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The new room is cool and all, but i really miss the Distressor's angry Glenn meter.
seriously it is an ad for that compressor by itself ...
A good video could be measured in redness
@@gilbertspader7974 Nice one!
@@gilbertspader7974 lol
I actually miss it too! How weird, I'm not the only one.
Started my guitar career with Guitar Hero for PlayStation 2 back in 2007, and was told by a girl I liked that I should start playing a real guitar, bought my Ibanez SA260 and started playing. Now I'm in a touring norwegian black metal band! Music games can be a good gateway!
It’s comforting to know there are people who started playing music thanks to video games. I wanted to learn guitar so bad until I played Rock Band and had so much fun with the drumming peripheral. My parents bought me a drum set once I mastered expert difficulty, and I haven’t picked up another instrument since.
Fuck yes they can, my dad who was a drummer in a lot of bands round town bought guitar hero 2 for me and I've since bought eveyy other one and played them all too, and for my tenth birthday he bought me my first real guitar and for my 13th a Squire Affinity Stratocaster that I absolutely adore. It was a great bonding experience for my dad and I and it gave us some common ground on music
My brother could destroy guitar hero when he was 10.. rock band came out at a Walmart display and he started playing.. attracted a crowd and got a big applause after killing some song on expert haha.
I could see how well he could count the music and how good his timing was.. bought him a guitar for his birthday and a week later he was playing sweet child of mine and even getting through the solo.
We have always recorded together as a band, playing off each other.. and often get criticised for sounding "to live" or "garagey".. go figure.. you can't win.. surely a band is SUPPOSED TO SOUND REAL!!!.. Thank you Glenn for pushing that point!
Orale, "too live" seriously? Their complaint is that it sounds like a performance???
This I why I'm glad I'm a jazz dude... Playing perfect is playing lame and a sin with us
Moving slow off stage is bad. But damn one time a band decided to casually sell merch on stage after their set before the headlining band. That was so obnoxious.
The audience must have been thrilled and mesmerized. Hope you enjoyed your last performance guys.
@@kenwinston2245 the band has since been black listed from a few venues from what I've heard.
Tom Weaver Whats the band?
Funny story about leaving the stage: My Band played at a pretty big city festival here in Augsburg, Germany. The rules were easy, every band got 1 1/2 h on stage, setting up and tearing down included. We got there really early, even though beeing the third band of four. We listened to all the others, hyping up the crowd for them, talking to the sound and light guys beforehands, so we could get everthing set up really fast. Then the last band arrived. They came just halve an hour before they had to be on stage and the very first thing they told us was "Hey, hurry up, you only have halve an hour left." We finished gloriously but absolutely in time for tearing down and completely cleaned the stage within 15 min(!). But in that 15 min they were constantly urging us to hurry up, because "we were taking their valuable stage time". Well in the end, we are going to be headlining next year, beeing the most fun to watch and listen to and the most easy and professional to work with for the rest of the team.
Btw, nobody was sure, if they were to even turn up that day because ever since booking them a few months ago, nobody had ever heard anything from them, up until the point, were they finally showed up, which was wile we were already playing and almost finished.
@@ravingpotato8339 I bet they stopped getting headlining spots shortly after
Pro tip: bands that want to “make it” need to act like pros. Before playing out, practice breaking down & setting up your gear in the most efficient way possible. Shoot for 15 minutes: the amount of time allowed for setup/breakdown at showcases in New York.
And if you don't have anyone that helps your band setup. Your singer should be helping your drummer. I can't count how many times I've seen bands setting up and the singer is just at the bar.
Better yet, shoot for half that time. That leaves you with 7 minutes to troubleshoot any problems. Aside from drums, it shouldn't take more than 5 minutes to set up your instruments, as everything should be all ready to go, while the band before you is playing.
Both great points. I have no problem with musicians who like to party, whether it’s drink, smoke, whatever, as long as they can still do what they need to do and perform. I once played in a power trio and the guitarist drank a lot and was one of those guys that always gets into fights when he drinks. First gig we did, he got blasted, couldn’t remember his parts, started shit with the promoter afterwards then took off without helping us load out. Never again!
I would say jump around and be outrageous onstage, then be nice to audience members and the people who make the venue work off it.
I have to admit, my experiences with most bands have been pretty good as far as set up and tear down goes. Usually the timing issues I've dealt with have had to do with the scheduling with the venue an things external from the band lineup setup/ tear down
Cheers for the shout out. You are the man.
Glenn, I really hope you get a chance to check out the CoT pickups. Owen, they sounded awesome!
I was thinking of you when I heard this. Lol!
YES! Longer episodes - especially of YOUR show - are always worthwhile!
I did "roadie" work for my friends band. I put roadie in quotes because my primary job was getting the kit on and off the stage as fast as possible for multiple band shows. So this speaks to my heart. There's always that one drummer who takes their sweet time and doesn't want anyone else touching their gear. We had loading and unloading down to an art form. After all, you gotta get someone to the merch. booth ASAP. And yes, keep up the longer format.
