REFINE TECHNIQUE PART 2: THE SECRET METHOD

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  • Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
  • This is not your ordinary refine guide! WARNING! Do not skip small details! Make sure to refine alone otherwise the pattern will be broken or worst case you will be their sacrifice! Lastly, practice first and do not forget to do stress test! Good luck and please subscribe for next tips!!!
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    • One Punch Man S2 Ep.12...
    by PokéMixr92

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  • @Komediaaaa
    @Komediaaaa 4 года назад +4

    SOBRANG SALAMAT SIR. Dahil sa tutorial na to naka pag +8rosa +10rosa +12str ring ako. 5m lang pinuhunan ko. Salamat paps more power

    • @redepicgames
      @redepicgames  4 года назад

      Hi sir , if patterns are messed up, just stop when you got 2 consecutive fails. 😁 And just continue some other days

    • @jayrickadarne4323
      @jayrickadarne4323 4 года назад

      @@redepicgames is the sacrifice equip should be the same of the one you are going to upgrade?or any other equips?

    • @redepicgames
      @redepicgames  4 года назад

      @@jayrickadarne4323 any. You may check chaddyman.tv, we almost have the same refine method but it's not 100% effective. The difference between is is that i immediately stop my refine whenever i got 2 consecutive fails 🤣

  • @redepicgames
    @redepicgames  4 года назад +10

    Haste is waste! Practice first! Use my farming methods in case you fail for quick recovery😁 if you have questions, just comment here and i will answer as soon as im available. do not refine if you are still unsure of the methods!

    • @skuntultegang3659
      @skuntultegang3659 4 года назад +2

      Oh see now i Will praticing

    • @johnsnow459
      @johnsnow459 4 года назад

      Does this also apply to +10 to +15?

    • @flintelvinedvart9969
      @flintelvinedvart9969 4 года назад +1

      Please asnwer my question.
      If the pattern are: sssfff sssfff. The 3F can we switch it to bag full mode, or we must refine then broke it? Im still noob sir. Thank you.

    • @redepicgames
      @redepicgames  4 года назад +1

      @@johnsnow459 yes, i've done it with my slave account but never tried in my main because im already contented with my items and my priority is my journal

    • @bewareofcatplays2611
      @bewareofcatplays2611 4 года назад

      what is the pattern for today sir

  • @lifdrasir3
    @lifdrasir3 4 года назад +2

    Thanks a lot! I first practiced with a cheap item, a crossbow. I managed to find the pattern (3F2S), that repeated 8 times after 10 minutes of trying.
    I continued slowly after +6, with the bag full, then I waited until I heard the AH 3 times (well 4 to be sure I didn't hit the hidden fail) after every successful refine. And gotcha! +10 crossbow
    Patience is the key

    • @redepicgames
      @redepicgames  4 года назад +1

      Other player got +10 niles and sniping suit yesterday as well

  • @jimskam
    @jimskam 4 года назад +4

    A developer, getting paid, was assigned a task on a project delivery schedule
    Task: Design refine randomizer
    Requirements:
    Ten different patterns, which will be randomized each day, system-wide, and applied to every different weapon randomly.
    Needs a table of all the possibilities
    Needs a script to run during the new day cycle to randomize the possibility for every item that can be refined
    In version 2, they upgraded that process, and now, if there is no value for the day, THEN is runs a randomizer process to select an option from the table, for that item.
    Yeah, that sounds like what someone was planning

  • @Panda62889
    @Panda62889 4 года назад +1

    Watched the entire video, I understand some and don't understand the others but hard to explain why I didn't understand it... Overall i learned some and decided to just wait for that 3 consecutive fail before refining main item... Thanks for this video

  • @kokokrunch9296
    @kokokrunch9296 4 года назад +6

    thank u very much! really helped me alot, from +4 broken, hello to +10 & 15 equips.. Patience and stable internet is really the key! cheers! lol

    • @psinka1292
      @psinka1292 4 года назад

      how long did it take you to find a pattern? how long were you listening?

  • @geletaba6791
    @geletaba6791 3 года назад

    this is my first time used your technique (analysis). im tried in weapon gakkung need 4m and break some item lol and finally reach +10. but im catched some important info. thanks man, still work till now. im appreciated it.

  • @baphometanark8059
    @baphometanark8059 4 года назад +6

    Thats a very, VERY game changer information!
    You REALLY have to be patient and get it right.
    The part that you do it without cut, its the most important part of the video, but you need to get the basics first so you can understand by yourself when you watch that part.
    I'm gonna try it in this week, still farming oridecon. I'm saving 4 +8 Malang bow to try and make one +10, but I may try to make them all +10 using this method, gonna tell you guys latter...

    • @redepicgames
      @redepicgames  4 года назад

      Take note that if the your pattern has randomness, stop right away 🤣

    • @blackwivern7860
      @blackwivern7860 4 года назад

      @@redepicgames then try with other equip? or on the next day?

    • @redepicgames
      @redepicgames  4 года назад +1

      @@blackwivern7860 if you have zeny, try other. If same item, tom. Btw, tom is maint dunno if there are changes

    • @dustin3886
      @dustin3886 4 года назад +1

      So how did it go? get your +10 items. I am extremely skeptical of this method (or lack of one).

    • @baphometanark8059
      @baphometanark8059 4 года назад

      Dustin haha, I tried with 2 bows, one is now +6 and the other broken +6, after that I stopped.
      They dont even sell. 😔

  • @goat6596
    @goat6596 4 года назад +2

    Cost me about 23m to understand this on my first +10 by following this method. its not even patched and the success in a row feeling is awesome man thankyou so much lolololol

    • @redepicgames
      @redepicgames  4 года назад

      Yeah, a famous streamer in ph posted his +15 finger using full bag method also just few days ago

  • @uchihasenjuu
    @uchihasenjuu 4 года назад +2

    Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! I got my first +15 weapon following your guide. God bless you!

    • @psinka1292
      @psinka1292 4 года назад

      how long did it take you to find a pattern? how long were you listening?

    • @uchihasenjuu
      @uchihasenjuu 4 года назад +1

      @@psinka1292 I spent about 10 minutes to get the string of fails and successes with a full bag before proceeding. Like what was suggested in the video, patience is the key. The longer you spent listening and recording the fails and successes, the more repeating patterns you will be able to see, which will give you more confidence on when to start refining for real.

