Lotsa Spaghetti... Q: Why didn’t you bring up Garlic Jr’s father? A: I just couldn’t be bothered to talk about his father since outside of his motive, I didn’t like how it ruined the flow of the video when writing the script. Q: So, is the Anime adventure Role-Playing Guidebook a valid source? A: Ehhh, debatable. Although yes, the entire book was written specifically for game mechanics, most of the lore for its characters and cosmology were all written to correlate to the anime continuity. This was why I didn’t heavily prioritize its usage for the video, as it was only meant to give viewers more options to justify Garlic jr’s lore and as an interesting obscure fun fact. Q: Does Garlic Jr’s power-ups correlate to his power level? A: Also Debatable. Most guides usually confirm forms like ssj1 being 50x for BATTLE POWER but not just strength. Hence, I didn’t go overboard, trying to stack each multiplier and make him reach levels I’m sure people won’t agree on. As such, I merely state his super form is a power boost as a lowballed stat argument. Q: Why didn’t you calc the dead zone to that of a Black Hole? A: since there is no frame of reference I can use to figure out its questionable size, as well as the already debatable explanation of the dead zone, It’s therefore un-quantifiable. Q: how strong is King of Destruction Garlic Jr? A: Due to the convolution of heroes scaling and canon, I didn’t want to speculate how strong he could be when there is very little proof he does scale to the Heroes' cast. So I decide to throw him a bone and speculate how strong he could be if he was given said form within the anime. For anyone asking for the background music, it's in the description. All credit goes to original artists who've created the fan-recreation themes. Shoutouts to them as well. Love their work.
I mean, the afterlife is a separate space time that transcends the living universe by dimensions, so ss3 goku and buu lore wise could already make universe 7 go poof in a short period of time (kaioshin realm included obviously), and this is before buu copies instant transmission, so fusion saga characters are already unironically going to swat away the hyperspace even if he can manage to get it out yet ssj3 is over 4x the battle power of ssj2 XD
When I was a kid, I always thought Garlic Jr. was Pilaf's brother or something. Also thought I missed a prior movie or early DB episode because the lore between his father and Kami seemed to big to not have been an episode.
@@futureDreamer4 lol spice was going ultra instinct super saiyan before we knew it. Although baby vegeta actually did have a white haired super saiyan.
Wild to think immortality isn't even the most impressive part of Garlic Jr. Really good scaling vid, would love to see stuff other Z movie villians : )
I think the easiest way to put Garlic Jr's Deadzone feat is: A hax feat. Garou was able to enter and manipulate a Hyperspace, yet his APT at high ball is small Galaxy level, far below what would be needed. Garlic Jr. likely is similar. Ki works in varied ways, so it IS most likely a feat, but just a hax one vs something like DBS Broly, where Gogeta and Broly create an entire 4D Pocket Dimension before proceeding to destroy it with raw APT.
@@jhevgainz2307 stated a super dimesion/super dimensional and the directors used mathematical formulas to make it look 3d, its like the interstellar black hole. Super dimensional also means cho jigen which means beyond dimensions and is greater than ko jigen which means higher dimensions.
The most funny thing is, is that Garlic Jr. can actually kill every person in the universe, probably except Moro, simply due to his immortality alone. If he never opens the Dead Zone, in every battle he fights, yeah, he'd get curb stomped, but Garlic Jr's immortality renders him unable to suffer from fatigue. Eventually, all of his opponents would wear themselves down and since Garlic Jr has proven he can perform incredible feats of power, he can kill them. There is also the option of just allowing his opponents to tire themselves out so much before he opens the dead zone on them as well. #17 and #18 are p much the only exceptions given that they do not suffer from fatigue or energy loss. If Garlic Jr could get stronger with every injury he took, he'd be insanely OP.
@@hitkid2456absorbtion bypasses regeneration so he'd most likely lose his mind like everybody else that gets absorbed while giving whomever eats him his immortality.
As I exist as the sole Garlic Jr. fan where he's my favorite villain from the movies, any video about him that shows him modicum of respect gets an immediate like and subscribe.
@@GuyChoooAt least the anime exclusive saga does attempt to give a half-hearted explaination for it. The Makyo planet was boosting Garlic Jr's power level.
I always felt garlic jr could be one of gohans best villains considering he already immortal an been in the dead zone for years if he been training for all these years an find a way back in the mix
Tempting, but the reason Garlic Jr escaped the Dead Zone the first time was thanks to the Makyo Star giving him a power boost. Gohan blew said star/rogue planet to smithereens. Unless he finds another way to escape, Garlic's trapped for good this time.