I moved to LA in 1986 and played a ton of shows in LA with a wide variety of bands. Some guitar, bass, and keys, but primarily drums. Of course, I have a few things to add to the complaint about getting the drums off the stage.
One problem occurs in getting ON the stage, when the guitar and bass go set up first. They leave their cases out and open on floor, and pedals and cables are everywhere. They will often times just run up and get themselves situated first, just to get it over with, but it creates a barrier.
In getting OFF the stage, a similar thing occurs, where the guitar and bass just want to get off the stage first.
All of this was a real hassle, until I decided to speak up and make some demands. That is, to get the drums on the stage first, and then get the drums off the stage first. The rest is so easy.
Also, my wife became my drum tech. With a six-piece kit, I also used a rack mount system.
Before the show, she unpacked the drums and set everything up. This included tuning the heads, checking pedal springs, and other minute details. The drums were then ready to get on the stage, and everyone in the band grabbed something and put it up. The rack mount was the central point upon which everything else was built. By the time the guitar and bass was on stage, I was ready to go.
After the last song, my wife and I grabbed the rack mount and would carry it off. The other guys would grab a bass drum, hi-hat, or whatever, and take it back stage. We would then grab the last few pieces, and I would actually be able to help them get their stuff off the stage, too. We were the fastest around.
Then, she would pack this six-piece kit into a 1994 Saturn SL2 and wait. It was my band, and I was the only one who would promote, so her work freed me up to interact with people who came to see us, and to promote the next show, while they sat on their asses with their do-nothing girlfriends.
So, you could say the others had rack/mount wives?
She is a Keeper!! Don't lose her!!
I've had my girl like that for 12yrs and I'm not letting her get away!!!
Good luck from a fellow drummer..
I'm not a musician, but I can't stop watching your videos!
Never too late to start, my man. Take care.
I'm a country fan but ppl like rob make metal fun. How can anyone say they dont like rob? He is an amazing musician and seems like a sweet guy. All of the metal channels I watch are awesome. Keep up the amazing work and God bless.
I dunno anything about the dude, but he isn't putting out any content I'm interested in, or I'd be subscribed watching his channel. it's mostly just whacky and goofy shit that not everyone finds funny or entertaining.
@@sqlb3rn and that's fine, but from a musical standpoint he is an amazing musician. He can pick up anything and learn to play it within a few days.
@@sqlb3rn I agree. Know who I think does the best covers? .... The Tenkop ..... ruclips.net/user/TheTenkopvideos Maybe not the best quality but he is using a Zoom pedal. AMAZING. He has lots and lots of amazing covers on there. Doesnt need video at all for any of that goofy bullshit.
@@Lazy_eye_blobFish see, I wouldn't know anything about his playing because when I search his name, it's just a bunch of bullshit about playing metal with a shovel and other nonsense. But yea, I'm sure he's great.
@@sqlb3rn he likes to do comedy kind of like Stevie T, I just have a lot of peoples cup of tea. If you look up the song anchor by Rob Scallon then you'll fall in love with his playing style. The same goes for his song Rain. He does a lot of goofy stuff because that's just his personality, but he does a lot of serious stuff as well. I like artists that know how to balance out the two.
Hey Glenn! The poll isn't on the video. I'd love to see more 30 min vids. Keep the shit up!
I'll second that.
Longer is good need a laugh by friday morning
#unsubscribeoverfifteenminutes
@@Evilwhiteclownpunk you said that last time he posted a video over 15 minutes. 🤣 it isn't going to hurt him any.
I say stuffs all the time... it's fun...
I love the long format. Sure, it’s 6:20am and I’m running late for work. Worth it.
I had a show where the band was an acoustic band. With a cajon. They took the entire changeover to talk to people and take their sweet time. So by the time we got to move our shit up there, we were supposed to start. Then we had amp problems so the sound guy really wasn’t happy. But we made due with the time we had. Actually was a kick ass show.
I really want to see someone attempt to top Rob Scallon
yeah...His name is Rob Scallon
Glenn is doing it ALL THE TIME....
Yeah, occasionally this one guy does, his channel is called RobScallon2
I thought that was his girlfriend's job
@@jonathanwolverton705 Nice lol
My band has gotten into the habit of helping other bands because we’re a plug and play pop punk band and our set up takes at most 5 minutes
Well done dude, what goes around comes around, I hope you find all the success you are hoping for!
Jerome sounds like a good band. Best wishes!
All bands should be a 5 minute setup & tear down. If you need more time, you got too much equipment. All cables and pedals should be set up on the side of the stage while others are playing. You should roll on, grab your instrument and plug in... Thats it!
