450FT-LBS Torque? Really? The 20V Bauer 1/2" Impact Couldnt Do It
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- 20V Bauer Hypermax Lithium 1/2" Impact driver from Harbor Freight. Let put it through its paces and see what this impact driver can do. Testing this against a DeWalt 1/2" impact. The Bauer claims 450 FT-LBS of breakaway torque and while I unfortunately don't have a good way of accurately measure this, throwing this up against a DeWalt 1/2 impact that is supposed to have 400 FT-LBs of breakaway torque was quite revealing!
While this seems like a good impact, I don't think it lives up to its 450 FL-LBS or torque.
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Tractor rear wheel: starts with the Bauer and finishes with the DeWalt.
"Let's try taking out a fresh bolt here with the DeWalt."
Proceeds to start with the Bauer and finish with the DeWalt, again.
Well the Bauer couldn’t do it so wanted to see if the DeWalt could
@@radozeman You clearly said you would see if the DeWalt could do a fresh bolt, then proceeded with the Bauer again. You never did a "fresh" bolt with the DeWalt.
"Let's try taking out a fresh bolt here with the DeWalt."
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...then you use the Bauer, which means it's no longer a "fresh bolt" when you put the DeWalt on it.
I'm not the only one who caught this, either; read other comments below.
Leland Fried I was thinking the same thing. 🤔🤷🏻♂️
Leland Fried true that!!!hahahaha
Upgraded from an older 18v kit. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxW1vOBRCMrgTCDEijzpVzDWsgI-Jm2iQv I independently chose the drill and impact tool, before I came across the kit.I like the 3 speed impact gun. It seems more powerful than my older one, and it can be set to be really gentle. The drill is more appropriately sized for my use. I used to have a hammer drill, but I did not like that it was so big and it was not a great hammer drill. I rather have a smaller drill like this, and then get a corded hammer drill for the odd case I need that.
"Well some of you might argue that the Bauer did all of the work for the Dewalt, so let's start with a fresh bolt." Starts again with the Bauer and finishes with the Dewalt.....
Ernie Schatz dewalts are trash as well
And the higher voltage battery.
@@travischampagne3252 I will stand behind my dewalt. I use it to remove semi wheels with no problem
Bro even used the bigger battery smh I don’t care for the brands but at least do a honest review 😂
He also didn’t have the 8 amp hour battery that improves the Bauer by a lot.
*This was a really good deal for **MyBest.Tools** and adding in another drill driver is great. Arrived the next day after the order was placed. Happy with the purchase and love using Dewalt.*
Same place everything is made… China
If you're working on engines the bauer works just fine for removing bolts on intakes and accessories, transmission bellhousing bolts, transfer case bolts and works with just about all parts. It's cheaper and it works decent. I've been using the earthquake xt for over two years and it never let's me down. I have the little bauer 125 and it works perfectly fine. I'm looking at the bauer now for an inbetween impact. I work gas and diesel engines for a living and I haven't had many issues.
Dude starts off by saying "No battery level indicator" It's on the battery, and we all know they don't charge them up 100%. So right away I knew it was a Harbor Freight hate video.
@David Sanchez Harbor Freight is getting better... They have some Nice Home Owner Tools...
The (Dude) does not hate H-F. He just knows there junk low price ,use once or twice tools .If this guy wasn't so funny with his sarcasm of the english language on these junk tools ,most of us would never watch the videos
@@roguewarr4662 a lot of what Hf sells is junk but if you do your research they also sell some great tools the 1/2 breaker bar is a stellar value at 15 bucks the US general boxes are pretty darn good and the 3 ton super duty jack is as good as the snap-on
@@aaronporter2180 Mr PORTER your right ,they do sell some good tools ,and are getting better all the time .And as always low prices . Just think ,where would we go if we did not have a H/F nearby .Flea market!!!!!!
I own a few Bauer tools, they are very strong and nice battery check is on every battery, gotta use the right size battery too
You literally said you were going to try a second bolt on the big tire with the DeWalt without using the Bouer on it first then you do the exact same thing and use the Bouer on it first.
I was but the Bauer wasn’t loosening the bolt at all.
