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The Volvo V90 T6 Shows How Lightness Matters More than Size - One Take
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- Опубликовано: 12 апр 2020
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The Volvo V90 is the full size wagon which shares its architecture with all 60 and 90 series models (S, V, and XC). The two Volvos we've driven previously this year featured the T8 Hybrid powertrain, and this one demonstrates the evolution of the T6 gasoline version. Whereas the last-gen T6 was a transversely mounted, Turbocharged Inline Six, T6 now means a transversely mounted, turbo and supercharged 2.0L inline four, mated to a haldex-style AWD system. While there are certainly some improvements over the older powertrain, especially in the handling department, does this complex gasoline powerplant try to be too many things to too many people?
Volvo provided the vehicle, insurance, and a tank of fuel for this review.
BRING BACK WAGONS!
GO TO SWEDEN!
:)
Especially supercharged. Turbocharged wagons 🧚
Volvo just cancelled the v60 and v90 in America :(
Words of wisdom, as a driver that drives more than 300km or about 200miles per day as average, these are the best possible choice, better than SUV and 5person family as us, even more better
“It’s not as long as it looks, but it is big.”
He said that before
my gf said the same the other night
MrTruth111 🤔🤨🤦🏻♂️☺️👍🏻
Yup
I think it is 2 inches longer than my old Chrys 300. And the same diff for folded back seat length.
I have driven this exact car with the Polestar Optimization Package (a $1295 option on the T6 AWD) and can tell you it makes a world of a difference on these cars. Shifts faster, better throttle response, more power, more torque, more power to the rear, better supercharger/turbo integration, and more responsive paddles/transmission, among other things. I wouldn't buy a new Volvo without that package.
Mark Kibbe but it should have the gearbox software as standard. Massive rip-off to charge to sort the standard cars shortcomings. I’ve got a 2019 diesel V90. The gearbox is the weakest part of the car by far
@@Bottomburbsburnbums Agreed that it should be standard, especially on the R-Design. The car with the Polestar tune is how the base car should be programmed, and the optional Polestar tune should be more enthusiast-based with even more aggressive software that gets the most they can out of the hardware. I thought the gearbox was decent, but I am used to driving a P2 XC90 V8 with the atrocious 6-speed auto that has 2-second shift times and really tall gearing, so the 8 speed feels like a dual-clutch by comparison. But it could (and should) be better.
Great review. I’ve got one of these in the UK but in D5 (235bhp) AWD tune with a Polestar remap on the engine and gearbox. Pulls like a train, and handles very well, even with the heavier Diesel engine. Quiet, quick and composed. I just love it.
How much did a remap cost?
My wife and I were literally just talking about this wagon! We are going to look at one as soon as we are allowed out of the house!
NibbleSnarph You will love it
Check it out in Passion Red. Gorgeous car
I own one. My favorite car ever. I've had a string of 5-series wagons, and this beats them all.
Driven it several times. I am lucky to usually getting upgraded with car rentals and I have driven this on the US and Canadian highways as well as in the UK and Germany. It is a great car and I can only recommend it. Reliability wise it would be better than an Audi or BMW as well. And the aesthetics of this car are just really pleasing, and I never got tired of it.
I love mine!! I’ve had a V90 CC and it is incredible!
Wish people bought this over the (raised) XC90, this is so much better.
is it? i rather like the XC90, the design is excellent
@@ogmechsftw The design in this is just as excellent and this is way more enjoyable to drive.
In my opinion, the only reason to get the XC90 is if you need the third row of seats. The V90 is incredible. (Source: me, I own a V90 CC)
@@rebekahwood62 CC and Inscription are totally different cars, I've driven both one has a stiffer ride (CC) the other is pure luxury and power
The V90 Inscriptions with the T6 have some amazing colors. Big fan of the Denim blue and Pine grey. Would take it over an XC90 anyday. But the 4 cylinder can’t measure up to the 3.0 T6, which was a gem.
Nobody:
Absolutely nobody:
Matt: It's not as long as it looks but it is big
I have a V90 CC T6 VOR.. Absolutely love the car.. looks amazing, rides very well and fast.. it's good for every situation.. but I agree, the shifting of gears is far from perfect.. I would have bought it manual if available.. but it's not. Been driving it for a bit more than one year.. roadtrip is a must with this car! City driving is amazing..super relaxed and quiet (I have double glass windows).. motorway also super nice..i feel really safe inside and the car looks and feels very well built (in Sweden.. not China:D) interior is fantastic and sound system amazing. But again, coming from a BMW, I do miss my manual transmission.. anyway, no regrets, still love the car! I would definitely recommend it
That award is strange when I look up 1-2 year old Volvo’s they are about half the price of new.