We’re production as well as a band, so we help out all time. Truth is many bands don’t have as much experience others. So it’s important to work together and teach whenever possible. Most people get into music out of love and passion, not thinking about professionalism or mutual respect. Professionalism needs to shown and taught. The music scene is tight after twenty years in my area after professionalism and respect. There’s unfortunately still drama and social media doesn’t help. However, shows are tight a very professional. I thank the older bands everyday who taught us.
Little know fact that during recording AJFA, Metallica decided to completely skip tracking the bass to save on time.
they did, but it's not on the record because Lars happened.
@@AndreiGrozea fun fact #2 lars was never actually in metallica, he just started wacking cans on stage and nobody had the heart to tell him to leave.
pretty much
yeah lars told the producer to turn the bass so low that it couldn't be heard and years later asked the producer we did have bass on that record right?
@@chetmustang8065 fun fact #3 the producer then replied with "lars how about you shut the fuck up and let me produce dumb ass, go wack your cans together or something" they then never worked with that producer again.
Musicians playing off each other helps so much with dynamics and feel. Guitar through some kind of amp simulation (I first did this in abot 2000 with a Zoom thing that attempted to simulate amps sounds - not great at all, but as a guide that doesn't get recorded sound didn't matter too much), bass directly into a mixer (keyboard could do that too) and this into the drummers headphone makes for a simple and great solution to get more dynamic tracks.
Better content than Rob Scallon? rofl - we're waiting!
You’re watching it
Lol
Sounds like this guy must be the justin beiber of youtube.
as a bass player I have to say I am so glad I learned Bass before guitar since it gave me more appreciation for the instrument. Also Thank you Glen for giving the advice to mute the other strings, now I sound less terrible than before.
I played a large variety of instruments and got to bass last. At first I was very frustrated with what I perceived as huge limitations in what you can play . Then very slowly I saw how you steer and mold chords others are playing not be the solo instrument. Its also good to embrace if you will the semimonocrhomeatic word of basseyness
Hey Glenn. As long as you have something to teach on the day's subject, I will watch as long as it takes. You're an engaging teacher.
Longer episodes: YES PLEASE.
Watching these kinds of videos makes me wanna proud of plug and play culture we have.
Some bars provides amp and drums (maybe it was rented by the production crew where the sales of the entrance fee/tickets went), same with battle of the band in schools, while in fiestas, the local government would provide stage, lights and sounds, including amps and drums.the crowd doesnt care about your tone (like you said on previous videos).
Bringing amps and drums would be optional but not highly recommended because there's a LOT of bands right after you play.
Headphone mixing solution:
1. Take headphones off
2. Place headphones down
3. Plug in and turn on monitors
Glen I learnt that if you put the sans amp through the effects loop on an amp, it creates a much nicer heavier tone. It also means that it is effected by the tone of the amp before distortion, unlike running it in as a pedal. If you haven't tried that before I recommend that you do. And that goes for anyone who reads this 👍
There's also another annoying habit that live drummers do, that's the opposite of taking too long... BEING TOO EAGER TO GET THEIR STUFF ON THE STAGE! Seriously, I've played small shows where I've literally just got up from my throne after playing the final song, and the next drummer is already bringing his gear on stage and buzzing around me before I've had a chance to put my sticks down!
"Hey fucko... This isn't some giant music festival with a massive roster of bands, we've got a grace period of about 10-15 mins to get our shit off the stage. I know you're excited to play and show off your chops but wait your fucking turn!"
Came here to say similar. 30 seconds is not long enough for anyone to tear down, don't be the guy holding your gear at the front of the stage because the band before you has announced they're playing their last song. You know what makes tear down take twice as long...some cunt crouched on a tiny stage setting up his ax8 while I'm trying to move my cab off stage. Gimme 4 mins and I'll be gone, get in my space and it takes longer.
Hey Glenn! I love your videos! Involving your viewers with polls is always great. One little improvement proposal: Add the option "both", i.e. I am mixing mainly by using monitors, but also checking the mix with headphones. Same for the current poll: I do like both your short and long episodes. Love and Kackapopo from Germany!
Hey Glenn! I personally like the longer episodes! Keep up the good work! Cheers from Hungary, and of course FU! :)
You’re right about the bass player thing, I’ve been playing bass for 22 years now and always had gigs, lived in three countries and got gigs immediately in all of them.
Take it as seriously as a job and it could be your job.
Yep!
$50,000 audio chain for voice over work. Nice!
Hey Glenn, you hit it right on bands getting off the stage. I would like to add, stay off the stage till the band ahead of you is done. I witnessed a member of a band wheeling Marshall Stacks (yes more than one trip) across the front of the stage while the lead singer of the performing act had to move to the drum riser each time. It was from the beginning through the middle of their set. It was a large gig for our area and should not have happened. Our band is friends with the performing act and all respect to them for being professional and holding it together for a great set. Just a reminder, ethics and respect for each other goes a long way. There's plenty of room and time for all of us. Thanks Glenn, keep up the great work.