You still used the Bauer first.that really kills the video for me.you should've just hit the bottom bolt, not that hard my guy 🤷🏽♂️. Even if it didn't move, the Dewalt didn't have to deal with the rust that the Bauer shook up
You beat me to it. Yea it makes no sense
Not an accurate test, I'll watch someone else testing these products.
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its not just the voltage that makes the difference but the amount of cells each pack has. the 3ah pack has more cells than the 1.5ah one and can deliver more current at the same voltage. id point out the other flaws but others have already covered them. i have no doubt the dewalt is simply just better but not by much and especially after seeing it perform nearly the same as the bauer with twice the available current draw... and when it came to the test where the bauer failed the dewalt had 3 times the available current draw... why not keep the 3ah pack on the dewalt when you did the heavy duty test? im guessing you probably did initially but it failed just like the bauer did.
I was suspicious of the battery replacement on the Dewalt as well. Why would you do that???
I like to see when someone else has several different brands of drills, impacts, hand tools, etc. like I do. It helps me justify buying many of the same tools, but different brands. I like to compare how they all work, especially any HF tools. Thanks for the vids!
Hard to beat Harbor Freight for just the average DIYer
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I think I'll end up buying the Bauer impact to make maintaining my car easier and faster. Seems like it did a good job. Also I don't feel like spending 200+ dollars on a Milwaukee
Especially for occasional use, it should be perfect.
I learned the hard way that harbor freight has only a 90 day warranty. If you want a warranty that compares with the larger, well known brands, you must pay for it. Another thing about harbor freight is that they may not sell replacement parts for the item that you bought. Out of warranty with no extended warranty you may have to just throw it in the trash.
True, one way they cut costs, so far though I've had far better "warranty" experience with my local HF then I have had with one of the big name brands (Milwaukee).
I wonder why you used the bauer first on both lager bolts then used the dewalt. Not a fair comparison, why not try the dewalt on a fresh bolt ?
Bauer had plenty of time to break them loose but didn't the dewalt did it right away and it's rated at a lesser reverse torque than the Bauer . Harbor freight tools can be ok but they are never under rated they are usually fat on their ratings, so you're not going to get label claim for torque, but with more expensive tools you will probably get more than label claim .
@@yerwrng the dewalt had 3 times the torque because he switched to the 9ah pack. why do you think he switched to the 9 ah pack from the 3ah pack like the bauer had? because the dewalt performs exactly the same when supplied with equal amperage. the entire time he had 3ah batteries for both impacts but purposely chose to always use a bigger pack for the dewalt than the bauer. when he used the 3ah for the dewalt he used the 1.5 for the bauer and when he used the 3ah for the bauer he used the 9ah for the dewalt. the dewalt had 2-3 times the available current draw the entire video.
@@Zack-dk3pt The Bauer uses a cheaper brushed motor Milwaukee, dewalt, mikita... they all offer brushless motors which are more powerful as well . The motor in this Bauer is brushed the dewalt is brushless .
The Bauer is something like $20 bucks cheaper than a Milwaukee...lol...I wouldn't touch a Bauer for that small difference you don't even get brushless motor.
There are a few tests in here comparing impacts the harbor freight never does rated torque the brand's like Milwaukee and dewalt always meet or exceed claimed specs.
@@yerwrng so there should have been no need to "cheat" with the dewalt then.... why is it so hard for people to acknowledge the fact that this guy fudged the results in favor of dewalt on purpose?
@@Zack-dk3pt on a comparison video it would be nice if the he kept things as close as possible not doing so shows bias intent to deceive in favor of one. I however have seen other videos of people breaking lugs with the Bauer and it failed when similar sized and rated Milwaukee fuel had no issues breaking them loose ...I own the Milwaukee fuel line nor dewalt so I don't have a dog in this fight, but I do see and agree with you on keeping a comparison video... honest...
You did it again! You can't start with one impact then switch to DeWalt on the SAME bolt! How about doing it in the reverse order? Ridiculous. Need to try on separate bolts.
I know right. I keep looking for reviews for the Bauer corded driver and most of the "hate" against it is from people who don't do an actual test with fair comparison. I know DeWalt is probably better quality wise, but I doubt it warrants a double price premium.
You sound pretty salty.
so basically for half the price of a dewalt and a better warranty for a cheaper price with no hassle i just shouldnt work on heady duty farm equipment 🤔🤔 got it . ill buy the bauer .