I feel like the Dead Zone is just a portal he can open that he prides himself on having a bit too much. This is the biggest example of a movie breaking power scaling I can think of, and if he did have 4D attack potency (lol) he wouldn't need to rely on using the Dead Zone as a trump card.
This happens in the movies quite a bit because they are alternative timelines that often come out before the anime even introduces the next thing. Hell characters like Broly and Hatchiyack are way too powerful for the time period they take place in, Broly was destroying the Southern Quadrant at such a fast rate during the movie that King Kai was worried about his Quadrant and that was Restricted State Broly. Shit Hatchiyack literally warped an entire Quadrant with his energy and yet these guys are being fought by Cell Games Z Fighters who wouldn't even be Solar System level because they don't scale to SPC or SSJ2 Gohan... Same thing happens with Fusion Reborn which can be extremely wanked.
@@150Hello imagine a hypothetical Movie 8 Perfect Cell whom it took movie 8 SSJ2 Gohan to defeat. That’s some scary ish. Then a hypothetical Movie 10 Buu whom not even SSJ2 Movie 10 Gohan, who had been training for 7 years could defeat. Again, scary ish.
@@teeboz6237 Yeah a Movie timeline SSJ2 would already scale above Galaxy level where as in the Main Manga/Anime timeline Galaxy level isn't reached Until SSJ3 and up, so a movie SSJ3 Goku and Gotenks or Mystic Gohan would probably shit on Vegito and Buuhan from the main timeline 😂
@@auditect950 But also the same list says Ox King had a power level of 900 which means he could have solo'd all of dragon ball up until Raditz so I guess that whole power level list is bullshit
@@stefanrosu248 and grandpa gohan was stronger than him! So really grandpa gohan was a chad and could've solo'd all of dragon ball up to raditz and maybe even raditz.
You're Videos are very good. extremely underated. content on par with the biggest dragon ball scalers and discussers out there! keep up the great content! 😁
I will be looking forward to some more Movie Characters. I know this is a incredibly small one but could you possibly add Path to Power Goku in a video? He was actually able to move clouds and change the color of the sky in his rage, maybe you could put this in a potential "How strong is Movie Goku" with every DB-DBZ/GT movie including Battle of Gods and such. For other requests, I'd like to see Broly and Gogeta if that's fine with you. (Movie Z Versions, not Super)
I hope you touch up on cosmology of the main dragon ball series because it's ridiculous when screw attack claim the universe is 4 galaxies wide when we obviously see Super Shenron eating many galaxies for lunch and there's also the guide where it states the living world is infinitely expansive.
Super shenron is a reality warper, it can eat the entire universe and the universe would still be uneaten if it wants. Reality warping usually doesnt follow any rules
@@youtubestudiosucks978 lol wut? Don't tell me you think the dragon ball universe actually has only 4 galaxies? Plus, why would super shenron create more galaxies?
In the first Broly movie, Broly literally destroys the south galaxy. There were originally only four galaxies. This was retconned later on, to where the universe is potentially infinite like our own, with also potentially infinite galaxies.
@@BaconMinion lol no. First, the broly movie isn't canon. Second, he destroys A galaxy in south galaxy. It was never retconned, its just that the 4 quadrants were referred to as a galaxies.
bojack unbound is the only movie that is easy to place, it happens after he defeats the androids and cell in his timeline, he comes back to tell everyone and is asked to compete. then he leaves and thats that
Well he is a movie villain so he could be unbelievably more powerful than the regular at the time like Broly and Janemba and Hirudigarn, but I doubt he'd be above Planet level myself, but I do agree with a lot mentioned and this could be a really unique way of looking at the character.
Wouldn't the makyo planet and king of destruction amps give him the same power boost since they both draw out his potential? And the king of destruction amp would be better since he gets a really durable body along with the power boost.
NGL, whenever I heard somebody ask anything about a villain from all Dragonball series, it's always the Legendary Garlic Jr. that comes to my mind first.
Garlic jr is my favorite dragonball character.i played him religiously in BOTH versions of the TCG and to great effect rivaling the most powerful decks like orange drill master roshi and whipping the floor with broly decks,he was not meta but he had such versatility that i won tournaments because people couldnt stop all three win conditions.hes the only villian to have actually won,hes immortal he cannot die i mean can a god even destoy him? Maybe grand zeno,hes not a very deep character motivation wise but hes got such style that unique to the other villians like hes from some ancient occult dynasty,he just does the megolomaniac villian trope so well its hard to see why people dont like him.
