Hahaha!! Brilliant details, insight in photography and laughing my head off. So kind my friend x made me a happy chappy. The day isn’t soon enough to see you and lots of our friends again.
actually I think it's a great photo, since it both has character (in the sense of attitude) and story, which is almost the holy grail. Just by looking at it, the brain begins to fill in a lot of details about what is happening, and the un-stagedeness of it shows through as well
A great video Chris! Yes, I also always find so many mistakes when I go through my images :) But it's really a good way to improve and to avoid them next time. Stay safe, Chris!
Chris, this is great. I think it’s one of your most helpful videos. Sometimes I can sense that something is off about a composition, but I don’t know what it is. This helps train the eye to focus on common issues. Thanks.
These critiques are actually logical and they actually make sense. Good critiques like these don't come along very often. Have you considered lecturing about landscape photography? Most critiques are just vague and silly. But you're able to make specific points that one can actually be understood. And they all make sense. Well done. You might have a knack for this and a vocation.
I don't know about lecturing Tony but do have the opportunity to work with some of the photography students at the University of Nottingham. Something to look forward to.
Excellent tips, Chris! Stumbled upon your channel a few weeks back and have been watching non-stop to learn as much as possible. Love the recommendations of other landscape photographer channels to check out as well. Keep up the great work!
I have learned a great deal from this video. I am a huge fan of colorful skies, but like you said, if a composition doesn't work without colorful skies, it's not going to work with them. The skies are a distraction then. Despite being colorful, sometimes it's better to give up a big portion of your sky because of the composition. Great tips. Thank you for sharing.
Hey Muji - I think the point that I was trying to make was that colourful skies are often confused with good light and they are not the same thing at all.
Thanks for that Chris, helped me through this Saturday morning. Totally agree with what you said. There are times when a "record" of where you've visited is worth taking, just as a memory, especially a place that you may never visit again. Time to watch Tigger on Acid. Promised him I'd watch his vlog this morning. Cuppa and cake at the ready.
Chris, Excellent self-observations. I appreciate your humility. So many of us become so attached to our efforts that we can't see basic compositional flaws. Acknowledgement that there is always something else to learn, something that I don't know allows me to grow to better work. Many thanks for demonstrating that. Sometimes when I study my shots, I find I have to go back to the same location several times to get it right. Of course the light and other elements will be different, but the composition, exposure, focus, f-stop, shutter speed, ISO, etc. can be treated accordingly. For me, it comes down to how much patience I have to see it done properly. The quick single image works very little of the time so it's the craft of practice, practice, practise.
Superb illustrations Chris. probably i should be downloading this onto my phone , and i should keep watching this before i go out to shoot every time. Very very helpful. I am guilty of making several of them and never figured out why they don't work. this clears my head.
So pleased to hear that you found this useful. I have been considering creating a composition check list and saving it as a jpg so people can put it on their phones. What do you think?
Chris Sale yea things are ok at the moment thanks. Tougher than normal but not as bad as was predicted. Hoping it isn’t just the calm before a storm. Stay safe!
Hi Chris: Thanks for preparing and sharing this video. I can't wait to come to the Lake District and capture images from these same locations ourselves. We looking forward to spending some time with you and explore this amazing location. Keep safe . . . Keith Pinn (Canada)
Brilliant mate! Loved this....great tips. I look back at my photos from only a couple of years ago and the mistakes leap out at me now, all part of the learning process though. Went to Rome and took some howlers, can’t wait to go back to make a better job of it, as long as we learn from our mistakes 👍🏻🤘🏻
Thank you for creating this. It was very educational. 15 minutes well spent. I can't wait for confinement to end, so I go out taking pictures and incorporate these lessons.
Thanks for the video Chris. I came across your videos tonight and after watching tons of videos on RUclips on how to take landscape images, your video has shown me so much just by pointing out your own mistakes, and can definitely identify with lots of the mistakes in my own images, that have caused me to scratch my head and ask myself why they’re not working. Thanks again for the insights and I’m now off to find you on Instagram
Fantastic video. I was excited that I actually spotted the problem in two or three of the images before I heard you reveal them. That lighthouse pic is a hoot! A perfect placement of the lighthouse top on the horizon. One would instantly conclude that you did that on purpose. It's cringe worthy, as the saying goes, but excusable after no sleep. Great learning in just a few minutes. I'm going to watch this one a couple of more times. Thanks.
