Thumbs up for exploring 13-inch props. I am also testing out 13-inch cinelift props from my previous 19-inch helicopter blades. My single rotor is only 250 grams, but all trend curves indicate that 13-inch props have highest endurance and optimal for motor weight for 250 gram single-rotor drones.
I fly FPV drones for fun. Thank you for talking about the reasons your drone is better than others on the market. I loved hearing your story. Keep up your great work, and continue using science and research to better your products. I am certain it will pay off!
And this is one of the things that need to be used in the SAR enviorment, carry defibrilators and other med supply that can be deployed before medics and during water rescues where floating devices can be deployed.
Looks a lot like the drones I built a year ago for Nascar. Nice to see more people actually engineering structure into frames instead of just drawing shapes and playing Tetris with the components like most of this industry. Well done.
@@EllisvanJason It's not available to the public unfortunately, but the core structure of the design is a similar concept and it works extremely well. Been running it for a year now and it's been solid AF. I guarantee there will be a lot more split-arm designs in the future as more people catch on and actually start engineering legit, strong, and lightweight airframes instead of just making components work together. It's clear you guys put a fair amount of thought into yours which is refreshing to see in an other-wise stale market.
Okay so I see you have used Chris Rosser's truss design style to base your design. Sure intelligent hot swap batteries and a metallic camera mount are good design choices for professional customers. But frames that have been tried and tested are already out there which support a red komodo. It will be a lot more convincing once someone compares your product with those.
Did not copy chris at all. Why should we 😅 I believe our design is more advanced and has much more than just a truss. Truss is a basic structure. If you think chris invented it, you are wrong 🤓 vertical arms is not something new, and so truss. Also our truss is different and soon will be more complex so we move fast and we dont beed to copy others 😎💪 well then bu the other frame if you want to get 4-5 min flight time and lots of sag 😂👌 just flew 9 min with a 90-100km/h so in my opinion this changes so much 🚀
@@EllisvanJason impressive. Well yeah I know Chris didn't invent trusses. I didn't say you copied per se learning from his findings is nothing wrong. Did you mean to say your setup has no sag ? How is that being avoided. Are you getting some special battery chemistry or is your setup low current draw.
Once you enter the prof space, you can buy that without any problem 😊✌️ its your daily working tool. I always so far invested a lot of money back into gear. Lets gooo🤩
@@EllisvanJason yeah man hopefully one day will be able to get one of these beasts! Currently investing all my money back into quads but only got a 5, 7.5 and 2.5 inch right now with hero 11’s. Would definitely love to invest into a professional camera and cinelifter like this in the future! Keep up the amazing work man! 🙌❤️
@@decfpv thats awesome dude! All you need to start and grow. At the end of the day you as pilot and your cinematic eye is what pushes you and not just the gear, you can create amazing pictures with a simple camera ✌️🚀 best of luck
We seriously need better battery tech yesterday. That's the only thing holding back a lot of technologies being developed so far. But then again, i think it's the military that will have access to those a few years before consumers can obtain them.
Absolutely beautiful! One question. At about 1:42 in the video you show the battery tray being mounted to the bottom, but I noticed a decent amount of wobbly from that even when it was clamped down (as they plugged it in). Wouldn't that be really bad?
After you plugged it in you close the clamp and its going to be rock solid. This is a piece by freefly and used on all sets for movies and other payloads, so its very solid even it seems so. I was also skeptical :)
Very cool designs! Have you considered procuring some of the newer higher energy density battery chemistries (Such as NMC811) to improve your flight endurance?
These 2 look so nice! That’s sick mounting the gimbal. How does the camera operator operate the camera at such distances? & I take it that the camera operator and drone operator must talk to each other in flight to correlate ideas. I’ve got the Bob57 coming soon! Maybe I’ll one day have a need for one of these 2 machines.
The capability of your drone is amazing. Congrats. What about a video collaboration where you are going to catch us in-flight for an Air2Air shooting in our single engine Aircraft? Everything above 500ft. above ground and speeds between 72 - 130kts would work for us. We are based in Switzerland. Would love to hear from you guys.