I miss the times when a band went into the studio and tracked all instruments live and at once. Like Deep Purple did with "Lazy". What a great feeling it gives to a song, just like a live experience, but in a controlled environment with the best possible sound. It creates the most suspense in a listener just waiting to get fed with sound. Or laying down a demo, so your drummer and bassist can play along while tracking their parts. Like an invaluable snapshot of art frozen in time, a true piece of musical history.
ruclips.net/video/IrOidGgbVio/видео.html&list=PL74F323E48CB1ABFC&index=469
It takes a lot of work. When Bob Marley was tracking one of his albums [apologies, as the name escapes me], he had 40 musicians to record, but only 8 tracks. As a result, they rehearsed 8 hours per day every day for a full month.
In the most extreme example of this that I have ever witnessed is when The Kepler Quartet worked on music by Ben Johnston. They spent 10 years rehearsing, and 4 years recording 1,999 takes before they got the performance they needed: ruclips.net/video/ylQQQ04jLDA/видео.html
The results are haunting: ruclips.net/video/Wp7VjBtOJ74/видео.html
The thing I miss, related to this, is when a band had something to say in their creations and put in the time it took to deliver it. Taking that time and putting in the work meant that they could track everything at once. Now, it's just record it really fast, fix it in Pro Tools, and get it out there. It's really meaningless.
@@DrumWild That is what I would call true artistry, not being satisfied with mediocre stuff, but taking it to the extreme. Look what it takes a girl to become a prima ballerina, wasting her whole life and health to become the best of the best for a few years while it lasts. Van Gogh drank tons of absinthe till he cut his own ear of with a razor, but look at those paintings. No one else could have done this. Or Lemmy, he lived what he put into his music. That Keppler Quartett isn't really my thing, but I can appreciate their hard work. At the moment I am trying to get halfway decent again at classical guitar and I can tell you it hurts, but there is no real art without pain. I can tell from experience at the moment a piece gets played absolute exact with all feeling, dynamics and tempi spot on, it feels like you have won the world, climbed mount everest and the sound becomes part of you, all at once. Those autotune-timealign- guys will never know how this feels like.
Yeah. They had to actually know how to play their material . . . with the group. What a concept.
Steven Wilson's The Raven That Refused To Sing. Tracked live and sounds absolutely amazing.
@@samuliauno8163 not my style, but indeed very beautiful and almost no difference from studio to a live on stage recording. They must have a pretty skilled engineer too.
I think the longer episodes are cool. I just enjoy watching because Glenn is a cool knowledgeable guy & he talks about music which is my passion. I could watch these videos for months!
I admit, I do a LOT of my mixing with headphones, but I do A/B with the monitors as well
One of my old drummers had all his toms and cymbal & hi-hat stands clamped to his 2 kick drums and also one floor tom sat on its own. So when he got to the club, he put on his cymbals, mounted his snare and opened his throne. Basically 2 band members carried the kicks, one carried the throne and he carried the snare & stand & floor tom... BAM he was set up. After the gig, we each grabbed something in one trip and he was off the stage. He even traveled to the gigs with his toms hooked up so all he had to do was put out his cymbals. He was the only drummer I knew that was so efficient. Today he plays a 4 piece kit with a few cymbals.
You ever notice the better the drummer, the fewer the drums he needs???
Oh man, I love when people talk that good shit, popping off like they're better than the RUclips musicians who made a career out of how talented they are. I get it if you don't like them - I don't like most of them either, but never in a million years would I act like I'm better.
Like the longer vidz - *NOTE* - the extra video shots from subs and/or musicians (Jen) make this work. Keep it up!
Regarding the length of videos, just don't do every episode 30 plus minutes. I like being able to watch a ten min video during breaks at work, etc. A good mix of short and long would be my vote if it was an option.
That last comment. I am living the guitarist-turned-bassist life. Glen, you are absolutely right. Everyone wants to be a guitarist, and most bands bassists are the 'failed' guitarist or the person who never wants to practice. Transferring your guitar techniques, skills and knowledge to the bass is dumb-ass simple, and then suddenly you aren't competing with the millions of other guitarists. Another plus is that you can write songs for guitar and actually contribute musically to the band in that regard as well.
The world does need more great bassists, but being a multi-instrumentalist foremost will be way more beneficial in the long run. It makes you more versatile, and therefore more in demand.
Here is another thing every aspiring and even gigging guitarist and bassist should do. Learn the basics of drums to get a better comprehension of rhythm, timing and understanding of how to get all your band's instruments working together.
Why is it that most Pre 2000’s albums have such a “raw” sound and most modern records sound so crisp or cleaned up?? For example, all of morbid angels albums sound “old school” and their latest record sounds so cleaned up. I’m not saying it’s a bad thing, but would it be possible to get that old school sound with newer recording technology?? Also I love the long episodes!! Keep them coming please!