Good video Chris, it’s interesting to hear photographers talk about why their images don’t work, I probably learn more from these ones. Quite often I don’t really know how boring some of my compositions are until I can view them on a larger screen, all part of the process though, so much to learn still. Thanks for the information 👍
@@ChrisSalePhoto Thanks for the reply, yes that did sound a bit negative didn't it, I meant more that I think the composition is ok when I'm out taking the photo only to find that when I look at it in a larger screen I find it just doesn't work. I do occasionally get ones I'm happy with too though it's not all negative 👍
Really helpful Chris!!! There so many things to look at, before you should press the shutter. If you have a stunning sky like in your picture, than the sky should be the main subject.
Hi Chris, I enjoyed this video and it certainly highlights many of the mistakes I have, and still do, make when I'm out. I think I'll take a photo of the 10 'mistakes' and save them on my phone to look out before I take a photo once 'lockdown' is over and we can all get out. Thanks again for the video, take care and stay safe.
Another great instructional vlog on compositional mistakes & no no's... It definitely shows that by critiquing & reviewing your photos & identifying & embracing your mistakes allows & helps you to improve & better your photography Also goes to show that no matter who you are your are going to cock up every now & then... 👍 Regards David
That is certainly key to my approach Lian, I often have to return 2 or 3 times (sometimes more) until I get the shot that I am after. Often that is for the conditions but it is also so that I can fine tune the composition.
Who places the top of a lighthouse right on the horizon!! 😉Great tips Chris for improving composition and interest while on location. One tip I’ve found helpful during post processing is to flip your picture 180 degrees and to see if there are any distracting or ‘wasted’ areas when you look at it in this unusual view.
It is just as I told you when we spoke Darren. I can only spot these mistakes in other peoples work because I have made them all myself. And infinitely more! :)
I really enjoyed this video. You really made some great points. When you first showed your photos they all looked just fine to me. However, when you started to point out the things that you found problematic in your photos I did have to agree but would have never noticed them on my own. It really gives me something else to watch out for when I'm out taking my own photos. Thank you for sharing. I also know what you mean about Mali. I've been following his channel as well. I found out about him on the Pubcasts on Saturdays. They are so much fun to watch and seem like a really fun group of guys.
They're not a bad bunch of guys really are they. I have had the pleasure of meeting all of them at one time or another and I lucky enough to call James and Mail friends.
Chris Sale That's why enjoy following all of them and you. You all seem to be just a group of really nice guys who just also happen to be really good photographers.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts Chris in this vlog I found them very helpful. Loved your final composition of the Langdale Pikes, can I add though that it needs more finessing, a final poIish so to speak. I listened to you regarding the second shot but I think you need to give the Pikes, Harrison Stickle and Pavey Ark a little more headroom and on the right hand edge a crag has been cut off so I think you could afford to loose some landscape on the left of the frame without sacrificing anything further. I'd be interested in your thoughts Chris?
It's a 16:9 crop for RUclips. The final image will be 1.414:1 for printing. This will allow me to include a little more sky but I will loose more of the right hand side of the image. There is a nature place to put the edge of the frame just to the right of Stickle Ghyll. The position of the left hand side of the frame will be dictated by the bend in Mickleden Beck.
Thank you for pointing all those mistakes out! further to this I just wonder if there is any equipment thats been bought and not used much, perhaps another blog in the future! Thank you for your time.....take care!
Right and wrong is a personal preference, I liked your pics. Bear in mind the brain can cope with viewing more than one item so I personally don't think it as bad as you're implying. Anyway, very good, thanks.
It's easy and fun spotting other peoples mistakes! But when it comes to my photography the hardest thing is to spot the mistake while I'm taking the photo. I think I'm making all these mistakes at the same time!
Good advice. Too often, we don't catch these problems until we see them on a 26-inch screen, and then it's too late to re-create the shot. I could best use your tips by creating a checklist and reviewing it immediately before landscape shoots. I could re-write each tip as a positive: "1. Pick a primary subject!".... "3. Separate the foreground from the background."...."7. Eliminate distractions in the foreground." etc. Otherwise, it's tough to see these problems on location on a 3-inch screen.
Enjoyed the video Chris - thanks. With regards to the Ullswater photograph at the end, I think you need great light and a great composition. Photography is ‘drawing with light’ and you can have the most amazing composition but without light or the ‘right’ light it will be distinctively average.
Great stuff! TY!!! As for the compositions of the "Pikes" photo...I feel the primary reason for going wider was the BEAUTIFUL valley displayed. The CONTENT of what is in the shot, not merely for "context". If the wider view showed more boring elements, perhaps the more zoomed-in shot would have been the better.
It is the way that I build my images. First I look for a primary subject then I frame my composition to include some of the surrounding area. I refer to this as giving the subject context. As I mature as a photographer I generally avoid compositions that include a subject but none of the surrounding area.