Very interested in obtaining this Startruss Drone , but my only question is if with a cine camera it lasts 9-10 min , how long will last with a standard gopro 12 ?
just throwing out an idea to look into helicopters that follow wrc cars (world rally championship & inside the helicopter are a pilot & a camera operator controlling the gimbal mounted camera).. similar speeds(+200kmph), similar stage times (battery lifetime).. many drivers though, so you'd need many drones ready to go and multiple fpv pilots.. mountains, valleys, dense forests, night time environments, rain, storm, are an issue though, but maybe you can figure something out
Think of the time of a typical shot…. seconds. Ten minutes is a lifetime! It is not best to wait in the air where one can’t swap batteries or SD cards while the rest of the crew resets a shot. In tightly timed sequences, the pre positioning of assets (camera rigs of all types) is critical.
One more question/comment and I might have no idea what I am talking about, but I noticed you are using the Lumenier 4 in 1 ESC instead of separate APD ESCs. Most other cinelifters that I have researched seem to be running the APD ESCs. Is this set up better, the same, or worse?
Apd was almsot the only one. Now new players enter the market. Bl heli32 based esc are so easy to setup and well integrated in betaflight. Also flew the lumenier for couples of weeks and no issue 😎✌️works perfectly on startruss 🚀
its to save on money, installing separate escs would make it easier to fix any problems that may arise from a hard days use, but 4 in 1 escs are cheaper than individual escs
As a person trying to invent myself after this crazy pandemic.. I've been in the searrch for a drone outside of the usual DJi stuff! But those drones are amazing, i can only imagine what they would cost when available? Well done, great story and awesome drones!!
I love everything but the fact it’s a bnf and your using lumineer 100amp esc instead of apds which are the standard for such large motors with heavy payloads like that I’m not trying to have an electrical spike and my 11,000 dollars fall to the ground in a ball of smoke other than that good design but Chris rossers drone that I can build with components I like and trust is much more suitable you make a frame I can just buy this will be the better option till then ✌🏼
Well we stress tested the lumenier and even helped them to find there production issue 😂 apds use their own software which you hopefull know is not so easy with betaflight. Lumenier has blheli32 which works great with betaflight. Fuether the drone builsing time is faster and easier and you dont need to configure each eac and lose hours. We used queenbee and startruss for couple of weeks and put them under big stress tests, so far all gucci 🤓🙏 sometime you have to expand the pie and look for other options. Not alwas what others are doing is the best. We try to be innovative and look for the best solutions. Last but not least apds are out of stock so we don‘t like waiting for ever 🤩💪🤓
@@EllisvanJason I will agree apd needs to either step it up or open source their software cause yeah they suck with software and compatibility in general
0:00 You have a red foam on your Goggles 2. Can you link to that? I've been pretty unhappy with the fit (nose mostly) of the original foam and the replacements I've found to date. I haven't seen that particular one yet. Can you provide any details or is just a different color of the OEM thing? And...Sorry to drag this a totally mundane direction. Amazing stuff.
I also like Karearea drone frames because they also use vertical trusses for arms as you do. But they make drones of entirely different class, they are much smaller with much less payload than yours. Keep up the great work!
Maybe at later stage. As we use specific components we know they work and tuned it very well we want to enaure the best flight performance. Often time when you sell frames people then still ask questions as they use different components and struggle with the tune. I just want people to have the best experience 🥳
Well 4 min if you have 10kg payload. You get much more if you have a little ronin on top 😂 you bearly feel the gimbal. I was blown away by the power and possibilities this goves us
Amazing scenery and great footage! I subscribed to see more Videos made by you. Dji Mini 2 is an awesome little drone. I own one myself too and create cinematic Videos. Keep it up bro! 👌🏽 This is absolut incredible
Епт, наконец додумались не увеличить толщину лучй, а сделать обычную ферму, которая даст жёсткость по вертикальной оси, а треугольное распор двух ферм даст жёсткость пор горизонтальной оси. А то уж думал что железнодорожные мосты,никого не надоумят использовать эту конструкцию.
