Advice for young people: Read dangerous books | Douglas Murray and Lex Fridman
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Omw to read Mein Kampf on the train and shake my head so people know I disagree
"No, no, Hitler, that's not quite right."
LOL
@@bowmanencore This comment is killing me
Gold.
Good plan 😅
The first book that shook me to the core was 1984. The concept of doublethink was so hard to comprehend to me.
Is that the one with a wonder woman in it?
You should read “Amusing Ourselves to death” by Neil Postman. Its a good follow up to 1984
@@Josh-sj9ig I think you downloaded I mean bought the wrong 1984
@@richardwalcott6373 sure, thanks
@@Josh-sj9ig no Wonder Woman was in Animal Farm.
When Douglas said: I discovered books can be dangerous and I loved it. I had the exact same experience half a world away in Australia! That really resonated with me. Great Interview Lex!
G'day
what book did he said ?
Douglas Murray’s voice is mesmerizing. I think I would fall sound asleep listening to an audiobook of his work if it was read by him.
His audio books are angry in tone. It actually grates on you after a while. Gold content but non-stop negative and the tone of his voice is angry rather than putting to sleep.
@@Marrow9000 not necessarily true, Madness of Crowds was fun with audio version. His writing is also witty and humorous. So while some of it gets serious, the anger isn't prevalent in such a serious tone throughout. And as he comes to the point of Gratitude in his latest book, it's also hopeful and soothing.
His voice is due to artificial testosterone ask him it wasn’t like that before testosterone, while Lex voice is calm could put you to sleep.
@@Marrow9000 war on the west was read a little angrily when imitating what the woke figures were saying, but I didn't find it that off putting. and often times that is actually how they talk haha, they definitely have an aggressive, angry way of talking
While I agree 100% that reading and educating oneself is important, it also seems to be a problem with young people. They read books on philosophy and politics, then cling to one of those philosophies and espouse it everywhere they go without ever going out into the world and actually living real life. Keep educating yourself, but living dangerously is far more beneficial now. I don’t mean literal danger, I mean do things that make you struggle. For some, it’s simply moving out of your parents house and supporting yourself.
It was always like that. Most people only want to hear their own opinions but given to them by someone more articulate than themselves.
I’ve been thinking about this concept quite a bit lately. Great comment
We need more creatives and engineers who read philosophy, to breed more critical creators.
No, that’s only with Ayn Rand. 🤣
I think a lot of young people also claim to have read those kinds of books but actually just own them and have read a brief summary online.
I wouldn't say I'm a big writer or story reader, yet I understand those moments and experiences where you write something so clearly and fruitfully that when you read over it, it blows you away. It's like making something with your hands with excellence except this is in words.
If you're reading this, give Stoner by John Williams a go. Truly mesmerizing and a great work of literature with writing like no other. An easy read but beautiful in all aspects and quite an emotional journey
Sounds cool. I'm gonna put that on my list.
I found it so boring. I'm sorry, I know its a classic but..
Let's add that it's an interesting read for someone who wants to know about a man, coming from poor cirumstances, and starts loving the academic world and has a deep love for books. His wife is a nag and makes their life somewhat miserable. He lives through this. Somehow. Yes. Not much happens in the book but it was very interesting. The book should be read when one wants a slice of life type of read
@@MIOLAZARUS Me too... I couldn't understand how people keep saying that's a 5 stars book... It's poorly written fiction and the whole concept is boring as hell...language is awfully pain...if you tell me that came from a teenage writer I wouldn't doubt it...
@@user-wy1nv8uf1z I dont know anything about that, but I understood that its a classic because it is boring and maybe thats many lives.
I understood that I never wanted to live a life that would generate such a boring book XD Hahaha.
When you read a book, you get all the ideas and wisdom from another person life.
You get their story, and all their best most valuable thoughts into one piece.
Just read something that makes your brain feel like it’s whirring and buzzing and makes time ripple. I live by the 5 page rule, you’ll know by the first 3-5 pages if the type is worth the ink.
That's a great rule!
