one is an outstanding video and I appreciate your sharing it.

  • @mujahidurrehman
    @mujahidurrehman 4 года назад

    I moved to NiSi from LEE because those are glass IRND filters. I am not shy to do a Livesey.... I love using them on location rather than exposure blending in post. Beautiful photos mate!

  • @JohnHPettigrewFujishooter67
    @JohnHPettigrewFujishooter67 4 года назад +1

    Loved that first image Chris, perfect timing with the filters, my next video(tomorrow) I mention how filters scare me, so many opinions and various systems, but I am gonna check out Zero for sure, thanks for sahring.

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад +1

      Hi John - if you are already using the Lee system like me then I think Zero grads are potentially a good alternative. However, if I was investing in a new system I would look very closely at Kase.

    • @JohnHPettigrewFujishooter67
      @JohnHPettigrewFujishooter67 4 года назад

      @@ChrisSalePhoto Thanks Chris, much appreciated.

  • @alanminshall1824
    @alanminshall1824 4 года назад +1

    Cracking shots Chris, and so many. As you say get it right on camera less time at the computer. That makes more time playing out with your camera. Win, Win.

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад +1

      That's the way I see it Alan. Time is money so getting it right in camera is important to me.

  • @MiguelACoronaDM
    @MiguelACoronaDM 4 года назад +1

    I carry my grads but use them sparingly. I've been blending much more lately. I use my NDs much more. Those last three images - fantastic!

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад

      Really Miguel - what do you use? LR HDR or PS luminosity masking?

  • @nigelbramley4188
    @nigelbramley4188 4 года назад +1

    Absolutely agree with your view on grads Chris. Although I've been software savvy for many a year, I'd rather spend time on one camera taken image than blending a few of the same . It does work sometimes as you say but as an old film user I'd rather spend time outside with the camera instead of looking at a computer screen. Nice work.

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад +1

      The use of grads seems to split opinion Nigel - it's all about figuring out what works for you I suppose. I always feel that I want to get as much right in camera as possible. It just feels more 'honest' to me.

  • @malcolmross3782
    @malcolmross3782 4 года назад +1

    Hello Chris, awesome video and so many spectacular shots. Never bored and always come away having learnt something. More on the use of filters if at all possible? Thanks for sharing and continue to stay safe 😷

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад

      There will be more on filters at some point Malcolm - Kase have sent me a set to try out. Could my Lee Filters days be numbered? :)

    • @malcolmross3782
      @malcolmross3782 4 года назад

      Hello Chris, thanks for that reply. I await your conclusion on the filter trial. Stay safe 😷

  • @andrewcrisp9700
    @andrewcrisp9700 4 года назад +2

    Very good images there Chris. I also prefer to try and get it right in the camera, as I am a techno phobe when it comes to post editing.

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад

      I really enjoy editing photos Andrew but these days time is money so it helps me to get as much right in camera as possible.

  • @theresarice7289
    @theresarice7289 4 года назад +1

    The first reflection image was my favorite

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад

      Thanks Theresa - for me the images from Tewet Tarn are a bit eclipsed by those from Low Rigg.

  • @daveshannon3934
    @daveshannon3934 4 года назад +1

    Don’t think you could ever bore us! Blencathra also has to be one of my favourite mountains.

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад +1

      Oh I don't know Dave - shall I give it a try? :)

  • @cillyede
    @cillyede 4 года назад +1

    Sometimes I use grads sometimes not. No religion for me. Greaat shots Chris.🇩🇪

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад

      That is probably a good approach - whatever fits the situation.

  • @hughwolfe1176
    @hughwolfe1176 4 года назад +1

    Chris this was very interesting. In ten years I’ve never touched a filter, perhaps it’s time to have a look and see what I’m missing. A lot of photographers use them for water shots, however here in Arizona we don’t have to much of that around.

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад

      Hi Hugh - I think the only absolutely essential filter for landscape photography is the polariser, you just can't reproduce the effect with software. I would start there if I was you.

  • @mikeontherock
    @mikeontherock 4 года назад +1

    Great stuff..... I like the idea of seeing you test out gear. Especially if included new uncharted approaches which some innovative companies are coming up with.

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад +1

      You should see the crap I get asked to try Michael. "Would you like to spend 8 hours filming and editing a video in exchange for a $50 tripod?" - eh, I'll pass thanks!

