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The end really hits how Robotnik’s fear became true: he became his father in a way. Now just ridiculing his “son” just like Harold did to him when he was young, blaming his own mistakes on his son. Amazing video!
@@fynnthefox9078no, it rhymes. History does not repeat. While events have similarities, the context is difference. It is true that Ivo is repeating the cycle of abuse.
Please tell me I’m not the only one who thinks a Metal Sonic is the best villain from this franchise. I mean he’s literally the perfect dark reflection of sonic. Sonic is all about freedom, adventure, protecting nature and its animals, all with the cocky attitude, while Metal is artificial, cold, calculating, and does most of his work quietly.
This also adds a bit of tragedy to Robotnik's character in that biographic. In a different but similar way, he ended up inflicting his trauma on the closest thing he had to a son by literally throwing him against the wall with minimal alteration to his plans and blaming the failure on Metal when he was the one who came up with the plans and made Metal to begin with.
I'm wondering if there's any deeper meaning to how Sonic's drawn throughout this. Note how he's drawn in the same evil gremlin-esc. look in the Eggman biography video, yet during Sonic Heroes (When Metal isn't under Eggman's control) Sonic's drawn normally...
I think it’s all down to interpretation. Eggman sees Sonic as the devil, a thorn in his side, a menace to his life’s work. And that’s how he originally programs Metal to see Sonic as well! Then once Metal isn’t under Eggmans control, he sees Sonic for, well, Sonic. The facade that was programmed into his hardware is gone.
I love how Metal views Sonic as a villain due to Sonic looking like a monster at first but slowly Sonic looks more normal meaning that Metal is starting to view Sonic differently
I agree, this could also be seen as when metal states he understood the deeper meaning of sonic's statement in sonic heros but initially dismissed it as asinine
Yea, as much as I like the idea of eggman helping people, I much prefer the idea of his ego Allows his to think he’s helping the flikys. In the IDW comics he said that he believes that he’s the good guy and that sonic is stoping evolution
@@skylerwarren7300 Yeah, what's Eggman's reaction towards Sonic freeing his animal friends who by the way did tell him to free them. He just goes ahead to kills him. No explanation or anything, just wants to kill him. It seems that Eggman doesn't realize that he's the bad guy.
Because sonic IS a Monster, Sonic doesn't understand the animals weren't hold against their will, they we're willingly put in machines for an Amusement park....
Always felt that Metal Sonic’s character never got the attention and appreciation he could have from Sega, so this really is the best way to show his surprisingly layered personality.
Since "sonic heroes" metal sonic has been an unimportant boss that is there to fill in when in the archie comics the first metal sonic (shard) becomes good let's hope that in sonic fronters he has a little more prominence because metal these years has been falling like the other characters, an example is tails who becomes completely useless, just watch his cinematics in sonic forces and you will understand i think it would be a good idea if they released their own game like the metal episode of sonic 4 but i would prefer others like knuckles
I feel like the reason why sonic looks like an evil gremlin at first, is because that’s how Metal viewed Sonic, an inferior, disgusting being. After years of Metal being defeated by Sonic, he realises that Sonic is truly superior to Metal, which is why Sonic is drawn normally. Metal realised he was just going to be defeated again and again, so he realised that he couldn’t beat Sonic. Sonic was the superior, and not a weak, ugly villain. Just a theory though.
37:48 the line "I give up." really shows the frustration of being made to do one thing for eternity. Realising you're stuck in a endless loop without being able to change your fate.
Even in a reality where he does go along with his creator’s plans (Mania Adventures), he still loses… Come to think of it… that probably counted as teamwork in that one’s eyes… I THINK THAT HIT HIM *WORSE!!!*
I love the detail that when Metal revolted against Eggman Sonic and friends looked normal, almost like Eggman programmed Metal to see Sonic as a villain
It is the admission that he cannot fight fate. That he is doomed to failure, again and again and again. One can only take so much failure before one ultimately checks out.
Interesting detail: Knuckles is one of the rare ones to not change that much from his original expressions. He just looks angry. The same way Eggman could convince Knuckles to help him. He doesn't seem to view Knuckles as much of a pest, as they could cooperate in the past.
"Fairness is a social construct, made to protect the weak from the strong" is such a raw quote Also, I enjoy that you use the name Heracles, and love the idea that Metal Sonic's shapeshifter powers were achieved by devouring Chao The ending was extremely depressing though, but it was perfect in that way I like how Eggman's treatment of Metal is subtly like how he was treated by his own father
Fairness makes working together and dividing resources more efficient. Without fairness society would be a primitive violent ghetto, something which the strong would also suffer from.
Man, Seeing Eggman go… rather insane… is painful. If he learned he made Metal before Sonic drove him mad, he’d want to be friends with him! Eggman would probably be ecstatic that he made a robot who could think, who could FEEL! Eggman would hopefully treat Metal better- like a son, even! It’s sad that he fell into his own madness, and dragged Metal with him
After from frontiers, Now that Sage is created, I wonder if she could be the only "hope" to heal Eggman's mental health? Almost as sort of a therapist AI that knows Eggman is not doing fine.
Dr Eggman was drawn the same way from the beginning, in his classic form. I believe this was done on purpose, because, in Metal Sonic's perspective, his creator hasn't progressed a single bit since day one. For Metal, he's the same person after all this time: a Flawed self-irritated failure of a man. I really really liked this video, the format is amazing.
This reminds me of the image from one of the comics, where robotnik is repairing Metal, asks ‘Did ya atleast hit him’ or something along those lines. Metal gives a thumbs up, and Eggman says ‘Thata boy!’ I really hope that Robotnik and Metal will care for eachother in this..
