THE TRUTH ABOUT CRAGAR WHEELS

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  • Опубликовано: 16 июл 2024
  • On this episode of Wheel History, we dig into the rich history of Cragar Wheels. We go all the way back to 1930 when they were first founded by Crane Grartz. Did you know that Cragar basically created the "deep" lip styled wheel that has taken over the scene today? Find out more as we go in-depth on Crager Wheels on this episode of Wheel History.
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  • @lazyjoes
    @lazyjoes 6 лет назад +20

    Thumbs up! I look forward to your videos every time they come out. Fitment Industries gives great content and is very informative. Plus funny I may add. You guys should get a channel on TV one of these days. Fitment Industries is a cross between History Channel and Velocity Channel! Fitment Industries will go a long way and keep up the good work! I can see it in your future!

    • @FitmentIndustries
      @FitmentIndustries  6 лет назад

      Thank you so much for the support!

    • @snoopu2601
      @snoopu2601 6 лет назад

      Joey Hernandez very educational information for car folks

  • @njords62
    @njords62 6 лет назад +18

    love the 5 spoke Crager SS - Still the best rim EVER!

    • @burntferidgerator6848
      @burntferidgerator6848 6 лет назад

      njords62 I think I have those wheels I'm not sure tho but I definitely have cragars

    • @tomasalvarez6040
      @tomasalvarez6040 Год назад

      Polished or chromed? I want 5 spoke for my 57chev, but undecided if i ahouod get chromed or not..whats you think?

  • @mrmarkthompson2361
    @mrmarkthompson2361 9 месяцев назад +1

    Great History Of CRAGAR Company. As a teenager in the 70's, These were the rims to have on your muscle car. My friend had 69 Pontiac Firebird 350, 4 Barrel Holly, 4 Speed Munic Trans. Would Burn Tires In Every Gear With Those CRAGAR Rims. Going to put CRAGAR, White Wagon Rims on my White Jeep TJ to give it that Retro Look. You did a fantastic story on founder and others will purchase company. Glad they kept the original name of company.
    Keep On Wheeling, Mr. T.

  • @therealderjett
    @therealderjett 6 лет назад +13

    Cragar was the first set of wheels I had on my 82 Chevy Malibu. That first hand me down car from my mom. I picked those up at Jegs in Columbus OH. Loved that first car.

    • @FitmentIndustries
      @FitmentIndustries  6 лет назад +2

      Gotta love it when something like that can bring back sweet memories.

    • @chriswright8464
      @chriswright8464 6 лет назад +1

      Me to, first set on my 85 Chevy van, short wheelbase , very cool!

    • @smash72cutlass30
      @smash72cutlass30 2 года назад

      It’s where I bought mine just two years ago. Sit nice on my 72 Cutlass with rear air shocks sits up in the back with the extra wide tire and dual trumpets. Oh it’s a look

  • @heavychevy383
    @heavychevy383 4 года назад +1

    in my humble opinion, nothing looks cooler on an old school muscle car (think circa 1960's & 70's) than a set of chrome plated cragars s/s wheels wrapped in a "big & little" (for example; 50's on the rear & 70's on the front) set of white letter bfgoodrich tires! ...i love all different cars of all different generations, but the muscle cars of the late 60's & early 70's will always be my favorites... even if they did handle like drunken school buses on drum brakes & bias ply tires... always enjoy ur videos guys, thanx!

  • @Diminish12
    @Diminish12 6 лет назад +16

    I must of been the 1st to ask for Cragars, got Cragars on my 1966 Chevy c10!

    • @Blitz0065
      @Blitz0065 6 лет назад +1

      C10 For the Win!

    • @PACKERMAN2077
      @PACKERMAN2077 6 лет назад

      1st?... ha get in line! 😛
      I want some for my Merc.

  • @Tsteriti
    @Tsteriti 6 лет назад +16

    My heart jumped for joy when I logged into RUclips and say this video on my sub list!! I mean you kinda got to do Dayton wheels now right?!
    Dream car 1993 Ferrari 512TR 🤤

  • @Thatsn95girl
    @Thatsn95girl 6 лет назад +12

    I run cragar wheels on my sn95. I like them

  • @brew62
    @brew62 6 лет назад +9

    Thank you for posting about Crager. It’s like a history lesson for the young bucks. I’m sure a lot of these young subscribers were conceived in the car that had Crager wheels on them...