    • @mikeontherock
      @mikeontherock 4 года назад

      @@ChrisSalePhoto haha no I definitely don't recommend that. I would have imagined something more on the lines of gear which you choose to try and seek yourself. You have a very comprehensive way of explaining things and discussing the gear which makes your life easier would be interesting to listen to. Without getting in to the merits of how you choose to do that. Sorry if I struck a cord... didn't mean to.

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад +1

      @@mikeontherock - no chords struck Michael, it's all good. :)

  • @johanhefer3512
    @johanhefer3512 4 года назад +1

    Great shots again. I have a stupid habit of shooting into the sun - just because I like it- and glad to see its not just an amateur like me that stacks more than one ND grad. In my case it is more to rescue my image than anything else! I have also bracketed with ND filters and somehow it works. Don't know if it is an acceptable technique but I like to experiment and then be surprised with results :-)

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад

      Hi Johan - on the occasions that I have to bracket I will often have a grad on as well. It reduces the number of stops I have to bracket by.

  • @PMCN53
    @PMCN53 4 года назад +1

    I loved the last group of images over the tarn, so much to work with. Re filters... I use Lee filters and I have the philosophy that using filters and using LR/PS and what ever I can to give me the final image outcome I'm looking for. The Lee filter color cast issue is very simple to correct by shooting only RAW and adjusting the white balance in LR. I enjoy the whole process of capturing the image to the editing in LR/PS. PS: I also have a K&F Concept reverse grad-GLASS, it is good and so much cheeper that the LEE.
    You had such beautiful conditions, I would have stayed there all day. Cheers Chris.

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад +1

      I do feel that for the price you shouldn't have to correct the colour cast on Lee filters. Particularly if there are cheaper, more colour neutral options on the market.

    • @PMCN53
      @PMCN53 4 года назад

      @@ChrisSalePhoto I must qualify my comment on the Lee filters, only 1/7 filters that has the "Colour Cast" is the 10 stop filter. I do agree about the cost though, but I purchased the Lee filters when they were the only ones available.

  • @barrieanthony952
    @barrieanthony952 4 года назад +2

    Nice. I use grads, but less and less. More often blending and refining that with a luminosity mask. I find I get a better result that way

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад +1

      I think these hyper-real images that you see more and more have put me off of using luminosity masking. They are very fashionable at the moment but I think fashions change.

    • @barrieanthony952
      @barrieanthony952 4 года назад

      @@ChrisSalePhoto I agree. I just use the luminosity masks so I don't effect things like a mountain top while editing the sky. Although, I change image to image depending on my mood. Just went to long Meg and I quite like being a bit more creative with editing at places like that, but because it's a bit of a mystical place, if you get my drift

  • @paulhinchliffe7601
    @paulhinchliffe7601 4 года назад +1

    Great video this week and what fantastic conditions you had . I think you may need a week off after bagging all those images 😉 looking forward to the next video . I’m going to check out those filters 👍

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад +1

      A week off Paul? I wish! Things are starting to pick up now. Wahoo!

    • @paulhinchliffe7601
      @paulhinchliffe7601 4 года назад +1

      @@ChrisSalePhoto Glad things are picking up keep up the good work

  • @tonyhales-BigT
    @tonyhales-BigT 4 года назад +1

    There's always gonna be the Glads vs blending debate. I have them and use them often, but then Norfolk is a lot less hilly than the Lakes. Like you Chris I enjoy the process of just using them. Some great images again, 6:23 being my personal favourite 👌
    Best wishes Tony bucket hands

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад +1

      Hey Tony - I haven't had many problems using grads in the mountains, I think the trick is making sure that you have a soft enough graduation and not being afraid to pull the grad down a little further than you might otherwise think.

  • @RiccardoPareschi
    @RiccardoPareschi 4 года назад +1

    Yes NDG are useful filters in combination with the polarizer and I've a second NDG filter in my wish list (a 3 or 4 stops). Often I prefer two shot bracketing (2 stops interval) then stacking with Affinity Photo, but more work at home. I love Haida filter system but this Zero Filters are interesting ... The shot at 8:48 is a piece of art ! Thank Chris, you give me the desire to go out and take more pictures and to improve myself as a photographer. Your simplicity and passion in telling is a precious gift.

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад +1

      Thanks Riccardo - bracketing a viable option for a lot of people but I often shoot in conditions when it's not appropriate. For example when there is movement in the landscape (i.e. it's windy) or if I am doing long exposures. I don't want to have to bracket a 4 minute exposure.

    • @RiccardoPareschi
      @RiccardoPareschi 4 года назад

      @@ChrisSalePhoto You’re right. I normally use bracketing when I’m shooting free-hand. Here the sky is always very bright. Have a nice day !