Yes at 10kg payload. If you fl with a small gimbal and cam, much more. This is a high end drone for high end productions and 4min for that is a really good number, I know it looks low but at 10kg on top of the drone weight, thats something
They need to sell dummie cameras with adjustable weight, so people can practice without expensive gears. A camera shape, make it hollow on the inside. and a lock at the top, open the lock and add weight plates (metal). where you use a bolt to tighten the metal plate. when added the 1-15 metal plate and reached the weight you want, add the bolt and then put the lock back on. Now you can practice with real weight of your camera, without putting your camera at risk.
Josh and I introduce you Startruss and Queenbee the new 2RAW drones. For all questions, drop a comment 👌
Flight time and payload weight for queen bee and startruss?
Payload and & Max Battery Pack Capacity
Wen will this drone be available..??
@@vineethraj3033 now
@@bobbystech you can load up to 10kg
dang well done guys 🙌🏻
Thanks so much Matti! Let us know if you ever want to test one 😉🚀
Thumbs up for exploring 13-inch props. I am also testing out 13-inch cinelift props from my previous 19-inch helicopter blades. My single rotor is only 250 grams, but all trend curves indicate that 13-inch props have highest endurance and optimal for motor weight for 250 gram single-rotor drones.
without a doubt one of the most amazing and beautiful drones I've ever seen!
😱
I fly FPV drones for fun. Thank you for talking about the reasons your drone is better than others on the market. I loved hearing your story. Keep up your great work, and continue using science and research to better your products. I am certain it will pay off!
So nice of you 🚀💪🙌
And this is one of the things that need to be used in the SAR enviorment, carry defibrilators and other med supply that can be deployed before medics and during water rescues where floating devices can be deployed.
Lets gooo
@@EllisvanJason I'll DM on mail
Looks a lot like the drones I built a year ago for Nascar. Nice to see more people actually engineering structure into frames instead of just drawing shapes and playing Tetris with the components like most of this industry. Well done.
Ah really? Where can I find your drone? 😇
@@EllisvanJason It's not available to the public unfortunately, but the core structure of the design is a similar concept and it works extremely well. Been running it for a year now and it's been solid AF. I guarantee there will be a lot more split-arm designs in the future as more people catch on and actually start engineering legit, strong, and lightweight airframes instead of just making components work together. It's clear you guys put a fair amount of thought into yours which is refreshing to see in an other-wise stale market.
Okay so I see you have used Chris Rosser's truss design style to base your design. Sure intelligent hot swap batteries and a metallic camera mount are good design choices for professional customers. But frames that have been tried and tested are already out there which support a red komodo. It will be a lot more convincing once someone compares your product with those.
Did not copy chris at all. Why should we 😅 I believe our design is more advanced and has much more than just a truss. Truss is a basic structure. If you think chris invented it, you are wrong 🤓 vertical arms is not something new, and so truss. Also our truss is different and soon will be more complex so we move fast and we dont beed to copy others 😎💪 well then bu the other frame if you want to get 4-5 min flight time and lots of sag 😂👌 just flew 9 min with a 90-100km/h so in my opinion this changes so much 🚀
@@EllisvanJason impressive. Well yeah I know Chris didn't invent trusses. I didn't say you copied per se learning from his findings is nothing wrong. Did you mean to say your setup has no sag ? How is that being avoided. Are you getting some special battery chemistry or is your setup low current draw.
@@aakashjana6225 12s reduces current draw and only 4 motors... much less stress per cell
also music so cool, like in Deus ex Machina game🤩🤩🤩
Thank you
This is epic!! Well done guys 👏
Thanks so much brother 😊🚀
Bold statement. Can't wait to see more testing, footage, trials and bloopers.
Thanks mate 💪🚀
Wish I could afford a quad like this it looks awesome 👏🔥
Once you enter the prof space, you can buy that without any problem 😊✌️ its your daily working tool. I always so far invested a lot of money back into gear. Lets gooo🤩
@@EllisvanJason yeah man hopefully one day will be able to get one of these beasts!