How do you lowball someone's speed as lightspeed while only giving their attack potency dwarf star level? Accelerating anything with mass to lightspeed requires an infinite amount of energy, so when someone achieves lightspeed their attack power should be infinite.
I think with the Dead Zone, he just has the ability to open a portal to it. This is a creation technique with destructive properties, not a direct destructive capability that Garlic JR can casually whip out with every attack. Think of the universal Spirit Bomb that Goku can do, and imagine it being used by a Goku that just learned how to form the Spirit Bomb from King Kai a few hours ago. The attack itself is extremely powerful, but the user is not. Same thing with Garlic HR & the Dead Zone.
[Garlic jr scale] 1. Garlic jr (deadzone): small planetary with FTL+ 2. Super garlic jr: planetary with FTL+ _____ 3. Garlic jr (garlic jr arc): universal+ with infinite speed 4. Super garlic jr: universal+ with infinite speed 5. Garlic jr deadzone: low complex multiversal (5D)
My 2nd fav villain. I find his saga in the anime to be very interesting if only b/c it did not take a transformation to take him down, but rather the sheer perseverance and teamwork of the heroes fighting him.
to be fair a difficulty with the dead zone ability is it shows how power levels arent perfect. It kinda makes sense in a realistic sense that a technically weaker person could beat them without being more powerful than them
Deadzone was always my favorite DB movie growing up. I use to watch it all the time. I know the cards aren't canon but according to them JR was stronger than third form Frieza
broly's so fodder he literally got pissed on by chibi spoiled trunk and base gohan could tanged with him in super saiyan, and videl dodged his attacks all after getting a zenkai.
On the subject of Kami. Didn't he say he was stronger than super Saiyan when piccolo first approached him about fusing? I know it's just word of mouth but still
Kinda wonder if he came up the the idea of it from the whole conspiracy about NIBIRU since that is said to be said to be a planet/star... There's supposedly some books that talk about it
He was a good bad guy and very strong. The music is awsome in the movies and I miss the aggressive to the point style. Feel like super has wasted alot of potential
I’ve made a joke argument that since Garlic Jr. is immortal he scales above beerus. Since Beerus is above gag characters, that means he’s above saitama, who everyone says is boundless. Therefore, Garlic Jr. > boundless
Saitama isn’t boundless, don’t get me wrong he has the potential to be boundless but with how his fight with cosmic garou went and how it states that saitama is constantly improving in that fight. Meaning he still hasn’t reach his peak yet, he’s still able to wipe out all the stars around him and garou just by them clashing. AND traveling back in time to end the fight before it began. Tldr: Popeye is the first boundless bald character
Terms like "moon" and "planet" arnt really descriptive of an objects size. What really defines a moon or a planet is the nature of the objects orbit. Planets orbit the sun, moons orbit anything smaller than a substellar object that is itself orbiting a larger object. Although this necessitates that the moon be smaller than its parent object, it doesn't mean that moons must be smaller than planets. For example the planet Mercury is smaller than Saturn and Jupitor's moons of Titan and Ganimede. And it doesnt stop there. Theoretically gas giants having moons the size of planet Earth isnt unfeasible either. So the concept of "planet level" and "moon level" doesn't really work when using it as a measure of magnitude.
It could be the case that cooler was, bojack is and garlic jr is canon... Although time would have to say that it's a different timeline as they show up and delay Goku arriving at kame house with Gohan by a bit so it's hard to say really. Wait no the use of the Dragonballs interferes with the anime, the Dragonballs wouldn't have been ready for when they were used canonically right?
So it's a sort of spurt bomb black hole? The deadzone is oof sure but also how can we say a high power level can't just go thru it in the way someone can break thru a hakai?
And technically we can't say the force it produces it equal to that of a black hole. Note also black holes don't actually eat matter up, they slingshot things around it. At a certain point you'd need to go faster than light to get into one... You'd have to be knocked into one at above Lightspeed or try to fly in faster than light. This is a direct pulling force straight towards itself no orbit required
So your saying this is fuzed piccolo, and Goku post namek who could whip out kaioken times 20, which is what 15 million power level? These guys could easily womp someone with 3 million power... Maybe not fuzed piccolo but Goku could just kaioken, this is well before Frieza was in the picture. Otherwise the androids would be nearly around, Goku would know super Saiyan, and trunks would wipe the floor with super garlic jr. Or this timeline has no super Saiyan, Frieza had to be cheesed with the spirit bomb, and kaioken times 15 Goku is still able to wipe the floor with super garlic jr. Power levels aside, Frieza's first form should be beyond garlic Jrs upper form... So he couldn't really clash with second form Frieza as first form Frieza is dwarf star level casually... And thus nail fuzed piccolo would one handed womp super garlic jr. And yes the dead zone... But recoome also tries to use an attack that takes time to use, a bit more that a second... As he goes to use it piccolo can drop him. So this is either after Vegeta got handled, or just before raditz kidnaps Gohan at roshis house, maybe around the time raditz arrived on earth
I mean he is immortal which means every attack to him will get healed he can open up the dead zone he made his own dead zone in the garlic jr filler arc so yeah he's pretty strong
Lotsa Spaghetti...