It was something like this: "He wouldn't recognize a true work of art if it punched him in the face! ...You did punch him in the face, right?" *thumbs up* "Attaboy!" Also, I love how he is fixing Metal personally. Not using any other capsules, no other machines. Just him, his greatest creature and a good old screwdriver. Kinda shows their connection
I actually like how Sonic looks like menacing with an aggressive smile and how Eggman and Metal Sonic described him as a monster in their perspective. That’s equivalent to how every villains viewed Batman as a monstrous beast, even if he's just a man in a costume. After all, every villains are the heroes of their own story.
I like how the moment that metal Sonic starts seeing himself as evil that's when Sonic himself stops looking like an ugly monster and actually starts looking more like the one from the video games that's a really good touch
I love how this vid ultimately becomes a jab at the franchise itself for no longer using Metal to his full potential, but DAAAMN, he went straight-up nihilistic at the end
It's honestly really depressing that endless loop Metal Sonic's in thanks to Eggman's mentality. It reminds some lines from Starline in the IDW comics: "Neo Metal Sonic nearly succeded in reviving the Eggman Empire. But he acted too brashly. He thought overwhelming power would win the day without a proper plan. I thought because he'd been designed as a counter to Sonic, a ballistic missile with a built-in grudge. But the first bio-data he downloaded was Eggman's. And here we are, seeing the *exact same* brute-force strategy. I got lost in the pageantry, in his showmanship. I was Inspired by Eggman's legend. The man simply doesn't measure up."
and now Starline made the exact same mistakes as Eggman, he even made his own version of Metal Sonic in the form of Surge, complete with a built in grudge and massive identity issues. heck recently in the comics Surge even started eating Whisps for a power boost just like how Metal ate a bunch of Chao in this video.
After 5 long years, you made something serious again, and just like Eggman's history, I love it! After watching those 2 videos I once again realise that fans can do much better than SEGA was ever able to.
I genuinely feel bad for Metal at the end, knowing that you can't do a thing about your fate or future no matter what you are given is a painful revelation for something like Metal Sonic.
I really liked this bio and i liked how it shows that metal sonic is so overused to the point he will never be as cool as he used to be and is basically a jobber now. I also liked how when metal sonic betrays eggman he sees sonic and friends for who they truly are rather than how eggman wanted him to see them as. He even began to recognize that he and eggman were villains and weren't the heroes he once thought they were. Honestly i kinda wished you touched upon metal sonic's insecurity of not being the real sonic. Metal's identity is so tied to sonic that nobody recognizes him as his own person they just see him as a "metal" sonic. So in heroes he wanted to roboticize the entire world so that he won't be "metal" sonic anymore, just sonic. But still i like how this bio basically just shows how metal lost his edge and isn't that cool anymore.
As with the Eggman version, I like to see how they see the facts of the games, in their own way, and how they see the characters. It also caught my attention, that after adventure 2, sonic, tails, knuckles, amy, rouge ect... now they are not exaggerations, but rather they are more similar to their official designs. I guess maybe it's because metal already sees those characters as heroes, or something.
i think the idea is it's symbolic of metal breaking free from eggman's influence (and possibly suggesting that eggman was an unreliable narrator in the first one). metal starts out seeing the world through a filter of eggman's programming, as such he sees sonic and his friends in the same way as eggman, but as he becomes more independent and defiant he begins to see them as they are, without eggman's perception.
Honnestly as a fan of metal sonic, this video was so sick, I loved how it gave a new prospective on every game metal sonic has been featured in. Plus I loved how it added truly new and great layers to metal sonic's character, and how it adds a proper build up to his betrayal in sonic heroes. Plus I love how the ending was both a fitting ending to his arch, and a meta commentary on how metal sonic is basically treated by sega. Basically this was just great all around.
Fudging claps all around! The story flowed excellently and featured the actual plot lines of the sonic games form metals perspective, music, as always, on POINT! And same with the voice acting. I love love LOVE this!!!!!
I love how he implied that he murdered the chao. But like in canon. They just cant be stabbed to death. They can only die natuarly and they are more dense than metal. (Sources: adventure 1,2 advance 2,3 and probably somewhere else)
Tbh. Its likely his copy ability is derived from the chao drives. Any creature, living or not, that uses the power of the chaos emeralds is always left with a residue of power on them and Chao can use this energy to evolve at will. With just Sonic and Shadow's data he would still look like Neo Metal Sonic, albeit slightly stronger. He needed the Chao data to facilite his dragonic transformation and to be able to draw upon ambient chaos energy to power it.
THIS is the kind of characterization Metal needed. There's so much potential for story telling with such an iconic robot doppelganger, and Heroes barely scratches the surface. This was a much more interesting take on it. Awesome job to everyone involved!
This is genuinely the best representation of Metal I've ever seen. I don't know how, but you managed to capture just how damn deep of a character Metal is and told his life in just such a moving way. The way he descends into desperation after failing constantly ... like just WOW. and the NARRATION IS SOO GOOD WTF. THE ANIMATION FITS SO WELL AND THE WRITING LIKE HOW??? Gosh I can't get over how much I LOVE this. I'm so glad this is my introduction to your channel you've earned a sub outa me ❤
God, i love when people make sonic characters get so many more layers to characters that the company that they actually belong to dont even feel like giving them. Makes the games/movies fanbase even better in my opinion.
This was amazing! That part with the Chao? I was expecting something wholesome, was not expecting "that". Maybe a story about Shadow next? Delve into Gerald's past and his relationship with Maria, perhaps explore parts of their relationship we didn't get to see.
@Tooning we know a bunch about Knuckles he’s the guardian of the master emerald and angel island. It doesn’t really intersect well with this eggman storyline. I feel like Orbot and Cubot could well utilize the characters Metal and Eggman.
@Tooning it’s mostly a mystery to him as well. He chose to spend his life guarding the master emerald while knowing nothing of his origin. And we already know about the Knuckles Clan like Tikal and the Mystic Ruins. We know nothing about Orbot and Cubot the two perfect characters for a trilogy of Eggman, Metal Sonic and Orbot & Cubot.