@@ChrisSalePhoto fully understood. My point was that it is not merely the inclusion of surroundings for context, but the importance of making sure that inclusion is pleasing to the eye.
@@ChrisSalePhoto fully understood. My point was that it is not merely the inclusion of surroundings for context, but the importance of making sure that inclusion is pleasing to the eye.
Great video, my dad got heavily into photography when he was young, I'm basically self taught in photography by looking through his photos and now via RUclips/Internet now, and could immediately see the errors as soon as each photo came up, if you don't mind me saying though, maybe it's the screen I'm looking at, but a lot of the photos seem, at least to me, seem over saturated At 1:08, nice photo, but you say it lacks a focal point... I disagree, the reflection is the focal point, maybe it could have done with a small island like 3:39, but we have to work with what we've got
I agree with all your critiques except the scene at 10:45. Since I'm not familiar with the view, the foreground is the subject and in that regard I think it is successful.
Nice one mate--informative and entertaining. I trust you had to look hard to find examples of common mistakes amongst your own catalog of photos. 😉 Obviously some very sensible advice here-I know I have made most if not all of these errors at least once. So frustrating when it's a good comp with good light only to be let down by a rather simple mistake. Oh well, such is the nature of photography. I'm pleased to hear that you are busy with Skype image critiques. I seem to remember you once saying that you did not feel comfortable or qualified to judge someone else's work but I think good constructive criticism is invaluable and you are quite good at it.Cheers!
Thanks mate that is very kind of you to say so. I have a bit more confidence in reviewing other peoples images as I have been studying composition and working hard to improve my own. I am also able to spot mistakes that others have made because I am more aware of my own. Hope you are well and I look forward to speaking soon.
I've definitely been guilty of cranking up my overall color too much. I'm re-editing old images with more subtlety & using Photoshop more. P.S. I'm surprised you didn't sign off with "Sithee!"
Thanks Chris, lots of good advice. When you took the 10 shots did you realise they were mistakes at the time or did the realisation come with experience?
No, with the exception of the Start Point Lighthouse shot I didn't spot the mistakes and till afterwards. In some cases it was months if not years before I became aware of them.
Very interesting. Image #4 could be easily 'corrected' by cropping out the 8 or 9 distant animals on the right per photoshop. Sometimes an image does not require a major point of interest the overall composition being pleasing no matter where the eye settles as in this case. Greetings from a Brit residing in the USA
You know I prefer the tight shot of the mountain rather than the wider one. In some senses the mountain is no longer the subject because there is too much around it on the left but the right is still tight. The mountain itself (and not just the valley or the environment) is beautiful and deserves to be the subject uncluttered by environmental things. But again this is just what I like. Just thought I would pass it along.
I think that is a very fair observation Erich. Another case of just how subjective photography can be. Personally I always like to include some of the landscape around my subject as it helps me with the story telling aspect of photography.
Colourful sky images for me, and it is subjective, can be as bad as bad HDR, unless the sky complements the land, and the sky is essentially the primary subject.
Nice one Chris … how useful was that ? It captures all the oversights that have escaped every single one of us, frequently in my case, when we get caught up in the moment. Only when we look at it on the big screen does the clang that ruins the shot reveal itself. Informative and in a funny way inspirational. Well done !
With the exception of the Start Point Lighthouse, I only spotted these mistakes once I got the images up on the screen. In some cases it was months or even years later that I noticed them. I am hoping that is a sign that I am maturing as a photographer.
Thks for the tutorial, you didn't mention how to CROP the image to make the image looks better, the look of the sky can be hacked in numerous ways to make look better hence its color is not of great importance.
Hi Chris, how are you? Hope it is all fine. Here same old story... We wait! LOL I was watching your video and I don't agree with you on the image at 11.56. If it may interest, my 2 cent: the problem is not the hugepart of trees, butthe fact that inthose trwws it is hard to read particulars. I find most disturbing the objects in the lake. Personally they ruin the entire scene. By the way it is a great image, speaking about composition, light and tones. I like it so much!
Hey Gianni - that is fine mate, it is all subjective. Personally I HATE it! I like to have much more subtlety in my images, but that is a personal choice. Hope you are well. What are you doing to keep yourself busy?
@@ChrisSalePhoto absolutely, everything is personal to what we like or dislike. Probably if I would show you my images, you'll become blind... And I should buy you new eyes on the black market! Here is fine, studying new techniques of shooting and post processing. Learning new softwares. Also making some plans for when they will leave the leash!!!