I'll know in a month when I reach page 3 of that German philosophy book
@@withnail-and-i That sounds about right
Some of don’t know of any great books, names porfavor
@@supremegaming3623 The miracle of fasting is a great one!
“One flew over the Cuckoo’s Nest” was mind blowing to me and it still throws me when I read it now.
Excellent movie as well
Lately, I choose books by the author's voice. If the author has a distinct way of expressing themselves, I will want to know what they have to say. This usually works in fiction but I found the same thing in nonfiction books too. I read a lot of history and when I read The Poison King about Mithridates of Pontos, I noticed how hesitating the author sounds. Because a lot of Mithridates' life is unknown, she had to imagine what came in between. Kind of weird to do it in a history book and it stuck with me.
The best beginning of a nonfiction book ever was in a book about the Persian Empire. The very first sentence: "When Cyrus entered Babylon, the world was old."
Which book was it. The Persian Empire one?
@@Ak-yw9kf History of the Persian Empire, A.T. Olmstead
I’ve recently cut down on TV, social media, and video games quite a bit and replaced the majority of my free time with reading, and have been astonished these past couple of months on how much my mind has grown, my vocabulary has expanded greatly, and In general my life feels richer, my reading comprehension has also vastly improved. I’m being exposed to ideas in much richer detail. Such a wonderment that we can literally read the minds of some of the most interesting people in history! Not everyone’s going to be a reader, but If you do have the interest, put down the technology for a bit and dive into a good book! You won’t regret it!
Any Dostoyevsky fans? He does it for me
🤘
Currently reading "The Brother's Karamazov"
@@gurashishsingh7813 nice! I like Alyosha and Kyola the best. Check out the Idiot too that one is my favorite
Hell yeahh C&P, The Brothers Karamazov, The Idiot
Yep he is the one for many.
For me, a shocking moment like he described came from a video game - Final Fantasy Tactics for PS1. I couldn't believe what was happening, the tragedy, the realization that even if you aim to do good, you might not succeed; and even if you succeed to some degree, you may be forgotten, your deeds disassociated from your person. It felt very far removed from the save-the-girl types of games that tended to end with a kiss or what have you.
Same. Mine came from Busby 3D. Very dangerous.
Same, my moment came from Croc 🐊
@@Josh-sj9ig LMFAO Peed myself a little when I read that.
Tales of Symphonia where the devices that allow people to act with superhuman power comes from trapping the souls of the poor in orbs.
1984 and the catcher in the rye changed my life
I'm not knocking those books, but they're overshadowed in my mind by relatively humble works, like 'Stranger in a Strange Land', 'Toilers of the Sea', 'Count of Monte Cristo', and 'Breakfast of Champions'.
These books encounter that same pessimism the books you listed have, but they break through it.
Lord of the flies.
You should read “Amusing Ourselves to death” by Neil Postman. Its a good follow up to 1984
This is great advice for everyone. Aldous Huxley, George Orwell and Terence Mckenna are some of my favorite dangerous authors ;)
@Tony Hahahahaha 😂
"WE READ TO BECOME OTHER PEOPLE." - great line
I strongly recommend for every man watching this, to read "Sperm Wars" by Robin Baker, and "The Evolution of Desire" by David Buss
Those 2 will clear the clutter of most of the doubts men have revolving women (which is something that most of us waste a lot of time thinking about)
Sperm Wars also debunks the idea of the one sperm winning the race and all the evolutionary nonsense about relationships.
I read a few books by Tiziano Terzani who led a life traveling through Asia, Russia ( when Lenin crashed down) He wrote beautifully about jobs in Bangkok called body snatchers and how they wait for fatal accidents on the freeways to retrieve the bodies and perform ceremonies so the soul left and didn't stay and play tricks on the living They would then get donations from the families. It is very competitive and it's for different Buddhist sects.
I like reading about investigative journalism and learning about stuff I don't hear about on the news.
The real world is very interesting and cultural differences are sometimes invisible to the regular tourist.
I also like Twain's autobiographical works like Roughing It when he told the story of the mountain meadow massacre orchestrated by the Mormons for revenge.