Something I noticed at the end with the "I give up" at the end, it sounded like there was a sudden jolt of emotion before it cut off into the static, I don't know if it was intentional but it works so well
Man this makes me feel so sad for metal. Just how much he's gone through and so much pain that you can feel in his voice when he talked about his failure and neglect
The movies are definitely teasing him with the fact that Robotnik has a quill to make his machines go as fast as Sonic himself. He has to be the final antagonist of the series.
25:12-27:22 SWEET MOTHER OF GOD! Metal Sonic sure was hungry, hopefully he had a good meal and filled up that poor starving stomach of his, also I felt so sad to where I wanted to just give him a huge hug and never let him go, he will always have a special place in my heart (/ Edited Note: This was also very well done /)
This may be a bit on the nose, but I’d love to see what his interpretation of the past on Sonic The Hedgehog himself. It’d be interesting to see how he became the speedy, confident hedgehog he is now.
i really like how sonic and his friend look less "evil(?)" the more we get closer to the modern era of the game and how the good guy and bad guys slowly swap
This reminds me of Omega, he also despised eggman for wasting his potential. The difference is Omega joined team dark while metal sonic stood with eggman. Wonder how metal would react to Omega in this scenario, maybe seeing him as lucky for escaping this "loop."
Bravo! Amazing! Honestly, Metal is such an interesting character and I love the way you wrote him. Eggman's biography was so interesting to me and this does not disappoint. And that final Act, it hits so hard. You are a brilliant story teller!
Something i noticed after a bit over a year after this was originally uploaded is that while metal sonic can now perceive sonic and his friends normally instead of the furry gremlins eggman sees them as, metal still sees him as his classic version showing that despite everything, eggman has never changed or grew as a person.
I'm glad this came out! The storytelling, the art, the way you represented each game, the details and the voice acting. It's all great, good work! Edit: also the dialogue and writing is also awsome as well, like really well written.
the fact over time the image of sonic becomes less Monstrous (Aka Doctor eggmans view of sonic) to more what he really looks like. as if metal is getting a personality and point of view on life, while he still sees eggman as what he used to be.
So this is where Robotnik went after his tragic backstory. Right into the more traditional depiction. Which calls into question whether any of what he said earlier is true, that the animals were in any way safe during the process that uses them as power sources.
man how eggman fell from grace became good to evil. I REALLY LIKED THIS BIOGRAPHY I LOVE THIS INTERPATATION OF METAL SONIC ITS HHGHGHGH AMAZING I WISH TO SEE MORE AMAZING JOB MUGIMIKEY
Oh my gosh, he's in the Chao Garden! Finally, a work that shows his softer si- _Oh..._ ----- In all seriousness, as a massive Metal Sonic fan, I appreciate this fan work. Like Metal himself, sometimes I wish that he would achieve victory of some sort... but as long as what Sega continues to write his fate, the future doesn't look bright. Perhaps in another time, and another place... _cough cough_ fan creations not restrained to canon _cough_ ...he could find happiness, and maybe that's what I'll have to settle for. Again, exceptional work here. While it's unlikely that you'll tackle anything Metal-centric in the future, I wish you the best of luck with whatever you have planned next regardless
Damn i didn’t expect to see this in my feed, but i have to blatantly admit i was waiting quite awhile to see a sequel to the Eggman, video, and you definitely didn’t disappoint me Mugi, i expected it to be really good, but man you blew my expectations out of the park, though i like how you made Metal, so similar to Shadow, which i quite enjoy i mean you just gave him a better personality, plus just making him more ambitious which helps explain why he did what he did in Heroes, he just wanted to be free to conquest on his own without Eggman, or anyone supporting him yes that’s a reference to the Biolizard’s, boss theme title, and also i just love how you incorporate the lore of the games even spin-offs, by detailing it, and giving more context to things. Now I’d really love to see a video like this on Rogue, Tails, and Sonic, himself to see his side of the story since in the Eggman, video he’s demonized, but i have to see Sonic’s, opinion, and point of view of Eggman, since to us Sonic, is the hero aside from the times Eggman, helped the good guys, anyway that being said you would have to make liberty’s for a lot of their stories that we don’t see in the games mainly Rogue, to be honest i can see her as a hooker, though do to her brains she’s brought in to work as a agent since she’s seen as better than just a hooker bimbo, you could probably spin some interesting crap like that, but heck maybe you can even do this with other series’s in this style. even though i know you’re the sonic guy, but i just love this concept honestly.
I dig it! This really does summarize Metal Sonic's arc, all while presenting what his thoughts & contemplating may have been at those respective times.
Metal Sonic thinking of the philosophy of videogames that Eggman just made up to keep himself sane and blow off steam from failures is kinda hilarious.
You know I kind of feel like this is a story that he's telling the Sage after she finds him in the back of a broom closet or something. I do really hope that Metal Sonic comes back in the video games in a really cool way
Now I kinda want a Sonic Biography because seeing how he was depicted by both Eggman and Metal in their own unique way I think it's would be interesting to see what Sonic have to say for himself and how he see the others.
I love everything about this. Metal Sonic has been growing on me lately, and this was just the cherry on top. I'm eating all this up. Thank you for all your amazing work.
I may be 2 years late, but I haven't seen a comment talking about this, so here we go. I love how Metal comes to the same realization that forms Sonic's philosophy of living life to the fullest, but instead of taking it that way, he looks at it in a pessimistic light and finds no point in anything.
I dont know why, but when metal sonic said "I give up" at the end, it hit me with a strange vibe. it's sad that metal sonic will always be used for the same purpose, and no free will
I do like how when Metal is under Eggman’s control, he sees Sonic as a little monster and when he’s free, he sees him how he really is. Just goes to show that Eggman truly was evil, just didn’t seem to realize it at the top, even going so far as having Metal see Sonic how HE sees Sonic.