Yep, exactly!
Wrong this dam baur was not good enough to take of the nuts of my car, kept trying and battery started to smoke
If your car nuts are tightened to 100ft pounds or more by a shop add a little rust and time, and you have more lbs than this can handle
@@jameslopez2675 I've deliberately torqued a few lugnuts to 160ft.lbs and mine had no problem removing them. I've done over a dozen tire changes, brake jobs and axle/ wheel bearing replacements and my 1/2" Bauer didn't even struggle. I only use impact sockets, they deliver more torque and flex more than the hardened chrome sockets which can snap. I plan on doing an actual review of it in use on my channel pretty soon
I seen them for 59$ but that’s just the tool so pry 125
Dude you literally loosened all the bolts with the Bauer then finished them off with the dewalt. Not a good comparison video.
you said you would go to a fresh bolt the second time and didnt so i guess you work for Dewalt
At 13:40 if you study the socket closely you can see the Bauer just starting to turn the bolt right as he stops and switches to the Dewalt.
If you actually watch the torque movement he was tightening with the bauer
I seen that to. I have a bauer 1/2 I take to the race track never falls me yet and it's been 6 years since I got it. Just use the 50v battery.
Great review but you should have tried the DeWalt first on the lugs but you tried the Bauer and that might of loosened it up and made it easier for the DeWalt 👍
I picked up one on the last day of the sidewalk sale for $44.50. I don't use an impact that often, but even at the normal price point, its nice to have in the tool box.
Exactly impacts are always nice to, especially an extra.
HA! Similarly I lucked out at a local sidewalk sale about two weeks ago and also scored one about $45. I only seldom need such an impact so the full price is too much for my needs, but since I have other Bauer tools, the $45 is great. I like it. So far it's worked well in testing.
Michael Nice!
Hardly fair demo, Put a 60 Volt battery in the Bauer and let it follow the Dewalt with a 20 volt battery. You know DeWalt is owned by Stanley.
You do realize that the 60v battery is only 20v in that tool?! Putting 60v into 20v tool I don't think would end well.
@@radozeman Are you saying the Dewalt is a 60v tool?? I did not know they made a 60V tool. No wonder it is so much stronger??
At least bring the HF battery up to full charge first.
@@hpelisr the impact can only accept 20v that battery is rated up to 60v because it is interchangeable with tools that can accept up to 60v. that 60v rating has absolutely 0 affect on the performance of the impact vs a 20v max pack in the same situation. the only differences are how many cells are in a pack and how much of a charge they have. this is why he used a pack that had 2 to 3 times the available current draw for the dewalt compared tot he bauer the whole video because he intentionally gave the dewalt an unfair advantage to undermine the bauer.
Stupid vid. You used the Bauer first on both bolts to loosen it. Then you used 60 volt battery pack on De Walt. Lame! Not a true comparison
While I would not call the video “stupid”, I do believe your point about the 60v battery making the test null is what I have come to see in other videos where the author wants the DeWalt to win. Good job Jose.
@@grizmt7779 while it makes it less of an apples to apples comparison, I don't think it makes it invalid. He's using resources available to the DeWalt gun, but those resources aren't available for the HF gun.
AS he mentionend at the beginning its NOT a 60V Battery :/
Also he didnt loose the bolt with the Bauer, this gun had his chance. But the Dewalt opened it within only a few seconds/hits.
I believe that he proved the Bauer tool being more economical is easily able to do the job of a home mechanic on a regular road vehicle. The DeWalt is more capable than the Bauer but does everyone need it? A train locomotive is able to tow more than a 1-ton pickup but does everyone need it?
Lol. All of you are missing a really basic point. If he wanted a true comparison, each bolt should have been loosened by one power tool. One bolt for Bauer and another bolt for DeWalt. What did he do? Use Bauer on a bolt to loosen it for awhile. When it moved a bit, he used DeWalt ON THE SAME BOLT. SMH. What he should have done to prove that DeWalt was a true mechanic tool is loosen a separate bolt not already worked on by Bauer. If he showed this, it would prove Bauer is only for light work and DeWalt a true mechanic tool
The good thing about newer torque wrenches is the settings. I have the ridgid octane and tighten my lug nuts on setting 1. Works great for me
That is true!
