Germany didn't change a bit, it just hiding its true colors. Remember most of hitl@r cabinet worked for German government and state and military untill the 80s
History is written by the victors. Humans are fundamentally flawed. If you think every great war or movement is free from exploitation, murder and or terror you are so lost. There is no right side of history in this war.
Hamas is an autocratic organization of terrorism. Israel is a democratic country with freedom of press. The Israeli Arabs in Israel can critize the government of Israel. It is wrong to be on the side of Hamas. The Palestinians never critize Hamas but it doesn't mean that Hamas is the right organization for the Palestinians.
I must say that I virtually do not see such reports in prominent German spoken media. While this report is for an international audience, the media in Germany in their German spoken program for the German population very rarely report about this systematic torture on a giant scale which affects virtually everybody of the thousands of Palestinian prisoners. While Germany's official call for the release of the Israeli hostages is absolutely necessary, morally imperative, and correct, I am missing any official call of the Germany government for the release of the Palestine prisoners (of whom many are like hostages) and the termination of their systematic torture. As a German citizen, my impression is that the German government and most media do not regard all people as having the same human value and the same right to life.
Gaza and west bank infact biggest open air prison... Germany can never be in the right side of history... Once carried a genocide and now arming a genocide !!
Germany is always on the wrong side of history. The German people have the strength to change that if they cared for humans as no human should ever go through that
The majority of them are hostages not detainees, a big number of them are women and they have young kids amongst them too. This is reported by izraelis groups too
Its not a prison if people there arent charged with any crimes. These are detention camps, many of the people inside entirely innocent, many minors. Otherwise they wouldnt have released over 40% of them back (after months of torture)
Keep in mind that Israel is also currently holding Palestinian children in these camps. They have been for decades. A 7 year old Palestinian boy was recently released.
I bought the book "Shadows Over Gaza," with 50% of the Selling going to support Palestine. It would be great if others could buy the book too, as this way we can help to those who need our help
@@emamshaon581nonsense, in World War Two the Soviets only liberated the camps in the territory it captured. There were camps all over Germany, they were liberated by different allied forces.
@@adamredwine774true, but still it had resemblance. For that I think what they will do if they don't had to worry about public opinion? And what is it that we don't know?
@@canitbethatin the conflict Israel x palestinians, the right side is definitely the palestinians. Israel is the opressor, they have powerful weapons, and are massacring a civilian population. It is genocide, the whole world can see It, only germans refuse to see It.
@@canitbethat life is not either/or. You are presenting a false dichotomy, being opposed to Israel torturing in no way suggests you support anyone torturing an Israeli.
@@nickorme8112 I'm pretty sure the OP is criticizing Germany for failing to embargo arms to Israel. AFAIK, Germany has never supported Israeli use of torture, but Germany is allowing the sale of weapons to support the Israeli effort to fight Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas, and the Houthis. This is presumably how the OP considers Germany to be on "the wrong side of history."
@@canitbethat Perhaps, I won't speak for OP, but you are the one suggesting they support Iran and their proxies if they do not support Israel as being on the right side of history. I'm saying there are third choices, not aligning with either and condemning both. Leveraging diplomatic, economic, and political to push for a ceasefire and humanitarian assistance for Palestinians does not require aligning Hamas or anyone else. The right side of history is not on choosing one political ideology, ethnic group, or organization, but siding with our shared humanity. Even when, especially when, any of those groups denies that human dignity to another.
I just made the same comment and then saw yours. Spot on. Why are they suddenly allowed to tell this well known truth? Soon, they will start reporting on October 6th.
@@markfitzpatrick7186It’s because alternative media and social media coverage of it is so widespread that to continue to ignore it undermines this news organization’s credibility. As a news organization, credibility is everything. So they cover it whether they want to or not.
I don’t know what to say or do. We failed as human beings in allowing this idea of Zionism! How can anyone say this is not a genocide. This is so wrong and these beautiful amazing Palestinian people deserve safety and peace. The world is praying for Palestine ❤🇵🇸
If in the future the occupiers/oppressors are treated like how they treated the Palestinians; will the Americans and Europeans show the same indifference?
What human rights organization say about Israeli hostages being held in Gaza underground? Any information about that? Anything at all? When was the last time human rights activists visited and checked on them?