  • @andychattaway5620
    @andychattaway5620 4 года назад +1

    Hi Chris, Great video. The scenery and the light are stunning. Beautiful photos too. I too love using nd grads in the field, it just feels to me like a very organic way of working. But increasingly software methods, specifically Luminosity masking are showing the downsides of using nd's and producing far superior results.

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад +1

      I think what puts me off of luminosity masking are the hyper-real images that are all the rage at the moment. They just don't look real to me.

    • @andychattaway5620
      @andychattaway5620 4 года назад

      @@ChrisSalePhoto Well those hyper-real images aren't (real) are they? They're similar too, all though not as bad as the first HDR images produced by many which were truly gruesome. Shadows are important and we don't need to see every detail in a picture. Luminosity masking should be used primarily to balance exposure and accentuate light. But we don't want boring so as Gavin Hardcastle would say Juice it up a bit. 👍

  • @deltafit
    @deltafit 4 года назад +1

    'Explosures' 😂😂😂 I'm defo gonna start using that one Chris!

  • @hoodoo_taco
    @hoodoo_taco 4 года назад +2

    Interesting idea on stacking. Can you do some more on this? I like the ideas you did here. Different views are what makes your photos stand out!

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад

      I will try - to be honest I try not to shoot towards the sun very often if I can help it. Generally I try to keep it to the side negating the need to stack.

    • @hoodoo_taco
      @hoodoo_taco 4 года назад

      @@ChrisSalePhoto I tried today on a couple of targets, but not quite what I wanted. But I will not give up, yet!

  • @StephenBrian
    @StephenBrian 4 года назад +2

    Beautiful images again if I am thinking of buying something and I haven’t heard of the company before I usually look for reviews and it is nice when someone you follow on You Tube has tried the product.

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад +1

      Hey Stephen - I am still testing these filters but my first impressions are very good. I need to do a direct comparison against my Lee filters so see if they really are more colour neutral.

    • @StephenBrian
      @StephenBrian 4 года назад

      Chris Sale look forward to seeing what your final thoughts are.

  • @derekdammann6417
    @derekdammann6417 4 года назад +1

    Really like the shot at 6:21. Quintessential Lake District terrain.

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад

      Thanks Derek - oddly that was probably my least favourite of the shots in the video. The colours are a bit odd. But I like the composition. One to return to at some point in the future.

  • @philroyal8325
    @philroyal8325 4 года назад

    Blimey, 8+ shots... you must have been exhausted! Another entertaining and informative video Chris, thank you. Did you say if the new filters were resin, didn't spot it? Personally having used grads years ago I find them a faff. Polariser yes, NDs yes on occasion. When we met I said how I disliked the use of grads as you often see dark felltops etc as you dont have the control to match the contours of the real world. Horizontal horizons maybe, but I simply prefer bracketing and editing these days. If someone offered me a free set I might have more interest in trying it again though! My fave from your morning was one of the Skiddaw reflections in Tewet Tarn. Like you I find it difficult to get good compositions there but that shot had lovely balance. Just shows you don't always need foreground interest!

  • @arielestulin9706
    @arielestulin9706 4 года назад +1

    Most cameras today have enough dynamic range to easily adjust the exposure difference in post. If you expose your shot properly for highlights and shadows, it's an easy post-process afterwards. Maybe if you're shooting a sunset shot with your foreground completely black to expose for the sun, then yes, maybe in that situation. Even then, I will shoot a bracket exposure and adjust in post. In fact, Lightroom allows you to combine your bracket exposures so that you still have a RAW images and never have to leave Lightroom.

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад

      Bracketed exposures have let me down too often for me to consider them to be anything other than a back up. I have had problems when there is movement in the landscape and when doing long exposures. If I do have to bracket I never leave a location feeling 100% confident that I have the shot.

  • @pauldlewis3138
    @pauldlewis3138 4 года назад +1

    Well Chris I could just feel the stillness of those final images, just wonderful.
    Question .. Do you always use the cp filter and if so why ... and do you rotate it for best effect before or after fitted the grads?

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад +1

      Hi Paul - my CPL is permanently attached to filter holder. I generally use the LCD on the back of my camera to position the polariser before putting the grad in place. I use the polariser to control contrast in the image by reducing glare on rocks, foliage, etc. I tend to back it right off when shooting reflections.