Q: Why didn’t you bring up Garlic Jr’s father?
A: I just couldn’t be bothered to talk about his father since outside of his motive, I didn’t like how it ruined the flow of the video when writing the script.
Q: So, is the Anime adventure Role-Playing Guidebook a valid source?
A: Ehhh, debatable. Although yes, the entire book was written specifically for game mechanics, most of the lore for its characters and cosmology were all written to correlate to the anime continuity. This was why I didn’t heavily prioritize its usage for the video, as it was only meant to give viewers more options to justify Garlic jr’s lore and as an interesting obscure fun fact.
Q: Does Garlic Jr’s power-ups correlate to his power level?
A: Also Debatable. Most guides usually confirm forms like ssj1 being 50x for BATTLE POWER but not just strength. Hence, I didn’t go overboard, trying to stack each multiplier and make him reach levels I’m sure people won’t agree on. As such, I merely state his super form is a power boost as a lowballed stat argument.
Q: Why didn’t you calc the dead zone to that of a Black Hole?
A: since there is no frame of reference I can use to figure out its questionable size, as well as the already debatable explanation of the dead zone, It’s therefore un-quantifiable.
Q: how strong is King of Destruction Garlic Jr?
A: Due to the convolution of heroes scaling and canon, I didn’t want to speculate how strong he could be when there is very little proof he does scale to the Heroes' cast. So I decide to throw him a bone and speculate how strong he could be if he was given said form within the anime.
For anyone asking for the background music, it's in the description. All credit goes to original artists who've created the fan-recreation themes. Shoutouts to them as well. Love their work.
Awesome 👍
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@@sunnyd4038 Lol someone is toast
I mean, the afterlife is a separate space time that transcends the living universe by dimensions, so ss3 goku and buu lore wise could already make universe 7 go poof in a short period of time (kaioshin realm included obviously), and this is before buu copies instant transmission, so fusion saga characters are already unironically going to swat away the hyperspace even if he can manage to get it out
yet ssj3 is over 4x the battle power of ssj2 XD
When I was a kid, I always thought Garlic Jr. was Pilaf's brother or something. Also thought I missed a prior movie or early DB episode because the lore between his father and Kami seemed to big to not have been an episode.
I thought he was pilaf's piccolo.
Same. As a kid I thought Spice was a white haired ssj😂
@@futureDreamer4 lol spice was going ultra instinct super saiyan before we knew it.
Although baby vegeta actually did have a white haired super saiyan.
@@ProjektTaku 😂😂😂
@@futureDreamer4 spice solo's all of z.
Wild to think immortality isn't even the most impressive part of Garlic Jr. Really good scaling vid, would love to see stuff other Z movie villians : )
I think the easiest way to put Garlic Jr's Deadzone feat is:
A hax feat. Garou was able to enter and manipulate a Hyperspace, yet his APT at high ball is small Galaxy level, far below what would be needed.
Garlic Jr. likely is similar. Ki works in varied ways, so it IS most likely a feat, but just a hax one vs something like DBS Broly, where Gogeta and Broly create an entire 4D Pocket Dimension before proceeding to destroy it with raw APT.
Broly and gogetas dimension is a higher dimension
@@mauricejohnson2351 5d yup
@@mauricejohnson2351 proof?
@@jhevgainz2307 stated a super dimesion/super dimensional and the directors used mathematical formulas to make it look 3d, its like the interstellar black hole. Super dimensional also means cho jigen which means beyond dimensions and is greater than ko jigen which means higher dimensions.
Ageeed chalk it up to hax summons
The most funny thing is, is that Garlic Jr. can actually kill every person in the universe, probably except Moro, simply due to his immortality alone. If he never opens the Dead Zone, in every battle he fights, yeah, he'd get curb stomped, but Garlic Jr's immortality renders him unable to suffer from fatigue. Eventually, all of his opponents would wear themselves down and since Garlic Jr has proven he can perform incredible feats of power, he can kill them. There is also the option of just allowing his opponents to tire themselves out so much before he opens the dead zone on them as well. #17 and #18 are p much the only exceptions given that they do not suffer from fatigue or energy loss. If Garlic Jr could get stronger with every injury he took, he'd be insanely OP.