That is true. The UK started the war over 75 years ago. But this is of little relevance in the effort to find a peaceful resolution to a war which has raged for 75 years.
Whataboutism is the last refuge of the supporter of barbarity and dehumanization. As Masha Gessen wrote, it's time to compare: this is the modern day incarnation of the worst of early 20th century European ideology.
None of the Israeli hostages were raped or tortured by Hamas and not one Israeli has reported being raped on October 7. Also, the Israeli military admitted that they killed many Israelis themselves, on October 7, when they implemented the Hannibal Directive. Didn't you see the recent article in the Israeli newspaper, Haaretz?
Ask the three Israeli hostages that escaped from Hamas and waiving white flags surrendered to the IDF. Oh that's right, you can't because the IDF blew them away.
@@marilepine1 really? Then why we see beaten Israeli woman that is been captive by Hamas? You don't see that video while she been parade inside Gaza? Is that treated well?.
this is the worst title you can give , do you answer the question?? no ! jest let "human rights" activists say what thay want with no counter argument or conflicting information
Can you refer? The videos of the released prisoners of the Israeli's speak of abuse etc. The hostages released by Hama's do not speak of the same treatment. Not saying it would be a pleasant experience in captivity, but it has been very clear in the way the prisoners/hostages have been treated..
Hey everyone, I'm asking you to focus on other countries around the world. There are enough countries doing terrible things, so let's leave Israel alone to fight for her survival against those who don’t want her to exist.
@@AroojBokhari No, it's true. However bad prisons may be in other middle-eastern countries, you're not likely to see exposés about them. That doesn't mean Israel shouldn't do better, just that there's no way to compare.
Thank goodness Israel is a modern democratic state where abuses can be exposed and addressed. If only Palestinians shared the same values, there wouldn’t be a war.
Israel is an apartheid state. Listen to the reporter: Thousands of palestinians are picked up from the street and thrown in prison camps without trial. Not to mention the systematic torture. Palestinians have no judicial, democratic or human rights in this apartheid state.
Except the Israeli government does not accept that, I believe it was the times of Israel, maybe the Jerusalem post, just did piece about government censorship specifically regarding "administrative detention" where most of it was blacked out because Israeli law says its illegal to report on their kidnapping and abuse of detainees without criminal charge or trial. This is the exception to crimes in Israeli prisons being exposed, not the rule.
They did criticize and specifically call out Hamas for taking hostages, in several statements. Hypocrisy would be ignoring this and giving the Israeli government a free pass.
@@Kohen124 I sincerely do not know how to interpret that comment. What are you trying to say, that Israel's actions are justified because it's them doing it, and everyone else is a hypocrite?
@@nickorme8112 By the way, the last time we were unable to defend ourselves we lost 6 million of our people, now we can defend ourselves and we are not willing to lose any more from the hypocrites and their critics.
I was disappointed not to see any representative of the Israeli government or military interviewed as part of this piece. I also didn't hear it said that any were invited and declined, so does that mean none were invited? We're told that Israel disputes these claims, so shouldn't we hear them tell their side of the story?
@@wtrujillo9250 ...but were they invited to be interviewed for this piece, or were only their accusers invited? There's no Israeli government representative interviewed here, nor any mention of this Israeli government having declined to send one.
Wow! How vile to say that! Neither his son nor he was a terrorist. But rapist IDF criminals certainly are terrorists and war criminals. Any words for the rapists?
They care not what they do to others they only care what happens to themselves., nothing will change until Palestinians understand there actions have consequences
@@canitbethat As a former army officer, I have read the Geneva Convention. I am referring to the Geneva Convention and not to Israeli law, which I assure you I have not read. I doubt that Israeli law considers terrorist attacks not to be a crime, but it is a possibility that Israel loves to have its citizens killed by terrorists and therefore does not punish terrorists. Read the Israeli laws and confirm that terrorists are not subject to any article of the law. In that case, you will know whether Israel is violating its laws.
Germany went from being the oppressors to supporting and arming the oppressors. Such progress.
Germany managed something truly amazing: to get another people to pay for its crimes.