Currently investing all my money back into quads but only got a 5, 7.5 and 2.5 inch right now with hero 11’s. Would definitely love to invest into a professional camera and cinelifter like this in the future!
Keep up the amazing work man! 🙌❤️
@@decfpv thats awesome dude! All you need to start and grow. At the end of the day you as pilot and your cinematic eye is what pushes you and not just the gear, you can create amazing pictures with a simple camera ✌️🚀 best of luck
@@EllisvanJason thanks man really appreciate the advice! ❤️
Game changing drones! I have a feeling they’ll be used on movie sets around the world 🎥
Thanks bro! Well I hope they give it a try and feel the difference 🤓🙌
We seriously need better battery tech yesterday. That's the only thing holding back a lot of technologies being developed so far.
But then again, i think it's the military that will have access to those a few years before consumers can obtain them.
I agree. I can’t wait for the day laser powered drones etc. become available to the general public. Unlimited flight times hopefully coming soon🤞🤞
I think batteries are quite maxed out. Maybe it more the motors getting more efficient 😂 we went 12s for better performance 🚀🤓
Thumbnail says "217,000mph".
Hilarious stuff.
Really? 👀
WOOOOOHOOO THATS MIND BLOWING
Woah! Awesome! Stellar! Super speed! Bravo! 😎 Bravo indeed!
🙏
These are seriously impressive🎥
Thanks so much!
that thing is terrifying
Wow both of them look absolutely incredible 👍
Thanks mate 🙌😇
Unreal quality of video, like an fpv
Wow those look awesome. Keep
Pushing the technology limits. rad sharing primo work guys.
Absolutely beautiful! One question. At about 1:42 in the video you show the battery tray being mounted to the bottom, but I noticed a decent amount of wobbly from that even when it was clamped down (as they plugged it in). Wouldn't that be really bad?
After you plugged it in you close the clamp and its going to be rock solid. This is a piece by freefly and used on all sets for movies and other payloads, so its very solid even it seems so. I was also skeptical :)
@@EllisvanJason Ahh okay! Thanks for the response!
IN awe
Cara que sensação que é voar esse tipo de drone deve ser maravilhoso
que maquina em!
I can't wait to buy this😍😍🔥
💪🙏🚀
Awesome. Look forward to trying them out especially the ease of swapping payloads from top to bottom
Yes so quick! If you have 4 batta this makes it efficient
beautiful!
these look soooo good
Amazing Video, well done!
This is awesome!
Thanks mate ✌️
Have you had a 4k live stream with this drone? If so what you used to send the signal down to a ground station?
Very impressive!
Wow
Thanks 😇🙏
just wow
Awesome !! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Thanks so much 😊😇
looks amazing!!
Very cool designs! Have you considered procuring some of the newer higher energy density battery chemistries (Such as NMC811) to improve your flight endurance?
I love the intro Audio ... have a big setup ..subs and monitors and its FUN haha
Haha 😂
Amazing!
I love it ✨✨✨
AWESOME
Sounds and looks Amazing our company will be looking into your products for future upgrades ✌🏼
💪 sound good. Just ping us snd we are happy to supprt
Gosh I wish I worked professionally.....it'd give me an excuse to build one of these beauties 😍
Haha its waiting for you 😊✌️
i work professionally .... still broke :\
I'm seriously interested in these drone! Would love to discuss with you guys in more details
Wow! nice drone!
thanks so much dude
Awesome Aircraft!!
Cheers mate
Make it aerodynamic, then pub a cube on top of it 😅
Exactly! But air moves different around the cube depending on angle and just because the cube is not effective, the drone doesnt need to be as well 😂🙏
These 2 look so nice!
That’s sick mounting the gimbal. How does the camera operator operate the camera at such distances? & I take it that the camera operator and drone operator must talk to each other in flight to correlate ideas.