  • @ragintaurusmusclemercury7023
    @ragintaurusmusclemercury7023 5 лет назад +2

    Had Cragers on my 1978 Camaro back in high school in the late 80s. Skinnies in the front and wide in the back. Was the first upgrade I ever did to my car.

  • @freedomfirst5420
    @freedomfirst5420 6 лет назад +3

    My dream car is a 1970 Hemi 'Cuda, painted Plum Crazy Purple! With original rally rims and a set of Cragar SS rims!

  • @danielaguero3766
    @danielaguero3766 6 лет назад +3

    Thanks I didn't know much about these wheels except for growing up and seeing my brother and his friends running these wheels , I myself have always been into the American Racing Tork Thrust mags it's a look that I think looks good 30's - 60's cars .

  • @Chenzoman
    @Chenzoman 6 лет назад +6

    First time watching one of your videos, I'm impressed. Very well done and informative. Not too serious, not too funny, just right Goldilocks!

    • @FitmentIndustries
      @FitmentIndustries  6 лет назад +2

      Glad to hear you enjoy our content! Don’t forget to sub for more videos from us! 🤙

  • @michaelstenhjem8086
    @michaelstenhjem8086 6 лет назад +98

    I'm the other person who asked for this...

  • @skipmcdonough6833
    @skipmcdonough6833 2 года назад

    Had cragar SS mags on al my muscle cars when I was a kid … 67 Camarillo, 69 gto a coronet 440 .. and that looked awesome now I just got. Ram 1500 and decided to put a set of Ss on it … unfortunately you don’t sell them any longer .. but I did find one that was very close but had hard time with lug pattern… low and behold BBwheels came out with one and I’m getting ready to buy a set .. can’t wait to ride with pride like the old days again … thank you cragar for being a part of my memories then and now !!!!

  • @lauro195
    @lauro195 6 лет назад +9

    Man I'd love a 67 Chevelle, with or without Cragars on it

  • @MrTheHillfolk
    @MrTheHillfolk 6 лет назад +16

    Cragars and N-50s and air shocks.
    And have your reverse lights on as you ride around town in your pro stock look chevelle

    • @mrchevy70
      @mrchevy70 6 лет назад +1

      That's the absolute, best, look possible!

    • @MrTheHillfolk
      @MrTheHillfolk 6 лет назад +2

      mrchevy70
      It’s a love it or hate it look but I dig it ...a buddy had a 72 skylark like that , but with keystone classics.
      Light metallic green like pea soup and a tan vinyl roof.
      Clean looking but the 2 barrel 350 was a pig, it needed help.
      I saw this a few weeks ago, I thought everyone forgot about the reverse light thing.....for the kids , we used to ride around with the reverse lights on and that meant we want to race.
      Now the kids put a little stuffed animal in the back.
      ruclips.net/video/0D2dJlAoAj0/видео.html

    • @babayaga1767
      @babayaga1767 6 лет назад

      when i was a kid, i wondered how they had the reverse lights on while driving

  • @hoboemojo
    @hoboemojo 6 лет назад +3

    My dream car is a 1970 Chevelle! One of the best looking cars ever.

  • @dendens8188
    @dendens8188 Год назад +1

    The coolest looking wheel ever made

  • @thirdgengta
    @thirdgengta 6 лет назад +1

    A cool and informative vid, man. Love the occasional impromptu comedy bits. Keep up the good work.

  • @michaelmyers4162
    @michaelmyers4162 6 лет назад +2

    First set on my 76 Chevy van in 1982 loved them

  • @michaelgreco4813
    @michaelgreco4813 6 лет назад +1

    really glad you guys went over cragar

  • @leatherbag5418
    @leatherbag5418 6 лет назад +1

    Great video man! Subscribed

  • @bobl5335
    @bobl5335 6 лет назад +7

    Cragar Mags were cool then and they'r still still Great today , on you're old hot rods , muscle cars, and hot rods . don't forget the moon hubcaps.

  • @Alantek8
    @Alantek8 6 лет назад +2

    Excellent choice to feature Cragar wheels. I'm personally more JDM, but if I had a classic American muscle car, I'd put Cragar wheels on them. I always saw them as an American Watanabe.