Enjoyed your latest video Chris, thanks for keeping them coming in these difficult times. One point to note, Nine Standards Rigg is not in the Yorkshire Dales...it is in Cumbria and falls within the Pennine AONB some 700m outside of the YDNP. You have been living up north long enough to know that county boundaries are cherished in our neck of the woods.
Nice, I’m sure I did and probably still do a lot of them. I’m a sucker for great sunset sky and other things too :-) so I often get too excited with things or sometimes cannot be arsed to walk or climb to get the horizon at the right spot, or to balance things out of find some great foreground interest and most times I lack a nice model to plant in my vista :-))) it takes a brave man to make public his mistakes. Knowing them is one thing avoid them is another. And it is not always due to the lack of knowledge.
I can totally relate to 'cannot be arsed to walk or climb' Dimitris, one of my worst failings. I think that will be different once lockdown is over. Mrs Sale won't see me for weeks!
Hahaha!! Brilliant details, insight in photography and laughing my head off. So kind my friend x made me a happy chappy. The day isn’t soon enough to see you and lots of our friends again.
I look forward to it mate.
"Tigger on acid" is the most apt description to date. ;-D
actually I think it's a great photo, since it both has character (in the sense of attitude) and story, which is almost the holy grail. Just by looking at it, the brain begins to fill in a lot of details about what is happening, and the un-stagedeness of it shows through as well
"If a composition doesn't work without a colorful sky, then it probably doesn't work with one" - great point! :)
Great vlog Chris. A man who has never made a mistake has never made anything!
I could not agree more Russell. I often think that if you aren't making the odd mistake every now and then then you probably aren't pushing yourself.
Thank you Chris for sharing al these useful tips, love to see more of this kind of videos
Thanks Hugo - I have a few ideas for future videos that I am working on at the moment.
Dude, what a fantastic vlog. The most informative 15 minutes of my life. Top man.
Wow! Thanks Stephen, glad you found it useful.
Great lesson in composition Chris, thanks for sharing. "Tigger on acid" too funny.
He can be very bouncy at times John.
A great video Chris! Yes, I also always find so many mistakes when I go through my images :) But it's really a good way to improve and to avoid them next time. Stay safe, Chris!
Thanks mate - hope you are well and keeping yourself busy.
Chris, this is great. I think it’s one of your most helpful videos. Sometimes I can sense that something is off about a composition, but I don’t know what it is. This helps train the eye to focus on common issues. Thanks.
Thanks Scott - glad it was useful.
These critiques are actually logical and they actually make sense. Good critiques like these don't come along very often. Have you considered lecturing about landscape photography? Most critiques are just vague and silly. But you're able to make specific points that one can actually be understood. And they all make sense. Well done. You might have a knack for this and a vocation.
I don't know about lecturing Tony but do have the opportunity to work with some of the photography students at the University of Nottingham. Something to look forward to.
@@ChrisSalePhoto Then I would say look forward with confidence in your abilities
Thanks Chris - great vlog - honest and informative as always. Stay safe mate.
Thanks Paul, you too mate.
Great tips , thank you. Look forward to see more of your videos.
Excellent tips, Chris! Stumbled upon your channel a few weeks back and have been watching non-stop to learn as much as possible.
Love the recommendations of other landscape photographer channels to check out as well.
Keep up the great work!
Hi Scott - glad to hear that you are able to learn from my videos. All I want to be do is to help and to inspire as many people as possible.
I have learned a great deal from this video. I am a huge fan of colorful skies, but like you said, if a composition doesn't work without colorful skies, it's not going to work with them. The skies are a distraction then. Despite being colorful, sometimes it's better to give up a big portion of your sky because of the composition. Great tips. Thank you for sharing.
Hey Muji - I think the point that I was trying to make was that colourful skies are often confused with good light and they are not the same thing at all.
Really enjoyed this video Chris. Some obvious and some not so obvious mistakes but mistakes we have all made at one time or another :-)
Cheers Barry, pleased you enjoyed it.
Hello Chris, another great video with an educational twist. You make your point about the composition so clear. Thanks for the guidance. Stay safe😷
My pleasure Malcolm, I hope it was useful.
Thanks for that Chris, helped me through this Saturday morning. Totally agree with what you said. There are times when a "record" of where you've visited is worth taking, just as a memory, especially a place that you may never visit again.
Time to watch Tigger on Acid. Promised him I'd watch his vlog this morning. Cuppa and cake at the ready.
Has he got another video out Steve? I haven't seen it yet.