Now that’s a value!
Yeah I was very skeptical when I heard about that award. Hard to imagine this will be cheaper to own all in than an es300 lexus or something similar.
here in sweden theyre holding value like any other luxury car
Especially if you drive it like this selfish jerk. Nice role model, going twice or thrice the speed limit on public roads. All of that "resale value" and cost of ownership bs is worthless. Sponsored nonsense. Buy something cheaper and the money stays in your pocket in the first place.
Why you are always driving too fast on public roads ? Whats the reason?
It's a great family car. Not a sports car, but plenty of fun.
I like. And they are such a welcome alternative, visually, to the Audi BMW VW heavy streets here in germany.
I just want a bmw e46 without a sunroof. Those things weigh 74 lbs, but virtually every US car has one.
definitely enjoyed that drive with you. felt like i was there. Cant wait to take my S90 on an open road trip with scenery. great vid.
I look at that car and think "now that should have a longitudinal inline six"
Inline 5. For heritage
@@NatoriousGamePlay inline 6(White block) is heritage too. Way more low end torque too.
Like the OG 960
While I agree that this sexy long hood deserves an I6 underneath it, Volvo is a small company now, and as regulations get more complex and more strict, Volvo likely can't justify the R&D and tooling to make a 2nd engine. 😢
Exactly. Took them forever to go to double wishbone, now a 4?
I love the blue that volvo offers. My neighbour has a T5 R-design in the same colour with a black grille and aftermarket wheels. Looks so good!
Colorado?
The Evolution of XXI Century Volvo:
1. 5 cylinders
2. 6 cylinders
3. 4 cylinders
4. No cylinders, soon.
5 cylinders 🤘🤘
let's not forget the v8 in s80 and xc90
3 cylinder like the new Koenigsegg
@@o0260o Volvo have its own 3 cylinder 1.5T, at least in EU.
Just be glad 3 cylinders wasn't the next evolution
Saw one on the street today. I thought I didn't like the new lines Volvo designers are into but I have to admit it caught my eye! Indeed it looks quite large and 4100 lbs IS large
We LOVE our prev-gen V60 T5, and when getting new-gen Volvo’s as loaners whenever getting maintenance done, I can pretty much guarantee that a new V90 will be coming in the next couple of years. Thanks for these videos Matt!
Chinese car🤣
I ordered the shirt last week. Can't wait to get it!
I love my D5 version here in the UK. I used to find the gearbox a real nuisance but the Polestar remap also adjusts the gearbox settings and makes it so much better!
My biggest gripe is how the seat belt locks you in if you come up to a junction slightly quick. I makes leaning forward to check the road is clear a bit of a nuisance.
Great review and great vehicle. I love my V90 CC! Very competent across a myriad of road surfaces and handles more like a RWD than a FWD, even in snow. Thanks!
I've got a 2020 V60 CC in birch white metallic, black interior with all options. I love it, especially the Bowers audio !
Great looking wagon. I miss my 850 Turbo Wagon. Unfortunately I can't afford one new, but I'll be keeping an eye on these in the used market for sure.
Amazing as always Matt!
Any car with an automatic trans that doesn't shift properly is off of my list. Theres just simply no excuse. You can tweak certain things on a car, but unless someone can tune the trans ecu, the car is always going to be an exercise in frustration.
you can get a polestar tune that remaps the trans and give you more power
Aftermarket website called hiltontuning.com can take care of this. Tuned my S60R twice through them. Well respected in the Volvo community.
@@theguy3112 Hilton Tuning doesn't have anything for SPA-platform vehicles.
I optimized mine with the Polestar, it was agile before, it is a beast now, the gas mileage drops though, when you select drive mode “Polestar Engineered”
It shift's properly he's used to Performance cars.
I just picked up a V90 T5 R-Design and the greatest surprise has been how nimble and playful it is. I was expecting a much softer, more sedate car, but its steering and brakes are incredibly sharp, and even the T5 does a great job of fully utilizing its torque.
It's also one of the most beautiful cars I've ever seen. Everything is so perfectly proportional, not a single line out of place, and I'm sure it will age incredibly well.
