Thanks so much for all these videos! I bought my 6s yesterday and I´m learning absolutely everything following your playlist! This tiny machine absolutely rocks, even with the 6 tracks limitation and for me, because I never played an 8s, the menu diving is not a problem and actually I find it amazing.
Nice video! The sample import is, as you say, pretty tedious. There is a batch sample delete method from the Utility menu.... SAMPLE>Delete > press the "Value knob" and the sample gets a mark next to it... page through clicking the samples to be deleted.... "shift" and click the value knob.to give the [Cancel] [OK] options to delete ... select using value knob and click as appropriate (Tr-6S Version 1.51).
370 MB?!? Holy shit,Eureka! For MPC 1000 users this is a godsend,Nearly 3 times what our machines will hold on their own. I’m not sure why anybody would’ve thought it could’ve streamed the whole 32gb in the first place, even an Octa track can only do 8 GB,if this could’ve it would’ve cost 4 times as much at least. As long as you’re not DJ Shadow,you’ll be fine.😏 Another Good review/video by the way,Afro H. 👍🏼
I think my main reason for assuming it could do more is based off of not using a hardware sampler at all, and not having it explained in the manual meant I could only use what I know to figure it out, right? So I was like “it must read it from the SD card” because of it.
@@afrohamurai Oh,I absolutely understand. Hardware sample ram has always been a dance of enticement unfortunately,and I feel you more then you know. There is ABSOLUTELY no reason why we are not streaming 200gb of samples directly on a device the size of a credit card in this day and age,other then greed/industry regulations etc. I can’t fathom how realistic ram is not a years deep reality by now.. I get that it took a few years for Hardware to be considered viable still/again,and so there’s the market trends naturally,but if the designs of the past 15 years could have been able to stay up ram wise,would there have ever been a doubt as to the creative strength of Hardware samplers?🤷🏼♂️ I’m not sure,but it sure seems like they would’ve been more respected,and less of a technological boat anchor,to most,I’m sure of it.
Thanks for sharing this. I have the TR8S and the sample management is the same - it sucks big time. I read in a couple of places that if you name folders correctly the device will import the samples into categories automatically, but never found evidence or a more detailed explanation. Have tried naming folders as USER1 for example and it didnt work - still dumped all the files into the IMPORT category on the drum machine. Such a shame. Roland have done firmware updates as recently as Jan 2021, so I am hopeful they may improve this, but it seems less likely as time goes on.
You are totally right, made bad experience of managing my sample packs with tr6s. Nearly impossible. So i will decide to buy me another device, f.e all this management is so easy with my octatrack, just copying to sd card period. so i will go for dedicated drumming maybe for digitakt II.
Thanks for this video. Very helpfull since f.e. the roland manual some issues do not reflect properly especially the part of assignuing user samples. Your demo in this case was very helpful.
Really nice infos on this topic, not many cover this, and nice channel. Only thing I don't like is that you still have this masked channel picture, that's not cool imho. Keep it up posting valuable content
Thank you for this. I was/am about to buy this, and i had been hesitating because i had a brief experience with some other Roland products, and i always hated their UI/UX. Absolutely ridiculous, how they 'design' their architecture. It's like it's all done by engineers, and engineers are the wrong people to create user-facing interfacing. // If i do go ahead, though, have you concluded what max size SD card i should get? Like, what's usable considering you indicated the limit is not the card but what is storable on the device-that's correct, right?
Your videos about the TR-6S are very good, thanks a lot!! One question: so, I can use the SD card once, import, organize and then I can use the imported samples without the SD card, right?
Is it possible that Roland were GEEKING OUT with this and actually deliberately made these operation more like the old Analogue programming from the 80’s?
Actually, how about doing a video on the features of Roland's new TR-6S Mac/PC editor ? That would be a popular follow-up to this series of 6S vids, I imagine..
Thanks for that , I’ve been wanting to use my samples from Mars drum sample packs with the TR6. But this looks really clunky importing them. Also I presumed the samples were being read straight from the SD card , so having only 360MB of ‘ sample memory’ instead of 32GB is a big deal . Mmm, Roland should have made this clear .