If they would be strong enough to swat him away like a fly how long do u think it would take them to tire out while fighting garlic jr
Master Roshi would just use evil containment on him
What happens if he gets absorbed?
@@hitkid2456absorbtion bypasses regeneration so he'd most likely lose his mind like everybody else that gets absorbed while giving whomever eats him his immortality.
Majin Buu and Cell would be able to fight him forever too, though.
Still find it funny that Garlic Jr. tried killing Piccolo, and *then* tried using the Dragon Balls.
True genius
The dragon balls disappearing if Kami dies is hardly common knowledge.
"Wow i dodged a bullet on that one. Thank god my minions are so incompetent"
~TFS Garlic Jr.
Garlic did get the first immortality wish
I was always told he was as strong as friezes 3rd form when he’s maxed out but he’s immortal and has potential to get stronger
As I exist as the sole Garlic Jr. fan where he's my favorite villain from the movies, any video about him that shows him modicum of respect gets an immediate like and subscribe.
Your not alone
Imagine Garlic training this whole time the death zone and breaks free.
That’s funny I was just thinking that. AND learning to master his power of the dead zone.
Kinda ridiculous how he and his henchmen are stronger than 1st form and 2nd form Frieza
@@GuyChoooAt least the anime exclusive saga does attempt to give a half-hearted explaination for it. The Makyo planet was boosting Garlic Jr's power level.
I always felt garlic jr could be one of gohans best villains considering he already immortal an been in the dead zone for years if he been training for all these years an find a way back in the mix
Garlic Jr arc and movie are non-canon so his introduction would be his first canon appearance
Toriyama forgot, everyone knows the rules. ....or was it One bite, everyone knows the rules.
Tempting, but the reason Garlic Jr escaped the Dead Zone the first time was thanks to the Makyo Star giving him a power boost. Gohan blew said star/rogue planet to smithereens. Unless he finds another way to escape, Garlic's trapped for good this time.
Super Garlic JR would've been a sick character for Dragon Ball Fighterz
He needs to be in more games.
I added him to a Mugen on my Lenovo Legion Go with his theme. Garlic Junior is awesome.
He's in Sparking Zero
I wanted Garlic Jr. to be db fighterz so bad yo. He a underrated 🐐🐐🐐
Agreed he'd look so cool in that game.
Oh my fucking god. The dbz role playing book!!! That brings me BACK!!! I had that book back on like 1999
I feel like the Dead Zone is just a portal he can open that he prides himself on having a bit too much. This is the biggest example of a movie breaking power scaling I can think of, and if he did have 4D attack potency (lol) he wouldn't need to rely on using the Dead Zone as a trump card.
This happens in the movies quite a bit because they are alternative timelines that often come out before the anime even introduces the next thing. Hell characters like Broly and Hatchiyack are way too powerful for the time period they take place in, Broly was destroying the Southern Quadrant at such a fast rate during the movie that King Kai was worried about his Quadrant and that was Restricted State Broly. Shit Hatchiyack literally warped an entire Quadrant with his energy and yet these guys are being fought by Cell Games Z Fighters who wouldn't even be Solar System level because they don't scale to SPC or SSJ2 Gohan...
Same thing happens with Fusion Reborn which can be extremely wanked.
@@150Hello imagine a hypothetical Movie 8 Perfect Cell whom it took movie 8 SSJ2 Gohan to defeat. That’s some scary ish. Then a hypothetical Movie 10 Buu whom not even SSJ2 Movie 10 Gohan, who had been training for 7 years could defeat. Again, scary ish.
@@teeboz6237 Yeah a Movie timeline SSJ2 would already scale above Galaxy level where as in the Main Manga/Anime timeline Galaxy level isn't reached Until SSJ3 and up, so a movie SSJ3 Goku and Gotenks or Mystic Gohan would probably shit on Vegito and Buuhan from the main timeline 😂
@@150Hello exactly. It’s nuts to think about.
False dilemma fallacy and fallacy of oversimplification
18:14 Commander Red had a power level of 100 ? Bro was strong as hell for a human.
You'd think he'd be immune to bullets
@@auditect950 Ong, Goku had a power level of like 10 when he survived several gunshots
@@auditect950 But also the same list says Ox King had a power level of 900 which means he could have solo'd all of dragon ball up until Raditz so I guess that whole power level list is bullshit
@@stefanrosu248 I know Piano can fly so he has some level of Ki control, but a power level of 120 seems way too high for him!