    • @uchihasenjuu
      @uchihasenjuu 4 года назад

      Cầu Trù Mr I did not stress test as I only have 1 synth weapon.

  • @redepicgames
    @redepicgames  4 года назад +11

    Can't reply to all of you guys! So I made faqs😁: ruclips.net/video/bjTUKt1x2b0/видео.html
    just remember 2 consecutive fails u need to stop because in the pattern we only have 1 hidden fail, good luck! 😎

    • @strongwally
      @strongwally 4 года назад

      the full bag method does not work, the NPC does not make sound of success or fail anymore

    • @muleelum1466
      @muleelum1466 4 года назад

      @@strongwally Same. The blacksmith makes no sound.

    • @darryldinate
      @darryldinate 4 года назад

      chg language to japanese

    • @erwinwina8484
      @erwinwina8484 4 года назад

      Hey bro. Do we always need to put the hidden fail in another item? Or we can just continue the same item with full bag method?

    • @redepicgames
      @redepicgames  4 года назад

      @@erwinwina8484 u nid to

  • @johnjaydiaz2722
    @johnjaydiaz2722 4 года назад +1

    Salamat for this video tol. It gave me confidence on refining. I now have my first ever +15 gear(windcape) +12 grandma shoes and +10 military mask. Salamat talaga sa pagshare

    • @chrisarexequielzacharycast7351
      @chrisarexequielzacharycast7351 4 года назад

      Sir can u mentor me i badly need this im just starting as a bard

    • @chrisarexequielzacharycast7351
      @chrisarexequielzacharycast7351 4 года назад

      I want to understand it

    • @johnjaydiaz2722
      @johnjaydiaz2722 4 года назад

      Kaya mo yan. Til now I kept rewatching this video to better understand it.

    • @tsukikay13
      @tsukikay13 4 года назад

      @@johnjaydiaz2722 any pattern boss we need to wait for 3ahh before pumalo?

    • @johnjaydiaz2722
      @johnjaydiaz2722 4 года назад

      @@tsukikay13 uu pero try mo muna for 5 to 10 minutes like the video said kase sometimes when it 3 ahhs 4th and 5th can fail. Just have a feel for it. It'll give you confidence to refine better than Yolo mode. I suggest keep rewatching this guide to fully understand it

  • @rythe5510
    @rythe5510 4 года назад +5

    Tried it. 1m spent for +12 ancient cape. Thanks!

  • @Dakuu220
    @Dakuu220 4 года назад +2

    I could not believe this so i tried it. Stupid me that it worked (global), +10 just spending 1.2m (without oridecons). Thank you.

  • @plonglagrito
    @plonglagrito 4 года назад +32

    yehey followed your pattern and now i quit playing :D

  • @AwesomeNorman
    @AwesomeNorman 4 года назад +4

    i hope devs dont change this up or fix bag full refining before i save up enough zeny to try this. Thanks for the video sir, much appreciated.

  • @bamsiqbal2819
    @bamsiqbal2819 4 года назад +6

    Made +12 c pump and +12 eod in a week. Thank bro. Greetings from indonesia

    • @BroZekmoba
      @BroZekmoba 4 года назад +1

      Hello, I followed all the steps of the 3 videos and found this sequence for 12 minutes. For me, it would be 3F2S the sequence that appears most, but it didn't work out. Every time I used the full backpack method and listened to 3 AHHH, I went to the item to refine and it went down, in addition to breaking a few times. Even items that passed the refining test broke when I chose the pattern.
      Do you write down the sequence and give ctrl +f to find the pattern? How do you do it? I followed all the right steps, but in the refining it was not working. I was trying to change the pattern and it still didn't work
      SSSFFSFSFSFFFSSFFSFSSSSFFFFFFFSSFFFSFSFFFSSSSFSFFFSSFSSSFSSSSSSFSSSFSSSSFSFFFSFFFFSSFSSSFFSSFFSFFFSSSFFFFFSFSSFFFSSSFFFFFFFFFSFFFSFSFSFFSFFFFFSFSSFSFFFFSFFFFFSFSSFFFFFSSFFSFFFSSFSFFFSSSSSSSFFSFSF

    • @pokemon002
      @pokemon002 4 года назад

      What class did you use during your refinemwnt

  • @jamesmanaloto4243
    @jamesmanaloto4243 4 года назад +2

    It works, this works than blindly yolo ups, you can see rhythm then time it when you think a specific sequence holds!

  • @dekxwan467
    @dekxwan467 4 года назад +7

    E: ready to quit -
    From +11 - +3 it really make me sad . I want to quit but . I got guild mate always give me advice . I got a lot of friends in R.O Midnight Family . Thanks for this trick. I'll try it soon . Hope this will be better

    • @redepicgames
      @redepicgames  4 года назад +1

      you should not continue if you fail like 2x, it means you got it wrong. and this is not actually recommended for high upgraded items for the reason that you do not know if your item passed the stress test. check my other vids for quick recovery of zeny =/

    • @jensenantero2763
      @jensenantero2763 4 года назад

      Dekx Wan sir can i have you ign in midnight its really a struggle to start again, though i gave an eternal char currently i just some friends with midnight and i wanted to join them o their journey.

    • @windrunner5860
      @windrunner5860 4 года назад

      yeah me too , +14HA become +3broke , :( with 11 streak fails
      im done man

    • @redepicgames
      @redepicgames  4 года назад

      @@windrunner5860 in the method, 2fails means wrong pattern. We only have 1h, 11-3 is yolo

  • @kenfajardo2767
    @kenfajardo2767 4 года назад +1

    Thanks to this Guide i got a +15 goib armor & +12 powerful Ring ,its the best refine techniques i ever try...

    • @shaldrinado3192
      @shaldrinado3192 4 года назад

      Wow congrats, now pls help me to refine my equip

    • @Unknown-wg2gj
      @Unknown-wg2gj 4 года назад

      Lol only 1 hour and u said u had understood and tried, r u kidding me?

    • @ronamador2800
      @ronamador2800 4 года назад

      Unknown maybe he’s not as dumb as you 😂

    • @Unknown-wg2gj
      @Unknown-wg2gj 4 года назад +3

      @@ronamador2800 and u r the real moron person because u believe the shit hahaha
      Do u think 1 hour is enough to learn + find the pattern? How stupid u r hahaha
      Now u can try how long to find 1 item pattern and waiting for loop pattern till +15..and he said he already gotten 2 items, do u think 1hour is enough to find many looping pattern to make +15 and +12? This is not about how to learn but how to find the pattern, idiot

  • @ragnagagosonline8448
    @ragnagagosonline8448 4 года назад +13

    Man, thanks for this infomative video. My niles bracelet[1] is now +10 from +5 broken. Hahaha #subscribed #werpaquiboloy

    • @psinka1292
      @psinka1292 4 года назад

      how long did it take you to find a pattern? how long were you listening?