Germany didn't change a bit, it just hiding its true colors. Remember most of hitl@r cabinet worked for German government and state and military untill the 80s
Exactly!
Germany has and will always been on the wrong side of history since the turn of the century.
Colonial power supports colonial power.. what a surprice
Where sanctions against Israel?
only russia & iran.
Cncntration c4mps were moved to Pal.!
Israel 🇮🇱 is doing everything they want because the U.S.A and EUROPEAN stand for them.niw EUROPEAN are happy what Israel is doing.
How about Germany stops arming them and stands on the right side of history for once!
What is the right side of history?.
@@GolDRoger-fx2fp The fact that you're asking and the history of your comments says it all! Never forget that fascism is always defeated!
@@GolDRoger-fx2fpthe non-rape side.
History is written by the victors. Humans are fundamentally flawed. If you think every great war or movement is free from exploitation, murder and or terror you are so lost. There is no right side of history in this war.
Hamas is an autocratic organization of terrorism.
Israel is a democratic country with freedom of press. The Israeli Arabs in Israel can critize the government of Israel.
It is wrong to be on the side of Hamas. The Palestinians never critize Hamas but it doesn't mean that Hamas is the right organization for the Palestinians.
I must say that I virtually do not see such reports in prominent German spoken media. While this report is for an international audience, the media in Germany in their German spoken program for the German population very rarely report about this systematic torture on a giant scale which affects virtually everybody of the thousands of Palestinian prisoners. While Germany's official call for the release of the Israeli hostages is absolutely necessary, morally imperative, and correct, I am missing any official call of the Germany government for the release of the Palestine prisoners (of whom many are like hostages) and the termination of their systematic torture. As a German citizen, my impression is that the German government and most media do not regard all people as having the same human value and the same right to life.
Es ist traurig das uns bewusst Informationen enthalten werden.
Gaza and west bank infact biggest open air prison...
Germany can never be in the right side of history... Once carried a genocide and now arming a genocide !!
Concentration camps were moved to Palestine!
Cncntration c4mps were moved to Pal.!
Germany is always on the wrong side of history. The German people have the strength to change that if they cared for humans as no human should ever go through that
The majority of them are hostages not detainees, a big number of them are women and they have young kids amongst them too. This is reported by izraelis groups too
That’s shameful.This needs to be investigated!!
Cncntration c4mps were moved to Pal.!
Germany has blood on their hands for this
Isreal learned well from the germans
And from putin's regime
Ironic but true! What a shame
And from their USA friends, probably got the instructions booklet from Guantanamo torture camp 😒
@@nanucit Dont forget about Abu-Gharib. This is more closer to germans though
@@lilyayusupova2932you mean nato
It's no longer possible to ignore the obvious.
Concentration camps were moved to Palestine!
Cncntration c4mps were moved to Pal.!
Its not a prison if people there arent charged with any crimes. These are detention camps, many of the people inside entirely innocent, many minors. Otherwise they wouldnt have released over 40% of them back (after months of torture)
This is not new
'Most moral', says Netanyahu.
Self defense.
@@1Naturalscene Abusing someone incapable of fighting back is not self defense. It's cowardice and petty vengefulness.
Quit calling them detention facilities and call them what they are and thats CONCENTRATION CAMPS
This has been going on for decades it's just finnaly coming out for the media!
Concentration camps were moved to Palestine!
Cncntration c4mps were moved to Pal.!
Why is the Red Cross not allowed to enter these prisons and concentration camps?
Because Israel doesn't want anybody to know about their daily abuse of the Palestinians.
IDF investigating. What a joke.
Dw has been manufacturing consent for all of this since the first days. Your hands are not clean
They didn't cover the pro-rape riot in Israel either.
DW has been as complicit as BBC
Becoming what they have hated the most
Why hasn’t the Red Cross visited the hostages
Israel does not allow them in.
Keep in mind that Israel is also currently holding Palestinian children in these camps. They have been for decades. A 7 year old Palestinian boy was recently released.
I bought the book "Shadows Over Gaza," with 50% of the Selling going to support Palestine. It would be great if others could buy the book too, as this way we can help to those who need our help
Will the Allies liberate these camps?
No, it is no good business nor they will have substantially more voters.
Britain and America have been enabling the Israelis for decades.