Absolutely strange step by Roland, in the world where we not enough of 32GB for samples, I using around 500gb for this, so 300+MB it's like from a past
I bought it. I was positively surprised when you said it holds 375mb of memory but was then negatively surprised when I could not import even 60mb. I then did some research after the fact. So it holds 600 seconds in mono or 300 seconds in stereo. 300 seconds is 5minutesX60sec=300 sec in 44,1khz/16bit. A minute in stereo is around give or take 10+ Mb per minute. So it can take between 50-60 mb of samples. So if you import 2 samples of 150 sec length each, the machine is full. If it was able to import 375 mb of samples I would literally Mary the device and glue my self to the pavement. though with the prehistoric sample organizing workflow of the machine I would probably kill myself before I get older while organizing and moving the samples into categories etc
Chopped strand audio … like the guy below here in comments says. / it’s fairly easy ,, no ! By the way. I’m aware this is a old video so ../did u find a better way by the way .. cheers
For sampling, absolutely - but then the Rhythm is meant to be a sampler only, like an SP-404 or the MC-101 Personally, I still prefer the TR-6S purely because it synthesises most of the Roland drum machines I use instead of using samples
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Thanks so much for all these videos! I bought my 6s yesterday and I´m learning absolutely everything following your playlist! This tiny machine absolutely rocks, even with the 6 tracks limitation and for me, because I never played an 8s, the menu diving is not a problem and actually I find it amazing.
I’m happy you’ve found them useful! I surprisingly might have another one to do going into the specifics of using them as a MIDI sound module
@@afrohamurai Cool! Thanks! I'm pretty happy with this tiny synth. I wasn't sure if it will fit in my workflow, but actually does!
@@afrohamurai did you ever do this? Mystified by how to use an external midi controller or sequencer with this…
Nice video! The sample import is, as you say, pretty tedious. There is a batch sample delete method from the Utility menu.... SAMPLE>Delete > press the "Value knob" and the sample gets a mark next to it... page through clicking the samples to be deleted.... "shift" and click the value knob.to give the [Cancel] [OK] options to delete ... select using value knob and click as appropriate (Tr-6S Version 1.51).
Your Videos are really Excellent!! Thanks, Mate!!
Thank you! Welcome to the channel :D
370 MB?!? Holy shit,Eureka! For MPC 1000 users this is a godsend,Nearly 3 times what our machines will hold on their own. I’m not sure why anybody would’ve thought it could’ve streamed the whole 32gb in the first place, even an Octa track can only do 8 GB,if this could’ve it would’ve cost 4 times as much at least. As long as you’re not DJ Shadow,you’ll be fine.😏
Another Good review/video by the way,Afro H. 👍🏼
I think my main reason for assuming it could do more is based off of not using a hardware sampler at all, and not having it explained in the manual meant I could only use what I know to figure it out, right? So I was like “it must read it from the SD card” because of it.
@@afrohamurai Oh,I absolutely understand. Hardware sample ram has always been a dance of enticement unfortunately,and I feel you more then you know. There is ABSOLUTELY no reason why we are not streaming 200gb of samples directly on a device the size of a credit card in this day and age,other then greed/industry regulations etc. I can’t fathom how realistic ram is not a years deep reality by now.. I get that it took a few years for Hardware to be considered viable still/again,and so there’s the market trends naturally,but if the designs of the past 15 years could have been able to stay up ram wise,would there have ever been a doubt as to the creative strength of Hardware samplers?🤷🏼♂️ I’m not sure,but it sure seems like they would’ve been more respected,and less of a technological boat anchor,to most,I’m sure of it.
Thanks for sharing this. I have the TR8S and the sample management is the same - it sucks big time.
I read in a couple of places that if you name folders correctly the device will import the samples into categories automatically, but never found evidence or a more detailed explanation. Have tried naming folders as USER1 for example and it didnt work - still dumped all the files into the IMPORT category on the drum machine. Such a shame.
Roland have done firmware updates as recently as Jan 2021, so I am hopeful they may improve this, but it seems less likely as time goes on.
You are totally right, made bad experience of managing my sample packs with tr6s. Nearly impossible. So i will decide to buy me another device, f.e all this management is so easy with my octatrack, just copying to sd card period. so i will go for dedicated drumming maybe for digitakt II.
@4:20 I don't know about this specific machine, but in any other sampler, when you select OPTIMIZE, it will delete all the not-used-samples.
Not with the TR-6S. Selecting "optimize" and running it (press the knob) only de-fragments the samples inside the machine. But it deletes nothing.
Cheers mate, wondered why I was getting the "Not Found" message
You're welcome - glad you found it helpful :)
Thanks for this video! I wish I was watching it before buying it. I’m gonna struggle now 🤣🤣 love also the track at the end! 🔥
Yeah, this video - all my dealbreakers with this box in one go. Truthfully, if there was ZERO sample capability, this is still a fantastic machine.