  • @siyerwhin9
    @siyerwhin9 4 года назад +2

    Thank you so much for this guide! Though 2 broken croce. But, I was able to create my +15. Time to synthesize! Thanks again! More power to you!

    • @karmickoala101
      @karmickoala101 4 года назад

      You got it after maintenance?

    • @psinka1292
      @psinka1292 4 года назад

      how long did it take you to find a pattern? how long were you listening?

  • @TawanlimExTremeZFire
    @TawanlimExTremeZFire 4 года назад +5

    I wish that someone make facebook group for sharing the day's pattern.

  • @netduo8938
    @netduo8938 4 года назад +4

    There really is a pattern. Got lucky yesterday before watching this upgraded my brooch to +14 (got the straight 6S)!! Thanks for posting a table and the full bag glitch now I have a safe basis.
    Happy to see that your channel is growing. The OPM song really got me interested in your very first vid.

    • @redepicgames
      @redepicgames  4 года назад

      congrats! btw thanks for reminding me to link the background music! =)

    • @raynaldojepe893
      @raynaldojepe893 4 года назад

      So the 6S also works past +10 yah?

  • @dannyhima5120
    @dannyhima5120 4 года назад +3

    Thanks for the patern .. my equip now broken +3

  • @johnpaulalcoroque678
    @johnpaulalcoroque678 4 года назад +1

    Boss, thanks for this! it worked for me. I have +10 blueeve, Wind chaser & Adventure bag in one day! hahaha cheers!

    • @psinka1292
      @psinka1292 4 года назад

      how long did it take you to find a pattern? how long did you listen? what were the patterns like for example?

    • @johnpaulalcoroque678
      @johnpaulalcoroque678 4 года назад +1

      5-10 mins. of listening then tried looking for at least 3 same patterns or looked for a 4-5 consecutive fails then switch it to ur main item 90-95% chance it would be successful, (reason why it was not 100% because of the hidden fail, though most of the time it goes back 1 refine level) at least do it 1 refine at a time if u decided to look for consecutive fails.

  • @janeyeppuda3060
    @janeyeppuda3060 4 года назад +3

    I have to say this is really a good guide! Planning to quit then I saw this guide, gave me hope! Thank you, for that I am now your subscriber!

    • @Unknown-wg2gj
      @Unknown-wg2gj 4 года назад +3

      And then after u try and fail, i guarantee u will uninstall this game lol

    • @janeyeppuda3060
      @janeyeppuda3060 4 года назад

      Don't be trigger happy and just practice with some cheap equips, chill out man

    • @tomu7942
      @tomu7942 4 года назад

      What is you ign.. Im interested of that word yeppuda 😂

    • @janeyeppuda3060
      @janeyeppuda3060 4 года назад

      Don't even bother 😂

  • @rabbustamante3814
    @rabbustamante3814 4 года назад

    This is the only refine guide that made sense. Liked and subscribed.

  • @narrativeninja
    @narrativeninja 4 года назад +7

    how would u know when will the 3f2s starts if there are also 4f or 5f on the loop?

    • @freekear
      @freekear 4 года назад

      emman dela cruz its like playing black jack with card counting. Does not guarantee you a win but increase your chances of winning. And he tested for a long time to check the pattern.

  • @indrathomas7740
    @indrathomas7740 4 года назад +1

    I LITERALLY HAD THIS ON 1080P ON MY F*CKNG 55" SMARTTV
    FCKKKKNNNGGG AWESOME MAN! YOU EARNED A SUB

  • @6bladed9
    @6bladed9 4 года назад +3

    Didnt work for me... wasted my zeny and broke the gears... =(

  • @jevills555
    @jevills555 4 года назад +2

    Two +10 from this trick!! I didn't expect that at my first 3 fails haha

    • @kaintxu1
      @kaintxu1 4 года назад

      Could you give any aditional tips? Did you do the skip frame part? having trouble understanding that. The pattern bit is easy

  • @jandaryllmansilla571
    @jandaryllmansilla571 4 года назад +7

    can you clarify this please:
    stress test = refining an item to +6 straight without fail. If refine fails at +5 or +6, then item failed the test and should not be used for that day.
    - does this rule apply to all fresh copies of the same item, or it only applies to that item you refined?
    - the tights in your vid is +5, thought the stress test requires you to refine it till +6 first?
    - for items that failed the test, they will either start at broken/not broken +4 or +5 the following day. if I attempt to refine them to +6 and I end up successful, is that +6 item qualified for this trick? I only ask this because your vid recommends to use "clean" items.

    • @redepicgames
      @redepicgames  4 года назад +1

      1. It applies to all same item, better use that broken item for repair tomorrow 2.i have other tights in my alt that i use to stress test, that tights in the vid is what my multijob ws use for farming(it has tier) 3. It is recommended in the module to start clean. And just use the failed items for repair purposes

    • @TheTickyTickyTicky
      @TheTickyTickyTicky 4 года назад

      Can I do it without being BS and having a pet? How are those going to help with the patterns?

    • @redepicgames
      @redepicgames  4 года назад

      @@TheTickyTickyTicky yes u can do it. Ws and pet are just my fail safe just incase i got the wrong pattern

    • @dustin3886
      @dustin3886 4 года назад +1

      @@redepicgames You are misusing the term "Fail Safe". If you truly had a fail safe then you would never fail a refine or worry about getting the "wrong pattern". FYI - definition of Fail Safe: a system or plan that comes into operation in the event of something going wrong or that is there to prevent such an occurrence.

    • @redepicgames
      @redepicgames  4 года назад

      @@dustin3886 i am an engineer and our fail safe is not always 100% perfect. In our field, it is to cause minimal - to no harm, just to mitigate unsafe methods and to economize without sacrifing safety. 😁

  • @jordanpardede6868
    @jordanpardede6868 4 года назад +2

    Im so lucky that my ancient cape's pattern is the same with this video, i got my ancient cape from +0 to +10 just within 1 hour. Hope you will do refine with the other pattern as example bro, keep up the good work buddy cheers

    • @jordanpardede6868
      @jordanpardede6868 4 года назад

      As addition, how about +10 above, is it still the same method?

