HOW TO PASS THE PATENT BAR
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- Опубликовано: 19 окт 2024
- I just passed the patent bar and figured I would share my experience after failing two other times. Drop any and all questions below if they are not answered in the video.
If necessary, I can also do a separate video on how to register for/sign-up for the patent bar.
Enjoy!!
As someone who is starting to study for this exam, this was really helpful! Thank you! If you plan to make more videos, I would love to see one about how to register for/sign-up for the patent bar.
I'll look into that! Thanks for the suggestion.
Thank you for being so honest. I have only taken it once, same without studying and only got 20%. You inspired me to try again.
That is awesome, I'm glad I was able to help. Absolutely try again!! It's demoralizing to fail, but it just feels that much better when you pass. You got this! :)
This video is so helpful. So hard to find information from people taking the patent bar. This video is a nugget of gold. I plan on taking the patent bar next year 🙏🏼
So glad it was helpful, goodluck!!
Love the content. Congrats on passing the exam and thank you so much for the advice!
Congrats on passing, I was wondering if you ever got the chance to post your notes online
This is awesome, thanks for sharing your experience. A lot of helpful tips. I plan on grabbing the PLI course this summer.
Of course! Glad you found this useful. Let me know if you have any other questions!
Super helpful info. I’m a mechanical engineer and currently help write patents at a small firm and I am seriously considering becoming a registered patent agent. It seems pretty daunting, especially while working full time and with the cost of the prep course. I’m thinking about just becoming more familiar with the mpep and trying to find practice questions to start out
I think it's doable, especially since you already have some exposure to the patent application process. You could just work with the 3 free exams posted on the USPTO website and practice looking up the answers using the pdf MPEP online. You also may be able to find some explanatory videos on RUclips to fill in the gaps as necessary.
It might be worthwhile to talk to your employer about getting some support for training courses and dedicated time per week for studying. They usually have a training budget allocated.
Congratulations on passing! Great tips! Thanks so much!
when you said you did practice questions, did you get them from the USPO or the PLI course?
Hi, thank you very much for sharing your experience with this exam. Super helpful! 😊I'm currently preparing for it and have applied to several law schools with the goal of becoming a patent lawyer. I noticed your channel is based in San Diego, and coincidentally, I'm in the Del Mar area too. Just wondering, if it's convenient for you, would you be open to meeting for coffee? I'd love to hear more about your experience as a patent lawyer. Thank you very much😊
Hi! I'd totally meet for a coffee to answer any questions you have. Reach out over email - coastalxxchange@gmail.com
Hello! Thank you for doing this video! I’m taking the Patent Bar in a month, and I’ve been doing a ton of questions to prepare. I feel more comfortable every time I finish and review a round of practice questions. Could you perhaps provide your notes? Would love to see how you were able to divide information into categories. Thanks!
Hi Jake! Practice questions are DEFINITELY the way to go. Here is the link to my notes:
www.etsy.com/listing/1487417493/patent-bar-study-bundle
You got this!
@@surfinsd Thank you so much!
Will you make a video also for how to submit an application for a patent bar?
This was really helpful thank you!
Thanks for sharing this! Great advise.
My pleasure!
Here is the link to my Etsy page that has all my notes organized and compiled into one place:
coastalxxchange.etsy.com
Feel free to email me any questions you have at:
coastalxxchange@gmail.com
Thanks!
Thank you so much for sharring !!!! I wish I saw this video eariler. I didn't focus as much on the skill of looking up information in the MPEP during my first attempt, relying more on my memory and understanding of MPEP 700 and 2100. I absolutely agree that becoming familiar and comfortable with the MPEP through question look-up is crucial. Following your advice, I'm doing 50 questions with look-up every day until my second try. Could I ask about your correction rate and speed at the end of your preparation? Thanks!
Hi! It's hard to give an exact speed as I don't remember my timing beyond just being able to answer and look up information within the practice exam time constraints. However, when I first started, it did take me a little longer, and slowly I did become faster. By exam day I was able to look up (or at least know where to look up) each question within the requisite time. There were even some practice exams that I was able to finish early, but on the actual exam I had to guess on the last 2 questions in each section. So maybe shooting for finishing practice exams 15 min early is a good timing goal, just so you have some wiggle room to work with on exam day. By exam day I was getting 70-80% correct on the USPTO released exams.
@@surfinsd Thanks!!!! I am having my second try in two weeks and I felt I can always spend more time on this and never prepare enough. Thank you for our information!
@@MangoCreamIceBar Hi there! Just curious if you had an update. Did you pass on your second try?