Allies are supporting this.
Allies never liberated the camps, it was Soviet Union who liberated the camps.
@@emamshaon581nonsense, in World War Two the Soviets only liberated the camps in the territory it captured.
There were camps all over Germany, they were liberated by different allied forces.
This looks like modern ausschwitz
No. It doesn’t look anything like that. Please learn history.
@@adamredwine774 cope
@@adamredwine774true, but still it had resemblance. For that I think what they will do if they don't had to worry about public opinion? And what is it that we don't know?
@@adamredwine774 Do you still believe exaggerated figures and stories?
Worse than Ausschwitz as now the world knows better!
Germany never learned and stand for the second time on the wrong side of history.
Are you suggesting that Iran/Hezbollah/Hamas/the Houthis represent the "right side of history?" Do you think Germany should stand with them?
@@canitbethatin the conflict Israel x palestinians, the right side is definitely the palestinians. Israel is the opressor, they have powerful weapons, and are massacring a civilian population. It is genocide, the whole world can see It, only germans refuse to see It.
@@canitbethat life is not either/or. You are presenting a false dichotomy, being opposed to Israel torturing in no way suggests you support anyone torturing an Israeli.
@@nickorme8112 I'm pretty sure the OP is criticizing Germany for failing to embargo arms to Israel. AFAIK, Germany has never supported Israeli use of torture, but Germany is allowing the sale of weapons to support the Israeli effort to fight Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas, and the Houthis. This is presumably how the OP considers Germany to be on "the wrong side of history."
@@canitbethat Perhaps, I won't speak for OP, but you are the one suggesting they support Iran and their proxies if they do not support Israel as being on the right side of history. I'm saying there are third choices, not aligning with either and condemning both. Leveraging diplomatic, economic, and political to push for a ceasefire and humanitarian assistance for Palestinians does not require aligning Hamas or anyone else. The right side of history is not on choosing one political ideology, ethnic group, or organization, but siding with our shared humanity. Even when, especially when, any of those groups denies that human dignity to another.
Germany knows everything about camps, from experience.
Suddenly DW journalists found something that whole is talking for a long time
Who his name is "Whole"
fearing "antisemitism"....
I just made the same comment and then saw yours. Spot on. Why are they suddenly allowed to tell this well known truth? Soon, they will start reporting on October 6th.
@@markfitzpatrick7186It’s because alternative media and social media coverage of it is so widespread that to continue to ignore it undermines this news organization’s credibility. As a news organization, credibility is everything. So they cover it whether they want to or not.
Let foreign reporter see these prisons. If they say no then we know the answer.
Finally , true reporting , how come
They learned well from the Germans.
What do you think the lesson was? I agree with your statement though
hmm where have we seen such camps before? ironic
Wow. DW is finally reporting this quite well known story. How did this come about?
So this story has been around for multiple weeks. Why not report it when it first broke?
When even DW can no longer turn a blind eye to the crimes of the most moral country in the world 😅
They learnt from the Best
Is this terrorism by definition ??
terrorism is the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims
I don’t know what to say or do. We failed as human beings in allowing this idea of Zionism!
How can anyone say this is not a genocide. This is so wrong and these beautiful amazing Palestinian people deserve safety and peace. The world is praying for Palestine ❤🇵🇸
The same things the us did.
Evil is as Evil does
Wowowowowowow when did DW become antisemitic? How dare they even question Israel?
When did Hamas ever investigate any of their officials for their treatment of Israelis?
Human dignity and human rights are the only possible role models for a world with a bright future !
Free Palestine
didn’t you guys write the book on this? it’s priceless hearing YOU report it
Be careful in fighting monsters that you don't become one yourself.
Germany always on the wrong side of history
the only democracy in the middle east shining in full glory - yet again!
The state of Israel should have been established in a part of Germany.
The Arabs allied with Germany.
Gee, bless their hearts
Scholz sollte mal in diesen Kerkers auch reingesteckt werden mit Annalena
If in the future the occupiers/oppressors are treated like how they treated the Palestinians; will the Americans and Europeans show the same indifference?
Dw news and whole of Germany is allowed this to happen.
What human rights organization say about Israeli hostages being held in Gaza underground? Any information about that? Anything at all? When was the last time human rights activists visited and checked on them?