    • @redepicgames
      @redepicgames  4 года назад +1

      @@jordanpardede6868 yes, but i recommend just make many +8 9 and 10 then sell

  • @thetallysports9143
    @thetallysports9143 4 года назад +5

    Thanks bro i made it +10 Xbow for practice! The hardest thing is to find the pattern thought of 3f 2s 1hf but the the pattern was 4f 3s 1hs! 🙏👍 it work in romjp! 👍😂

    • @BVCOFFEE-vb7zx
      @BVCOFFEE-vb7zx 4 года назад

      How did you find your pattern?

    • @thetallysports9143
      @thetallysports9143 4 года назад

      @@BVCOFFEE-vb7zx Keep listening and repeating the pattern the most pattern occurs thats it.. would prefer the 3f2s 1h

  • @ridhoalzena1624
    @ridhoalzena1624 4 года назад

    You are the best bro, i love every single of the explanation, next guide us from 10 to 15 please !

  • @hansonperez4378
    @hansonperez4378 4 года назад +8

    What I learned from this video: AHH AHH OOH AHH OOH SSSFSFSFFSFSSFSFSFSFS

  • @dcaccount9729
    @dcaccount9729 4 года назад +1

    i got titan +15 from 10 to 15 with no break pattern was
    4F2S by this guide yesterday ty this f*king gooooooooooooooooood

    • @wrepaladin3974
      @wrepaladin3974 4 года назад

      Did you start a fresh gg to find the pattern? Or did you start finding the pattern on +10 gg?

    • @dcaccount9729
      @dcaccount9729 4 года назад

      @Red Epic Games how can i send my photo of using your guide to confirm success by your guide?

    • @dcaccount9729
      @dcaccount9729 4 года назад

      @@wrepaladin3974 start finding on main item +10

    • @wrepaladin3974
      @wrepaladin3974 4 года назад

      @@dcaccount9729 Did you use any sacrifice? Add me on discord please! Aznbeast#4078

    • @dcaccount9729
      @dcaccount9729 4 года назад

      @@wrepaladin3974 accept request

  • @denytjhin8908
    @denytjhin8908 4 года назад +8

    Thank you so much, 2 halberd +15 with your trick, you’re rock !!! Here take my likes

    • @overcreat771
      @overcreat771 4 года назад

      I only got +14 halberd

    • @denytjhin8908
      @denytjhin8908 4 года назад

      Over Creat my first one actually went from +7 to 13 at first with 6 straight and follow by 3 ahhh and 2 ohh pattern

  • @bellgrand
    @bellgrand 4 года назад +2

    A lot of this is just ritual. People have decompiled the code before.
    That being said, what could be happening is that they don't randomize the seed to the extent that you would normally see in a game, therefore, some patterns emerge as a result .

    • @juhaniu6371
      @juhaniu6371 4 года назад

      watched the whole thing and i was thinking the same.. it looks mostly like a massive collection of weird gamblers beliefs

  • @flintelvinedvart9969
    @flintelvinedvart9969 4 года назад +4

    please share us more about refining. especially about choose the right pattern

  • @jaycomarknavarro6617
    @jaycomarknavarro6617 4 года назад

    Thanks to you i got plus 15 shield without failed.. patience is the Key

    • @YukitoEiri
      @YukitoEiri 4 года назад

      Can you write to me how exactly did you refine?

    • @jaycomarknavarro6617
      @jaycomarknavarro6617 4 года назад

      @@YukitoEiri i do what in the video perfectly sir. all you have to do is patience. if there's no sign for pattern do next day until you can see the sign of pattern and if there is other players behind you don't refine because the pattern will be affected. every item is different pattern so focus on one item and analyse the pattern. i try to check my royal guard vs my whitesmith what is the different between the 2 character in terms of refining the whitesmith has chance of higher success rate rather than my royal guard but my whitesmith have buffs and it is refining mode stats not grinding mode stats. in short it is better to use whitesmith for refining to have higher success rate. that's my observation bro i'm not say that my observation is perfect. try to observe also bro using that method

    • @jaycomarknavarro6617
      @jaycomarknavarro6617 4 года назад

      yesterday bro i didn't see the sign of pattern but i tried even there's no sign of pattern and all my item was broken maybe the pattern was affected after the maintenance. i will try it again bro soon, hoping that i can make it using this method.

  • @dustinmondol2687
    @dustinmondol2687 4 года назад +3

    I get +10 sandstorm man I can't stop jumping in my room feels good man thank you very much.

    • @redepicgames
      @redepicgames  4 года назад +2

      Congrats

    • @deku4427
      @deku4427 4 года назад

      Does this trick still work?? Cuz i heard it has been fixed. I cant find the pattern too since more than 1 week

    • @BroZekmoba
      @BroZekmoba 4 года назад +1

      Hello, I followed all the steps of the 3 videos and found this sequence for 12 minutes. For me, it would be 3F2S the sequence that appears most, but it didn't work out. Every time I used the full backpack method and listened to 3 AHHH, I went to the item to refine and it went down, in addition to breaking a few times. Even items that passed the refining test broke when I chose the pattern.
      Do you write down the sequence and give ctrl +f to find the pattern? How do you do it? I followed all the right steps, but in the refining it was not working. I was trying to change the pattern and it still didn't work
      SSSFFSFSFSFFFSSFFSFSSSSFFFFFFFSSFFFSFSFFFSSSSFSFFFSSFSSSFSSSSSSFSSSFSSSSFSFFFSFFFFSSFSSSFFSSFFSFFFSSSFFFFFSFSSFFFSSSFFFFFFFFFSFFFSFSFSFFSFFFFFSFSSFSFFFFSFFFFFSFSSFFFFFSSFFSFFFSSFSFFFSSSSSSSFFSFSF

    • @redepicgames
      @redepicgames  4 года назад +2

      @@BroZekmoba hi bro, i was able to make +12 finger yesterday (jan 13,2020) with just 3 fails, from + 0 so i guess it is still working. My guess is that even if you got the correct pattern, but the item broke 2x, you should stop because it will not work. That is what i am doing. Sometimes i also think i got the correct pattern but still fails. Just stop after 2 consecutive fails since the charts says it should always have 1 hidden fail only