Chris, Excellent self-observations. I appreciate your humility. So many of us become so attached to our efforts that we can't see basic compositional flaws. Acknowledgement that there is always something else to learn, something that I don't know allows me to grow to better work. Many thanks for demonstrating that. Sometimes when I study my shots, I find I have to go back to the same location several times to get it right. Of course the light and other elements will be different, but the composition, exposure, focus, f-stop, shutter speed, ISO, etc. can be treated accordingly. For me, it comes down to how much patience I have to see it done properly. The quick single image works very little of the time so it's the craft of practice, practice, practise.
Very interesting video Chris, lots of very good tips for landscape. Thank you for sharing. keep safe and well.
Thanks John, I hope it was useful.
Superb illustrations Chris. probably i should be downloading this onto my phone , and i should keep watching this before i go out to shoot every time. Very very helpful. I am guilty of making several of them and never figured out why they don't work. this clears my head.
So pleased to hear that you found this useful. I have been considering creating a composition check list and saving it as a jpg so people can put it on their phones. What do you think?
A great list of tips that I’ll be sure to take forward with me. Thanks again Chris!
Thanks Phil - hope you are keeping well mate.
Chris Sale yea things are ok at the moment thanks. Tougher than normal but not as bad as was predicted. Hoping it isn’t just the calm before a storm. Stay safe!
Hi Chris: Thanks for preparing and sharing this video. I can't wait to come to the Lake District and capture images from these same locations ourselves. We looking forward to spending some time with you and explore this amazing location. Keep safe . . . Keith Pinn (Canada)
Looking forward to meeting you both Keith. We will visit some of these locations for sure when you are here.
Brilliant mate! Loved this....great tips. I look back at my photos from only a couple of years ago and the mistakes leap out at me now, all part of the learning process though. Went to Rome and took some howlers, can’t wait to go back to make a better job of it, as long as we learn from our mistakes 👍🏻🤘🏻
Glad you enjoyed it Tim - hope you get back to Rome soon.
Great video. Definitely learned a few things. Looking forward to some more.
Thanks a lot, Chris! Very instructive video, clear and right to the point.
Thank you Sebastian - I hope it was useful.
Excellent video, valuable critiques! Thanks!
My pleasure Bob.
Great insights - I have committed most if not ALL of the mistakes you list here, and you c lear explanations are very helpful. Thanks a lot!
Excellent stuff, have to watch it again to take it all in
Thanks very much, hope that you can find something useful in there somewhere.
Here from Muji's video! Thanks for sharing Chris! Enjoyed the insights.
Thank you for creating this. It was very educational. 15 minutes well spent. I can't wait for confinement to end, so I go out taking pictures and incorporate these lessons.
Very simply put and understandable. Good job.
Thanks Rick - I hope it was useful.
Thanks for the video Chris. I came across your videos tonight and after watching tons of videos on RUclips on how to take landscape images, your video has shown me so much just by pointing out your own mistakes, and can definitely identify with lots of the mistakes in my own images, that have caused me to scratch my head and ask myself why they’re not working. Thanks again for the insights and I’m now off to find you on Instagram
Some great tips and pointers there Chris ... Thanks
Thanks very much Paul, hope they are useful.
Fantastic video. I was excited that I actually spotted the problem in two or three of the images before I heard you reveal them. That lighthouse pic is a hoot! A perfect placement of the lighthouse top on the horizon. One would instantly conclude that you did that on purpose. It's cringe worthy, as the saying goes, but excusable after no sleep.
Great learning in just a few minutes. I'm going to watch this one a couple of more times. Thanks.
Very valuable advice,Chris. Thanks.
Great advice. Really enjoying your videos and delivery. Thx.
Well done! Photography Forever!
Good video Chris, it’s interesting to hear photographers talk about why their images don’t work, I probably learn more from these ones. Quite often I don’t really know how boring some of my compositions are until I can view them on a larger screen, all part of the process though, so much to learn still. Thanks for the information 👍
My pleasure Andy - don't be too hard on yourself, it's something that we all have to go through.
@@ChrisSalePhoto Thanks for the reply, yes that did sound a bit negative didn't it, I meant more that I think the composition is ok when I'm out taking the photo only to find that when I look at it in a larger screen I find it just doesn't work. I do occasionally get ones I'm happy with too though it's not all negative 👍
Fantastic. When u find a great subject u have to walk around it and sometimes miles.....
Really helpful Chris!!! There so many things to look at, before you should press the shutter.
If you have a stunning sky like in your picture, than the sky should be the main subject.
Hi mate - you are probably right about the sky mate, but I would never want to take a photo like that. It's just not my thing.
Thanks for sharing Chris. Some really good tips in there. Cheers
Super helpful with the "bad" examples to clarify.
Glad you found it useful.