I’ve got the Bob57 coming soon! Maybe I’ll one day have a need for one of these 2 machines.
Awesome
The capability of your drone is amazing. Congrats. What about a video collaboration where you are going to catch us in-flight for an Air2Air shooting in our single engine Aircraft? Everything above 500ft. above ground and speeds between 72 - 130kts would work for us. We are based in Switzerland. Would love to hear from you guys.
i think US DoD want 10000 of this drone
Is it Queen or Qeen? It's Qeen in the video at the end
Thats a typo 😂✌️
This looks epic 🔥
Very interested in obtaining this Startruss Drone , but my only question is if with a cine camera it lasts 9-10 min , how long will last with a standard gopro 12 ?
Love the designs you guys are putting out!
Thx mate 🙏
Wer hat's erfunden? Die Schweizer. Wer genau? Ric... 2Raw... looks like a fine machine you made there.
Vielen dank 😂💪
just throwing out an idea to look into helicopters that follow wrc cars (world rally championship & inside the helicopter are a pilot & a camera operator controlling the gimbal mounted camera).. similar speeds(+200kmph), similar stage times (battery lifetime).. many drivers though, so you'd need many drones ready to go and multiple fpv pilots.. mountains, valleys, dense forests, night time environments, rain, storm, are an issue though, but maybe you can figure something out
Thanks for sharing your thoughts 💪
Make em open source
Not everything need to be open source! You can buy it and clone it tho if you want 🙏😎
I'd buy one. What flight controller (hardware and software, both) do each of these use? That footage looks great!
Not familiar with cinema drones. Is it normal that they have flight times of less than 10 min? Queen bee has only 4 min according to the website.
10 min is crazy long for a cinema camera lifter. So far they flew half as much usually.
Think of the time of a typical shot…. seconds. Ten minutes is a lifetime! It is not best to wait in the air where one can’t swap batteries or SD cards while the rest of the crew resets a shot. In tightly timed sequences, the pre positioning of assets (camera rigs of all types) is critical.
Love what you’re doing. Well done 👍
Still waiting for you 😂✌️🚀
Man these look badass 🔥 would love to take one of these for a spin!
MASHAALLAH khub valo technology video review.....!
AWESOME!!! I want one!!!! Looking forward to this being available soon...
Cheers mate! They are available 🚀 on the website you have all infos
Awesome! Logs look fantastic! 👍
Hello, great, could you give us the link to the antennas of your Googles 2? Do they improve the video signal?, thank you!!! 👍
One more question/comment and I might have no idea what I am talking about, but I noticed you are using the Lumenier 4 in 1 ESC instead of separate APD ESCs. Most other cinelifters that I have researched seem to be running the APD ESCs. Is this set up better, the same, or worse?
Apd was almsot the only one. Now new players enter the market. Bl heli32 based esc are so easy to setup and well integrated in betaflight. Also flew the lumenier for couples of weeks and no issue 😎✌️works perfectly on startruss 🚀
its to save on money, installing separate escs would make it easier to fix any problems that may arise from a hard days use, but 4 in 1 escs are cheaper than individual escs
Now that's a clean looking cinelifter series.
Game changing, Well done guys!!
Thanks mate. Especially sturtruss is such an upgrade. Happy to chat you through at some point 🤩🚀
Very very impressed and innovative 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 congrats for such an amazing work
Thanks a ton 😊🙏
Excellent battery swap design… Nice lookin’ quads too! Impressive indeed!
Thanks a lot Jeff 🙏
Will it be full manual mode only or some functions automatic or half automatic?
Manual fpv drone 👌😊
As a person trying to invent myself after this crazy pandemic.. I've been in the searrch for a drone outside of the usual DJi stuff! But those drones are amazing, i can only imagine what they would cost when available? Well done, great story and awesome drones!!