@@stefanrosu248 and grandpa gohan was stronger than him!
So really grandpa gohan was a chad and could've solo'd all of dragon ball up to raditz and maybe even raditz.
One of the most underrated side quest boss in DBZ
Thanks for this. I've never seen ANYONE reference the old DBZ RPG Guide Books! I was beginning to think I was the only person who bought them.
You're Videos are very good. extremely underated. content on par with the biggest dragon ball scalers and discussers out there! keep up the great content! 😁
Underrated villain. I thought he had a good back story as well as cool techniques
These powerscales are great you should do videos on all 13 dbz movie villains
How do you only have 1000 subs your videos are amazing
He is the most forgotten villain, I miss him.
I'd love to see someone open the deadzone and Garlic Jr pops back out given years to grow in power and hone his skills
Let's goo another banger. I keeping my fingers for an Android 13 video
Here before 1k
Probably a retcon but the fact that popo can block and dodge Goten and trunks as super Saiyans is like him taking on two friezas at once
That was a filler scene
I will be looking forward to some more Movie Characters. I know this is a incredibly small one but could you possibly add Path to Power Goku in a video? He was actually able to move clouds and change the color of the sky in his rage, maybe you could put this in a potential "How strong is Movie Goku" with every DB-DBZ/GT movie including Battle of Gods and such.
For other requests, I'd like to see Broly and Gogeta if that's fine with you. (Movie Z Versions, not Super)
Would love to see a video like this on Dr. Wheelo!
had my earphones in, those noises caused me to literally hit the ceiling
I hope you touch up on cosmology of the main dragon ball series because it's ridiculous when screw attack claim the universe is 4 galaxies wide when we obviously see Super Shenron eating many galaxies for lunch and there's also the guide where it states the living world is infinitely expansive.
the 4 galaxies are just quadrants of the universe.
And yes the living world is stated to be infinite, so is the afterlife.
Super shenron is a reality warper, it can eat the entire universe and the universe would still be uneaten if it wants.
Reality warping usually doesnt follow any rules
@@youtubestudiosucks978 lol wut?
Don't tell me you think the dragon ball universe actually has only 4 galaxies?
Plus, why would super shenron create more galaxies?
In the first Broly movie, Broly literally destroys the south galaxy. There were originally only four galaxies. This was retconned later on, to where the universe is potentially infinite like our own, with also potentially infinite galaxies.
@@BaconMinion lol no.
First, the broly movie isn't canon.
Second, he destroys A galaxy in south galaxy.
It was never retconned, its just that the 4 quadrants were referred to as a galaxies.
Enemy: "I'm the strongest entity in the universe!!!!"
Gohan: "As long as you don't hit my daddy..."
How do you have less than 3k subs? The work you put in is on par with the high end power scalers in this community. Hope you explode. Subbed.
God bless Bojack for it's commitment to fitting into the timeline
DAMNN this was a good ass video 👍🏽🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
bojack unbound is the only movie that is easy to place, it happens after he defeats the androids and cell in his timeline, he comes back to tell everyone and is asked to compete. then he leaves and thats that
Nice vid loved it 😊
W vid please do more movie antagonist scaling
Well he is a movie villain so he could be unbelievably more powerful than the regular at the time like Broly and Janemba and Hirudigarn, but I doubt he'd be above Planet level myself, but I do agree with a lot mentioned and this could be a really unique way of looking at the character.
Bruh he scales above first form Frieza bro
@@vegetalover9297 evidence?
@@vegetalover9297 how??
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki I think he meant when Garlic returned stronger
@@lambtoken2708He was getting a major power boost from the Makyo star in the anime saga.
Watching this high asf after work is fuckin crazy this nigga garlic was CRAZY
Wouldn't the makyo planet and king of destruction amps give him the same power boost since they both draw out his potential?
And the king of destruction amp would be better since he gets a really durable body along with the power boost.
I actually forgot when Kami brushed kid Goku aside! Thank you!
NGL, whenever I heard somebody ask anything about a villain from all Dragonball series, it's always the Legendary Garlic Jr. that comes to my mind first.
Ive always assumed the dead zone already existed and GJ was just opening a portal
Fun fact: Garlic Jr is one of the only mortals Beerus can’t destroy.
How
Garlic Jr is immortal
actually the Dead zone is stated to be a superspace not a hyperspace. A space of 5 dimensions
Can you scale z broly please 🙏
Man I had one of the vhs 📼 tapes for one episode of garlic jr when piccolo was turned against gohan and krillin. The amounts of maseko ha man awesome
The easy explination for the Dead Zone is that its magic powered by Ki. That lets him have it without throwing everything else out of whack.