Thank you for making and explaining my mistakes:-) for me one of your best vids
This is so brilliant and fun, will share it on my blog and watch again:-)
Thanks Øyvind, I really appreciate it.
Hi Chris, I enjoyed this video and it certainly highlights many of the mistakes I have, and still do, make when I'm out. I think I'll take a photo of the 10 'mistakes' and save them on my phone to look out before I take a photo once 'lockdown' is over and we can all get out. Thanks again for the video, take care and stay safe.
Hi Deryck - perhaps I should write a composition check list and save it as a jpg so that people can carry it around on their phones with them?
Thanks for the awesome information. I learned a lot and this will be super helpful! I’m stoked to practice.
Another great instructional vlog on compositional mistakes & no no's... It definitely shows that by critiquing & reviewing your photos & identifying & embracing your mistakes allows & helps you to improve & better your photography Also goes to show that no matter who you are your are going to cock up every now & then... 👍 Regards David
I we aren't making a few mistakes David, then we aren't pushing ourselves hard enough.
@@ChrisSalePhoto Exactly
Great vlog Chris. Could have been made with me in mind!!! Stay safe
Hi Gordon, so nice to hear from you, hope you are well. There are a couple of things that I think you would find useful.
A very good podcast. The only way to get it right is to go out there take the pics and evaluate honestly. AND go out again until you got it right.
That is certainly key to my approach Lian, I often have to return 2 or 3 times (sometimes more) until I get the shot that I am after. Often that is for the conditions but it is also so that I can fine tune the composition.
Who places the top of a lighthouse right on the horizon!! 😉Great tips Chris for improving composition and interest while on location. One tip I’ve found helpful during post processing is to flip your picture 180 degrees and to see if there are any distracting or ‘wasted’ areas when you look at it in this unusual view.
It is just as I told you when we spoke Darren. I can only spot these mistakes in other peoples work because I have made them all myself. And infinitely more! :)
Very much useful, some of things I've already noticed and many things are new.
Glad you found it useful.
I really enjoyed this video. You really made some great points. When you first showed your photos they all looked just fine to me. However, when you started to point out the things that you found problematic in your photos I did have to agree but would have never noticed them on my own. It really gives me something else to watch out for when I'm out taking my own photos. Thank you for sharing. I also know what you mean about Mali. I've been following his channel as well. I found out about him on the Pubcasts on Saturdays. They are so much fun to watch and seem like a really fun group of guys.
They're not a bad bunch of guys really are they. I have had the pleasure of meeting all of them at one time or another and I lucky enough to call James and Mail friends.
Chris Sale That's why enjoy following all of them and you. You all seem to be just a group of really nice guys who just also happen to be really good photographers.
Great video Chris, top advice as always.
Cheers Stephen - always good to go back over old photos to see where you might have done better.
Wonderful video ! Thank you for the help👍
My pleasure Kim, I hope you find it useful.
Funny how we often know when we are making mistakes but do it anyway. You helped me a lot. Thanks
Subscribed, this video is awesome thank you this is exactly what I needed and had noticed issues in my photography but couldnt pinpoint the issues.
Some great tips here...no doubt I'll continue to ignore them all though!
Thank you Chris for all your videos ,,, Interesting stuff
My pleasure Gary.
Great tips! We all make mistakes, and it's always good learning from them! 😊
...and I make more mistakes that most Elly, so I have plenty to learn from! :)
Thanks for sharing your thoughts Chris in this vlog I found them very helpful.
Loved your final composition of the Langdale Pikes, can I add though that it needs more finessing, a final poIish so to speak. I listened to you regarding the second shot but I think you need to give the Pikes, Harrison Stickle and Pavey Ark a little more headroom and on the right hand edge a crag has been cut off so I think you could afford to loose some landscape on the left of the frame without sacrificing anything further. I'd be interested in your thoughts Chris?
It's a 16:9 crop for RUclips. The final image will be 1.414:1 for printing. This will allow me to include a little more sky but I will loose more of the right hand side of the image. There is a nature place to put the edge of the frame just to the right of Stickle Ghyll. The position of the left hand side of the frame will be dictated by the bend in Mickleden Beck.
Thanks Chris. Nothing new but a bit of revision doesn't hurt :-) Although I'm a bit concerned that Mali has his muff out again! :-O
Great learning experience... thanks!
My pleasure Valdis.
Thank you for pointing all those mistakes out! further to this I just wonder if there is any equipment thats been bought and not used much, perhaps another blog in the future! Thank you for your time.....take care!
Right and wrong is a personal preference, I liked your pics. Bear in mind the brain can cope with viewing more than one item so I personally don't think it as bad as you're implying. Anyway, very good, thanks.