Human rights orgs are not allowed into Gaza. Israel blocks them and journalists.
Is the UN already talking about sanctions.? And is there any progress on the arrest.
IDF, basically what you get when there are a large percent of Uday Hussains running around.
Despicable
Free palastine ❤
Den selben Bericht bitte nochmal auf Deutsch oder wird das bewusst vor den Deutschen verheimlicht?
Very disturbing news, but believable.
WHAT DID THEY DO TO DESERVE THIS?
Oct 7. What did they do?
R@ped and t0rtured children? I mean… that’s pretty bad.
@@adamredwine774. Lieing lier, as usual.
@@MaxGolden😅.... you think that lie still works?
@@MaxGolden +75 years of colonization...You have already harmed peaceful/savior Jesus...
They seem to have learned a lot of there old oppressors!!!
Yup
Cncntration c4mps were moved to Pal.!
Free Palestine
DW, কি হলো তোমাদের?
What about Hamas tratment of Isreali hostage.. I did not see any condemnation from UN for missles firing from Gaza..
Isreal did not start the war..
That is true. The UK started the war over 75 years ago.
But this is of little relevance in the effort to find a peaceful resolution to a war which has raged for 75 years.
Whataboutism is the last refuge of the supporter of barbarity and dehumanization. As Masha Gessen wrote, it's time to compare: this is the modern day incarnation of the worst of early 20th century European ideology.
Whataboutism is the last refuge of the supporter of barbarity and dehumanization..
None of the Israeli hostages were raped or tortured by Hamas and not one Israeli has reported being raped on October 7. Also, the Israeli military admitted that they killed many Israelis themselves, on October 7, when they implemented the Hannibal Directive. Didn't you see the recent article in the Israeli newspaper, Haaretz?
Israel sudah memulai dahulu sejak 75tahun menjajah.memguser menguser warga Palestina dari tanah sendiri.membunuh membantai sudah jadi kebiasaan Israel
The morality of European
ช่วยดูเด็กๆด้วยเอาเด็กเป็นตัวประกัน
How about Hamas how they treat their captives?.
They treated their captives Very well. Please do your research and find out what they hostages tell. They were well fed, nobody touched them.
@@marilepine1 you're living in a different reality
Ask the three Israeli hostages that escaped from Hamas and waiving white flags surrendered to the IDF. Oh that's right, you can't because the IDF blew them away.
@@marilepine1 really? Then why we see beaten Israeli woman that is been captive by Hamas? You don't see that video while she been parade inside Gaza?
Is that treated well?.
They treated them poorly. So in what way does your whataboutism justify this?
this is the worst title you can give , do you answer the question?? no !
jest let "human rights" activists say what thay want with no counter argument or conflicting information
Dude, the question mark was DW's way of doing you a favour. Take the win.
Israel
Palestinians are not saint either. International laws need to be respected from both sides.
Sukti mach flavor???????????
Hello
DW, make a video about how Israeli hostages treated by Palestinians
They have many times, everyone gets that hamas is mistreating the hostages.
Neutral here , I feel they ve done so a few times , however I rarely see a video like this , I m a bit surprised
Exactly
Can you refer? The videos of the released prisoners of the Israeli's speak of abuse etc. The hostages released by Hama's do not speak of the same treatment. Not saying it would be a pleasant experience in captivity, but it has been very clear in the way the prisoners/hostages have been treated..
Not hostages; armed colonizers....
Say DW... How does Hamas care for the Israeli hostages? Do you know?
And as well interesting how does Natanyahu care for the Israeli hostages ?
This is called whataboutism. Don't forget that Netanyahu likes Hamas.
Hey everyone, I'm asking you to focus on other countries around the world. There are enough countries doing terrible things, so let's leave Israel alone to fight for her survival against those who don’t want her to exist.
Israel is the only democratic country in that region where there is free press.
What a joke lol!
@@AroojBokhari No, it's true. However bad prisons may be in other middle-eastern countries, you're not likely to see exposés about them. That doesn't mean Israel shouldn't do better, just that there's no way to compare.
No there is no free press. People are being detained for protesting against the government.