The stories of the Brigham Young are mind blowing. The story of traveling in a stage coach , the stops, changing the horses, stuff we really don't think about.
4:43 Exactly why books are amazing!
I remember 'Lord of the Flies' from school too, and Animal Farm. But Lord of the Flies had a part in it that I remember clearly more than anything else. It was one boy that wanted to hurt another boy and he couldn't or wouldn't. It was though the boy had an aura about him. Or maybe it was described as a glory. Some psychological... an unseen protection that surround the boy. At least at that point in the story and then things descend into the law of the jungle and innocents was lost forever. At that point for me, nothing could ever be the same again. The world wasn't a different place. I was just seeing it as it really is for the first time.
Animal farm is so powerful and profound for such a short and simple story 👏🏻 so good.
One day Lex will live his true passion as a TikTok boy and hit the meanest renegade you’ve ever seen.
ruclips.net/video/X9iKKHUdXBY/видео.html
If that happens then I’m definitely the next Putin
I’ll be the next Lego superstar
@@samm367 ruclips.net/video/mzB1VGEGcSU/видео.html
Intro to Understanding Power:
"The Prince" - Machiavelli, "The Art of War" - Sun Tzu, & "The 48 Laws of Power" - Robert Greene
You'll never see the world the same again ...
what else
@@arianaventi6299 The Rational Male - Rollo Tomassi (for power in relation to intergender dynamics), The Power of the Subconscious Mind - Joseph Murphy (to unlock your subconscious power), and The Kyballion - The Three Initiates (for univeral laws you must obey to achieve power).
@@jamalmaroon Thank you 🙏🙏
@@arianaventi6299 no problem. Blessings on your path 🙏🏽
All these books are for low-level readers…they are good if you are 12 or 13. If you are a grown man, you don’t read The Prince, you read the Discourses on Livy. You don’t read The Art of War by Sun Tzu, you read The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.
Until the age of 12-13 I read only the books we were told to read at school for classes or just some detective and fantasy books my parents had at home library. And then i came across "clockwork orange", book so different from the things i'd read before that i perceived reading it to be something bad. I finished it in a day but I had no one to discuss it with, had to keep it to myself. Seeking more of that I read Welsh, Kafka and it was another turning-point experience
Dubliners by James Joyce. I still find some of those short stories unsettling. They really cut to the bone at times. Yet Joyce is do delicately skilled in the way he does it.
Douglas Murray is one of my favorites
Constantly break your ego. Try new things that make you realize your place on life. Knowing where you are is the only way to get where you wanna get.
“The Final Theory: Rethinking Our Scientific Legacy “, Mark McCutcheon. “The Unique and Its Property “, Max Stirner,1844/2017 Landstreicher translation. “The Bible Came from Arabia “, Kamal Salibi plus his 3 other bible study books. “No Treason: the Constitution of no Authority “, 1,2 and 6,Lysander Spooner, 1867-1870.
Deadkidssongs is my favourite novel. If you’re into dark and disturbing set in idyllic and normal then holy sheets that book is the one. Four 70s middle England children, one dies, the other three get revenge.
My favourite non-fiction I’ve read just recently is The Glucose Revolution. Jessie Inchaupse compiling research to show how simply changing the order of the food you eat, greens then protein/fat then carbs, will reduce ageing, reduce fat stores, keep you alert and help prevent age related illnesses. That’s an eye-opener.
Im skeptical that thats really true, but ill look into it
@@weilzudope skepticism is a healthy starting point. She wore a constant glucose monitor and she’s got data showing how her own blood glucose spikes where drastically reduced. She then has studies of groups where people literally just changed the order of the food they ate and they lost weight. I’ve been doing it, not because I need to lose weight but to stop the glucose spikes which are poison to our cells. I do feel great, but I generally do.
@@weilzudope did you look into it?
"TO A POET A THOUSAND YEARS HENCE"
I who am dead a thousand years,
And wrote this sweet archaic song,
Send you my words for messengers
The way I shall not pass along.