Metal sonic here reminds me of the IDW comics of him, but less like a killing machine. I wish they brought this aspect of his character over to IDW of him potentially having a personally other then being a killing machine for Eggman. Maybe we could have an IDW story where sonic and Tails goes into an alternate timeline, and sees that Metal Sonic took over the world without Eggman being there, and Metal hating him as a failure, compared to how he see himself. Or maybe Cream the Rabbit can try to reform Metal to fight for good instead of evil. And maybe Cream and Metal could potentially be good friends. With Metal seeing a side of life that he never had before under Eggman. I know Sega's going to say that Metal Sonic has to be a rival to Sonic, but I argue that Metal Sonic is way more then just a simple rival or killing machine. He can think; and is self aware about what's going on.
His is well made and I like how it covered metal sonics origins from CD all the way up to bland forces. Did metal sonic really conically consumed the blue chaws to become metal emperor? It is sad to see something as amazing as metal sonic to be reduced to nothing more then a slight upgraded side bad guy. I would actually like if robotic won and succeeded in killing off sonic and see how the franchise would go in a alternative time line.
@@peeka_ Its implied he needs to at least see or touch the being he intends to copy the lifeform data. Its also not instantaneous and it can be interupted (and even corrupted if he is damaged sufficently). Also not every Metal Sonic has copying bio-data enabled. Which the widely believed reason why Metal no longer talks or grows into his Neo form. Eggman is weary of letting Metal run rampant, even if it could lead to Sonics demise. Should be pointed out the Eggman built Metal Sonic from life-form data of Sonic himself (albeit its quite out-dated information) so eating creatures is not required... also metal has no mouth to "eat" tho nothing stopping from coating himself in blood with his claws. Also "life-form" data isnt that hard a concept. There are people building robots and drones IRL that mimic animals for movement.
Holy shit, the Chao Garden part took me off guard. The somber remix of the "Goodbye" theme was just.....if there was an anti-chef's kiss, that'd be it.
Between this and the Robotnik video (Wow can't believe that one's 5 years old), I ADORE your alternate interpretation of these characters. While I struggle to slot them in as "headcanon," I absolutely love thinking about them as alternate universe versions of the characters we've come to know over the last 30 years. If you ever do another one of these, I'd be ecstatic to see what you have in mind. And even if these stay as a duology, they're a damn fine piece of Sonic fan-media.
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The end really hits how Robotnik’s fear became true: he became his father in a way. Now just ridiculing his “son” just like Harold did to him when he was young, blaming his own mistakes on his son. Amazing video!
poetry. it rhymes.
He seemed to be a better father to sage in sonic frontiers.
History repeats itself.
@@fynnthefox9078no, it rhymes. History does not repeat. While events have similarities, the context is difference. It is true that Ivo is repeating the cycle of abuse.
@@johnpett1955 perhaps his experience in that game has changed him for the better maybe he could become a better father
Please tell me I’m not the only one who thinks a Metal Sonic is the best villain from this franchise. I mean he’s literally the perfect dark reflection of sonic. Sonic is all about freedom, adventure, protecting nature and its animals, all with the cocky attitude, while Metal is artificial, cold, calculating, and does most of his work quietly.
You're not the only one
I’d probably say Shadow, but to be honestly he isn’t evil enough.
@@joshshrum2764 Yes, also what would you give Metal Sonic to eat in Act 8?
@@QueenNEORayven Probably just some killer good steak, or a burger maybe a snickers because you aren’t you when you’re hungry.
@@joshshrum2764 XD
What else would you give him?
I like how Metal Sonic’s brightest moment, the Stardust Speedway race, mirrored Robotnik’s time at the theme park, hoping it would last forever
Like father like son
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@@peculiarjack617 what
@@megasnowey7177 and a dash of irony to spice it all up
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Robotnik's backstory was sad but had a hopeful ending
Metal's is pure depression
I agree
This also adds a bit of tragedy to Robotnik's character in that biographic.
In a different but similar way, he ended up inflicting his trauma on the closest thing he had to a son by literally throwing him against the wall with minimal alteration to his plans and blaming the failure on Metal when he was the one who came up with the plans and made Metal to begin with.
@@spinyjustspiny3289 Yes, which is why I'd take better care of Metal Sonic, even having him try my cooking
@@QueenNEORayven you based mf
Crona from Soul Eater level
I'm wondering if there's any deeper meaning to how Sonic's drawn throughout this. Note how he's drawn in the same evil gremlin-esc. look in the Eggman biography video, yet during Sonic Heroes (When Metal isn't under Eggman's control) Sonic's drawn normally...
Bingo.
My guess is that its probable evidence that either this is how Eggman interprets Sonic, or that he's an unreliable narrator.
I think it’s all down to interpretation. Eggman sees Sonic as the devil, a thorn in his side, a menace to his life’s work. And that’s how he originally programs Metal to see Sonic as well!
Then once Metal isn’t under Eggmans control, he sees Sonic for, well, Sonic.
The facade that was programmed into his hardware is gone.
Egg pawn propaganda
Eggman wants to stop Sonic, while Metal doesn't really care about the big picture and wants to destroy Sonic
That's my guess, I'm only 33 seconds in
I love how Metal views Sonic as a villain due to Sonic looking like a monster at first but slowly Sonic looks more normal meaning that Metal is starting to view Sonic differently
I agree, this could also be seen as when metal states he understood the deeper meaning of sonic's statement in sonic heros but initially dismissed it as asinine
Yea, as much as I like the idea of eggman helping people, I much prefer the idea of his ego Allows his to think he’s helping the flikys. In the IDW comics he said that he believes that he’s the good guy and that sonic is stoping evolution
@@skylerwarren7300 Yeah, what's Eggman's reaction towards Sonic freeing his animal friends who by the way did tell him to free them. He just goes ahead to kills him. No explanation or anything, just wants to kill him. It seems that Eggman doesn't realize that he's the bad guy.