  • @kittykitty643
    @kittykitty643 6 лет назад +1

    Great video it brings back memories

  • @josemaravilla796
    @josemaravilla796 6 лет назад +1

    Thank you sir.Brout back memories

  • @bulletbobweldon1442
    @bulletbobweldon1442 6 лет назад +1

    What a great tribute to a legendary brand!

  • @gamercoolapple1
    @gamercoolapple1 6 лет назад +5

    Daytona superbird is the real dream car

  • @freedomfirst5420
    @freedomfirst5420 6 лет назад +3

    I've always loved Cragar SS rims!

  • @justinburchfield2857
    @justinburchfield2857 6 лет назад +1

    1968 Chevrolet Chevelle is my dream car and I was fortunate enough to buy one after returning from my first MEU.

  • @terryschnereger8531
    @terryschnereger8531 6 лет назад +1

    I have Cragar SS wheels on my car. Was contemplating swapping to Torq-Thrust D's just to see what it looks like on my 74 Charger until I watched this video. Thanks FI.👍

    • @FitmentIndustries
      @FitmentIndustries  6 лет назад

      Not a problem man we’d love to see your ride in our gallery! You should upload it so we can see this beast! 🤟bit.ly/2Ma4oca

  • @no0se4u64
    @no0se4u64 6 лет назад +4

    5zigen have always caught my attention...any chance for a video??

  • @Bocce-Kaizer
    @Bocce-Kaizer 6 лет назад +1

    Great job. Would love to see episode on Torque thrust D wheels.

  • @ja5435
    @ja5435 6 лет назад +2

    I have always loved the CRAGAR 30 SPOKE RIMS. I probably have bought at least 4 or 5 pairs in my life.
    They are the best spoke rims I’ve ever seen or heard of. I have also had a pair of Dayton wire wheels and they don’t even come close to being as solid as the Cragar 30 spoke rims. Matter of fact I’m going to buy a pair of Cragar 30 spoke rims I found on the internet the other day. They are $2,500 dollars but they are well worth the money.

    • @johnbeer5242
      @johnbeer5242 6 лет назад

      J A 🍻👏👊😁👏👏👏✌🍻

  • @buddaha420kmk
    @buddaha420kmk 6 лет назад +35

    can you talk about weld wheels

    • @laperez7946
      @laperez7946 6 лет назад +1

      xjesse92x weld and alcoa

    • @StEyeball
      @StEyeball 6 лет назад +1

      I second the Weld Wheels! Alcoa as well!

    • @buddaha420kmk
      @buddaha420kmk 6 лет назад +1

      Well they have done videos about wheels with less people asking so hopefully they will do this

    • @throwingsparks
      @throwingsparks 6 лет назад

      Oh, Kenny Weld , now that's a sad story..

    • @David..832
      @David..832 5 лет назад

      @@buddaha420kmk No. This is about cragars ss.

  • @obiwankablowme7964
    @obiwankablowme7964 6 лет назад +1

    you guys would be popular in Canada LOLmakes allot of sense keep it going ive learned allot from this channel

  • @CarRant
    @CarRant 6 лет назад +9

    What about Koenig? Not Konig, Koenig. It was a thing as I have a set of their wheels before SSR started making their own Koenig wheels with the Desmond branding and certification on the inside of the barrels. Just trying to get more info since I haven't found a whole lot.

    • @beckywatt5048
      @beckywatt5048 6 лет назад

      Car Rant Koenig makes high end service truck boxes, and cranes.

    • @CarRant
      @CarRant 6 лет назад

      Becky Watt nah I have their wheels. Look up Koenig Super Specials. Weird story behind them... But not sure of it all.

  • @kerryroberts4540
    @kerryroberts4540 6 лет назад +1

    cragars are and will always be the best

  • @NCRranger24
    @NCRranger24 6 лет назад +1

    Oh, and my dream car is an Acura NSX with fixed headlights. Talk about Drag wheels next, they seem to be a rep brand but would be worth doing a video on IMO.