I am happy to share with you that I have passed! Your tips are very helpful for me! @@surfinsd
@@MangoCreamIceBarWOOHOO!! Congratulations 😊
Great perseverance on your part. I Started studying today. I like how you reverse engineered gaining of knowledge from the questions itself. Btw let us hopeful’s know did passing the patent bar help you find a job ? I’ve gotten my nj license now taking patent bar.
I would say that having passed the patent bar is definitely a plus because 1 you won't have to spend time to take it when you start employment, and 2 it shows employers you are serious about wanting to prosecute patents. However, I would say what helped me find a job was networking as much as possible after passing the patent bar.
Great video. found it inspirational.
I'm glad! Crush the patent bar :)
2q , 1. Can you get to be patient attorney as autodidact? .
2. Can you give a full book recommendation that you use to learn ? .
Congrats on passing! Looking up 95 percent of the exam, did you get or believe you got about 95 percent of it correct? I am interested in this strategy because I previously read that you could only reasonably expect to look up around 9 questions.
Thank you! It's hard to say what my score was in the actual exam, but on full-length practice exams that I took right before the real one, I was scoring in the low 80% range. There would always be a few questions I just couldn't find or were randomly super difficult.
Hello, I am currently studying the exam. I think my biggest issue is how to look things up. I know people say use CTrl F, but sometimes I see where the information is and I am not sure how it applies to the question. Do you have any advice on this?
great video. I am giving the exam on 1st week of july. How can I get connected with you for getting some tips on notes?
Hi, thanks! You can email me at: coastalxxchange@gmail.com
Are the correct answers typically word-for-word as provided in the MPEP, or are they mostly "trick" answers (e.g. the LSAT had "trick" answers where the prompt would say "some", but a wrong answer would use the word "most")?
In other words, will the correct answer be obvious assuming you are able to correctly locate the relevant section?
Thank you and congrats!
Yes! I did not find there to be any "trick" answers so long as I was able to locate the wording in the MPEP. The correct answer would stand out once I was in the right chapter. If I couldn't find the wording in an answer, I was typically in the wrong chapter.
@@surfinsd Thank you so much!
Hi! Thank you for sharing your experience, it is very helpful and inspirational. I took the exam once but failed. Now I'm trying to employ your strategy when you passed it. I would have loved to create my own outline but am a little short on time. Is there a way that you could share your notes? That would be extremely helpful. Thank you so much.
Oh, I actually just saw a link you shared to somebody else's comment. Went ahead and got them from Etsy. Thank you so much! This is so motivating.
@@joyced6309Glad you found it. Let me know if you have any questions & goodluck!
Did you end up scanning your notes that u could share?
Do you have links for any resources I could use to pass the patent exam?
Where do you get the practice exam questions?
Where can I find the USPTO practice exams? I have been all over trying to find them. Could someone drop a link?
I think it is odd to actually find the right steps and links to sign up to take the patent bar exam and the specifics around that.
I'll look into making a video about that!
hi! I'm taking the patent bar in 3 weeks, and I was wondering if there was a way I could reach out to you to chat more about your experience?
Sure, feel free to email me at coastalxxchange@gmail.com
What is your sceintific background? I am a current BS in Chemistry, working in biomedical research, unsure if I get an MS/MEng/PhD/JD.
I have a BS in Neuroscience and spent some time in a Chemical & environmental engineering lab during undergrad. I am now an attorney. I have heard of people getting their MS or PhD prior to law school, but I was not aware of such until after I got my JD. I have also seen people enter the patent realm just with a PhD. I don't have either an MS or PhD so I think additional schooling is helpful, but I wouldn't say one degree is more important than another. This all also depends on what kind of job you are aiming for.
Hi. I'm not from the U.S. But I am interested in taking this exam. Could you please help me- how I can proceed in this.
www.uspto.gov/learning-and-resources/patent-and-trademark-practitioners/becoming-patent-practitioner/registration
Here is a good place to start in figuring out the requirements/registration process!
Where did you find the 1100 questions?
All my questions were from PLI. The USPTO also has 3 practice exams that are publicly shared on their website.
I tried to do all the 1100 questions including the customized exams. It turned out that there are a lot of old law questions in customized exam which is out of date. I did not encounter any old law questions myself and I have not heard anyone who had old law questions in 2023.
Studying for the patent bar is like studying a bunch of frcp rules is there a more better way of making a coherent it’s very choppy to memorize
I agree, it is very choppy to memorize. What helped me was drawing out flowcharts/grouping topics together based on when they would come into play during the prosecution process. I mainly used that method for patent/application challenges, and it is given to you in my Etsy bundle linked above. But for example, I would group challenges together that apply during a pending application, then group everything together that applies after final rejection, etc.. Grouping topics, chronologically, based on when they actually can be utilized helped me a lot.
Want to do an internship?
Hi there Congratulations on passing the patent bar and nice talk. Would you be kind enough to share your email. Thanks