    • @BroZekmoba
      @BroZekmoba 4 года назад

      Red Epic Games I understood. Is the hidden fault just breaking or regression of the item considered hidden failure? I watched some videos from a youtuber that I learned from you, but he notes several patterns that came up and makes it different. For example: He wrote down 4 patterns, two of which appeared 9 and 8 times, the others only 2 times. when it refined using the pattern that appeared 9 times or the one that appeared 8 times the item broke more than once, but when it used the pattern that appeared only 2 times it was sure of success. I found it strange, but it worked for him. Could you make a video just refinandi, noting the sequence and showing how you identified the sequence? Ai shows leaving the item +10. I believe it would completely take the doubt out of everyone who failed to realize the method. Your 3 video showing Nile’s Bracelet is fine, you showed the sequence but did not show how you identified her patterns, because when I gave ctrl + f on the computer I found different numbers. If you could do another video showing step by step quickly, as you do on a daily basis, I believe that would get many subscribers and take the doubt of those who did not understand. When I watched the videos of a youtuber that I learned from you, even though he missed the first few videos I could see in real time and see some details, it helped a lot

  • @JJrandomVids
    @JJrandomVids 4 года назад +1

    if you are full inventory refining wont let you plus? but instead hear the patterns... ohh now i get it xD
    the hell..
    nice trick

  • @lancegabrieladona6635
    @lancegabrieladona6635 4 года назад +5

    Also, don't do this when you're dead tired and sleepy.

    • @rimasta8010
      @rimasta8010 4 года назад

      I did it when sleepy and tired,,, and the result is my doom axe failed to +13 xD

  • @crizarcxi
    @crizarcxi 4 года назад

    I dont know u sir but after giving alot of time to understand this ive made 3pcs eod+12 whild only using 8pcs. Thankyou for this guide i hope more ppl understand this. Idk how to attach a pic to show

    • @wrepaladin3974
      @wrepaladin3974 4 года назад

      Wat was your process? Can you explain in detail please. I failed miserably

  • @muh.imalal-ichsan2135
    @muh.imalal-ichsan2135 4 года назад +10

    while refining you will make ahh ohh yes oh no sound 😂😂

    • @iozchannel4725
      @iozchannel4725 4 года назад

      they forgot "oh my God" sound hahaha

    • @terminayeon2300
      @terminayeon2300 4 года назад

      when refining he said "hisasthi majushi majinaguri"

    • @iozchannel4725
      @iozchannel4725 4 года назад

      @@terminayeon2300 what spell was that 😂

    • @Sephian31
      @Sephian31 4 года назад +1

      I use headset when refining. People think I'm watching gay porn because of hollgrehen's moaning.

    • @iozchannel4725
      @iozchannel4725 4 года назад

      @@Sephian31 dont refine on public places dude, hahah

  • @psinka1292
    @psinka1292 4 года назад +1

    i tried 8 different items, spent milions of zeny and countless hours, not a single one had any noticable pattern and when i thought i found one, it turned out to be wrong too...
    like wtf is this for example, 9 fails in a row xD FFFssssFFFssFFssFsFsFFsFFsFsFssFsFFFFsFFFsFFFFssssFFFFFsFsFFFFsFFsFssssFFFFFFFsssFFFFsFFFFFssFFsssFFFFFFFFFsFFsFsFssFFsssssFFsssFssFFFFsssssFsssssFsFsssFFFssFssFssFssF
    everyone who got their stuff to +10 were just lucky with rng, theres no hidden method

    • @muhammaddian5979
      @muhammaddian5979 4 года назад

      You had 3x 3f2s on early. You need more . I think it is not enough to get pattern.

  • @Bradz911
    @Bradz911 4 года назад +6

    Hurm what to do.. even when hollegrehen says OOHH, my item broken. 😞

    • @redepicgames
      @redepicgames  4 года назад

      @4:47 ahh and ohh for broken upgrade if not full bag. Check my previous vids to recover fast 😁

    • @harilalmahato7971
      @harilalmahato7971 4 года назад +2

      @@canggusocialclub yup, happened to me after i refined my natto to +12, tried to refine my eod but its broken even if i get the 3f 2s pattern.

    • @abomination9279
      @abomination9279 4 года назад +3

      it means stop and try again the next day.

    • @chinshenglee7747
      @chinshenglee7747 4 года назад +1

      @@harilalmahato7971 yeah I got this recently as well. Some refinement bugs I guess. Was a painful lesson for me.

    • @christopher19843
      @christopher19843 4 года назад

      @@redepicgames pre baligtad ba ang moan ng full bag at hindi?

  • @ginfreecz
    @ginfreecz 4 года назад

    ginagawa ko na tong method na to matagal na ... timing and patience is the key talaga

  • @ismoyodanurwindo9895
    @ismoyodanurwindo9895 4 года назад +5

    I hope this effort can be utilized in school

    • @wordwariii687
      @wordwariii687 4 года назад +1

      yes its called "TRIAL AND ERROR" ...

  • @johnmichaeliglesias8314
    @johnmichaeliglesias8314 4 года назад

    Thanks to you Bro. Got my +15 ON using this refine trick.

  • @rudywu1
    @rudywu1 4 года назад +8

    OK this increase my confident level to 98%. i lack the 2% confident in the balls of steel (section d 23:13). So i take my time to to refine my balls before i refine my armors and weapon

  • @lorenzo2167
    @lorenzo2167 4 года назад +3

    Thank you so much in 1 hour i got plus10.matyrs and plus 10 luna brooch =)

  • @cesarmejia6372
    @cesarmejia6372 4 года назад +7

    Not working anymore, dont waste your zeny. This kind of "methods" are shared when they are about to be fixed.

    • @Dxco31
      @Dxco31 4 года назад

      Cesar Mejia realy?

    • @Honed-
      @Honed- 4 года назад

      @@Dxco31 yeah, it gets passed around the top guilds in secret, they take advantage of it, then when they have there gear, they sell it for outragous prices and make bank, thats why so many +10 +15 gear has popped up in the exchange.

    • @wutwut9078
      @wutwut9078 4 года назад

      sad to say but this is true on every game.

  • @scorch6959
    @scorch6959 4 года назад

    I'm surprised that I didn't have a lot of trouble understanding the technique I'm not that stupid then I thought
    Great video by the way

  • @dohinzane8696
    @dohinzane8696 4 года назад +4

    ill do this to my friends account xD

  • @jonathanngu9795
    @jonathanngu9795 4 года назад

    Made 2/5 +10 spearfish pikes from this. Nice guide!