I believe you're describing the difference between actually micing real amps and instruments compared to sound replacement and amp simulators. Yes, the later makes the recordings clean and sound "perfect," but it loses that raw character. I personally miss that and feel like modern music in general has become dull and lifeless as a result.
It's click tracks. At some point the professional standard became playing to click tracks even though no great album was ever recorded to a click track.
Because they didn't use Pro Tools prior to early 2000s ;)
@@flacidhouse350 that's so wrong. Tons of old records are tracked to click tracks, because the musicians were professionals.. It's fixing everything that ruins it, which isn't even what this guy is talking about.
These people seem to have misunderstood the question completely - so, as someone who thinks they know what your question is about, and someone making actual death metal, I'll give it a shot.
First we have to remember that these albums were made in times where this was sort of new. 80's - 90's death metal was still pretty much a small fringe thing that had a cult following, but not much money backing it. People just didn't know what they wanted or how to make it work in a mix. It's not 'ideal' from a clarity standpoint, and that's something we today have the ability to study a lot more closely, and people that know how to doesn't have to work under major labels.
There are a number of factors playing into what makes the older records sound the way they do, and it's far from just 'perfection' in timing, sample replacement and real amps. (I can't remember which was the last Cannibal Corpse album without the drums being tracked to a click, but it's one in the last 3 or 4 albums. They've been sparse on the sample replacement, and they've always used real amps. Still sounds 'new school'.)
So what actually does make the old school records sound old?
Well, first and foremost - less compression across the drums and bass leading to less 'impact' but a more organic 'boom', far less snappy bass tones, scooped guitar tones that were all over the place and therefore had to be severely tamed in the mix, and yet again less compression on the vocals. In the final mixing stages there was less high end preserved, and a lot of bottom scooped out because it simply wasn't as tight as it's possible to get it today. Add the influence of the loudness war and all the ear blasting, crispy ass compression it brought with it, and you can see quite a clear direction this was heading. So it's partially an experience thing (remember, sound engineers throughout time has spent a lot of focus on clarity, not the subjective 'sounds good', since we have to begin with hearing the instruments) and partially a physical limitation thing. Outboard gear for thousands upon thousands? For a death metal record from a band people had barely heard of?
It's just that sample replacement, time alignment, amp sims and 'perfection' is the frontier of this cleanliness-movement, not the reason for it.
You can absolutely get 'the sound' (a part from writing and playing as well as Morbid Angel) with modern gear, just don't overproduce, spare the compressors as much as possible, add a bit of reverb to your drums and you're in business.
TL;DR: Modern mixes are more balanced, the instruments fight less for frequency slots, use far more compression and have more focus on tight bass. Throw those things out the window and you're good to go for early 90's death metal.
On our last few EPs we recorded using a sort of hybrid method, recording the drums, bass and rhythm guitar together live, but using direct-in for the bass and guitar so there is no bleed over into the drum mics (we don't yet have any booths or iso cabs, it's all DIY in a basement). This lets us feel what everyone is doing and actually play TOGETHER! We even have the singer mime the words along with us for total band interaction. Then the bass is processed in the box with a touch of EQ and a little amp sim, and the rhythm guitar is just flat out replaced with a tube head mic'd through a 4x12 cab. Then we do the vocals, lead guitars, any overdubs or punch-ins, etc.
Also, Jet City amps are fucking awesome!
Longer episodes feel more personable even though you fit more people in an episode contradictory to me saying a longer video feels more personable
When gigging with my old band, we always offered our drum kit as a back line, which most other drummers loved, though some prefered their own cymbals. We would also offer speaker cabs which makes it easy.
When recording and mixing, we used both headphones and monitors so we had an idea what each platform could expect.
Also, yes, more long episodes.
The guitarist for Evanescence watches you?? That's awesome! \m/
I like the longer format, more content for us, more questions, answered. If its no added strain to you, sounds like a perfect win win to me.
OK, I don't mind half an hour long videos, but I guess it depends on the content. I wouldn't mind an hour long lesson, but spending an hour on viewers comments is not my thing.
Also, musician texts? Where are they?
thanks for talking about Rocksmith Glenn . I've been using it for 5 years, started in my late 50's . Had been a lifelong desire to play rock guitar and solo's , took lessons and tried tab and slow down proggies, but nothing worked until Rocksmith .
its never too late if you are willing to work at it . love from sunny NE On where its -35C this morning .
Rocksmith is awesome but be careful to also practice on your own with an amp. Rocksmith is great at hiding flaws when you play along with the songs.
CDLC all the way!!
*get good at bass, by NOT playing it like a guitar you don't have to play chords on.