It might be the way he veiws himself the change happened after he did something only a monster will do he ate all the chao
Because sonic IS a Monster, Sonic doesn't understand the animals weren't hold against their will, they we're willingly put in machines for an Amusement park....
Always felt that Metal Sonic’s character never got the attention and appreciation he could have from Sega, so this really is the best way to show his surprisingly layered personality.
Since "sonic heroes" metal sonic has been an unimportant boss that is there to fill in when in the archie comics the first metal sonic (shard) becomes good let's hope that in sonic fronters he has a little more prominence because metal these years has been falling like the other characters, an example is tails who becomes completely useless, just watch his cinematics in sonic forces and you will understand i think it would be a good idea if they released their own game like the metal episode of sonic 4 but i would prefer others like knuckles
"character character"
At least they didn't ruin him
He gets some cool scenes in the IDW comic, specifically one of the annuals has a kinda view from his perspective of things
I feel like the reason why sonic looks like an evil gremlin at first, is because that’s how Metal viewed Sonic, an inferior, disgusting being. After years of Metal being defeated by Sonic, he realises that Sonic is truly superior to Metal, which is why Sonic is drawn normally. Metal realised he was just going to be defeated again and again, so he realised that he couldn’t beat Sonic. Sonic was the superior, and not a weak, ugly villain. Just a theory though.
That's how Dr.Robotnik viewed him too, an annoying little pest who kept destroying his childhood dreams of opening a theme park.
A GAME THEORY
" Imagine conquering the world and continuing to lose. Couldn't be me, literally."
My favorite line
*cough cough*
Okay mr. All living things kneel before your master…
@@ReverseCone-du3rc it's not like he succeeded
37:48 the line "I give up." really shows the frustration of being made to do one thing for eternity. Realising you're stuck in a endless loop without being able to change your fate.
Even in a reality where he does go along with his creator’s plans (Mania Adventures), he still loses…
Come to think of it… that probably counted as teamwork in that one’s eyes… I THINK THAT HIT HIM *WORSE!!!*
I love the detail that when Metal revolted against Eggman Sonic and friends looked normal, almost like Eggman programmed Metal to see Sonic as a villain
Thats actually true confirmed by mugimikey himself
When he said "I give up" it hit hard as hell, how do you put so much emotional impact into one sentence
It is the admission that he cannot fight fate. That he is doomed to failure, again and again and again. One can only take so much failure before one ultimately checks out.
Interesting detail: Knuckles is one of the rare ones to not change that much from his original expressions. He just looks angry.
The same way Eggman could convince Knuckles to help him. He doesn't seem to view Knuckles as much of a pest, as they could cooperate in the past.
This gave him more character than the games.
Peak story telling
"Fairness is a social construct, made to protect the weak from the strong" is such a raw quote
Also, I enjoy that you use the name Heracles, and love the idea that Metal Sonic's shapeshifter powers were achieved by devouring Chao
The ending was extremely depressing though, but it was perfect in that way
I like how Eggman's treatment of Metal is subtly like how he was treated by his own father
Fairness makes working together and dividing resources more efficient. Without fairness society would be a primitive violent ghetto, something which the strong would also suffer from.
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But true fairness doesn't, society is not fair by any means as well, anyone who says so is a liar and probrably privileged.
How did he even eat the Chao, anyway? Did he shove them up that torso opening of his?
Man, Seeing Eggman go… rather insane… is painful. If he learned he made Metal before Sonic drove him mad, he’d want to be friends with him! Eggman would probably be ecstatic that he made a robot who could think, who could FEEL! Eggman would hopefully treat Metal better- like a son, even! It’s sad that he fell into his own madness, and dragged Metal with him
now the only hope he's got now is that he doesnt end up like his father Harold, something that openly disgusted him
If it's any consolation, Eggman does treat him better in the IDW comics, not as a son but he will give the occasional praise.
After from frontiers, Now that Sage is created, I wonder if she could be the only "hope" to heal Eggman's mental health? Almost as sort of a therapist AI that knows Eggman is not doing fine.
Dr Eggman was drawn the same way from the beginning, in his classic form. I believe this was done on purpose, because, in Metal Sonic's perspective, his creator hasn't progressed a single bit since day one. For Metal, he's the same person after all this time: a Flawed self-irritated failure of a man.
I really really liked this video, the format is amazing.
Damn, I never thought of it that way
This reminds me of the image from one of the comics, where robotnik is repairing Metal, asks ‘Did ya atleast hit him’ or something along those lines. Metal gives a thumbs up, and Eggman says ‘Thata boy!’
I really hope that Robotnik and Metal will care for eachother in this..
It was something like this:
"He wouldn't recognize a true work of art if it punched him in the face!
...You did punch him in the face, right?"
*thumbs up*
"Attaboy!"
Also, I love how he is fixing Metal personally. Not using any other capsules, no other machines. Just him, his greatest creature and a good old screwdriver. Kinda shows their connection
Narrator: *They did not.*
@@avragidootisdumb thats right
Bro Metal really roasted Eggman. “Imagine conquering the world just to lose. couldn’t be me. Literally”
I actually like how Sonic looks like menacing with an aggressive smile and how Eggman and Metal Sonic described him as a monster in their perspective. That’s equivalent to how every villains viewed Batman as a monstrous beast, even if he's just a man in a costume.
After all, every villains are the heroes of their own story.
I like how the moment that metal Sonic starts seeing himself as evil that's when Sonic himself stops looking like an ugly monster and actually starts looking more like the one from the video games that's a really good touch
I love how this vid ultimately becomes a jab at the franchise itself for no longer using Metal to his full potential, but DAAAMN, he went straight-up nihilistic at the end
It's honestly really depressing that endless loop Metal Sonic's in thanks to Eggman's mentality. It reminds some lines from Starline in the IDW comics:
"Neo Metal Sonic nearly succeded in reviving the Eggman Empire. But he acted too brashly.