Really useful analysis, thank you Chris.
It's easy and fun spotting other peoples mistakes! But when it comes to my photography the hardest thing is to spot the mistake while I'm taking the photo. I think I'm making all these mistakes at the same time!
Hi Nek, how are you? I hope you are well. I have seen your work mate and I don't think you make too many mistakes. Keep up the good work buddy! :)
@@ChrisSalePhoto Ha, you should see my work without cropping and processing! I'm doing fine so far. Hope you and your wife are well too!
Thank you Chris. I have learned,
So pleased to hear it.
Good advice. Too often, we don't catch these problems until we see them on a 26-inch screen, and then it's too late to re-create the shot.
I could best use your tips by creating a checklist and reviewing it immediately before landscape shoots. I could re-write each tip as a positive: "1. Pick a primary subject!".... "3. Separate the foreground from the background."...."7. Eliminate distractions in the foreground." etc. Otherwise, it's tough to see these problems on location on a 3-inch screen.
Thanks Roger - I was think of writing a check list and saving it as a jpg so that people could put it on their phones. What do you think?
This was another great video a gold mine of information for me to use thank you again
My pleasure Scott. Glad you found it useful.
Enjoyed the video Chris - thanks. With regards to the Ullswater photograph at the end, I think you need great light and a great composition. Photography is ‘drawing with light’ and you can have the most amazing composition but without light or the ‘right’ light it will be distinctively average.
I agree Graham - the point that I was trying to make was that a bright sky and great light are not the same thing.
Some great tips there Chris.
Thanks John, I hope they are useful.
They were Chris thanks.
This was really helpful Chris thank you so much.
It was my pleasure Kathryn, so pleased that I could help.
Great tips, many thanks. John.
My pleasure John
Wonderful pointers for composition
Great stuff! TY!!! As for the compositions of the "Pikes" photo...I feel the primary reason for going wider was the BEAUTIFUL valley displayed. The CONTENT of what is in the shot, not merely for "context". If the wider view showed more boring elements, perhaps the more zoomed-in shot would have been the better.
It is the way that I build my images. First I look for a primary subject then I frame my composition to include some of the surrounding area. I refer to this as giving the subject context. As I mature as a photographer I generally avoid compositions that include a subject but none of the surrounding area.
@@ChrisSalePhoto fully understood. My point was that it is not merely the inclusion of surroundings for context, but the importance of making sure that inclusion is pleasing to the eye.
@@ChrisSalePhoto fully understood. My point was that it is not merely the inclusion of surroundings for context, but the importance of making sure that inclusion is pleasing to the eye.
Great video, my dad got heavily into photography when he was young, I'm basically self taught in photography by looking through his photos and now via RUclips/Internet now, and could immediately see the errors as soon as each photo came up, if you don't mind me saying though, maybe it's the screen I'm looking at, but a lot of the photos seem, at least to me, seem over saturated
At 1:08, nice photo, but you say it lacks a focal point... I disagree, the reflection is the focal point, maybe it could have done with a small island like 3:39, but we have to work with what we've got
I agree with all your critiques except the scene at 10:45.
Since I'm not familiar with the view, the foreground is the subject and in that regard I think it is successful.
Yes I have to say that when I first looked at the image my eye's went straight to the foreground rocks.
Very good video. Very well explained and good examples. 👍
Thank Kenny, hope that you found it useful.
the last picture is beautiful with or without a colorful sky in my oppinion
Nice one mate--informative and entertaining. I trust you had to look hard to find examples of common mistakes amongst your own catalog of photos. 😉 Obviously some very sensible advice here-I know I have made most if not all of these errors at least once. So frustrating when it's a good comp with good light only to be let down by a rather simple mistake. Oh well, such is the nature of photography. I'm pleased to hear that you are busy with Skype image critiques. I seem to remember you once saying that you did not feel comfortable or qualified to judge someone else's work but I think good constructive criticism is invaluable and you are quite good at it.Cheers!
Thanks mate that is very kind of you to say so. I have a bit more confidence in reviewing other peoples images as I have been studying composition and working hard to improve my own. I am also able to spot mistakes that others have made because I am more aware of my own. Hope you are well and I look forward to speaking soon.
great video! instant subscribed
Thanks Ramon - I hope that you found it useful.
"Tigger on acid"
Everything I love about going out with Mali 😂
Twa-Dags Photography I’m watching now and just read this and pissing my sides x
So kind my friend! Big love
"The wonderful thing about Malis, is Malis are wonderful things..."