Believe me, good bassists can tell when a life long guitar player decides he's going to be a "bass God" but is actually a very bland player.
love the long episodes, nice to come home after work and eat dinner infront of the latest video and just relax
Big fan of your show for a long time, and I've laughed at the woes of bass players thinking that'll never happen to me. Well fuck me, I joined a band a few weeks ago and our bassist is haaard work! He can't jam, he literally doesn't seem to know any songs, not even classics. I like to warm up with a jam, then go over stuff we did last time, then new stuff, but we just don't get anywhere and there's no chemistry! Arrgh fuck fuck fuckity fuck!
Might sound crazy... but make him "lead" or start the jam, he'll either fight his way through and come up with "something" even if its a chromatic atonal mess, or flee never to be seen again. Tell him its all up to him, theres no wrong notes, just make noise.... If he tries, it builds his confidence and he discovers the joy of the jam, and you get to expand your horizons trying to play along to his nonsense. You might stumble yourself into something pretty cool.
@@lthorsemanship8150 Hey man you never know. Good idea though. I admire your optimism.
@@ClarkyGuitar its all about loving music dude. Fun comes first, if he starts having fun and really enjoying himself he will by nature try harder.
@@lthorsemanship8150 Yeah man I hear you. You've got to enjoy it first, hopefully he can enjoy it more next time and loosen up a bit.
Make the episode as long as possible. My wife and I really enjoyed sitting down and watching the longer episode.
Bass first then vocals, skip the drums ,keyboards, clarinet , trumpet, spoons then you track the guitars, all about the technique
Yes for recording a band playing together! Such a positive difference
Opens video with the hottest and damn talented woman in rock/metal; can't press 'Like' button fast enough!!! Jen = Win, Glenn you rock.
Lots of bands I’ve played with just share their drum set. Then we add whatever we need to the set. Saves so much time. May be different in Metal, but for rock shows, I recommend it.
"Easily one of the best music channels on youtube!" Yeah, and that ain't saying much....
You don't know much about music channels on RUclips.
@@flacidhouse350 More like he doesn't know much about anything.
2:55 When Glenn turns red you know shit is about to get real, love the vid!
67% - headphones
32% - monitors
Where did the 1% disappear? xd
The Angels share in whiskey production
Maybe the results were mixed on headphones.
@@tomotoole3898 nice one
I have mixed a hasty demo without bothering to plug in headphones. I just looked at the bars got them to where I thought they would be audible and burned it.
It's common rounding 'error', or more like a common decision to round percentages down.
Longer episodes are awesome man! Love your channel and content!
I'd rather see two short videos. I don't often have time for a full half hour so will only listen to a portion of a longer broadcast.
yeah, that would work too!
Here is how we have done the recording of the last EP of my band :
We track first time all together, with the less try as possible, except vocals and solos, Then if we are satisfied, we just add missing tracks, track by track (guitar solo, then vocals), else we start again.
But all bass and guitars are on D.I, and reamped after to get clean tracks and be able to finish amp settings.
Yep, that works well too!
Hey dude! Just noticed that black chair in the background. My plastic injection molding factory i work for makes those chair backs! Pretty cool to see something i help make end up on a channel i love!
Hell yeah, SMG VC is one of the best things to happen on a friday, aside from the knowledge that I don't have to get up at 5 in the morning tomorrow!
30 min. videos? I'm all for it!
I seen a video where a guy made acoustic panels with just wood for the frames and towels bunched together inside them. He even shot them out against actual acoustic panels using a pitch meter and showed the differences between each in their respective wave files on his daw. And the towel panels actually absorbed more sound than the “real” acoustic panels.
Now imagine, making some of those panels and constructing stands for them that were like that of say the stand of a full length mirror that people use to view themselves in certain outfits. Boom, instant moveable acoustic treatment that doesn’t take up too much space.
You could even mount castors on them and wheel them out of the way if you want.
Cheap, non permanent solution for acoustic treatment if you think outside the box just a little. Even Glenn once mentioned opening a wardrobe door and using that as a giant bass trap.
Will it be perfect room treatment?, probably not. Will it better than what you’re running now?, well my answer to that is not only yes but also what the fuck have you got to lose? Instead of focusing on things you can’t do, try focusing on things you can.
At least you’ll move forward and lastly...
Fuck you Glenn.
JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THIS JOB IS A LOT HARDER THAN WHAT PEOPLE THINK. I HAVE MAD RESPECT FOR THIS GUY. IT TAKES THE PATIENCE OF A SAINT TO SIT THERE FOR HOURS UPON HOURS. REMEMBER, IF YOU ARE PLAYING LIVE, DON'T PISS OFF THE GUY RUNNING THE SOUND!!!!!! THEY ARE JUST AS IMPORTANT THAN THE BAND.
I LIKE the longer episodes. More content, more tips, more laughs. What’s not to like? It’s a great, great show.