He thought overwhelming power would win the day without a proper plan.
I thought because he'd been designed as a counter to Sonic, a ballistic missile with a built-in grudge.
But the first bio-data he downloaded was Eggman's. And here we are, seeing the *exact same* brute-force strategy.
I got lost in the pageantry, in his showmanship. I was Inspired by Eggman's legend. The man simply doesn't measure up."
and now Starline made the exact same mistakes as Eggman, he even made his own version of Metal Sonic in the form of Surge, complete with a built in grudge and massive identity issues.
heck recently in the comics Surge even started eating Whisps for a power boost just like how Metal ate a bunch of Chao in this video.
@@anthonyrodriguez8788 well said
@@Jann75 he also got bodied by Eggman
After 5 long years, you made something serious again, and just like Eggman's history, I love it! After watching those 2 videos I once again realise that fans can do much better than SEGA was ever able to.
I genuinely feel bad for Metal at the end, knowing that you can't do a thing about your fate or future no matter what you are given is a painful revelation for something like Metal Sonic.
I really liked this bio and i liked how it shows that metal sonic is so overused to the point he will never be as cool as he used to be and is basically a jobber now. I also liked how when metal sonic betrays eggman he sees sonic and friends for who they truly are rather than how eggman wanted him to see them as. He even began to recognize that he and eggman were villains and weren't the heroes he once thought they were. Honestly i kinda wished you touched upon metal sonic's insecurity of not being the real sonic. Metal's identity is so tied to sonic that nobody recognizes him as his own person they just see him as a "metal" sonic. So in heroes he wanted to roboticize the entire world so that he won't be "metal" sonic anymore, just sonic. But still i like how this bio basically just shows how metal lost his edge and isn't that cool anymore.
The biography nobody wanted but the one we deserve.
🤓
I wanted it
@@originalname4701 same
Well i kind of did since i remember the cliffhanger, from last time, but i want to see a sonic one just to see Sonic’s point of view.
Everyone wants it
It’s even cooler when you get to see the whole projects process from behind the scenes. Good job as always! 🔵🤖
As with the Eggman version, I like to see how they see the facts of the games, in their own way, and how they see the characters. It also caught my attention, that after adventure 2, sonic, tails, knuckles, amy, rouge ect... now they are not exaggerations, but rather they are more similar to their official designs. I guess maybe it's because metal already sees those characters as heroes, or something.
i think the idea is it's symbolic of metal breaking free from eggman's influence (and possibly suggesting that eggman was an unreliable narrator in the first one).
metal starts out seeing the world through a filter of eggman's programming, as such he sees sonic and his friends in the same way as eggman, but as he becomes more independent and defiant he begins to see them as they are, without eggman's perception.
@@spoonybard2380 Exactly, in fact, when I thought about it more... I came to the same conclusion
Honnestly as a fan of metal sonic, this video was so sick, I loved how it gave a new prospective on every game metal sonic has been featured in.
Plus I loved how it added truly new and great layers to metal sonic's character, and how it adds a proper build up to his betrayal in sonic heroes.
Plus I love how the ending was both a fitting ending to his arch, and a meta commentary on how metal sonic is basically treated by sega.
Basically this was just great all around.
Fudging claps all around! The story flowed excellently and featured the actual plot lines of the sonic games form metals perspective, music, as always, on POINT! And same with the voice acting. I love love LOVE this!!!!!
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I love how he implied that he murdered the chao. But like in canon. They just cant be stabbed to death. They can only die natuarly and they are more dense than metal. (Sources: adventure 1,2 advance 2,3 and probably somewhere else)
Tbh. Its likely his copy ability is derived from the chao drives. Any creature, living or not, that uses the power of the chaos emeralds is always left with a residue of power on them and Chao can use this energy to evolve at will.
With just Sonic and Shadow's data he would still look like Neo Metal Sonic, albeit slightly stronger. He needed the Chao data to facilite his dragonic transformation and to be able to draw upon ambient chaos energy to power it.
I like that the chao were being litral animals eating other animals themselves
Then in Frontiers It said that they were apparently Koco.
THIS is the kind of characterization Metal needed. There's so much potential for story telling with such an iconic robot doppelganger, and Heroes barely scratches the surface. This was a much more interesting take on it. Awesome job to everyone involved!
I like how Robotnik still keeps his classic clothes, sells the whole metal sonic‘s perspective point of view.
This is genuinely the best representation of Metal I've ever seen. I don't know how, but you managed to capture just how damn deep of a character Metal is and told his life in just such a moving way. The way he descends into desperation after failing constantly ... like just WOW. and the NARRATION IS SOO GOOD WTF. THE ANIMATION FITS SO WELL AND THE WRITING LIKE HOW??? Gosh I can't get over how much I LOVE this. I'm so glad this is my introduction to your channel you've earned a sub outa me ❤
Metal Sonic saying "Fairness is a social construct" like he's giving a lecture genuinely cracked me up.
This was a very well written deep dive into Metal's history. Really wish Metal could be revitalized, althought we all know that isn't happening.
Imagine him coming back in the newest game.
God, i love when people make sonic characters get so many more layers to characters that the company that they actually belong to dont even feel like giving them. Makes the games/movies fanbase even better in my opinion.
This was amazing! That part with the Chao? I was expecting something wholesome, was not expecting "that".
Maybe a story about Shadow next? Delve into Gerald's past and his relationship with Maria, perhaps explore parts of their relationship we didn't get to see.
Maybe we could get a story on Orbot and Cubot?
@Tooning we know a bunch about Knuckles he’s the guardian of the master emerald and angel island. It doesn’t really intersect well with this eggman storyline. I feel like Orbot and Cubot could well utilize the characters Metal and Eggman.