That cool bro I hope that you do broly next as well I love what you do to him
Garlic jr is my favorite dragonball character.i played him religiously in BOTH versions of the TCG and to great effect rivaling the most powerful decks like orange drill master roshi and whipping the floor with broly decks,he was not meta but he had such versatility that i won tournaments because people couldnt stop all three win conditions.hes the only villian to have actually won,hes immortal he cannot die i mean can a god even destoy him? Maybe grand zeno,hes not a very deep character motivation wise but hes got such style that unique to the other villians like hes from some ancient occult dynasty,he just does the megolomaniac villian trope so well its hard to see why people dont like him.
Also the kanji used for hyperspace from the daizenshuu 7 shares the word superspace as well: 超空間
I didn't know about that game! Looking forward to trying it o ut
Call me crazy but during this saga i was 100% convinced that Gohan would achieve Super Sayin form like his father to save himself and his friends.
The funny thing is if he never opens the Deadzone, he’s guaranteed to win eventually.
Would there then technically be a connection to Gohan using his hidden potential and Gohan transforming into Gohan Beast in Super Hero?
How do you lowball someone's speed as lightspeed while only giving their attack potency dwarf star level? Accelerating anything with mass to lightspeed requires an infinite amount of energy, so when someone achieves lightspeed their attack power should be infinite.
He spittin 🔥
He's like low planitary at best, immortality is all he has going for him
Dead Zone was my introduction into DBZ
That bit with King vegeta destroying planets casually was filler, and never happened.
I think with the Dead Zone, he just has the ability to open a portal to it. This is a creation technique with destructive properties, not a direct destructive capability that Garlic JR can casually whip out with every attack. Think of the universal Spirit Bomb that Goku can do, and imagine it being used by a Goku that just learned how to form the Spirit Bomb from King Kai a few hours ago. The attack itself is extremely powerful, but the user is not. Same thing with Garlic HR & the Dead Zone.
He created it himself so he scales to it
It's time for garlic Junior and Gohan to have their final showdown the final fight to the death
Could you do dbs and dbgt scaling?
I never really cared for Garlic Jr but I fucking enjoyed the vid anyways. Awesome!
I wonder the same thing about Garlic Jr.
This was cool.
I want to see a Garlic saga/story!
Good video
8:42 that might not even be impressive. could be a simple as inflating a balloon and you just have to know where a 4D direction is to do it
in D&D terms I say he's casting demi-plane by poking a hole in reality in the same 4D direction that black holes do
[Garlic jr scale]
1. Garlic jr (deadzone): small planetary with FTL+
2. Super garlic jr: planetary with FTL+
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3. Garlic jr (garlic jr arc): universal+ with infinite speed
4. Super garlic jr: universal+ with infinite speed
5. Garlic jr deadzone: low complex multiversal (5D)
Gohan tapping into Beast Gohan secretly even as a kid. Lol
Basically how I see it
I still love this guy regardless if people forgot or remember him
My 2nd fav villain. I find his saga in the anime to be very interesting if only b/c it did not take a transformation to take him down, but rather the sheer perseverance and teamwork of the heroes fighting him.
to be fair a difficulty with the dead zone ability is it shows how power levels arent perfect. It kinda makes sense in a realistic sense that a technically weaker person could beat them without being more powerful than them
Deadzone was always my favorite DB movie growing up. I use to watch it all the time. I know the cards aren't canon but according to them JR was stronger than third form Frieza
12:12 yeah no kidding like the guy made multiple statements about how DBZ movie broly is the strongest fucking character in the DBZ anime.
I would love to see a bardock version of this
He's my #1 favorite bad guy. The only villian to wish for immortality, and gain it!
You should do Cell Max or Janemba
Don't you think that the dead zone was created with magic instead of ki?
Excuse me, Mister Numbers. Can you please do a video talking about Broly or Janemba from the Dragon Ball Z Movies next?
broly's so fodder he literally got pissed on by chibi spoiled trunk and base gohan could tanged with him in super saiyan, and videl dodged his attacks all after getting a zenkai.
On the subject of Kami. Didn't he say he was stronger than super Saiyan when piccolo first approached him about fusing? I know it's just word of mouth but still
Amazing
Kinda wonder if he came up the the idea of it from the whole conspiracy about NIBIRU since that is said to be said to be a planet/star...
There's supposedly some books that talk about it
I don’t think you’re overhyping him at all tbh
Garlic Jr is my top 5 dbz- Db character of all time 🗣️
He was a good bad guy and very strong. The music is awsome in the movies and I miss the aggressive to the point style. Feel like super has wasted alot of potential
Garlic Jr. Is like if emperor Pilaf wasn't weak.