@@canitbethatI mean it's NOT true
not anymore..... try and keep up and leave fantasy island behind.
Is Hamas extremists released all kidnapped and abused hostages from Israel ?
I wonder why 400 years of prosecution happened to this groups of small hats. Being kicked out many countries till the boats arrived in Middle East 😂
Thank goodness Israel is a modern democratic state where abuses can be exposed and addressed. If only Palestinians shared the same values, there wouldn’t be a war.
Very true
Israel is an apartheid state. Listen to the reporter: Thousands of palestinians are picked up from the street and thrown in prison camps without trial. Not to mention the systematic torture.
Palestinians have no judicial, democratic or human rights in this apartheid state.
Hoping, this is meant to be ironic.
@@AroojBokhari it is not.
Except the Israeli government does not accept that, I believe it was the times of Israel, maybe the Jerusalem post, just did piece about government censorship specifically regarding "administrative detention" where most of it was blacked out because Israeli law says its illegal to report on their kidnapping and abuse of detainees without criminal charge or trial. This is the exception to crimes in Israeli prisons being exposed, not the rule.
"I guess HRW has no complaints about the way Hamas is treating its kidnapped hypocrites."
They did criticize and specifically call out Hamas for taking hostages, in several statements. Hypocrisy would be ignoring this and giving the Israeli government a free pass.
@@nickorme8112
Measure for measure by Yisra'el against its enemies regardless of their hypocrisy.
@@Kohen124 I sincerely do not know how to interpret that comment. What are you trying to say, that Israel's actions are justified because it's them doing it, and everyone else is a hypocrite?
@@nickorme8112
If they wish for the extermination of your people, and the destruction of your nation, what do you think you should do about it?
@@nickorme8112
By the way, the last time we were unable to defend ourselves we lost 6 million of our people, now we can defend ourselves and we are not willing to lose any more from the hypocrites and their critics.
I was disappointed not to see any representative of the Israeli government or military interviewed as part of this piece. I also didn't hear it said that any were invited and declined, so does that mean none were invited? We're told that Israel disputes these claims, so shouldn't we hear them tell their side of the story?
They say there is a list of
@@abdullahsiraj3217 Sorry, I don't understand your reply. Is part of it missing?
Israel's response is that the IDF is investigating......
@@wtrujillo9250 ...but were they invited to be interviewed for this piece, or were only their accusers invited? There's no Israeli government representative interviewed here, nor any mention of this Israeli government having declined to send one.
Well if that guys son wasnt a terrorist,maybe he wouldnt have been arrested. Dont raise your children to be terrorists
Wow! How vile to say that! Neither his son nor he was a terrorist. But rapist IDF criminals certainly are terrorists and war criminals. Any words for the rapists?
Look at Brazilian, coasta rica, Mexican jails
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@@ardiii746 you are notorious bastards nowadays.
🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
I had a bruise!!! ooooohhhh poor thing
"An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth"?
They care not what they do to others they only care what happens to themselves., nothing will change until Palestinians understand there actions have consequences
Israeli's will always tell you what has been done to them. But never why.
Do Islam respect other religions?
yes
No
Just to remind you; The Geneva Convention does not apply to terrorists.
Human rights apply to every human being !
Doesn't apply to teghoghists? So that's why Israel is ignoring it? Thanks for the confirmation. Or should that be Freudian slip?
The same old argument used against the likes of the IRA, Azov, East Turkestan Liberation Organization etc.
I think the question here won't be whether they're violating the Geneva Conventions, but whether they've violating Israeli law.
@@canitbethat As a former army officer, I have read the Geneva Convention. I am referring to the Geneva Convention and not to Israeli law, which I assure you I have not read.
I doubt that Israeli law considers terrorist attacks not to be a crime, but it is a possibility that Israel loves to have its citizens killed by terrorists and therefore does not punish terrorists.
Read the Israeli laws and confirm that terrorists are not subject to any article of the law. In that case, you will know whether Israel is violating its laws.
I used to think this channel is not biased.... but it is....
Lol!! What a joke.. shame on DW
this is dangerously not true
amateur reporting.
DW I used to respect you a lot but not anymore
DW would cry if they went into US prisons 😂
what happened?
The just changed the name and logo same thing
Eye for an eye