I ordered one of these in January and got it about a week ago, same loadout minus the big wheels (thanks Ohio). Above riding really soft on comfort mode, she likes to dance and it's surprising. It really doesn't feel like you're heaving a ship behind you it just turns and goes, their suspension setup is tremendous, barely any side hop and it feels the same at 20mph and 80mph. I haven't really gassed it as I am letting the engine break in but they take advantage of the supercharger, greatly. The torque under 2K is tremendous, the transmission knows where to stay most of the time. It's a TF80 based Japanese transmission and they've always been a little wonky dating back to 2006+ Volvos however they're very reliable for the power. It's a very good car, I highly recommend looking into them, unfortunately the Bursting Blue color is out for '21 as it's a very deep color, blue in daylight but purple in sunset light.
Congratulations!
Aisin gearbox?
Volvos suspensions have improved. The 850 R and s70 sporty cars were harsh over bumps and did this weird dance at the rear end in corners around bumps. But that characteristic is even in the last generation's Volvos, where they seem to side step over ruts and bumps in corners. It was a particular body movement characteristic. The new ones just shrugs them off. While the new ones wearing the largest tires may not absorb the biggest bumps and ruts as well as some other makes, they do a lot better than older Volvos.
I feel, despite the smaller engines and compromises in the transmissions, Volvo is making their absolutely best cars now. I wish they'd tighten up on reliability but past Volvos have been a pain in the butt too in terms of reliability. I think a bit more fine tuning of the suspension and they equal the German cars. Maybe a tip higher in terms of interior materials as well. They're getting close to the Germans. Closer than they've ever been.
Jarek Nowak yeah TF81, Volvo ceased manual gearboxes accross the line
@@jareknowak8712 es
I think people over estimate how much they need "fast" cars.
I'm a big believer that a 5-6 sec 0-60 is great for an everyday vehicle. I also couldn't care less how many cylinders the vehicle has (my everyday is a 4 and I have owned 4,6,8,12) the difference is sound and ability to adjust to inputs from the throttle (not to mention front end weight.)
@Blue Steel If you look at the vehicles that sell the most you are absolutely correct most are right below 200HP.
The problem I believe is manufacturers limit the HP for fuel economy standards instead of tuning the engine which could deliver more power and get better milage. By that I mean develop the torque curve as low as possible in the RPM range; giving the driver a better feel of acceleration while also creating a system where the driver does not ring the engine out in order to move. Less RPMs means less fuel consumption.
No matter what a 300 HP engine uses the same amount of fuel; doesn't matter how many cylinders, or how it is generated either by turbo or supercharger or naturally.
Правильно заметили. На большой скорости гоняют только юноши. Приличное поколение любит ездить с комфортом.
My favorite new Volvo is the V90 Cross-country. So stylish, so comfortable.
mine too its as close as they've gotten to the p2 v70's stylistically in a loooong time, its a welcome return to form.
Hows the storage facility going ? Keep up the good work stay safe
I have a 2019 V90 CC T6 with the Polestar Optimization. The Polestar power and torque gains are only 14 and 30 respectively but it really improves the drivability of the car. Better throttle response, shifting seems faster, and torque bias is slightly more towards the rear.
Would argue that the back storage would have been better if Volvo hadn't sloped the hatch as much (more like the V60). Also there is almost no underfloor if it has a spare. So not a lot of storage, IMO. Overall, I really like it - biggest complaint is the gas mileage is disappointing.
That's unfortunate to hear re: the mileage. I'm interested in a V90 CC T6 -- mind if I ask what are you getting for MPG's, city/hwy?
@@lebowski97
Spring highway driving in Comfort mode (default mode) - I can barely get 9.4 l/100 kms (equals about 25 mpg) @110 - 120 km/hour. In the City (again in comfort mode) I average (Spring) about 14 - 15L/100 kms (16 - 17 mpg). In winter it was even worse. It's due for service soon, so I'll get it checked out - when I first got it, the mileage was better - but never close to advertised. In Polestar Mode - it's even thirstier (but fun). Note: I'm on the low end of the scale for mileage if you check out forums. Should be getting closer to 30 mpg on highway and 24 in the City.
Old Papa that’s... wow. My 02 BMW 540i (a 4.4L V8) gives me 16mpg city and 24mpg highway. This isn’t a brag for my old ass car at all, but more so just me being shocked at those numbers.