Hi Glenn, on the topic of getting equipment offstage quickly, my new band played our first club gig a few Saturdays ago and being the "new band on the block" we definitely wanted to make sure we had our stuff out as quickly as possible so the next band could set up. We knew from the beginning how important that was. Also, this is one of my favorite channels on RUclips and you are definitely one of my favorite personalities and I would love to meet you one day, that being said, would you ever do a meet and greet tour or a guitar center clinic tour? Thanks and Cheers!
longer episodes would not bother me in the least....love your channel man....
Some 20 years ago,we were opening for a big local band and their guitarist insisted on getting the "perfect" sound on their drums with triggers and all,eating up all the available time for the souncheck.
My guys were ready to kick their butts and leave,but I convinced them to get on stage and show them how a band performs live,while a friend of ours would tell us on the fly what we needed to tweak.
With our anger and all,we gave a hell of a performance and then it was their turn....
On their first song,our fans left and by the end of their third song,their fans left too!
They didn't get to play a fourth song...they packed their stuff and stormed off the club!
People,good sound is only the icing on the cake!
I agree with you Glenn 100% about recording bands live in the studio. There is no substitute for the effect of musicians playing off of each other for sure. That's the way it was done in the good old days of rock and metal and that is how to keep it fresh and original and well...good!
My guess is that you have a wide base using headphones because the channel really has some great info and tips for beginners and common folk. We live in small apartments with neighbours and suffer from chronic money defecit and so on... Cheers! and keep up the good work, looking forward to the headphone shootout / video because my girlfriend likes to sleep at night while I play on the computer and hassle with the tracks.
here in switzerland it's usual for drummers to share the drum kit for the entire show, everyone brings just their cymbals, snares and kick pedals. works hella good
Definitely liking the longer videos Glenn!
For the mixing on headphones problem, what i like to do to use my time most efficiently is after recording, I will pretty much mix the entire thing on headphones to get all the annoying little things that don't make a difference what you mix on out of the way (like track blending and splicing, general volume leveling, panning, and so on) then I go back with monitors where I can really fine tune everything. The hard work is out of the way so I can use my time with the monitors to make the small adjustments that DO make a difference. I do this because I am in a dorm room and have specific quiet hours. So I can work all night doing the little things and fine tune it during the day. Hope this is helpful to everyone!
Using a label maker, I put my name on every single piece of gear I have. From mics to cables to amp power cords to cymbal stands and kick pedals - it's branded as MINE. I have a sweet practice space/studio (treated for sound, Rockwool in the walls etc) and people bring shit cables and try to leave with mine - FuCK Y**!
Long episodes are awesome thanks bud
Back in the early 2000's, I had an overweight bi-polar drummer who took forever to set up and break down his drums because he was on meds and moved really slowly - we always had to help him. And then there are the drummers who wander off and start socializing after you're done with your set, and just leave their drum set sitting on stage. This is why some rock clubs in LA and other major cities have back lines with amps and a drum set.
Best thing I saw for getting in and out of the way was in Andernach. Back of the stage was a huge roller door with a truck waiting behind it. Just opened the back of the stage, shoved everything on there ready to go and did the same in reverse when they were done. Took about 5 minutes each.
Im lovin the longer episodes and the viewer video questions. Keep 'em coming. Thanks man.
I've been really pleased with the Sonarworks software for monitors but especially on headphones!
Yeah, everyone's talking about sonarworks. I shoud try it too :D
Can confirm that the Jet City heads are excellent products for the price. I have a 100HDM that took a 5ft fall onto concrete, cracking the headshell and never missed a beat.
That snare sound in the intro though
I couldn't get Rod Scallons Rain out of my head
My very first show, we opened for Exodus. We had to share the stage with the gear belonging to the band after us (either Goatwhore or Warbringer) because they wanted to have their stuff set up and ready to use.
I don't know if I already commented on this, and who has time to go through 933 comments? Anyway . . .
During a sound check in Dallas at a club known as The Video Bar, we ran through a few tunes, were satisfied with the sound, and went to grab a bite to eat.
Then the opening act came and set their equipment up, and did the same. Their sound reminded me of 1967 Blue Cheer - nice, but fucking loud! Since they were in fact the opening act, all of their equipment remained on the stage, as did all of the board settings.
It's showtime - the opening band went up, did their little 1967 Blue Cheer thing, and then took their stuff off of the stage. Now you might assume that as soon as they were gone, the mixer reset everything to our sound check levels in preparation for our show, and if you did, you assumed wrong.
We got the benefit of the Blue Cheer settings, and oh, what a (non)fun time we had! There was a point in one of our songs where everyone stopped playing, waiting for me to cue them in with my vocal. However, there was a nasty feedback drone coming from one of the microphones, and when I looked over at the sound board, no one was there. Where was the mixer? Over at the bar getting a drink.
There were two giant monitors around the club capturing the goings-on; I noticed that one camera was focused on me as I waited for the noise to go away. Now, I could've gotten really loud, screaming "HEY ASSHOLE! GET BACK THERE AND DO YOUR FUCKING JOB!" But I didn't do that because (1) that's not a good way to win friends and influence people, and (2) the camera shot of me looking around, making faces, rolling my eyes, etc. got me a helluva lot more mileage with the audience!