What I got from this test was that for removing wheel lugs this is more than enough for what I need. I’ve seen so many Milwaukee’s that are $250+ and they all more or less have the same torque. I don’t need an overly expensive torque wrench for just removing wheel lugs. I don’t plan on working on tractors anytime soon
Perfect size for regular vehicle maintenance!
the extra adapter on the 3/4" socket will suck away a lot of torque, and upset the harmonic relationships that impact wrenches rely on to operate most efficiently.
This is true.
Yeah never understood adapters or extensions on Impact wrenches. That is why they have special hardened sockets. They have a special purpose. Ext/adapters shouldn't be used I thought...
The reason the capacity of the battery impacts how the tool performs is due to the discharge rate (C rating) of the battery. Lithium cells have a nominal voltage of 3.7v but honestly fluctuate from aboot 4.2v to 3.2 depending on how much charge is remaining. (They'll go below 3.2v sure, but generally considered dead at that point, and the protection circuitry usually will shut it off to protect it.) So your 18v or 20v packs will typically be 5 cells in serial. Generally the smallest battery will just be 5 single cells in serial, and will have an atrociously bad discharge rate. (This is especially noticeable with Ryobi's 1.2ah cheap packs.)
Going up a step in capacity generally means going into a battery that has multiple cells in parallel as well. So for ryobi their 2.4ah pack is 2 stacks of 5 cells in series. This yields a flat out doubling of the discharge rate on the battery pack. Now if your tool is attempting to draw say 15 amps, but your cells can only sustain 10amps, single stack batteries are going to limit the performance. Double stacks will handle the 15 amps just fine. Sadly few tool manufacturers actually list the C-rating for the batteries, so this can be hard to easily demonstrate.
As for your 20v/40v flexpower pack, it almost certainly has 4 stacks of batteries, and mosfets to switch half the stacks from parallel to serial. It is unsurprising that it would give superior performance when it has a C-rating of "yes" :)
Totally agree bud , all my phantom and other drone batteries i have all display a C rating although in cheaper batteries i think the companys just make shit up 👍👍
The flex volts would actually be 3 stacks of 20. And yes your right they don't list their discharge rate, unfortunately I think most people think the amp-hour rating on the battery is that, when it is not.
We use torque sticks in my shop but as a tip for the new guys we always tell them "you cant get fired for over torquing the wheels, but you can get fired if they fall off"
Very good point!
No, but you can decimate the chrome covers on the lug nuts by over impacting them. My wife got new tires and a shop trainee trashed 12 of the lug nuts and they tried to charge me an ungodly amount to replace them by saying that it "just happens". I knew better and got them to eat the cost but how many don't fight them? It's about being proud. Be a professional, do it right.
@@RadicalMaximus it actually does happen, those suck and shouldn't come from the manufacturer. I've removed those just by taking the lug nuts off. I work for a chevy dealership now and even here we tell customers it happens.
@@StillElias Mine were all just fine for 10+ years and one shop ruined half of them in one tire change. They set the torque too high to put the nuts on faster rather than relying on the hammer action. Once they are tightened the wrench keeps hammering until the caps are ruined. Once in awhile one might just come off but if it happens often it is the wrench setting or the operator.
@@RadicalMaximus sounds like they used the wrong size socket. From my years of experience I can say with confidence that shouldn't happen.
When I come across really overtightened lugs I just get my mg725 out if the lug won't come loose it'll break the stud right off
Unless rusted on for some reason should never need to be that tight.
@@radozeman your right but its still quite often.
my mt2769 outperforms snap ons and about the same as IRs
@RDAllen some WD-40 may help.
Good video. My last duty station in the Navy was a Squadron in the Philippines. Ordered a Chicago Electric in 1990 from Harbor Freight. Used it to remove a primary sprocket nut on my Harley Davidson . Worked good and it still works. Even tough got to plug it in.
I can't wait till beuer come out with that 8 amp battery coming soon lol
That would nice for some of the larger tools!
I was having tons of trouble getting 1/2" diameter bed bolts out of a 40 year old Chevy truck none of my air or battery impacts came close. I bought a HF earthquake xt 20v 1/2" that claimed 1200 ft.lbs. it still did not remove the nuts on all of them, it did however twist them into like they had been put into a pencil sharpener. I was very impressed. It is the only impact I use now for over a year. Wouldn't trade it for 2 DeWalts.