I care not if you bridge the seas,
Or ride secure the cruel sky,
Or build consummate palaces
Of metal or of masonry.
But have you wine and music still,
And statues and a bright-eyed love,
And foolish thoughts of good and ill,
And prayers to them who sit above?
How shall we conquer? Like a wind
That falls at eve our fancies blow,
And old Maeonides the blind
Said it three thousand years ago.
O friend unseen, unborn, unknown,
Student of our sweet English tongue,
Read out my words at night, alone:
I was a poet, I was young.
Since I can never see your face,
And never shake you by the hand,
I send my soul through time and space
To greet you. You will understand.
By James Elroy Flecker (1884-1915).
I use to think Douglas was a sharp good run of the mill, IDW type but nowadays my respect for his writing, thinking, and opinions overall has gone thru the roof. The man is a conservative, slightly less cantankerous version of Hitchens. Although it may not be wise to compare a one of one like Hitchens to anybody else.
Douglas himself is a 1 of 1
yeah he seems pretty grounded and reasonable which is rare in today's world
the lack of the physical present of paper books in the public eye removes it from the public mind. Kindle does not encourage one to pickup a book or create interest in the reader or the text. A book is an invitation to an question, it is social in nature.
Read 200 years together. History rhymes.
Carl Jung shook me to the core. Never been the same since.
Him and Nietzsche are just mind blowing.
Frederick is amazing, but he requires a deep understanding of Greek philosophy and Christianity as a basic pre-requisite to understand his writing
Anthony Burgess, and even Vonnegut seem innocuous, but are simply destructive in way they spotlight how Strapped to our Nature we are while Chasing our Perceptions of Ourselves, inevitably becoming awkward chaos
Foundation (1st book) by Asimov...I was like "how fuck did he come up with these ideas in 1951?!"
Great clip, I love that lex never attempts to interrupt.
I'm reading "Democracy, The God That Failed" right now. Crazy read...
I’d forgotten about this book. Had it on my list for a while. Have you read Christians Against Christianity?
If you like Democracy, The God That Failed, then you must read Liberty: The God that Failed.
@@Theactivepsychos I wanted to say thank you for the book suggestion. I've been searching for something like Christians against Christianity for the longest time, almost unbeknownst to myself. Sometimes I feel like a liberal drowning among conservative Christians. Even though deep down I've always thought something was wrong with the Evangelical message especially their views about LGTBQ people. Thanks again Will.
@@willnorris2339 it must be insanely tough to be anything but a straight person in American Christianity. So many stories of the most disgraceful behaviour. If you’ve ever listened to The Atheist Experience then you get to hear hundreds of experiences of gay or trans Christian’s every year. I’m sure Jesus would have been on the pride marches and the anti capitalist ones too!
@@Theactivepsychos I completely agree. TBH I'm a straight Irish man but years ago when I was a right wing evangelical I slowly began to listen to people instead of preaching at them. Some of those people were Irish LGBTQ people who had horrific experiences with Evangelicalism. Listen to them was an honor although it destroyed my faith in the church. Not in Jesus though. I will always believe in a God who accepts and loves EVERYONE equally. Thanks again, I really needed this books encouragement. Its like an oasis in the desert to me.
You can travel the edges of the universe... From mitzvahs to distopian worlds, fight club to box cart kids.. our redeeming and more terrifying attributes, is our ability to articulate, grammatically paint a canvas, and project our imagination on others.
Awesome talk. When i was young i re-read a few of the classics cause we were poor and didnt have many, and in early teens started going to used bookstores and getting anything. I'd recommend that too, you get any sort of random thing.
I love reading manuals, I'm a dangerous fixer 😂
You're a handy man and you didn't even know it ... 🤠
I read them after I install something just to see what I missed.
The quilted quicker fixer upper!
That kinda of book catch my attention, its like: "I need it, so i'll read it"
I've read "How to make friends", the title was different but i forget, remember me now of "How to make friends and influence people", but wasnt this, was a little book, short with less than 150 Page, green front and back, i read it in 2-3 days, and i do not used to read at that time, i kept the book left-side my bed and always i would read again the chapters i need to remember, to apply
So grateful you have these wonderful conversations with such deeply interesting people. Something very happy about it and soothing.