Chris Sale im having that! So kind hehe 😂 😍👍
I've definitely been guilty of cranking up my overall color too much. I'm re-editing old images with more subtlety & using Photoshop more. P.S. I'm surprised you didn't sign off with "Sithee!"
"Sithee" is a northern thing John, I am from the south so if I started using northern phrases I would get lynched!
Thanks Chris, lots of good advice. When you took the 10 shots did you realise they were mistakes at the time or did the realisation come with experience?
No, with the exception of the Start Point Lighthouse shot I didn't spot the mistakes and till afterwards. In some cases it was months if not years before I became aware of them.
very good video. thank you!
Excellent.
Very interesting. Image #4 could be easily 'corrected' by cropping out the 8 or 9 distant animals on the right per photoshop. Sometimes an image does not require a major
point of interest the overall composition being pleasing no matter where the eye settles as in this case. Greetings from a Brit residing in the USA
Very useful, thank you
My pleasure Rodney - glad I am able to help.
You know I prefer the tight shot of the mountain rather than the wider one. In some senses the mountain is no longer the subject because there is too much around it on the left but the right is still tight. The mountain itself (and not just the valley or the environment) is beautiful and deserves to be the subject uncluttered by environmental things. But again this is just what I like. Just thought I would pass it along.
I think that is a very fair observation Erich. Another case of just how subjective photography can be. Personally I always like to include some of the landscape around my subject as it helps me with the story telling aspect of photography.
Mali has a great channel. Stop by, he won't let you leave.
Colourful sky images for me, and it is subjective, can be as bad as bad HDR, unless the sky complements the land, and the sky is essentially the primary subject.
I agree to a point Warren, but in my own work I would never want the sky to be the primary subject. Just a personal preference.
Nice one Chris … how useful was that ?
It captures all the oversights that have escaped every single one of us, frequently in my case, when we get caught up in the moment. Only when we look at it on the big screen does the clang that ruins the shot reveal itself. Informative and in a funny way inspirational. Well done !
With the exception of the Start Point Lighthouse, I only spotted these mistakes once I got the images up on the screen. In some cases it was months or even years later that I noticed them. I am hoping that is a sign that I am maturing as a photographer.
Thks for the tutorial, you didn't mention how to CROP the image to make the image looks better, the look of the sky can be hacked in numerous ways to make look better hence its color is not of great importance.
Hi Chris, how are you? Hope it is all fine.
Here same old story... We wait! LOL
I was watching your video and I don't agree with you on the image at 11.56.
If it may interest, my 2 cent: the problem is not the hugepart of trees, butthe fact that inthose trwws it is hard to read particulars. I find most disturbing the objects in the lake. Personally they ruin the entire scene. By the way it is a great image, speaking about composition, light and tones. I like it so much!
Hey Gianni - that is fine mate, it is all subjective. Personally I HATE it! I like to have much more subtlety in my images, but that is a personal choice. Hope you are well. What are you doing to keep yourself busy?
@@ChrisSalePhoto absolutely, everything is personal to what we like or dislike. Probably if I would show you my images, you'll become blind... And I should buy you new eyes on the black market!
Here is fine, studying new techniques of shooting and post processing. Learning new softwares.
Also making some plans for when they will leave the leash!!!
Do I get royalties?
Good
Oh, just move that horizon down an inch below the lighthouse in photoshop! 😎
You over estimate my Photoshop skills mate!
@@ChrisSalePhoto Lol, hey, you've got plenty of time to learn right now 😉
You didn't put enough emphasis on Brian Blessed's name.
You should've said it as, "BRIAN BLESSED!!!!" 🤣
My Brian Blessed impression is awful Mike, truly awful.
@@ChrisSalePhoto 🤣
Enjoyed your latest video Chris, thanks for keeping them coming in these difficult times. One point to note, Nine Standards Rigg is not in the Yorkshire Dales...it is in Cumbria and falls within the Pennine AONB some 700m outside of the YDNP. You have been living up north long enough to know that county boundaries are cherished in our neck of the woods.
Brian Blessed's love child. Hahaha. 😂
Nice, I’m sure I did and probably still do a lot of them. I’m a sucker for great sunset sky and other things too :-) so I often get too excited with things or sometimes cannot be arsed to walk or climb to get the horizon at the right spot, or to balance things out of find some great foreground interest and most times I lack a nice model to plant in my vista :-))) it takes a brave man to make public his mistakes. Knowing them is one thing avoid them is another. And it is not always due to the lack of knowledge.
I can totally relate to 'cannot be arsed to walk or climb' Dimitris, one of my worst failings. I think that will be different once lockdown is over. Mrs Sale won't see me for weeks!