Oh yes that thing is a beast!
The Bauer impact had a slightly drained battery, whereas the Dewalt with the more powerful battery had plenty of juice to continue with the larger tractor tire.
Some of the latest impact wrenches from Harbor Freight appear to have undergone some improvements and may be able to hold their own in your 'testing' procedures.
That is true, Harbor Freight does have larger impact wrenches.
I agree w/everyone you used the Bauer to soften the bolt , the Dewalt to finish it. Test voided. Never make it as Consumer Report Tester.(Opinion; Dewalt is a bit better.I only use these tools in emergency situations)
The Bauer was well worth the $72 I paid for it to leave it in my truck. I'll use it with a Bauer drill for my camper use. Add a couple of lights, a fan or two, and the radio, I'll be quite happy with this 20 volt platform.
Oh I agree, I don’t think you can wrong with any of the Bauer except for maybe the 20v grinder.
Hey man. Just did a video on the new radio. Check it out!
Excellent comparisons! Thank you for the informative video.
Seems like a fair comparison to me - the Bauer wasn't moving the tractor bolt, but it was faster at 100 ft lbs (I'm typically only going to need 75 ft lbs or less). However, I will say that I'm not using a battery operated impact to move anything that is at 300 ft.lbs. I have a 2 ft breaker bar for that - and a BIG corded 120v impact if I really can't budge it. I would have liked to see you use the air impact for the last test.
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450 ft-lbs of 'bolt breakaway' torque (or nut-bursting torque) is nothing more than a marketing term.
If you check Earthquake XT 20V 3/8 impact wrench, you will see 'bolt breakaway torque' is 370 ft-lbs while max torque (which is also referred as fastening torque) is 160 ft-lbs.
Also, Bauer corded impact wrench claims to have 1050 ft-lbs of bolt breakaway torque, while max is 300. They are all specified in Harbor Freight page.
So, a lot of people mistakenly compare one tool's 'bolt breakaway torque' with other tool's 'max torque'. That's just not the right comparison, but nowadays, companies are trying to fool people by only specifying bolt breakaway torque, as that makes the tool look more powerful.
DCF889 said to have 400 ft-lbs of 'max' torque, so its breakaway torque will be like 500 to 600, if Dewalt decides to put it that way. (As Milwaukee claims their mid-torque impact wrench has 400 max and 600 breakaway torque).
It technically is a real number, just a bit of BS as to how they come up with that number.
Your story reminds me of the time I went to remove a tire after a shop put it on, and broke a breaker bar trying to remove the lugs.
Yep that don’t need to be that tight!
Only 2 stripped lug nuts i've ever had an issue with and ones that were ridiculously over tightened were from shops. After the second stripped lug nut and spending an hour trying to remove it, i swore i'd never let a shop put the wheels on my cars ever again. No problem since!
sounds like the CanTire here,breaker bar with a 5 foot 1"gas pipe lifted the truck off the stand but cracked them loose
Same here, broke one of my best breaker bars trying then had to take it back and have the garage untorque them. Them main problem here being if I had that out on the road I would have been screwed, plus I was leery after that of all lugs being stretched and ready to pop
the battery for the DeWalt he used for the last part of the video cost more than the Bauer Impact driver
Was supposed to switch the Dewalt 60v battery to 20volt battery, did that happen or did I miss something? I,m going to have to watch this whole thing again.😕
Ive got the bauer 450 but i think its more 350 but i paid 100$ for mine on sale at hf . Im not even going to complain 😂 . Works fine for qhat i use it for.
Bought the Bauer 20V and it works great for me around the house.
This guy used the Baver.to lose the tractor bolt . I m wonder why he didn't use the dewalt on a different bolt 🤔
Love thepolitical jab! Bravo!
I tell any shop that works on my truck that if anybody uses an impact to torque the wheels, they will be buying me new lug nuts and studs.
As long as you have the proper torque stick on the impact it's just fine
@@nathanirvin5099 Yes, but this and most shops around my area doesnt, unfortunately.
Yea I've only really seen them at strictly tire shops around my area
It always seems like they think they need to tighten the piss out of lug nuts if you take them in.