  • @Colinpowellphotography
    @Colinpowellphotography 4 года назад +1

    Great final images Chris. Unfortunately I've ditched my Lee grads (and ND's soon to be listed on ebay🤣). As good as they are I find more often than not they are cutting in below the horizon line before having the desired effect on the sky when shooting a undulating landscape thus darkening areas I don't want to tone down not to mention a pig to keep clean in bad weather. So I've only been using the Lee polarizer which, for me is just a bit too much of a faff setting up and a also too much of a bulk in my camera bag. I favour bracketing and have switched to the Kase system. Less weight less bulk and a lot quicker. At the end of the day it's preference and what you feel works best for you.

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад +1

      I think that's just it isn't it Colin - a lot of photography is figuring out what works for you. We are all different and what works for me won't work for everyone.

  • @julianheritage6436
    @julianheritage6436 4 года назад +2

    Some nice images and gorgeous light from that location Chris. I'm the complete opposite and can't stand ND grads, I find them a flaf and hate the encroachment of the dark graduation on undulating land (unless its a seascape with flat horizon), Modern sensors and luminosity masks really reduce the need for them too.

    • @mrsusan893
      @mrsusan893 4 года назад

      Exactly. Also the more glass he puts in front of his lens the more he is degrading the photo

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад

      A fair point Julian although I don't have too many problems pulling my soft edge grads down over the mountains. I think what puts me off of luminosity masks are the hyper-real images that you see a lot of, they just seem a bit fake to me.

  • @JohnDrummondPhoto
    @JohnDrummondPhoto 4 года назад +1

    Another fine video and a god breakdown of your workflow! You presumably taped this before processing the photos. So, what's your verdict on those filters? Thanks.

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад

      First impressions are good John - they do seem to be pretty neutral with no obvious sign of colour cast. I need to make a direct comparison with my Lee Filters before I can say for sure.

  • @hontihl
    @hontihl 4 года назад +2

    first time i've been first for anything :)

  • @grayburden3524
    @grayburden3524 4 года назад +1

    Once again a great video Chris. Just another option to throw in, bracketed images could be blended using luminosity masks. In my opinion a much better outcome than HDR software. Try Jimmy Mcintyres Raya Pro excellent bit of software. Question for you, If a camera was developed that produced your standard of images just by compose and shoot, no consideration for dynamic range, whether to bracket, which filter to use etc would you buy it? I think that would take away the art, skill element and the fun out of photography wouldn't it?

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад

      Hi Gray - I think if such a camera existed I would seriously consider it. So long as it was a Canon... :)

  • @snowwalker9999
    @snowwalker9999 3 года назад

    Nobody talks about the magnetic Marumi/ H&Y filters. They are so easy to stack up, good quality glass too.

  • @Bussmicke2305
    @Bussmicke2305 4 года назад +1

    Interesting, never heard about zero b4.

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад

      I think that are relatively new to the market Michael. Nice bunch of guys.

  • @AmorLucisPhotography
    @AmorLucisPhotography 4 года назад +5

    Curious that you didn't mention exposure blending using Photoshop as an alternative to ND grads. Do you not use Photoshop? Combined with luminosity masking this gives considerably greater control than is available via Lightroom's HDR and it is a non-destructive workflow. Yes, some more time in front of the computer, but ultimately, in my opinion, enabling the creation of better or at least more finely crafted images plus less weight and less faff in the field. Since I got my magnetic Kase filters my Lee and Nisi filter systems have remained in the cupboard.

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад +1

      I think what has put me off of luminosity masking are the hyper-real shots that you see a lot of these days. That just look a little fake to me.

  • @jeffstephens5266
    @jeffstephens5266 4 года назад

    I’ve never used a grad or ND filter yet but I do suspect that will happen at some point in the future

  • @Twobarpsi
    @Twobarpsi Год назад

    What lens were you using? Great pictures 🤩!!

  • @richardpowellTV
    @richardpowellTV 4 года назад

    Very useful tips on using grads Chris. I have the Kase CP and 6 stop ND and I'm considering getting a soft 3 stop grad because I'd rather do things in camera than In post. Kase aren't cheap and I'm a bit skint at the moment! The Zero grad is much cheaper but they are resin and so can I ask you what your opinion on them is now if you have used them a bit more, any colour cast for example? Oh, and I don't see the thickness of them on their website, are they 2mm? If so, then they will fit my Kase holder! Many thanks...

  • @ShaneRHDR
    @ShaneRHDR 4 года назад +1

    Hi Chris some excellent shots just a quick question when you shown the stills in this video is that how they have come out of the camera with the filters or have you done much post processing? Do you know from playing with my own camera and get some pretty outstanding shots directly from the camera nowadays so I was just wondering if you have done any extra work on the pictures that you put in this. Thanks kind regards Shane

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад +1

      Hi Shane - I shoot RAW so all my images need some form of post processing. Usually fine tuning the exposure, boosting the contrast and sharpening. I do have a video about my standard approach to post processing if you are interested.