Books are a treasure. You get to know more about yourself in the world through reading fiction than almost any other source of material. It is unfortunate that reading is under appreciated in this day and aged. Most children have succumbed to the mind numbing influence of streaming
I liked reading the gunslinger, it was a step up from the nancy drew series 😂
That whole series was a trip
What's book?
Oh yes, I love this discussion!
Bro when he said dangerous books the first book I thought of was doors of perception then it literally popped up on the screen swear to god that book gave me psychosis
In that case: "Where Did the Towers Go?" by Judy Wood. A lot of people think it is an opinion book, but it is not. It is a revelation of many true documented observations, painful because they are undeniable.
Happy in writing I understand you
The Brothers Karamazov.
can i get a list of other dangerous books that will teach me a lot? I've read 1984, animal farm, lord of the flies, etc..
Food of the Gods by Terence Mckenna
This might now be my favorite take on writing 👍 love it
Ernest becker the denial of did it for me
Just finished Arkady and Boris Strugatsky's The Doomed City. Fantastically relevant
Interested first book
I 100% agree. I just finished state and Revolution by Lenin. Starting Dialectical and Historical Materialism by Joseph Stalin soon.
Comrade, to complete the red trifecta you simply have to get some Leon Trotsky in there too.
I'd just start with "read" first, that's the first hurdle.
What is a dangerous book?? Why are people afraid to sit and think upon issues…really think and contemplate… we are being constantly programmed…..
The only book that will constantly push you to think is the Qur'an, the words of The One True God, Allah. He created the mind, only He knows what it really is capable of. And verily in His remembrance, do hearts find rest,peace and tranquility ♡
When I read it, it shook me to the core. My body and spirit was trembling in fear and awe...
@@ferdinandjr.sunico1029 it has become my sub purpose, to learn more about what He told us; it's a letter sent to us by The One who loves us more than anyone. Why are we so heedless about our Maker, The Most Generous? Sometimes I can't do everything on my own, I search for the explanation by Nouman Ali Khan on RUclips or watch Fahd Al Kandari's videos on Qur'an or the reverts. It makes me embrace gratitude at a completely angle. To be blessed with authentic Islam is not a small blessing. To guard our faith until death is part of the mission. And knowledge is the way to overcome doubts.
Do you know Douglas Murray’s views on the Quran?
RUclips saved me. When I try and read, I'll get about a paragraph in before my mind shoots off in 10 directions relating to the information in the four sentences I just read (maybe even just a few words), by the time I get back to reality a half hour has gone by. I need the visual to keep me focused. If you can read like a normal person, don't take it for granted.
Reading is like going to the gym for the mind, if you're not used to it you won't be able to do much. Train the mind, read regularly and you will be able to concentrate for longer periods.
This sounds more like an attention span problem and if that's the case RUclips is doing more harm than good
Read something written before 1950 To see what a book that took 20 year,at least, to write looks like
The book that made me feel like that was “brave new world”
One day I am going to be too old for these videos sadly.
To be fair, I read the entirety of Huxley's Doors of Perception through TikToks
Isnt it like 15$ on amazon?
Visionary
"Morals and Dogma" by Albert Pike was very revealing. Although when it comes to Masonic literature I preferred Manly P. Hall's "Secret Teaching of All Ages". Not a Mason myself, but those were two very interesting books from two very high level Masons
Anyone knows about the thumbnail image. Never seen such a beautiful thinking.
1970s controversial books were kept out of school system in my burb. Personally if these books had been school I would not have felt like a rebel sneaking over to the public library. Thank you Kurt Vonnegut. My 2 cents POV
Dangerous books? Really "dangerous books" are various classics 2000-2500 years old. Read that, and not a popular crap which is waste of anybody's time. If you are into more contemporary popular books, read Jacques Barzun, Ricardo Duquesne, Jared Taylor, Stanislaw Lem (Summa), Paul Gottfried, Charles Murray (Human Accomplishment,...), Leszek Kolakowski,..
cool conversation here
This guy is terrifically British. Is he the queens brother? Haha
Oh yes, books are extremely dangerous, they challenge you to think outside of the framework that you've been brought up in. It makes you see reality for what it is, once you obtain this knowledge there is no way back and your thirst for new knowledge will only grow stronger! This is healthy and this process is called growing up, don't let anyone tell you otherwise!