  • @CS-yr7bg
    @CS-yr7bg 6 лет назад +4

    My dream is a black evo 8, semi race car spec so caged but still retaining interior and running a built 4g63 at a reliable 600ish hp with a set of silver Desmond regamasters❤❤

  • @maxxas5067
    @maxxas5067 6 лет назад +16

    This makes me wanna grow a mullet

  • @riverralph
    @riverralph 6 лет назад +2

    I had a set on a 70 elcamino and they were bad about cracking.Had to have 3 out of 4 wheels brazed.Ended up with chrome wheels with baby moon hub caps.

  • @JosephACruz-os2ir
    @JosephACruz-os2ir 6 лет назад +2

    I have a set of Cragar wheels on my 1982 Ford van they look cool looking with my B.F. Good rich tires. 7" in the front and 8" in the rear

    • @FitmentIndustries
      @FitmentIndustries  6 лет назад

      Let’s see it bro!! Upload it to our gallery and let’s see this beast 🤟 bit.ly/2Ma4oca

  • @georgeserrano8354
    @georgeserrano8354 6 лет назад +1

    I just looked at the wheels on my 72 Ranchero I just got and they're Crager wheels...have to be at least 40 year's old! I'm definitely going to keep and restore them. Do you have any information on how to do this? From your latest subscriber.

  • @johnbeer5242
    @johnbeer5242 6 лет назад +4

    I like Cragars SS's rims 14s on 520s white wall tires or Goodrich or Goodyear Indy 500 letter tires😁🍻and they look good on all old classic cars from GM Mopar n Fords

  • @brandoncaldwell95
    @brandoncaldwell95 6 лет назад +3

    Ill be running cragar wheels here soon hopefully. Also 33s. i want that classic offroader look.

    • @FitmentIndustries
      @FitmentIndustries  6 лет назад

      What kind of car are you throwing those wheels on?

    • @brandoncaldwell95
      @brandoncaldwell95 6 лет назад

      Fitment Industries 2005 Silverado z71 ext-cab factory flares. The actual build i want a 4in rough country suspension lift. Keep the factor sized 17in with maybe a -9offset on 33in tires. Have the ranchhand front and rear replacement with the full grill guard and have it modified for a winch. Im already running a headache rack with 4 J.W. Speaker LED 3x5 oval lights. and 2 more on the front grill guard on the truck at this time.

  • @steveflewelling67
    @steveflewelling67 5 лет назад +1

    I run the craiger ss .they are cool look good , i have them on a 85 monte carlo ,get lots of looks and comments, thanks for the video

  • @isaaac3744
    @isaaac3744 5 лет назад +1

    I was just on their website they actually have some pretty cool wheels

  • @meatheadmasks4410
    @meatheadmasks4410 5 лет назад +1

    I have a set of old Cragar S/S wheels on my S10. They are some damn good wheels for sure. I had a huge blowout one day going about 60 mph so I was riding on rim for a good few 100 feet. Didn't even scratch these babies

  • @chrisadams628
    @chrisadams628 5 лет назад

    Growing up, my dad had a '65 f100 longbed with Cragar 320 quick tricks or similar, and that has to be my dream "car". Sadly, he lost in a divorce about 15 years ago.

  • @J2000Z71
    @J2000Z71 6 лет назад +3

    speed and racing started in California.... mmm ok maybe we should do some history on Dawsonville Ga and prohibition

  • @tomherbert160
    @tomherbert160 6 лет назад +2

    Great video mate! I am one of the viewers watching from Australia, the seventh 'divorced' state, Tasmania to be specific.
    I'd have to say my dream car would be a big mofo yank tank. A ridiculous land yacht that you guys would probably see as an every day, run of the mill car. Like a 57 Bel air or a 57 Galaxy or something along those lines. A big fat cruiser 😎

    • @FitmentIndustries
      @FitmentIndustries  6 лет назад +1

      A BIG OLE YANK TANK I love it brother! Thank you again for the support crazy to hear we have fans so far away! Do you have any kind of car now with wheels or anything!? 👍

    • @tomherbert160
      @tomherbert160 6 лет назад

      Fitment Industries well here, a yank tank is anything huge and iconically American. I really like a lot of your 70's-90's cars that we just don't see here.
      I do mate, not the kind you'd prefer I'd say. I've an 89 FJ62 Landcruiser with some old 17x10 eagle alloys. Nice wheels for a cruiser 😎
      I've also got a 1976 Mazda Bongo van with some 14" performance Challenger's so I'm all old school cool 👌

  • @RickaramaTrama-lc1ys
    @RickaramaTrama-lc1ys 6 лет назад +1

    You are The Cragar Wheel of Commentary~!! Enjoyed your video.