    • @ShaneRHDR
      @ShaneRHDR 4 года назад

      @@ChrisSalePhoto thank you yes it would be I got lightroom and photoshop but not a lot of clue how to use them

  • @geoffhoward2171
    @geoffhoward2171 4 года назад +1

    Chris, when you talk of Zero Filters, are you referring to the Ray Masters Filters?

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад

      I don't think so Geoff - Ray Masters wasn't a brand that I was aware of. I don't think there is a relationship between the 2 but I might be wrong.

  • @chilecayenne
    @chilecayenne 4 года назад

    Was that the zero holder along with the filters, or was that your Lee holder using the Zero ND grads? Was the polarizer Zero?
    I"m shooting a bit of film these days too and am currently trying to figure out what system to get into and go with, especially considering LF lenses and MF lenses.
    LOL, with film, you don't really HAVE the digital option (as much) and need the filters to get it right in camera as much as possible, but I'd also play with them in digital camera too.
    Thanks again Chris!!

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад

      Yes, it was the Lee holder and the Lee CPL that I was using. It was only the grads that came from Zero filters. They work well together. If I was buying a whole new system these days I would look at Kase. Hope that helps.

    • @chilecayenne
      @chilecayenne 4 года назад

      @@ChrisSalePhoto OH thank you VERY much!!
      Yes, I"ve been looking into Kase, as well as the Polar Pro offerings. Ugh, so many to choose from, and once you're invested in a system, hard to get out to do something better, the $$$ is so high. Thank you for your time, and keep up the good content!!

  • @treyfoerster8759
    @treyfoerster8759 4 года назад +1

    I use a screw on variable GND that works wonderfully.

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад

      Does it Trey? I will be honest I don't know much about them. Are you able to adjust the position the graduation or is it just the strength?

    • @treyfoerster8759
      @treyfoerster8759 4 года назад

      @@ChrisSalePhoto Yes, you simply screw off a little for the position and used the ballhead on the tripod to adjust the position of the camera. My promaster HGX Prime code 5687 goes from 1.3-8 stops and it is a soft stop meaning it doesn't go to 3 then 6, you can use anything between.

  • @georgesmith3022
    @georgesmith3022 3 года назад

    The link for the equipment used is not working. I think it is a good idea to put these links directly on the description of each video

  • @danielodonoghue3529
    @danielodonoghue3529 4 года назад +3

    I honestly find grads more of a hindrance than a help. Love a CPL and solid NDs...but grads leave me cold.

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад

      We're all different I suppose Daniel - it is hard to explain but I find that there is something very satisfying positioning a grad and seeing all the tones bunch up on the histogram. I is also very reassuring. With bracketing I never leave a location feeling 100% that I have nailed the shot because it has let me down so many times.

  • @wilsonwhanau5618
    @wilsonwhanau5618 4 года назад +1

    I’m finding you have a lot more to offer than Thomas Heaton who’s photos have become quite amateur looking. You’re going well Chris...maybe start selling your LUTS/LOOKS.

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад +1

      I am sorry to hear that Wilson. Tom is a cracking photographer so if he's struggling at the moment I am sure it won't be long before he's back on form. I do have a set of LR presets that I give away to people who book post processing 1-2-1s.

  • @TimberGeek
    @TimberGeek 4 года назад +1

    I felt your images were processed a little warmer than usual (a bit more punch in the yellows and greens), do you think that could be a side effect of loosing the color cast of the Lee filters or just matching the feel of the day?

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад

      I think that was probably just the gorgeous light that I had that morning. I have changed my post processing for the summer but that is a move away from exaggerating the oranges and yellows in favour of bring out the greens more.

  • @BizzleByron
    @BizzleByron 4 года назад +1

    My OCD is getting triggered by your release knob being to the front on your tripod head 😆

    • @ChrisSalePhoto
      @ChrisSalePhoto  4 года назад +1

      Benro ball heads have a spirit level bubble on the 'back'. They are very difficult to use if they are tucked away under the lens! :)

    • @BizzleByron
      @BizzleByron 4 года назад

      Chris Sale Ah..... I use a Benro too. I may have to overcome my OCD - keep up the good work.

  • @squaretops1
    @squaretops1 4 месяца назад

    This and other videos never show us beginners how to use these filters step by step and how to adjust your camera before you take the shot its so frustrating.I havent a clue how to set up