Great advice for anyone whos not been into bikes for too long... All i would have added is to aviod dealers trying to get virtually new bike prices for ex demo bikes that have been thrashed by numerous people instead of being run in correctly. Thats just a personal gripe i have so maybe its just me ! Great video Mark, thank you.
I have mentioned this in previous videos. If it has a main stand make sure you have the strength to put in on the main stand yourself. If you have a steep driveway and a garage make sure you have enough space in your garage to turn your bike around. Cheers Mark.
Very good advise. If its private one might also first evaluate the character of the owner and go with or not the statements of the seller. It's nice to know what they experienced and also maintenance details. I suspect laws may protect the buyer if verbal statements don't prove to be truthful.
I was watching this and said self, this guy is pre-tripping a truck! Don't need to watch. I do that all the time. But then it got better. Kept watching and watched it all!......Thanks.
Super video and sound advice for all buyers to beware as there's some real lemons out there. Maybe the suggestion should also be; if working with a tight budget then buy the best example of an older model rather than a bad example of a newer bike! Best Regards, Twisty Road Rider
I'm ashamed to admit that I've been stitched up 3 times with faulty machines over many years of buying bikes. On these occasions I haddecided I wanted the bikes at first sight because of the apparent good condition. Always ride it first. Ecu engine problems can be uneconomical to fix. So many people are prepared to pass on a lemon without conscience issues. I bought a bike from a large national dealer once; they told me it wasn't faulty when it left their premises but that I could trade it in against something else at trade money i.e. They'd give me peanuts for it!! Bastards out there!! Never buy on spec and have it delivered from miles away.
You have more comeback if you buy from a dealer. Doesn't mean bikes have been looked after any better or indeed serviced better than a private sale bike where an owner may have been meticulous in maintaining their bike particularly if the bike is just out of warranty and their pride and joy. IME a service book that has more main dealer stamps than you could shake a stick is dubious. I bought my Triumph Sprint 1050 '08 "low mileage" one owner from a Honda dealer at the other end of the UK over the phone. They said it was immaculate bar a tiny chip to the tank which it was. When I checked the oil after I got it I was shocked as it was knackered black, the coolant was like thick black coffee, the brake fluid was like dark treacle and the air filter had a collection of leaves, flies, moths and spiders on it the natural history museum would have been interested in. The filter was filthy black, had never ever been changed in the 7k miles it had done. So with all the fluids changed new filters, new brake pads front and rear, the bike felt so much better. I would rather buy from a private seller who has meticulously maintained their bike as you can see the bike has been looked after and meet the owner. At least you then know the servicing has actually been done and not just a tick box exercise by a dealer charging hundreds and hundreds of pounds for basically doing nothing. The only problem with buying or selling privately is the issue of the test ride which is necessary. No one wants to drop a bike that isn't yours or indeed let some numptee on it who is going to stuff it through a hedge into a field or hit another vehicle. If selling privately I would take a picture of the potential buyer as well just in case they were thinking of doing anything dodgy. I would also like to see their driving license and if they have a clean license. If not they would not be getting on my bike. Tough. Also other forms of id. Full asking price in my hand or in my bank account. If some one is genuine it shouldn't be a problem. There are too many fraudsters and rip off merchants out there which is why buying from a dealer is just easier. Not to say there are dodgy bike shops as well. Also if buying from a dealer put some or all of the purchase on your credit card (over £100) then you are covered by s.75 of the Consumer Credit Act which means you can enforce your statutory rights against your card provider if you have a problem with the dealer. Unlikely but it can happen. Just another layer of insurance/peace of mind. But first thing you do on your test ride before you even get moving is make sure the brakes work properly and even when you've started it up and are moving off slowly try the brakes front and rear to make sure they work properly. Also doing this you will immediately see if the forks are twisted. As you say if you're not sure take some one along who knows about bikes. Thanks for making this vid. There are very few out there. Bar ends, levers and edges of mirrors are a good sign if a bike has been dropped although they can be replaced. Generally if some one hasn't looked after or cared for their bike or is a crap rider they won't bother replacing them or only say the levers as the cost will mount and they won't want to spend the cash. Also if the bike is faired check that the paint from each various panel matches as much cheaper Chinese copies of OEM fairings are available.
A good dealer should fix all these things unless it’s a trade sale. Some of these trade sales with no warranty they are asking full retail price not trade price. Some dealers hype the price of their bike and offer lower than trade for your bike, haggle!
Good Advice Mark I couldn’t wait for you to sell me that cbr600 🤪 so I’ve bought a VFR800 vtec for winter use.🏍 keep em coming, most enjoyable to watch. Take care.
Will be selling my honda cbf125 2015 4.2k miles on it for 1200. I think this is very generous considering how much others are selling them for. Time for an upgrade.
I've been looking around at a few with the same sort of mileage most seem to be around £6k mark. Need to have a test ride of one. How hard is it to get it onto the centre stand?
I have found a 13 plate with 33k full dealer service history £700 less than I was expecting to pay. Agreed on a px price for my bike so just waiting for a break in this lockdown to go and pick it up.
Love your videos sir, please move the mic away from the face a bit. Don't need to hear you swallowing and breathing etc. Sorry. Trying to make you better.
Great advice for anyone whos not been into bikes for too long... All i would have added is to aviod dealers trying to get virtually new bike prices for ex demo bikes that have been thrashed by numerous people instead of being run in correctly. Thats just a personal gripe i have so maybe its just me ! Great video Mark, thank you.
Thanks again Dave ! :)
I have mentioned this in previous videos. If it has a main stand make sure you have the strength to put in on the main stand yourself. If you have a steep driveway and a garage make sure you have enough space in your garage to turn your bike around. Cheers Mark.