Daniel Stewart I’m definitely on the low end of fuel mileage so need to get it checked out whenever I can. But even new, the mileage wasn’t close to estimates - the only way I ever got into the 8’s (L/100 Kms) range on the highway was in ECO mode. I downsized into this car so expected better mileage. Don’t get me wrong though, it’s a nice car I’m just filling it up more than I would have expected. On the plus side, in Polestar mode it is fun to drive (and makes good sounds, IMO). Fit and finish is very good - it’s a very solid car.
Old Papa - appreciate that feedback on the Polestar optimization as I’m really considering it for mine
Wife had a 2018 S90 Inscription. She went through 2 sets of brake pads, a cracked 20" wheel and a set of tires in 45K before we traded it on a new lease. Still loved the car. Rode well and was relatively quick for as big of a car as it was. We had the air suspension in the rear which was just absolutely lovely in eliminating road irregularities.
This is the only car that Volvo have made that I've like and would seriously consider buying, I love these things.
Always love a good wagon!
Such a beautiful looking car, Volvo absolutely nailed the design. Slightly disappointed to hear that the transmission isn’t the most responsive, but at least the ride and handling seem to make up for it. Overall sounds like a great car all around, good review!
Most people buying this care more about the ride. It's a luxury wagon and they don't want to hear the engine much. Handling next and transmission shifting last. But it is good to get an enthusiast's point of view of what Volvo can improve on.
This generation of Volvo's are stunning automobiles. When they throw an inline 6 in one, I'll get serious about buying one.
I6 - not gonna happend.
Only I4 in this car.
Then you won't get one. It's not going to happen. They are going hybrid and then electric. But I agree, the current gen of Volvos are quite nice.
I see you remembered your hand sanitizer.
My current car and I LOVE it 🥰
Anyone else getting the 8 Bit 80’s era Geico ads? They are Rad!
So is the long roof. Love the Volvos! Also, and I’m only 1/2 way through the video, I prefer the T6 to the T8. The hybrid ads WELL over 500 lbs to the curb weight and only benefits you around town. If I lived in LA like you, the hybrid would make sense. Anywhere that the EV only range doesn’t make much sense, neither does the T8.
True.
And V90 is not the best city car by any means.
At least not in Europe.
My sister has a V90 Cross Country and loves it!
Конечно! Ведь она права на 100%!
If only they made this with the old T6 (6 cylinder) and RWD..
if only it still had the b5254(5 cylinder)
@@2JZDestroyer love the sound of 5 cylinders. Made the Volvo (and Audi) distinctive..
And if China didn’t own them
@@2JZDestroyer That engine was great but was too old. The I5 deserved a new variant.
@@MrCarGuy you took the words out of my head , maybe if they twin charged it and gave it an anti lag system. nevermind that would move the platform too far up market to be feasible
those front seats look heavenly
Jeff Gluck they are
Is Matt wearing a gold Seiko Turtle? Damn. That is a sweet wrist axe!
--Michael
The hell is a wrist axe?
The small turning circle is probably because this architecture is one of very few that use a double wishbone suspension in conjunction with a transverse engine layout.
The car is really so good by itself that the absence of an I5 or I6 powertrain choice really hurts me personally and almost physically. The I5 (own one) deserved to be evolved.
Nothing but reliability (and very expensive maintenance with that turbo and supercharger) issues in long-term ownership.
These power trains and the t8 scare me enough to only want a t5 or avoid the car all together
Such a gorgeous wagon
I wish it had a five cylinder turbo
A Volvo 850 T5-R is what convinced me to take the next step from bolt ons with my shitbox.
When I was younger and foolish we got to around 110mph on a deserted stretch of I-5 when my car hit the speed limiter.
He just kept pulling, and pulling, and buh.
Bye.
Thank you Volvo guy.
Surprised to hear about the gearbox misbehaving in manual mode. My V90 Cross Country (in Europe) will not shift up in manual mode on its own, also it shifts down anywhere in the band. That said, when I drive in the Alps or similar roads, I almost always drive in manual as the car has no clue what lays ahead and takes you halfway through a hairpin in 6th gear if left in auto. Other than that, I love it.
V90 is so sweet!! Super rare too.
The "head slap" button is amazing
What helps you guys more? Watching your youtube videos or listening to the podcasts?
Do both!
I prefer the One Takes but can learn a lot on the podcasts, depending who is on.