@Tooning it’s mostly a mystery to him as well. He chose to spend his life guarding the master emerald while knowing nothing of his origin. And we already know about the Knuckles Clan like Tikal and the Mystic Ruins. We know nothing about Orbot and Cubot the two perfect characters for a trilogy of Eggman, Metal Sonic and Orbot & Cubot.
We need a Daddy Dearest or Amy Rose one.
@@moniqueperkinsmp do you mean Gerald Robotnik?
Something I noticed at the end with the "I give up" at the end, it sounded like there was a sudden jolt of emotion before it cut off into the static, I don't know if it was intentional but it works so well
Man this makes me feel so sad for metal. Just how much he's gone through and so much pain that you can feel in his voice when he talked about his failure and neglect
The sequel we never knew we needed
I don't know about you, but I definitely did need this.
Now I want him as the final and main antagonistic of the Sonic movies.
The movies are definitely teasing him with the fact that Robotnik has a quill to make his machines go as fast as Sonic himself. He has to be the final antagonist of the series.
I like how metal doesn't view robotnik as his master but more as doctor looking after a sick patient
25:12-27:22
SWEET MOTHER OF GOD! Metal Sonic sure was hungry, hopefully he had a good meal and filled up that poor starving stomach of his, also I felt so sad to where I wanted to just give him a huge hug and never let him go, he will always have a special place in my heart
(/ Edited Note: This was also very well done /)
Metal would tear you to bloody pieces, hugging him is just an invitation for him to make you eat your own heart.
This may be a bit on the nose, but I’d love to see what his interpretation of the past on Sonic The Hedgehog himself. It’d be interesting to see how he became the speedy, confident hedgehog he is now.
Ah yes, the adorable mechanical murder child, the best Sonic, Metal Sonic. With a tragic story. He deserves a break.
That part where metal starts eating the Chao's genuinely shocked me, it took a dark turn real quick. Well done
Truly a fate worse than death. This Ozymandias has no mouth, and they must scream.
i really like how sonic and his friend look less "evil(?)" the more we get closer to the modern era of the game
and how the good guy and bad guys slowly swap
The scene where Metal did “things” to the chao really made me stay up all night
Metal Sonic is definitely an underrated character in the franchise. I'd love to see Metal Sonic come back in Frontiers.
He did not
Metal being my favorite character in the series, this was real treat. Really an outstanding job you've done for this video my guy.
This reminds me of Omega, he also despised eggman for wasting his potential. The difference is Omega joined team dark while metal sonic stood with eggman. Wonder how metal would react to Omega in this scenario, maybe seeing him as lucky for escaping this "loop."
"a resting bich face as he crossed into the unknown"
"how to be a cheap bastard."
That caugth me so off guard that i laugthed
I liked how you managed to side-step a lot of metal sonic's confusing history
Bravo! Amazing! Honestly, Metal is such an interesting character and I love the way you wrote him. Eggman's biography was so interesting to me and this does not disappoint. And that final Act, it hits so hard. You are a brilliant story teller!
Something i noticed after a bit over a year after this was originally uploaded is that while metal sonic can now perceive sonic and his friends normally instead of the furry gremlins eggman sees them as, metal still sees him as his classic version showing that despite everything, eggman has never changed or grew as a person.
I love how you had time to make backstories for the two Sonic bad guys, I can't wait for the future of this series and what it has to offer
I'm glad this came out! The storytelling, the art, the way you represented each game, the details and the voice acting. It's all great, good work!
Edit: also the dialogue and writing is also awsome as well, like really well written.
I love how that according to Mikey, Sonic the Fighters and Sonic R are just video games within the Sonic universe.
Man. Love these Bios.
Need to see more Sonic characters in here such as Tails, Amy and Knuckles.
I never thought we’d have a sequel. But I am so glad we do have one
the fact over time the image of sonic becomes less Monstrous (Aka Doctor eggmans view of sonic) to more what he really looks like. as if metal is getting a personality and point of view on life, while he still sees eggman as what he used to be.
So this is where Robotnik went after his tragic backstory. Right into the more traditional depiction. Which calls into question whether any of what he said earlier is true, that the animals were in any way safe during the process that uses them as power sources.
Eggman's conflict with sonic drove him mad
@@boogaloobender3462perhaps, but given what we see of his behavior during the Vietnam War section, he’s done some nasty stuff even when he was “sane.”
i love how over time metal sonic stops seeing sonic as the demon he is portrayed as and more like his normal self
Can't believe its been 5 years since the first one! So worth the wait!!
24:58:"That Betty Boop Rouge is short circuited my brain".😂
man how eggman fell from grace became good to evil. I REALLY LIKED THIS BIOGRAPHY I LOVE THIS INTERPATATION OF METAL SONIC ITS HHGHGHGH AMAZING I WISH TO SEE MORE AMAZING JOB MUGIMIKEY
Oh my gosh, he's in the Chao Garden! Finally, a work that shows his softer si- _Oh..._
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In all seriousness, as a massive Metal Sonic fan, I appreciate this fan work. Like Metal himself, sometimes I wish that he would achieve victory of some sort... but as long as what Sega continues to write his fate, the future doesn't look bright. Perhaps in another time, and another place... _cough cough_ fan creations not restrained to canon _cough_ ...he could find happiness, and maybe that's what I'll have to settle for.