  • @maverickreyes6468
    @maverickreyes6468 4 года назад +4

    i save my zenny for this part2

  • @ljclgaming2264
    @ljclgaming2264 4 года назад

    In short find the pattern. Do refining everyday. If you made +6 today and after that it fails, dont repeat it, upgrade next time. Then if +8 continues ,that item is meant to upgrade to +10 above. I wanna try this next time.

  • @JStar27
    @JStar27 4 года назад +4

    i had FFFFFFFFFSFFFFF at one point and no pattern after 30mins i thought the pattern was FFFSS i was on +9 now +4 broken wtf hahaha. that +1

    • @redepicgames
      @redepicgames  4 года назад +1

      hahaha, 2 consecutive fails means you got the wrong pattern XD in the chart, we only have 1 hidden fail every pattern

    • @junajayakingbird
      @junajayakingbird 4 года назад +1

      Stop and do it next day..

  • @crossnikk09
    @crossnikk09 4 года назад

    Ayus tung guide nato. Thank you ng marami!

  • @karlraineradviento6374
    @karlraineradviento6374 4 года назад +1

    This is great i tried it on a cheap eq(xbow) and it works, should have tried it on my nile's bracelet

  • @satalapam2763
    @satalapam2763 4 года назад +1

    I am very appreciated for your greatest effort! I understood since 1st time I've seen this mechanics. Hope that devs would be not refix anything regarding all these. 🤣🤣🤣

    • @redepicgames
      @redepicgames  4 года назад +1

      Tom is maintenance! Hope they will not fix 😁

    • @satalapam2763
      @satalapam2763 4 года назад

      I tried it in the Private home which xan avoid other to use me as sarcrifices and found that we can do Stress test in provate home too.

    • @satalapam2763
      @satalapam2763 4 года назад

      They fixed this...
      "Dear adventurers,
      We have scheduled server maintenance on 27th Nov. 10:00 to 15:00 (GMT+7) for both the "Eternal Love" and "Midnight Party" server, to process a new update patch. During the maintenance, players will not be able to log into the game. After the maintenance, we will send abundant items as compensation rewards. We apologize for this inconvenience.
      Issue Fixed:
      1. Disable Lisa Leaderboard
      2. Fixed the issue with the effect of “Lightning Chain” and “Meteor Chain”
      3. Fixed the issue with Stephanie Sun Collectable Items
      4. Fixed the issue with 6v6 Casual
      5. Lower the monsters difficulties from T3 job change"

    • @satalapam2763
      @satalapam2763 4 года назад

      I tried on Sage's Diary. I found many 3F2S(1H) but when we thought it would be same pattern on next time then it changed. Look like I have to tried again on tomorrow.

  • @sandysetiawan2892
    @sandysetiawan2892 4 года назад

    I got crossbow +10, +6 and+5 using this method. My pattern was 6 fail and 4 success. However after this pattern repeat 8 times (I also logged out once at that time and came back), it seemed that the pattern changed so I broke +5 and +6. But I'll try selling +10 to make a profit.
    Also, when I did the stress test, I was feeling "stress" trying to yolo 3 crossbow into +6 lol.
    Global player here

  • @asphyx5662
    @asphyx5662 4 года назад +1

    Hi. can you please make a video in identifying diff paterns? its still so confusing.

  • @mariatagle4097
    @mariatagle4097 4 года назад +1

    Yown! Nakarefine din ng sunod sunod, salamat huhu nabawi yung mga times na nabasag survival rod ko aylabyu na 😘

  • @BroZekmoba
    @BroZekmoba 4 года назад

    Hello, I followed all the steps of the 3 videos and found this sequence for 12 minutes. For me, it would be 3F2S the sequence that appears most, but it didn't work out. Every time I used the full backpack method and listened to 3 AHHH, I went to the item to refine and it went down, in addition to breaking a few times. Even items that passed the refining test broke when I chose the pattern.
    Do you write down the sequence and give ctrl +f to find the pattern? How do you do it? I followed all the right steps, but in the refining it was not working. I was trying to change the pattern and it still didn't work
    SSSFFSFSFSFFFSSFFSFSSSSFFFFFFFSSFFFSFSFFFSSSSFSFFFSSFSSSFSSSSSSFSSSFSSSSFSFFFSFFFFSSFSSSFFSSFFSFFFSSSFFFFFSFSSFFFSSSFFFFFFFFFSFFFSFSFSFFSFFFFFSFSSFSFFFFSFFFFFSFSSFFFFFSSFFSFFFSSFSFFFSSSSSSSFFSFSF

  • @z0r0arkgaming35
    @z0r0arkgaming35 4 года назад +2

    I do it to my luna brooch after 3 F taddaaaah it's now +10, thanks for the vid!

    • @redepicgames
      @redepicgames  4 года назад +2

      Congrats and don't be greedy 😁

  • @ferlynlandero6150
    @ferlynlandero6150 4 года назад

    Thank you sir. .nkapag +15 ako weap now. 1st time ko napanood teknik mo.. salamat salamat. Matagal ko pangarap ma +15 to

    • @solejaena
      @solejaena 4 года назад

      trueeeeeeee??? whoaaaaaa

    • @xil714
      @xil714 4 года назад

      sa isang araw lang yan? boss?
      nakaka 30m nakasi ako pero puro basag parin
      ginawa ko binasag ko yugn sinafe refine to +10 ko saka
      ko nirefine yung +4 na holy dagger pero basag parin haha

    • @pawellstone8617
      @pawellstone8617 4 года назад

      Is this still work? Or is it fixed on this current update? Tia

    • @philipjuquiana2817
      @philipjuquiana2817 4 года назад

      Is this trick still working foe the current update/patch?

    • @christianangelomendoza5743
      @christianangelomendoza5743 4 года назад

      Please tell if stillnworking. Hhaha

  • @Felipe-mo9ce
    @Felipe-mo9ce 4 года назад +1

    This is extreme complicated but I belive on it, I might try it later on, this last event i tried to refine a staunch armor, the plan was to buy 14 see what i get than safe refine to 10 in worst case, but 9 broken as +4 or + 5, i ended up needing to buy extra 3, it was terrible, so it probably means that it wasnt a staunch armor's day, by the other hand I straight made a + 9 str ring with 5 sucess in a row, without any analysis, so all of what you said in the video in a way make a lot of sense, thank you for sharing.