Great video
@10:30 is pure talent, moving at that pace and making complete sentences geee
I love these Volvo videos. I hope people buy them
They're selling well. But not the wagons or even the sedans that much. The SUVs are selling well.
That road!!! 🤩🤩🤩
And they look even better in police livery. Swedish police uses the V90 and the V90 CC in D5 spec.
I have a V90 Cross Country D5. Wish you guys could get the diesel. It pulls like a train
yeah, no diesels in the US, especially after the VAG fiasco.
I drive a v90 T4 Momentum (turbo petrol, entry level) here in the UK. It's a family car. Shift points are irrelevant when everyone around here does 5-10 MPH under the speed limit wherever they go, the roads aren't wide enough for two cars to pass each other safely, and every street is constantly choked with traffic. It feels like the QE2. The brilliant infotainment, adaptive cruise control/braking, build quality, and ride comfort are the real selling points. Forget dynamic mode, especially when petrol is $7.15/gal. Just leave it in eco and take advantage of the freewheeling functionality.
Beautiful design.
Daaam matt looking slimmer! 👌
I wonder if tuners will pulley down up the boost, and then use a little bigger turbo, up the boost add a little more fuel and... see what it does,.. personally I wouldn't waste the time and money I would drive it as well maybe.. great content as always!!
Ipd is probably on it
Volvo needs to send you “Polestar Tuned” models to compare to the stock tuning. Would love to see your reaction and especially after driving the stock tune.
Yes my V90 has Polestar tuning, worth every cent!
I like it but if I were going to spend 60k or more on a wagon,it would have to be the new Audi RS6. That car is sooo badass!!👌🏽
Wayne Carini found Paul Newman's type R wagon and I remember thinking I'd drive that looks good low and green ....
Damn thats a really nice road
The Cross Country version of this V90 sort of seems more appealing, for the way this car would be driven 98% of time by it's owners. It's certainly a car most people that are looking into SUVs should really consider
Matt seemed a bit disappointed in the actual 0-60 time, however said it's relatively quick. Pretty crazy though that 5 and a half seconds to 60 doesn't sound quick in your family hauler station wagon.
Very beautiful exterior.
"Get in second gear!"
"Why did you upshift there?!"
"What if I change the mode..."
...Conversations guys have with their automatics on a daily basis... And somehow there are still people who pretend that auto is fine.
CasterTown autos are fine. This one just sucks lol.
CasterTown that’s why everything needs a CVT
It’s a family hauler not a sports car. Automatics are perfectly serviceable for nearly all intended uses.
ervin nothing more boring rubbery junk than a CVT, nobody has fun with that. give me a decent DCT or just a simple manual
@@ervin7178 Wtf is wrong with you
if they give you a V90 Polestar I'd really like to see if that deals with the transmission not letting you stay in the right RPM in the corners
Saw JRE podcast with Greg Fitzsimmons on the Volvo playlist. My Man.
Sounds cool
Once again- Gorgeous car, if it had a more engaging powertrain and wasn't Chinese owned now I might consider it as a daily.
Neat so you have good head clearance and composed wheel base and width for a stable drive. they used to share an engine w fords familys jaguars 4.2 that was some pep. [sound damping quiets you in that]
Ford and Volvo used same inline 5.
But Volvo V8 is not the same as Jag.
I have a 2019 V60 T6 R - The transmission is the worst thing on this car, its really just programing and I'm sure they could fix it if they wanted too...I see you had the same frustration with it. Other than that it's a decent family estate.
The Polestar Engineered tuning from the dealer might help and update your transmission’s software!
The Polestar tune makes a huge difference. While still not perfect, it really improves the way the transmission behaves and makes the car a lot more responsive and fun to drive. I drove a non-Polestar Package V90 R-Design back to back with a Polestar Pack-equipped R-Design V90 (no other differences between the two, both T6 AWD cars on 19" wheels and steel springs) and the difference was a lot bigger than I expected.
@@SegerGiesbers Mines already Polestar Engineered....so no same deal its really just not a great transmission, they should have put the ZF in it.
Adam Crain I know what you mean! But I meant more like Mark is saying. It improves the standard box
The gearbox is the same Aisin unit as 4-cylinder Camry. What do you expect?
Living in Europe for a few years now has taught me that SUVs are completely overhyped/overrated. More of these wagons need to be sold in the US. BTW - Nice Seiko Turtle
James Carter - agree on both counts re: car and watch 👍🏼
I love these elegant wagons. Too bad, It's mostly about the SUV in the US market.