@@radozeman lol actually its until the impact stops moving
The dewalt removed the bolt ( after ) the bauer had already released some of the tension. Didn't see the dewalt remove one of the secure bolts ( completely from the large wheel, from start to finish.
Yeah this guy lied to us, he said he was going to use the dewalt on a fresh bolt and he went ahead again with the bauer first lol.
lb-ft pound-feet is torque. ft-lb is energy.
I have a Milwaukee Fuel 1/2" 18 volt impact. It has been great so far.
Those Milwaukee’s are really nice, especially the newer ones!
Though, I only occasionally use harbor freight tools when I know I’m not going to use it everyday, though I like them as they keep the competitions pricing in check. If HF cuts it close for a 500$ discount like compared to some snap on items, it may just be worth it. The name brands could price their items higher if harbor freight wasn’t here to keep em low. Quit the HF hate. If they weren’t here, dewalt drills will be 500$ as well as brands like Milwaukee as everybody needs drills. We must thank harbor freight for that.
True, well said. Also he didn't mention the price. The Bauer is wayyyyyyyyyyyyy better value. It could do 90% of what the Dewalt could do, for 10% the price. I paid $56 for my Bauer 1/2" impact wrench. Talk about a good deal. The Bauer does more for your hard earned coinage. I don't think it's a fair comparison. He should have compared is against a smaller DeWalt. One that's in the Bauer's class. Not a honkin' 60v battery for pity's sakes.
@@mosesm.3431 the bauer did the exact same job and the only reason he switched the dewalt to the 9ah battery from the 3 ah is because it failed the test just the same as the bauer when on a level playing field. the 60v doesnt make a difference at all because the drill can only accept 20v no matter what. what made the difference is 9ah vs 3 ah which allows for 3 times the current draw which equals more torque.
the cheat is to buy battery adapters to run dewalt batteries on the bauers, they respond well to the more powerful dewalt battery packs
That's a good point almost any power tool, with adapters you can buy another brand and use the batteries you already have!
Did you win that t-shirt at a carnival?
Nope, on Amazon.
I don’t know how long and how many times I had to skip 10 seconds to actually get to the meat of the video
Nicely done brother...👍
When the Bauer 1/2" 20volt impact driver could not break loose the large tire from the huge farm tractor I see that the 60v DeWalt battery mysteriously re appeared. 😠
So why did u cheat with the bigger battery on a DeWalt for the second bolt on the big tractor wheel?
There is NO 60v battery for use in a 20v Dewalt gun! He is wrong on that!!
This battery will work with a 20 volt tool or the new line of 60 volt tools. BUT in a 20 volt tool it only runs at 20 volts with 6.0 amp hours of run time. In a 60 volt tool it runs at the necessary 60 volts BUT with only a 2 amp hour run time. This battery is designed to run ALL your tools instead of having many different batteries for many tools.
The 6a battery will have a higher output amperage thus giving it more guts and the dude knows it even saying it gives it more power. This vid seems very bias
The earthquake air impact is a beast
Those 60V De Walt batteries are flex volt. That means they have more poles on the batteries and for 60V applications, they are 60V, for 20V they are 20. If it was a full 60 V, you'd destroy the impact. The reason you have more power with the 60V could be it's a new battery. If you used a new 20V battery, it would work equally well to the 60.
Exactly, most people don't seem to realize that!
Just one question, were both the Bauer and DeWalt batteries at the peak charge prior to attempting to remove the bolts on the tractor? Just curious.
Bauer is was, DeWalt probably wasn’t fully charged, but still had 3 bars.
This guy doesn't know what he's talking about first he says he used a 300 foot pounds to tighten the tractor nut and then later on he admitted he doesn't weigh 300 pounds or his best method is basically scratching off the top of his head to find an answer secondly when he use the Bauer impact to get off and lug nut on the tractor after that he use the Dewalt impact on the shave Nook or guess what Cub hours already worked off some of the torque and made it easier for the DeWalt to come after it and get it off. Thirdly I would even mess with the 20 volt battery and if you're serious about getting off that tractor tell you you should have the big dog impact that's over a thousand pounds in Reverse torque
So you do know torque work right? Apparently not, because 200 lbs on a 18” bar would be 300 ft lbs!
Thank you. Wont waste my x with the bauer
I'm reasonably sure the Bauer needs a 4.0 amp battery to access its full strength/torque.