  • @muhammaddian5979
    @muhammaddian5979 4 года назад +1

    I success with 2x +10 yesterday . But I try again much broken and can't pass +9 and pattern look like change after 2 success +10. Today I tried refine my main equipment with good enchant (cause pass stress test through +7) and got +3 broken. Is that mora enchant effect on refine ?

    • @inn6300
      @inn6300 4 года назад

      no none of this works

  • @ronmichaelvalite7555
    @ronmichaelvalite7555 4 года назад +1

    Boss salamat s video, nka +12 eod dhil d2.. OHO AHHH.. Thanks thanks..

  • @chinshenglee7747
    @chinshenglee7747 4 года назад

    I have managed to refine successfully some👍🏻 and break some painful good items; really need some advice and help from u to avoid the distress. 😆😆
    1. Is the hidden break consistent? For example FFFS(H)S - will this be consistent all the way?
    2. Can I scarifise using non upgraded item such as cross bow instead of mystery bow?
    3. Will the pattern for the non graded same with upgraded? Tights vs ranger cloth?
    4. I have been stress testing dailies with multiple items. This can be very exp. So sometimes I do try this method without plus 8. Do passing with stress test happens always? I do not encounter even once.
    5. Can u suggest any stress test group so ppl can actually share their happiness? 🤣 I have been burning a lot of zeny
    Appreciated a lot for your videos and sharings. It help me widen the understanding for refinement and grow some balls of steel.

  • @abomination9279
    @abomination9279 4 года назад

    Im losing my patience with my wiz staff going back and forth +10 and +9. If your method works i swear you are sent from up above by the RNGods. I will try this method mate with 6m on hand. Hopefully i will get back to you with good news in a few days time. Thank you for sharing this mate. Now this is quality and helpful content y’all!
    Edit:
    Does this method work on any refine location (Guild hall, pront, nif etc)

    • @redepicgames
      @redepicgames  4 года назад

      yes, i only do this alone

    • @abomination9279
      @abomination9279 4 года назад

      Red Epic Games hey man i just want to thank you. I did this for 2 days. My ws has been going back and forth +9 to +11 then finally boom +12. This is legit.

    • @redepicgames
      @redepicgames  4 года назад

      @@abomination9279 congrats!

  • @johnwick-yy3pg
    @johnwick-yy3pg 4 года назад

    I just wanna say thank you and I made my set all +10 I never felt so good about this game with all the money I’ve spent. Thank you I’m sure I’m not the only one that appreciates.

    • @psinka1292
      @psinka1292 4 года назад

      how long did it take you to find a pattern? how long were you listening?

    • @johnwick-yy3pg
      @johnwick-yy3pg 4 года назад +1

      psinka I had to really listen & write it down so I don’t lose track but within few minutes I saw the pattern right away & everything paid off! Cheers & gl! Make sure to screenshot the formula he made so that you can go back to it whenever you refine again!

  • @Unknown-wg2gj
    @Unknown-wg2gj 4 года назад +1

    I dont understand ur example
    Fffss,ssffsssfs,fffss
    I dont find the patern of ssffsssfs on the pattern list..and how to know at the third is right fffss pattern? The first f it's possible to be a hidden pattern from the second pattern right? Wht is the different of hidden and the real pattern?

    • @redepicgames
      @redepicgames  4 года назад

      choose only what is available in the chart, if you think you got the pattern like fffss(1h), every 3f, do a refine 2x and it will have 1 fail in random. after that do full bag again and wait for 3 fail. take note that if you got 2 consecutive fail in refining, your pattern is incorrect because there should only be 1 hidden fail

  • @graCH-wg4mr
    @graCH-wg4mr 4 года назад

    Ty boss sa guide. Did +12 my EOD and book in just 1 day

  • @ryandaandhika
    @ryandaandhika 4 года назад +1

    Hey thanks for the super useful guide, i appreciate that u spent much time to create this. However i have several questions:
    1. In the vid, u mentioned that the pattern for tight and fist is same at that time. How do you know? Did you test it before making the video?
    2. You mentioned the importance of stress test, when to do the stress test exactly? Because u didn't showcase the stress test in the vid
    Thanks a lotl! 😊

    • @redepicgames
      @redepicgames  4 года назад +1

      1. im actually upgrading tights for my sniper before finger 2. i did a stress test for finger but using my alt,(to save main's zeny), after hearing that they have both easy pattern, i decided to make a video =)

    • @reniersundiang3665
      @reniersundiang3665 4 года назад

      @@redepicgames what items have easy patterns and which ones have hard patterns?

  • @condeumbrakarl1480
    @condeumbrakarl1480 4 года назад +1

    Exactly how will I find the Pattern? For example, I found 3F2S 4x, does this cycle repeat itself?

    • @redepicgames
      @redepicgames  4 года назад

      It will not repeat as the same loop but that pattern will occur more in that day

  • @joereddeguzman7809
    @joereddeguzman7809 4 года назад

    nagstart ako magrefine oct 2018 so bago palang ragna adik nako sa refine sa tagal tagal ko ng nagrerefine umabot ako sa +14 sniping suit dahil sa observation ko sa pattern ng fail at success pero yung temptation ang tumatalo sakin. tumagal pa naiintindihan ko na yung 3fail 1 success tapos ginagawa ko rin mag +3 muna ako ng malinis then pang4tn refine ko yung main item. nagsusuggest narin ako ng sacrifice sa guildmates ko pero di sila naniniwala. hindi ko kasi to ginawa yung pattern mo brad detailed .ito yung naiintindihan ko na pagrerefine na teknik na hindi ko maipaliwanag sa kanila hahaa hahaha kaya natatawa lang sila. so tumagal pa ulit napansin ko na yung tunog ng ahh at ohhh sa refine isang beses nag lag ako naglakad yung character ko sa malayo pero naka pasok parin ako kay manong refinetinry ko pumalo tapos naririnig ko lang yung ahh at ohhh so inhlit ko yun dun ko pinagaralan yung pattern dahil free hahaha ohhh at ahhh pattern tapos minsan hindi gumagana yung iddc ko yung phone ko para lang kumuha ng pattern so one time again full bag ako +10 ng malang ko hindi pumasok kasi full sa narealize ko wowwwww pwede ko nanaman hanapin ng free yung pattern .pinagaaralan ko ngayon yung umiikot sa box ng refine kung may koneksyon sa success at fail. kasi yung enchant dun ako nagbabase nakakuha ako ng arch4 para sa sniping ko at malang. so maniwala kayo dito guys sa video nya kasi yan na yan din ang ginagawa ko pero walang naniniwala kasi nga di ko mapagunayan yung 1 hidden fail na naipaliwanag dito. good job brad and thanks!!