Okay but Broly has to be next up right?
MORE POWERSCALING PLEASE!!!!
Makyo star garlic should scale similarly to 3rd form frieza or 50% final form frieza (when he fought vegeta)
Garlic Jr can't die from his wish
I’ve made a joke argument that since Garlic Jr. is immortal he scales above beerus. Since Beerus is above gag characters, that means he’s above saitama, who everyone says is boundless. Therefore, Garlic Jr. > boundless
isn't beerus also immortal, albeit not in the same way.
Also, saitama isn't a gag character, nor is he boundless.
@@ProjektTaku beerus has eternal youth by being a god
Saitama isn’t boundless, don’t get me wrong he has the potential to be boundless but with how his fight with cosmic garou went and how it states that saitama is constantly improving in that fight. Meaning he still hasn’t reach his peak yet, he’s still able to wipe out all the stars around him and garou just by them clashing. AND traveling back in time to end the fight before it began. Tldr: Popeye is the first boundless bald character
@@lynnusuk2092 it’s a joke.
@@ZAPRST8879 so like semi-immortal?
This is a fantastic movie... Gohan is a menace as always 😂
During the cell saga piccolo mentions garlic jr
He is my favorite Dragon ball enemy!
Terms like "moon" and "planet" arnt really descriptive of an objects size.
What really defines a moon or a planet is the nature of the objects orbit.
Planets orbit the sun, moons orbit anything smaller than a substellar object that is itself orbiting a larger object.
Although this necessitates that the moon be smaller than its parent object, it doesn't mean that moons must be smaller than planets.
For example the planet Mercury is smaller than Saturn and Jupitor's moons of Titan and Ganimede.
And it doesnt stop there. Theoretically gas giants having moons the size of planet Earth isnt unfeasible either.
So the concept of "planet level" and "moon level" doesn't really work when using it as a measure of magnitude.
Dead Zone is an alternate beginning for Dbz
King piccolo is at least large planet lvl(db earth is at least 4x our earth size) since he stated he can destroy the earth if annoyed
It could be the case that cooler was, bojack is and garlic jr is canon... Although time would have to say that it's a different timeline as they show up and delay Goku arriving at kame house with Gohan by a bit so it's hard to say really. Wait no the use of the Dragonballs interferes with the anime, the Dragonballs wouldn't have been ready for when they were used canonically right?
So it's a sort of spurt bomb black hole? The deadzone is oof sure but also how can we say a high power level can't just go thru it in the way someone can break thru a hakai?
And technically we can't say the force it produces it equal to that of a black hole. Note also black holes don't actually eat matter up, they slingshot things around it. At a certain point you'd need to go faster than light to get into one... You'd have to be knocked into one at above Lightspeed or try to fly in faster than light. This is a direct pulling force straight towards itself no orbit required
Uh I am quite certain Vegeta hasn't arrived on earth at that time... We can't really say piccolo is fuzed... Do they even meantion namek?
So your saying this is fuzed piccolo, and Goku post namek who could whip out kaioken times 20, which is what 15 million power level? These guys could easily womp someone with 3 million power... Maybe not fuzed piccolo but Goku could just kaioken, this is well before Frieza was in the picture. Otherwise the androids would be nearly around, Goku would know super Saiyan, and trunks would wipe the floor with super garlic jr. Or this timeline has no super Saiyan, Frieza had to be cheesed with the spirit bomb, and kaioken times 15 Goku is still able to wipe the floor with super garlic jr. Power levels aside, Frieza's first form should be beyond garlic Jrs upper form... So he couldn't really clash with second form Frieza as first form Frieza is dwarf star level casually... And thus nail fuzed piccolo would one handed womp super garlic jr. And yes the dead zone... But recoome also tries to use an attack that takes time to use, a bit more that a second... As he goes to use it piccolo can drop him. So this is either after Vegeta got handled, or just before raditz kidnaps Gohan at roshis house, maybe around the time raditz arrived on earth
One of those pamphlets said Burma had a power level of 150. That's 30 times stronger than the farmer with the shotgun.
I have some info to give on heroes garlic junior do you have a discord server ?
Things like the multiplier for him and maybe a way to scale him relative to heroes characters
Is goku jr canon?Will garlicjr return in Dragon ball super future movie?
It's not canon to mainline db or Dbs but it is part of GT canon.
I mean he is immortal which means every attack to him will get healed he can open up the dead zone he made his own dead zone in the garlic jr filler arc so yeah he's pretty strong