Really doesn’t make that much difference, mostly just run time.
@@radozeman It makes a BIG Difference after 3 or 4 lug nuts...
It does make a difference.
The true test of Empire impact is the RPMs and the Anvil hammers inside
HELLO!!! You said you can argue that the Bauer did a lot of the work, and you would be RIGHT. BUT!! did the SAME exact ERROR on the second bolt!!! The Bauer hit it for the longest time, and THEN you used the DEwalt. What you need to do is on a fresh bolt, use the DEWalt. Even then, it is not a quantitative test, but you get an idea.
Well you cheated since the first bolt with the dewalt using the big battery with the big tractor tire
How so?
@@radozeman you did not use the dewalt with the smaller battery to see if it would take it off. You used the bigger battery and never tried the smaller one.
Yup. Guy's an idiot.
@@princeboateng694 thats where youre wrong he did try the 3ah on that bolt with the dewalt but it failed just the same as the bauer did with a 3ah pack...
The Bauer seemed to shake a lot more when used on the tractor tyre, I think the adaptor seemed to really affect it’s performance. I think it would perform a lot better with a larger battery.
Bigger battery would little to no difference, and yes the adapter undoubtedly takes away some of the torque but it was used on both impacts.
@@radozeman Strange because you would have more current and in turn a higher output of power, hence why most manufacturers such as Makita and Milwaukee state you should use 5ah battery minimum for their impact wrenches, for optimum performance. Still a great purchase for the price. I recently picked up some heavy duty Impact sockets which have actually help my impact take off larger nuts and bolts due to the extra mass. I prefer the chromoly sockets.
@@MrZimmaframe You are correct, it does make a difference. Why did he step up the battery on the Dewalt for the test and not for the Bauer. Very biased test!
You should get the earthquake XT it has 1200 pounds of torque. I have one and it's awesome
Only thing I don't like about that is it is another battery type.
Yes, I would like to see such a review done on that Earthquake XT. Will it do 1200 ft/lbs? Seeing is believing.
@@radozeman But if it can actually do 1200 ft/lbs, regardless of its proprietary battery type, it has earned its special place as shop champion. Especially when the next step up is a cutting torch - the regional executioner.
How would one even measure that kind of torque though? I don’t even have anything to reliably do 300. Which is as high as most torque wrench’s go.
@@radozeman You do have a valid point for which I have no answer as I've never needed to measure torque. Is there an apparatus that is readily available to do this function testing? I can't answer that, and a quick search of Google didn't yield anything of value with which to answer.
hey i just bought the bauer 450 impact. it took out my ls engine harmonic balancer bolt out that was in over 200 ft lb of torque just fine no problem at all.
Well it should! Supposed to be 450 ft lbs!
Those tractor bolts could use some grease; they looked mighty dry.
If you put a 60v battery on the Bauer would it take the big lugs off? Seems like you said you had a 1.5 MAh and a 3.0 MAh battery on the Bauer. But this video answered my question can the Bauer take off standard civilian car wheel lugs. I'm guessing if you got a bigger battery for the Bauer it could even be stronger
The 60v is only 20v the impact! Bigger batteries are like larger gas tanks on a vehicle, they don't give more power, just last longer, though using too small of a battery can be hard on the battery.
This gun is for quick things when time isn't a issue. U dont wanna tighten and bust 100 bolts in a shift with battery gun. Maybe if u have 15 minute to do something and dont wanna roller out the hose and roll it back after done
Partially true yes, if you are going to be doing that many bolts you are better of getting a good battery operated tool.
Goodness gracious, Bauer is NOT designed for heavy equipment! This vid served no justice. It was a total waste of air time..
thanks
You do realize that black rubber ring on your air line is supposed to be located further back to stop the hose from being pulled in too far into a hose real.
Not necessarily, not to mention that is where it comes installed.
@@radozeman A new pair of boots don't come with the laces tires either. Doesn't mean it's supposed to stay that way. It's a stop if you don't have a real it's not needed. If your real is located in your celling it keeps the line from being pulled out of reach.
A torque stick can be used to limit the maximum torque when tightening lug nuts with an impact wrench.
It only works good with pneumatic tools. electric impacts have too many bpm. Torque sticks need a heavy slow hit.Maybe the Dewalt one in the video works but maybe.