Very good advise. If its private one might also first evaluate the character of the owner and go with or not the statements of the seller. It's nice to know what they experienced and also maintenance details. I suspect laws may protect the buyer if verbal statements don't prove to be truthful.
Great advice Mark it's good of you to throw a keen eye our way. Cheers and keep them coming.
I was watching this and said self, this guy is pre-tripping a truck! Don't need to watch. I do that all the time.
But then it got better. Kept watching and watched it all!......Thanks.
Super video and sound advice for all buyers to beware as there's some real lemons out there. Maybe the suggestion should also be; if working with a tight budget then buy the best example of an older model rather than a bad example of a newer bike!
Best Regards,
Twisty Road Rider
I'm ashamed to admit that I've been stitched up 3 times with faulty machines over many years of buying bikes. On these occasions I haddecided I wanted the bikes at first sight because of the apparent good condition. Always ride it first. Ecu engine problems can be uneconomical to fix. So many people are prepared to pass on a lemon without conscience issues. I bought a bike from a large national dealer once; they told me it wasn't faulty when it left their premises but that I could trade it in against something else at trade money i.e. They'd give me peanuts for it!! Bastards out there!! Never buy on spec and have it delivered from miles away.
Nice video Mark, some good advice for the less experienced, keep them coming 😊
Great thanks :)
You have more comeback if you buy from a dealer. Doesn't mean bikes have been looked after any better or indeed serviced better than a private sale bike where an owner may have been meticulous in maintaining their bike particularly if the bike is just out of warranty and their pride and joy. IME a service book that has more main dealer stamps than you could shake a stick is dubious. I bought my Triumph Sprint 1050 '08 "low mileage" one owner from a Honda dealer at the other end of the UK over the phone. They said it was immaculate bar a tiny chip to the tank which it was. When I checked the oil after I got it I was shocked as it was knackered black, the coolant was like thick black coffee, the brake fluid was like dark treacle and the air filter had a collection of leaves, flies, moths and spiders on it the natural history museum would have been interested in. The filter was filthy black, had never ever been changed in the 7k miles it had done. So with all the fluids changed new filters, new brake pads front and rear, the bike felt so much better. I would rather buy from a private seller who has meticulously maintained their bike as you can see the bike has been looked after and meet the owner. At least you then know the servicing has actually been done and not just a tick box exercise by a dealer charging hundreds and hundreds of pounds for basically doing nothing. The only problem with buying or selling privately is the issue of the test ride which is necessary. No one wants to drop a bike that isn't yours or indeed let some numptee on it who is going to stuff it through a hedge into a field or hit another vehicle. If selling privately I would take a picture of the potential buyer as well just in case they were thinking of doing anything dodgy. I would also like to see their driving license and if they have a clean license. If not they would not be getting on my bike. Tough. Also other forms of id. Full asking price in my hand or in my bank account. If some one is genuine it shouldn't be a problem. There are too many fraudsters and rip off merchants out there which is why buying from a dealer is just easier. Not to say there are dodgy bike shops as well. Also if buying from a dealer put some or all of the purchase on your credit card (over £100) then you are covered by s.75 of the Consumer Credit Act which means you can enforce your statutory rights against your card provider if you have a problem with the dealer. Unlikely but it can happen. Just another layer of insurance/peace of mind. But first thing you do on your test ride before you even get moving is make sure the brakes work properly and even when you've started it up and are moving off slowly try the brakes front and rear to make sure they work properly. Also doing this you will immediately see if the forks are twisted. As you say if you're not sure take some one along who knows about bikes. Thanks for making this vid. There are very few out there. Bar ends, levers and edges of mirrors are a good sign if a bike has been dropped although they can be replaced. Generally if some one hasn't looked after or cared for their bike or is a crap rider they won't bother replacing them or only say the levers as the cost will mount and they won't want to spend the cash. Also if the bike is faired check that the paint from each various panel matches as much cheaper Chinese copies of OEM fairings are available.
Thanks Alex great reply as always :)
Great advice thanks 👍🏻
A good dealer should fix all these things unless it’s a trade sale. Some of these trade sales with no warranty they are asking full retail price not trade price. Some dealers hype the price of their bike and offer lower than trade for your bike, haggle!
Really good advice...thanks!
Glad it helped .feel free to ask anything regards mark
Good Advice Mark I couldn’t wait for you to sell me that cbr600 🤪 so I’ve bought a VFR800 vtec for winter use.🏍 keep em coming, most enjoyable to watch. Take care.
Thanks Stuart great bike the vfr :)
I always check the mot history and mileage ,another good vid mark
Make sure to tell the seller not to warm up the bike before you get there.......... you want to cold-start a bike.
Will be selling my honda cbf125 2015 4.2k miles on it for 1200. I think this is very generous considering how much others are selling them for.
Time for an upgrade.
That is very generous Tiffany ,good luck with your sale ....mark
That's the bike I want next, in that colour as well.
They are brilliant Geoff ,I love mine :)
I've been looking around at a few with the same sort of mileage most seem to be around £6k mark. Need to have a test ride of one. How hard is it to get it onto the centre stand?
Hi geoff ,i weigh 70 kg and i can get it on the centre stand with a moderate effort,so not too bad
@@markpulling12 I shouldn't have any problems there then I'm over 100 kgs lol
I have found a 13 plate with 33k full dealer service history £700 less than I was expecting to pay. Agreed on a px price for my bike so just waiting for a break in this lockdown to go and pick it up.
Luckily, I have a shop that is 1000% trustworthy.
Good stuff😎👍
Love your videos sir, please move the mic away from the face a bit. Don't need to hear you swallowing and breathing etc. Sorry. Trying to make you better.
Agreed. Voice sounds muffled on all Marks vids too.
I'd never buy a blue bike ;- )