  • @martinpena7608
    @martinpena7608 2 года назад

    This man knows lot about car history I love it

  • @KuyaArbee
    @KuyaArbee 6 лет назад +21

    Why did you change your beat??? :( xo tour life was the best

    • @FitmentIndustries
      @FitmentIndustries  6 лет назад +13

      We’ll bring it back! Some people don’t like it used so repetitively 🙂 - Mario

  • @WhittyPics
    @WhittyPics 6 лет назад +2

    I had a set of Cragar S/S wheels on my 78 Firebird

    • @FitmentIndustries
      @FitmentIndustries  6 лет назад

      Firebird what!? Do you have any old pictures laying around still of that beast??

  • @Aldarris
    @Aldarris 6 лет назад +4

    Do one about AME wheels.

  • @rhigh100
    @rhigh100 6 лет назад +1

    I never had a set of Cragars. I did have Keystone Raiders which were similar. And of course Keystone Classic.

  • @snosaj1123
    @snosaj1123 6 лет назад +2

    Dream car is a 1971 Hemi 'Cuda convertible in Sublime Green.

  • @biglazynative
    @biglazynative 6 лет назад +1

    I like this history lesson on a old wheel, what about doing one on Dayton wire wheels

  • @wspears617
    @wspears617 5 лет назад +1

    Looking for a set of Cragar Star 30's 15*7 NOS or in near perfect condition..

  • @mustangfan5108
    @mustangfan5108 6 лет назад +3

    My dream car would be, either a 1971 Ford XY Falcon GT-HO Phase III or a 1972 Ford XA Falcon GT-HO Phase IV

  • @MrChevyLover1
    @MrChevyLover1 6 лет назад +1

    Bell Auto parts building is like 2 blocks away from me. Lots of Automotive pioneers around the area.

  • @racermaniak
    @racermaniak 6 лет назад +1

    I didn't ask for this but I'll watch it

  • @350quest
    @350quest 6 лет назад +2

    my dream car would have to be a 69 Chevrolet Chevelle SS due to the fact that ive own the engine for quite a few years now and they're bad ass

  • @aabishayra8805
    @aabishayra8805 6 лет назад

    -I love your channel-

  • @wermatch666
    @wermatch666 6 лет назад +1

    My dream car is a 22B Impreza only 424 were built and none were sold new in the USA.

  • @jesusgutierrez6551
    @jesusgutierrez6551 6 лет назад +1

    jdm NSX 😍 and talk about lift kits next

  • @fvrtsn
    @fvrtsn 6 лет назад +1

    My current dream car is the Mk7 GTI Clubsport. Great daily that looks sick slammed

  • @jayyponce2065
    @jayyponce2065 6 лет назад +2

    we need one about Dayton or Zenith wheels !!!

  • @thunder_moo
    @thunder_moo 6 лет назад +1

    Mannn...i love the cragar super tricks I had on my challenger

  • @DanielRodriguez-kl1ls
    @DanielRodriguez-kl1ls 5 лет назад +2

    My dad has Cragar rims on his '68 Camaro heh. They look good.

  • @vwoday1872
    @vwoday1872 6 лет назад +1

    love it can US Mag and Mickey Thompson wheels even if TSW is knocking off the MT Classics please can you do an episode on both companies please? and my dream car would be a Tucker Torpedo with a.c.

  • @jayg1358
    @jayg1358 3 года назад

    Do you have to install longer studs to fit on 71 Chevelle

  • @jeromeaa1255
    @jeromeaa1255 6 лет назад +1

    Could you guys do a video on Wheel Turbo Fans?!

  • @smeech1379
    @smeech1379 6 лет назад +1

    1992 Mazda Rx7, Bridgeported with the rocket bunny body kit. 18x12 work vsxx complete polished lip and face. With a Dark grey metallic paint job.

  • @adriansanchez4832
    @adriansanchez4832 6 лет назад +7

    If I make a shopping cart go kart will y’all do a review Milwaukee area

  • @TheMilkman04
    @TheMilkman04 6 лет назад +1

    Can we do ARC Wheels next? My bro has some that are super nice so I thought I’d put a recommendation in.