Why you start with the bauer and finish it off with the dewalt on both bolts?
You were supposed to use the D Walt first on the big tire but you started out once again with the Bauer
That bigger battery for the Delwalt does makes a difference.
How so?
21 minutes for a freakin impact test........
Wait till those brushes wear out as well on the bauer
The brushes are fairly easy to replace, if this is something you've done before. Hell, it's easy for a first timer.
The bauer seems to be about the same size as my dewalt xr midtorque, and that dewalt looks as big as my xr high torque.
For $100 that bauer is good enough to keep at home for car maintenance.
Exactly prefect for home use
Michael Guevara
That old Dewalt, is bigger than the xr high torque. And it’s weaker than your mid torque.
So this thing has the same torque as my truck?!?!?!?! Come on man!!
Gotta remember that's not full rotating!
Very good starter impact. Can't complain on the price
I’d agree!
The only problem I find with HF battery tools is when the battery’s go bad you can’t buy new ones because they don’t carry that brand anymore I have a HB impact wrench and can’t buy batteries
That is true!
Having several bauer tools around and well liked but the compact 1/2 inch impact sucks. The 3/8 inch is fantastic though. Always using the 3 or 5 amh batteries
That deep impact socket looked like a wobble socket, especially when fitted on the bauer most of the energy was being eaten up by the socket!
No, just a regular socket, and while this may be true, it was the same one used on the DeWalt
That 1/2 to 3/4 inch adapter is a torque killer big time! Not good for running a test. Dewalt is probably still the best bang for the buck if you need more bang. I like air the best if it is available.
'Tyres' are the big doughnut shaped rubber bits on the smaller round metal bits called 'wheels' - you were taking off the 'wheels' not the 'tyres'. Tip: if you're ever on the roadside and you can't loosen a wheel nut - try putting the jack under the tyre wrench and raising the jack.
That and the bauer is a brushed tool while the dewalt I believe it's brushless which is more efficient and effective.
I don’t think the DeWalt is brushless, fairly certain it is brushed as well.
Cant help but think this really wasn't done fairly. What is the price difference?
This guy is a dewalt lover
for the price of the bauer it makes the job, at least for a DIYer it a great tool with a good price. And at least on the test that I think that are where most people would use it makes what its intended to.
My thoughts exactly!
Why would you try the Bauer first on BOTH bolts? That's ignorant. It did the work on BOTH bolts now.
It's not an even comparison against the Dewalt because it's built to last for years while the HF is built to last the length of the warranty. 90 days.
It would be short sighted not to make it a primary focus point that a tool that costs 1/3 to 1/2 as much but has less than 1/4th the lifespan isn't necessarily a good value.
But if it’s a tool you don’t use all the time why do you need it to last longer?
Is using a torque wrench recommended for tightening lug nuts after using a impact driver? (I just got the Bauer for changing out old off brand lug nuts).
Going from a 1.5 Ah to a 3.0 Ah battery is not what gives you more torque. They are both 20 volts, which is what gives the motor it’s torque. I believe the 1.5 Ah battery was low on charge. The Ah rating is all about run time. NOT torque.
Exactly! But most people don’t seem to understand that!
@@radozeman True
Wish I would have watched this before buying the Bauer, that thing couldn’t even remove my truck lug nuts after I torqued them down to 135ft pounds
Really? That seems a little odd, I was able to to remove the front tractor lug nuts, which are around 200.
Use a shallow socket when possible. Less loss of torque
As a automotive tech i used to use Snap ON ...Now all i use when it comes to portable tools is Milwaukee .5yr warranty on tool and 3 year on battery .And bad ass nut busting torque ..you get what you pay for . Now for the average guy at home doing light work ,,Bauer tools are just fine ..NO knocking here..
That's always the point I try to make as well, perfectly fine for the home diyer. Or if you already have tool brand you should stick with that as the batteries are usually the most expensive part of any tool now.
Milwaukee had made leaps and bounds ahead of "all" the names. As of this time in history like now, they are the best you can get by far.
If you do not have an accurate means of testing torque then what is the point ?
Bouer just as good as a dewalt i think bouer is really better u cant bet tbem for the price and the quallaty
Price maybe, quality I might question.