Nice car!!! Nice interior!!!!@
Nice Seiko Matt
I feel like this car has a lot of tuning potential if we can find a way to work with the complex twincharging system
Yep. I have an S90 T6 Inscription now and am working with Burger to develop a JB4 for the car. I have the first working one on mine right now. It hauls ass, and we're finding out a lot with these logs. :)
@@DivaniKingston Bro, you have to make a video once its finished!
I wonder if a tune could fix that downshift lag? Like, BMW has xHP for ZF stuff right? Like I think a solid remap could sort that out and frankly, that’d be a small price to pay for the package as a whole.
Matt - the kind of guy trying to drive sporty in a V90, not realizing he's the only one who will ever redline a V90 :P As a Swede I think they will mostly drive around at 10 km/h below the speed limit while still brakeing at speed cameras :P Like all other Volvos. :P
People in the USA and I guess North America are nuts to prefer an xc90 or xc60 over this beautiful wagon and the equally beautiful v60. It's just nuts. Volvo wagons used to be very popular all over the USA when they weren't that stylish. They work great. Volvo has put enough performance into these cars for the everyday driver, the interior is fantastic, the comfort and the usability, the styling is gorgeous, yet the roads are full of xc90s and xc60s. The SUVs are nice but not everyone needs one. I go literally months without seeing a current Volvo wagon though I see a good amount of older ones. Buy wagons again, America.
Ваши слова на вес золота. Все помешались на кроссоверах. Им надоели универсал, седан. Видимо потому,что в Америке много крупного населения.
Once you crest $60k a 4 banger is a tough pill to swallow. However, they did such an amazing job on the design that I think I can probably look past it.
Does Volvo still make 5 cylinder engines? I used to have a S60 2.5T and I absolutely loved that car!
No.
They streamlined their engine line to just one 2.0 4 cylinder to hold them over until electric is mainstream. They add supercharging or hybridization to it when they want more power
@@karbuckle8294 in fact in EU they have also 3 cylinder engine. 1.5T.
They stopped making 5 and 6 cylinder engines about 4 years ago.
cool reveiw sir How since you are volvo roll v60 r-design t6 awd samme car but only v60 size
You need this baby in passion red.
That's so weird, in my dad's old XC90, it won't upshift at redline in manual mode, it went straight through the redline to fuel cutoff at 6500rpm and just stayed there in gear
Sounds like the trans solenoid, or valvebody is damaged.
As far as I know, we (in the United Sates) don’t get the V90 with the T8 powertrain for whatever reason. Can’t find it anywhere on the Volvo website but I was told by a dealer that’s generally pretty uninformed that it is available. Anybody else know?
I’ve been thinking about the v90 cross country model
Something about a super charger and turbo charger on such a small engine make me think its not a 300k mile power train with out lots of $$$ to keep it running. I wish it just had a turbo straight 6, I want a wagon badly... but no one makes a good one worth the money.
I'm actually looking for a fast-ish wagon (need car seat space). What's your pick between Polestar V60 and V90? In end both right about $67k. Love the sportiness of V60 but if it doesn't drive that way, what's the point?
the names correspond to the texas instrument calculators that is running the car
Is the cross country version of this wagon floatier? Does it trade the handling for comfort and ground clearance?
I own a Cross Country and it is floatier and rolls a bit. That said, it is super comfortable and gives you lots of feel if you drive enthusiastically down a twisty road.
Nice watch. Gold Seiko?
You can get a Polestar tuned from the dealer for $1,200. It will liven that trans and engine right up.
oh they depreciate just fine lmao. I priced out one for around 67k recently and can find similar optioned ones pre owned for around 40k with anywhere between 14k and 35k miles
Imagine a V60 Polestar but with this engine tuned to like 350hp and lightened to like 3700-3800lbs and none of that electric ballast
@@odiespankers07 i test drove a 2015 V60 Polestar it was used and decent price, definitely a great car but i think felt heavier than 3500-3800 lbs..
@@odiespankers07 well yea I know that existed, but I meant on the new generation.
The T8 is too heavy and bulky, like said in the video, it doesn't feel sporty the same way even a normal T6 R line does.
“It’s not as long as it looks, but it is big”
Most used sales pitch ever
God I miss driving these roads.