Absolutely - I think it’s still really great, and I used the sampling for just a CR-78 kit. I almost exclusively use it for it’s ACB tones
Thanks for this video. Very helpfull since f.e. the roland manual some issues do not reflect properly especially the part of assignuing user samples. Your demo in this case was very helpful.
Great to hear, I'm happy it helped out!
Do the loaded samples go away when the unit is turned off? Nice vid!
what i don't get is, where do i access new sounds that i can pick up and drop into my SD card?
Thankfully the new app made it a lot simpler to mess with the 6s and 8s.
what app is this
Really nice infos on this topic, not many cover this, and nice channel.
Only thing I don't like is that you still have this masked channel picture, that's not cool imho.
Keep it up posting valuable content
Thank you for this. I was/am about to buy this, and i had been hesitating because i had a brief experience with some other Roland products, and i always hated their UI/UX. Absolutely ridiculous, how they 'design' their architecture. It's like it's all done by engineers, and engineers are the wrong people to create user-facing interfacing. // If i do go ahead, though, have you concluded what max size SD card i should get? Like, what's usable considering you indicated the limit is not the card but what is storable on the device-that's correct, right?
Can you play your samples chromatically across the keys?
Your videos about the TR-6S are very good, thanks a lot!! One question: so, I can use the SD card once, import, organize and then I can use the imported samples without the SD card, right?
From what I know, yeah - it’ll import the samples into its memory for you to use.
@@afrohamurai Thank you! Waiting for my TR-6S to arrive soon, then I’ll test it and watch your other videos.
hello, sampler is good quality, punchy ? like mpc500 you think .. best vibes
Bless, mate. Thanks.
Is it possible that Roland were GEEKING OUT with this and actually deliberately made these operation more like the old Analogue programming from the 80’s?
That…makes a lot of sense actually - headcanon confirmed!
@@afrohamurai I was just thinking how there has been such a throwback to the Analogue over the past 10 or so years.
How do you get them on the SD card in the first place in folders as WAVs or some weird Roland file type !?
It supports WAV at pretty much any sample rate, it just needs to be organised semi-specifically. I think it only reads one folder deep or something.
@@afrohamurai Cheers dude!
Why they did it to be able to import the samples from the usb directly to the internal memory? They still use sd cards.
Hi there. Really helpful video thanks a lot!
Assumption: There is no way to delete factory samples, right?
That’s right, I haven’t seen a way to remove the factory samples, only removing the user samples
Great video (at the time) but this is all largely redundant now with Roland's issue of the TR editor (for the 6S and 8S) as of Nov. '21..
Actually, how about doing a video on the features of Roland's new TR-6S Mac/PC editor ? That would be a popular follow-up to this series of 6S vids, I imagine..
@@actonspur5231 Does the TR_Editor do sample import?
Ok so what is it like adding two bar loops to each spot
Thanks for that , I’ve been wanting to use my samples from Mars drum sample packs with the TR6. But this looks really clunky importing them. Also I presumed the samples were being read straight from the SD card , so having only 360MB of ‘ sample memory’ instead of 32GB is a big deal . Mmm, Roland should have made this clear .
I still use some of my Samples from Mars on it, but only really a couple of kits on it like the CR-78, one of the MPC1 and one of the Jupiter sets
Yep, this sucks.
Absolutely strange step by Roland, in the world where we not enough of 32GB for samples, I using around 500gb for this, so 300+MB it's like from a past
I bought it. I was positively surprised when you said it holds 375mb of memory but was then negatively surprised when I could not import even 60mb. I then did some research after the fact. So it holds 600 seconds in mono or 300 seconds in stereo. 300 seconds is 5minutesX60sec=300 sec in 44,1khz/16bit. A minute in stereo is around give or take 10+ Mb per minute. So it can take between 50-60 mb of samples. So if you import 2 samples of 150 sec length each, the machine is full.
If it was able to import 375 mb of samples I would literally Mary the device and glue my self to the pavement. though with the prehistoric sample organizing workflow of the machine I would probably kill myself before I get older while organizing and moving the samples into categories etc
Can it trim samples
You can change the start and end points within these settings, yeah
Chopped strand audio … like the guy below here in comments says. / it’s fairly easy ,, no ! By the way. I’m aware this is a old video so ../did u find a better way by the way .. cheers
for the price of the tr 06, might as well just get the new novation rhythm.
For sampling, absolutely - but then the Rhythm is meant to be a sampler only, like an SP-404 or the MC-101
Personally, I still prefer the TR-6S purely because it synthesises most of the Roland drum machines I use instead of using samples
it's so long when you have lot of samples :(
this thing needs a firmware update bad.
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