  • @forsakenproductions6730
    @forsakenproductions6730 6 лет назад +1

    1996 Acura NSX is the DREAM!!!!!!!!!!

  • @clydedenby1436
    @clydedenby1436 Год назад

    The 60s SS wheels were amazing. I have dug them out of dirt, washed them off, and mounted tires to them for a instant rust-free gratification. The new ones are crap which will instantly bloom rust just from morning dew.

  • @bronxdynamo5650
    @bronxdynamo5650 6 лет назад +1

    what are those wheels at 2:36 next to his head. the wheat/flax colored ones with the gold trim

  • @Dmonsterparedes0625
    @Dmonsterparedes0625 6 лет назад +1

    Vr6 swapped mk3 cabrio 👌🏼 one day I’ll make it happen, also let’s talk about motegi

  • @singrana3781
    @singrana3781 6 лет назад +1

    Can you guys do a video on vossen wheels

  • @TheDynotuner
    @TheDynotuner 5 лет назад +5

    You Missed majority of Cragar's true history & how they dominated the from the 60's through 99 when going bankrupt after being screwed over by Super Shop's. But nice try

  • @audiblewheezinginbound9709
    @audiblewheezinginbound9709 6 лет назад +4

    69 mustang is my dream car

  • @djavyschimizzi9604
    @djavyschimizzi9604 6 лет назад +1

    What wheel is that on the left of the two red wheels directly behind him?

  • @robertheinkel6225
    @robertheinkel6225 6 лет назад +2

    I had Cragers on my first muscle car back in 71. Combine that with Goodyear Polyglass tires.

  • @noelsoto4329
    @noelsoto4329 6 лет назад +1

    Aww man the beat... hope it comes back soon

  • @AmirZafri-mw3rc
    @AmirZafri-mw3rc 6 лет назад +4

    The black rims reminds me of cartown

  • @silentdeath9237
    @silentdeath9237 6 лет назад +2

    I always preferred the keystone classics I had them on my 82 cutlass supreme and my 84 Monte Carlo

    • @skeetersaurus6249
      @skeetersaurus6249 6 лет назад +2

      Spun Centerlines were the best wheel, bar none, for high-horsepower cars...whether you were 'cruisin' the boulevard' or racing...NOTHING beat Centerlines!

  • @tw1tchie
    @tw1tchie 6 лет назад +2

    YESSS!!!!!
    Cragar FTFW :D

  • @sexdefender86
    @sexdefender86 6 лет назад +1

    slammed mr2, mk2, rev4. I also won’t want to do laundry by the time the next vid is up, so a free shirt would be great

  • @axn567
    @axn567 6 лет назад +1

    please do one on avant garde wheels!

  • @JoseJimenez-um8tq
    @JoseJimenez-um8tq 5 лет назад +1

    My uncle 64 impala had a set of 14x7 reversed cragar s/s with 5:20s we would Lowride KING and STORY in SAN JOSE

  • @Zeven1x
    @Zeven1x 6 лет назад +1

    Make a video about junction produce wheels /company

  • @bobbymiller2955
    @bobbymiller2955 6 лет назад +1

    Good info! Can you do same with western slots?

    • @FitmentIndustries
      @FitmentIndustries  6 лет назад

      Good suggestion dont think we have heard that one yet! 👍

  • @austincole7744
    @austincole7744 6 лет назад +1

    A 2016 rs6 avant would be amazing for snowboarding trips in Colorado.

    • @FitmentIndustries
      @FitmentIndustries  6 лет назад +1

      Sure would be nice to shred the gnar right now!! 🏂

  • @BBBILLY86
    @BBBILLY86 6 лет назад

    I wanted Crager SS wheels so bad in the mid 80's. But $3.35 an hour didn't allow that. Ended up running 15x8 and 15x7 Pontiac Ralley Wheels painted as silvery as I could get. $10 each from any local salvage yard. Still wish my Novas had these wheels. Just want meant to be. Great video.

    • @FitmentIndustries
      @FitmentIndustries  6 лет назад +1

      Hey man as long as you enjoy what your driving thats all that matters, 👍

  • @wesleyschneider245
    @wesleyschneider245 6 лет назад +1

    I love it. How about a turn up to the Peterbilt or Kenworth trucks. Or western star or a big truck manufacturer