If? u watch the shawshank redemption or Hannibal Lector movies...., u know this already haha, but yes yer correct.
I, for one, could never maintain a conversation for this long without accidentally saying the n-word. Well done, good sir!
DON’T read the end of alice by am holmes
That sht traumatized me
Downloading it now hehe
@@ultralyrics1 is it good
Any dangerous book list !
The Strange Death of Europe should be required literature for every current European politician, preferably every citizen
Anybody have book recommendations?
Ngl this is one of my Favourite videos on the platform.
Yes!
Where can I find banned books? Asking for my friend, of course
Book recommendations?
“Read dangerous Books” with a thumbnail that says “Read books Dangerously”
I read whilst driving, that’s pretty dangerous I think..
Hello people in this comments section, I hope you can leave here a few of the most impactful books you've read for me and for everyone else.
Mark Twain. We 3 girls would run around pretending to be Tom Sawyer & Huck Finn trying to reenact adventures. No one wanted to be Becky Thatcher
Biocentrism: How Life and Consciousness are the Keys to Understanding the True Nature of the Universe
Book by Bob Berman and Robert Lanza
is a recommendation of mine. given the past series of discussions.
When did deranged spree shooters stop carrying copies of Catcher in the Rye, btw? That used to be a thing.
been there, done that...... my high school professor told me the same thing...... the problem was, that he was jewish and the book was "Mein Kampf"
Writing can be a collaborative effort between Creator and the created merging hearts and spirits with pen and paper.
Brave New World
was my
Lord Of the Flies
I actually read Lord Of the Flies at school, but I was too young to fully understand it.
Learning how to learn - Idries Shah
Well to recommend something, tobacco by dimitar dimov. It has very deep look on the way a society and the human soul works.
I never found books to be that dangerous or secretive. By the time a book is available to read, it has been vetted by publishers, distributors, book stores and popular opinion. I prefer the raw ideas directly from a wide variety of people. I think the internet provides much more diversity of thought. I want to read what most people don't know and what those big publishers would rather not sell. The danger of this is of course misinformation. You have to be able to think for yourself and sort the plausible from the nonsense. What most people don't realize is that the published works are full of nonsense too. It's just the nonsense that they all agree they want you to believe.
Self-published books are not necessarily vetoed...
The problem with the internet is that ideas have to be summarised to short, easily read paragraphs, which does these ideas a disservice. Otherwise people don’t continue the conversation. Also a lot of platforms don’t allow diversity of thought, either through moderators or hive mind.
@@wazzlopiok240 that depends on the source. There are plenty if long form discussions on the internet. Lex puts out these clips, but also does a complete interview. You can watch either. I don't care to read 500 pages of fiction and metaphore to get to the meaning an author wants to share. It is also opent to interpretation. Different people who read the same book often argue about its meaning. I prefer when someone just asks someone else their opinion and they reveal it.
@@michaellowe3665 ah that makes sense. I thought you were referring to having “discussions” on Twitter or reddit. Yeah in enjoy these longer conversations and interviews as well.
the first book to shock me at my 1980s surrey prep school was 'Kes.' it was just so offensively northern and working class. 'hand off cocks, on socks!'
Fiction>Self Help.
Some one who has time, can you go through the comments and consolidate a list of all the badass books.
I have time but I'm lazy 🦥.
Would anyone of you guys suggest to me a dangerous book I will be very thankful .
Mindfulness books like 30 Days to Reduce Stress by Harper Daniels are short and powerful.
Cs is a great company
The art of filling air with sound
I discovered books could be dangerous when I read, “This Perfect Day” by Aldous Huxley.