    • @redepicgames
      @redepicgames  4 года назад

      Kung naniwala sila myaman n sila ngyon 😁

    • @alstairejudepapilla9137
      @alstairejudepapilla9137 4 года назад

      Ganito rin ako magrefine, kaso ung temptation at greed talaga ang mahirap, ung minsan magkakaroon ka ng gut feel na papasok, tapos benta nung narefine, tapos palo uli, pero wala na pala ung instinct, greed na ung pumalit, kaya mauuwi sa YOLO technique.. Ubos pera... Hahahaha! Discipline ata muna kailangan para di maging masyadong matigas ung balls/ breasts of steel..

  • @drewgaming4722
    @drewgaming4722 4 года назад

    Subscribed. I will discuss this with my friends and see how accurate. Practice lang tlga need d2. Hopefully madami kami ma gawa na success. :D

    • @redepicgames
      @redepicgames  4 года назад

      take not pag 2 consecutive fails meaning mali pattern mo kasi dapat 1 hidden fail lang goodluck

  • @babyd3ar
    @babyd3ar 4 года назад +1

    Hi.. after few test by using full bag method, i got this kind of pattern (fsssfsfsssfsffffsfsffsfssfsffssfffsffssssssfsfssfffsssssfsffffsfsssssfffssssfffsfsffssfsffsffssffsfsfffffssssfssssssssffsssfssfffsssfsssfsfffssfssfffffffffffsssfssfsfsf). i'm sure that it is fffss pattern of the day. my question is, there is also a pattern that fff and ff. how did you avoid this pattern?

  • @robertcezarfirme5879
    @robertcezarfirme5879 4 года назад

    I got my brooch to +10 there is a pattern but its really hard. You need to write it down the failed and the success Good luck.

  • @Mikantrop
    @Mikantrop 4 года назад +2

    HI, i want to ask how to differentiate the fail sequence between the 3F2S pattern and the normail straight fail (i.e 4x fail) in a row? @Red Epic Games

  • @zackariah1634
    @zackariah1634 4 года назад

    YES! Been waiting for this bro thanks for the guide

    • @zackariah1634
      @zackariah1634 4 года назад

      But i have a question bro. Is it necessary to make a +4 item to find out the 1h?

    • @redepicgames
      @redepicgames  4 года назад

      @@zackariah1634 if i got 2 consecutive success, much better to put the fail to other items right? =) otherwise my item will be downgraded. take note that my pattern during that day is 3 fail 2success 1 hidden fail

    • @zackariah1634
      @zackariah1634 4 года назад

      @@redepicgames ahhh ok bro tnx a lot for the quick reply

  • @jamesmanaloto4243
    @jamesmanaloto4243 4 года назад +1

    Just got my dagger +10, im getting the hang of it.

  • @ziezie6359
    @ziezie6359 3 года назад

    How to know the pattern between equip ..like u told on the vdeo .tight is same pattern with the knuckle .what of if i want refine my syuriken ..can i check the patter.using any equip..or just use other syuriken

  • @whizwizja
    @whizwizja 4 года назад

    Excuse me sir, could you please explain more detail of frame delay, i don't understand clearly about it. By the way thank you so much for sharing a good method.

  • @photoshootcenter8770
    @photoshootcenter8770 4 года назад

    Hi Red Epic Games, got some questions
    1. IF you refine an item +4, then switch to another, can you switch back to see if it passes stress test or must it be one shot go ?
    2. For the pattern, do you start checking the patterns from the start of full bag or can it be visible midway as well ? (basically you're using some portion of the pattern to refine the stress test)
    3. How if you have a pattern of FFFSS then somewhere midway you have some FFFFFSS inside? Is that a trap or anyway to know which 3 F is the next 2 S ?
    Hope to have some clarification. I cant reload since i am from a poor family, hence i'm constantly relying on my guild members for help. I really hope this could help me.

  • @iantangbaoan324
    @iantangbaoan324 4 года назад

    Damn it..sinubukan ko tong technique mo boss..after 3 fail nag po ako pero kabaliktaran ang nang yari..success yung boses ni hallorghen pero pababa yung refine..+7 naging +6

  • @oniemorata1206
    @oniemorata1206 4 года назад

    Hahaha...!!! I thought I'm only the one in the island..❤️ peace out bro...!!!

  • @flintelvinedvart9969
    @flintelvinedvart9969 4 года назад +1

    mind blowing! thank you sir!

  • @aldenu5295
    @aldenu5295 4 года назад

    I used to do safe refine for my main items til plus 10 and then I watched this video and realized it's possible for me to go yolo mode. got a forever year old broken +4 luna brooch. repaired it and boom it went straight to plus 10. my first ever unsafe refine that went past +7 then straight to 10 haha

  • @aldrinesoleybar8962
    @aldrinesoleybar8962 4 года назад +2

    thanks to this... made +15 orlean's necklace 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @DanielNevilleDSouza
    @DanielNevilleDSouza 4 года назад

    How do you identify higher patterns? 3f2s is easy to find, but higher ones? like ffsfs is quite identifiable, but sometimes ffsff also comes in the list. how to identify if it is a part of a bigger pattern?

  • @celsowaldem750
    @celsowaldem750 4 года назад

    Boa noite amigo, ainda esta funcionando esse método? E funciona no Brasil? Tentei uma vez e não achei o padrão.

  • @jimietj5351
    @jimietj5351 4 года назад

    Hai bro.. ty for the video n technique.. such a big help actually.. just wanna ask, does rate success same from +6 or 8 or even 12?.. or when higher the refine, the higher the fail rate? ..

  • @renn2396
    @renn2396 4 года назад +1

    Great guide sir! Will try this! Need tlaga pasensya dito at manual na mag take notes. Hahaha! Salamat po!!

    • @redepicgames
      @redepicgames  4 года назад

      ingat lang nung baguhan ako 50m nawala sakin. pero bawing bawi namn na hahaha

  • @mikhaileangeles3166
    @mikhaileangeles3166 4 года назад

    question .. how will you know what pattern will be use on the day of refining ?