Again, exceptional work here. While it's unlikely that you'll tackle anything Metal-centric in the future, I wish you the best of luck with whatever you have planned next regardless
See, your mistake was thinking that a character that literally has "Metal" in the name would have a soft side
Damn i didn’t expect to see this in my feed, but i have to blatantly admit i was waiting quite awhile to see a sequel to the Eggman, video, and you definitely didn’t disappoint me Mugi, i expected it to be really good, but man you blew my expectations out of the park, though i like how you made Metal, so similar to Shadow, which i quite enjoy i mean you just gave him a better personality, plus just making him more ambitious which helps explain why he did what he did in Heroes, he just wanted to be free to conquest on his own without Eggman, or anyone supporting him yes that’s a reference to the Biolizard’s, boss theme title, and also i just love how you incorporate the lore of the games even spin-offs, by detailing it, and giving more context to things. Now I’d really love to see a video like this on Rogue, Tails, and Sonic, himself to see his side of the story since in the Eggman, video he’s demonized, but i have to see Sonic’s, opinion, and point of view of Eggman, since to us Sonic, is the hero aside from the times Eggman, helped the good guys, anyway that being said you would have to make liberty’s for a lot of their stories that we don’t see in the games mainly Rogue, to be honest i can see her as a hooker, though do to her brains she’s brought in to work as a agent since she’s seen as better than just a hooker bimbo, you could probably spin some interesting crap like that, but heck maybe you can even do this with other series’s in this style. even though i know you’re the sonic guy, but i just love this concept honestly.
I dig it! This really does summarize Metal Sonic's arc, all while presenting what his thoughts & contemplating may have been at those respective times.
Metal Sonic thinking of the philosophy of videogames that Eggman just made up to keep himself sane and blow off steam from failures is kinda hilarious.
I searched up “Metal sonic” on a whim and I’ve never been happier to find a video
You know I kind of feel like this is a story that he's telling the Sage after she finds him in the back of a broom closet or something. I do really hope that Metal Sonic comes back in the video games in a really cool way
Now I kinda want a Sonic Biography because seeing how he was depicted by both Eggman and Metal in their own unique way I think it's would be interesting to see what Sonic have to say for himself and how he see the others.
It’s very interesting to see biography of metal sonic. You can also see Eggman’s descent into madness.
I love everything about this. Metal Sonic has been growing on me lately, and this was just the cherry on top. I'm eating all this up. Thank you for all your amazing work.
Hope he sees this reply!
I remember your amazing dubs, thank you for still making content. This is an amazing video on Metal!
We finally know the real reason the Chao Garden vanished after SA2. 26:20
I may be 2 years late, but I haven't seen a comment talking about this, so here we go.
I love how Metal comes to the same realization that forms Sonic's philosophy of living life to the fullest, but instead of taking it that way, he looks at it in a pessimistic light and finds no point in anything.
I dont know why, but when metal sonic said "I give up" at the end, it hit me with a strange vibe. it's sad that metal sonic will always be used for the same purpose, and no free will
I do like how when Metal is under Eggman’s control, he sees Sonic as a little monster and when he’s free, he sees him how he really is. Just goes to show that Eggman truly was evil, just didn’t seem to realize it at the top, even going so far as having Metal see Sonic how HE sees Sonic.
Metal sonic: I give up...
Me: That's the spirit. Giving up is the first step to admitting you have a problem :3
Metal sonic here reminds me of the IDW comics of him, but less like a killing machine. I wish they brought this aspect of his character over to IDW of him potentially having a personally other then being a killing machine for Eggman. Maybe we could have an IDW story where sonic and Tails goes into an alternate timeline, and sees that Metal Sonic took over the world without Eggman being there, and Metal hating him as a failure, compared to how he see himself. Or maybe Cream the Rabbit can try to reform Metal to fight for good instead of evil. And maybe Cream and Metal could potentially be good friends. With Metal seeing a side of life that he never had before under Eggman.
I know Sega's going to say that Metal Sonic has to be a rival to Sonic, but I argue that Metal Sonic is way more then just a simple rival or killing machine. He can think; and is self aware about what's going on.
Thank you for giving my favorite Sonic charecter some justice! The story was so well made, i hope to see more of this in the future!
“That is who I am.”
Nice little homage to Shadow there.
I'm so glad you finally followed up on the Eggman biography video, it's probably my favorite video from you
His is well made and I like how it covered metal sonics origins from CD all the way up to bland forces. Did metal sonic really conically consumed the blue chaws to become metal emperor? It is sad to see something as amazing as metal sonic to be reduced to nothing more then a slight upgraded side bad guy. I would actually like if robotic won and succeeded in killing off sonic and see how the franchise would go in a alternative time line.
There's no canonical explanation as to how Metal could copy bio data
@@peeka_ Its implied he needs to at least see or touch the being he intends to copy the lifeform data.
Its also not instantaneous and it can be interupted (and even corrupted if he is damaged sufficently).
Also not every Metal Sonic has copying bio-data enabled. Which the widely believed reason why Metal no longer talks or grows into his Neo form. Eggman is weary of letting Metal run rampant, even if it could lead to Sonics demise.
Should be pointed out the Eggman built Metal Sonic from life-form data of Sonic himself (albeit its quite out-dated information) so eating creatures is not required... also metal has no mouth to "eat" tho nothing stopping from coating himself in blood with his claws.
Also "life-form" data isnt that hard a concept. There are people building robots and drones IRL that mimic animals for movement.
let's go it's here!
That last part was amazing! Makes you really see the character in a different light. Good job!!
YESS I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!!
Holy shit, the Chao Garden part took me off guard. The somber remix of the "Goodbye" theme was just.....if there was an anti-chef's kiss, that'd be it.
At 26:22 when metal sonic “eats” the chao, I think he just puts them in his...engine, maybe jet? And it grinds the chao into little pieces.
Painful either way.
I absolutely LOVE this style of video. This is my second time watching it, but when I first had seen it I got way too excited.
Man, here I am always coming to this channel for some quick gags and laughs..
This was fantastic. Great work!
Between this and the Robotnik video (Wow can't believe that one's 5 years old), I ADORE your alternate interpretation of these characters. While I struggle to slot them in as "headcanon," I absolutely love thinking about them as alternate universe versions of the characters we've come to know over the last 30 years.
If you ever do another one of these, I'd be ecstatic to see what you have in mind. And even if these stay as a duology, they're a damn fine piece of Sonic fan-media.
"A resting b*tch face as he crossed into the unknown"
Classic.
24:58 That Rouge in the corner caught me so off-guard. XD.