In all fairness, the opening Blue Cheer group were excellent with the speed in which they moved their gear off the stage, and I'll go even further. I liked Blue Cheer in the '60s - they did a good job of capturing that feel and applying it to their own material. I only wish the mixer had acted as quickly. But I DID manage to capture that moment on tape for posterity.
So, does the world of rock and roll still sound attractive to you aspiring players? If so, be mindful of the fact that this was one of the "fun" moments. Your results may vary.
The Smith Street band made an album called 'more scared of you than you are of me' where they recorded each song as a band and not just separate instruments.
i mix on an old pair of earbuds that actually have really decent quality. I still don't trust them too much though. Best method I've ever found was using reference mixes, and then listening through as many different devices as possible (some kind of monitors, TV, laptop speakers, phone speaker, in the car, anything and everything) then go back to the headphones. Then take a few hours or day or so to let my ears rest, and go back and do it again.
Yeah, but you're still very likely to mess up low end that way. Talking from my own experience :)
@@daleonov thats true, also speaking from personal experience 😂 thats part of the reason i got my bands last album mastered by somebody in a professional studio
@@MartyAllocco yep
Mr Fricker, do you normalize/level the audio in your videos to some broadcast standard? The audio between various takes differs so much, the intro is louder than your voice, and I need to fiddle with volume knob all the time... (despite using FxSound compressor in Windows)
I'm 36 and I'm learning to paint. Guess how many times I've heard that I'm too old and it's too late to start. Do not give a crap what people say about what you love to do. Be consistent, put in the work and be realistic about your goals but go for whatever your dream is (unless it's kicking puppies in the face, if that is your dream I will personally destroy you).
Started guitar (for the 2nd or 3rd time) at 51 y.o. My mom started painting at 76.
I'm glad none of you are kicking puppies in the face :P
I like the longer vc format, though what I would really like to see is some long form instructional and tutorial videos I think that would be cool
The best way to mix on headphones is with less than hard panned left and right. It is called Crossfeed. It mimics the bleed of spaced stereo speakers into each ear. Check it out. There are headphone amps that have variable crossfeed. Best way to get your mix to translate from phones to speakers.
I have been in and out of my band for 7 and half years. I am getting to be the old dude now (36). I am almost retired from the Navy and have been the core songwriter. My question for you is “Since the average age of touring Artists is in their Mid thirties, is it too late for a little Grey in the beard to debut?”. Thanks for all the great mentoring you do!
Jason I Am 55 . I was Air Force and quit music about 5 years after your age . In what sounds like very familiar riff , sold my gear and walked away. I now wish to return to music . Do love music ? Is it an itch you must scratch? Because for people who really play their is no end . Just remember the odds of recognition are low let alone money. I gravitate toward this channel because Greatness is possible. I believe we have the chance to achieve what was done in the past and greater . Stop using technology to cheat and edit out the human experience and enhance music.
With the band I'm in, we're laying down a live follow track. We play to a take of us all playing to lay our individual tracks down. It's working well so far.
We headlined at a rock festival a couple of years ago. The preceeding band took a lifetime to get their shit off the stage! Didn't help that I was pretty sick and nearly pulled out of the gig. My patience was pushed to the max and that little snippet you just gave would have been better than me kicking asses off the stage!
I use JBL monitors for mixing, but my sennheiser pro hd280 headphones are decent when needed and cheap. Love the long videos. I've been going back and rewatching episodes from the beginning. So much fun and knowledge, thank you. Thanks for the kickass IRs. I got the metal mix special also from your email, I have been wanting that and the price was great. Thank you so much!!
The tape solution for cable separation is a great idea. I usually use something obnoxious/uncool like hot pink or orange. Similar to spray painting your tools. No one wants to be seen w/ a flo. pink wrench.
Might be a good tip for the beginners among us. I put my acoustic treatment on relatively thick figured wallpaper, therefore if I ever decide to move out of my dad's appartement I can just cut the spots I glued to the wallpaper off, throw the wallpaper away and hang it on new wallpaper in my new place.
Keep the longer episodes coming man!
Rocksmith is great! Learn songs with the exact('ish) tones from the album or just play along with songs you know already.
Unlock different pedals/amps/cabs to play around with to make your own tones. I recommend getting the original '13 version with the cable on amazon for like $10. Then get the '14 version on a Steam sale.
'14 has a "Session Mode" that lets you set up backing drums(and base, rhythm guitar) with different styles. Set your key and speed and just play. Even just the drums are fun to play with, they know when to throw in some double-bass goodness. There's a "Riff Repeater" too. Mark out a riff you want to learn, it'll start slow and pick up the pace once it hears you playing the right notes well enough.
+1 Vote for longer format too. Cheers all.