I love everything but the fact it’s a bnf and your using lumineer 100amp esc instead of apds which are the standard for such large motors with heavy payloads like that I’m not trying to have an electrical spike and my 11,000 dollars fall to the ground in a ball of smoke other than that good design but Chris rossers drone that I can build with components I like and trust is much more suitable you make a frame I can just buy this will be the better option till then ✌🏼
Well we stress tested the lumenier and even helped them to find there production issue 😂 apds use their own software which you hopefull know is not so easy with betaflight. Lumenier has blheli32 which works great with betaflight. Fuether the drone builsing time is faster and easier and you dont need to configure each eac and lose hours. We used queenbee and startruss for couple of weeks and put them under big stress tests, so far all gucci 🤓🙏 sometime you have to expand the pie and look for other options. Not alwas what others are doing is the best. We try to be innovative and look for the best solutions. Last but not least apds are out of stock so we don‘t like waiting for ever 🤩💪🤓
@@EllisvanJason I will agree apd needs to either step it up or open source their software cause yeah they suck with software and compatibility in general
@@EllisvanJason okay other thing will it ever be a stand-alone frame option that I can build up ?
@@terpsquirter7107 yes very soon we release
@@joshuahenriques3224 wonderful will be on the lookout for it 💪🏻🤙🏼
Siiiiiick dude 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Aww, missing you mate already! Cannot wait for your success in Dubai! A great human left CH :)
Flight times are extremally low.
No 😂 much more than we had. 9 minutes with a cinema camera is long. 4 min with 10kg is a lot. If you fly with rohnin rs3 and cam its much longer 🚀
sick
for real
Thanks guys 🙏🚀
Absolutely mind blowing brother 🥵 Ich kann da zwar nicht viel mitreden, aber sieht auf jeden fall nach Qualität und sehr sexy aus 👌🏽
🙏 danke bruder! Hoffe bei dir alles klar
Great work with the drone, this vid audio mix isn't good though, background too loud
This is amazing!! Interested in buying both!
Thanks brotha! On the website you find all details, let us know if you have more
0:00 You have a red foam on your Goggles 2. Can you link to that? I've been pretty unhappy with the fit (nose mostly) of the original foam and the replacements I've found to date. I haven't seen that particular one yet. Can you provide any details or is just a different color of the OEM thing? And...Sorry to drag this a totally mundane direction. Amazing stuff.
This is Josh’s creation 😂
@@EllisvanJason So he just built up a custom face foam? I'm clearly not crafty enough. Thanks.
I will buy one. Sick drone Ellis!!!, 💪💪
Text us via website so we can best assist you 👌🤓
What FPV receiver antennas are you using, brand and dbi?
O3 and crossfire 🙌
Frames are looking great! From the Queen bee's parts list, it says 1x Battery Tray with Toad in the hole female
What is "Toad in the hole female" ?
Toad in the hole is a quick release system developed by FreeFly Systems, 10 years ago...
Its the mounting system between the red part and battery
I also like Karearea drone frames because they also use vertical trusses for arms as you do.
But they make drones of entirely different class, they are much smaller with much less payload than yours.
Keep up the great work!
Thanks mate, appreciated
Would you guys sell just the frames at any point?
Maybe at later stage. As we use specific components we know they work and tuned it very well we want to enaure the best flight performance. Often time when you sell frames people then still ask questions as they use different components and struggle with the tune. I just want people to have the best experience 🥳
How thick are the motor plates?
On website you find the link to the motors and there you have all sizes 🤓💪
13,000 Australian dollars and 4 minute flight times... Does it come with batteries? :-)
Well 4 min if you have 10kg payload. You get much more if you have a little ronin on top 😂 you bearly feel the gimbal. I was blown away by the power and possibilities this goves us
Amazing scenery and great footage! I subscribed to see more Videos made by you. Dji Mini 2 is an awesome little drone. I own one myself too and create cinematic Videos. Keep it up bro! 👌🏽
This is absolut incredible
Thanks so much for the kind words 🙏🚀
Епт, наконец додумались не увеличить толщину лучй, а сделать обычную ферму, которая даст жёсткость по вертикальной оси, а треугольное распор двух ферм даст жёсткость пор горизонтальной оси. А то уж думал что железнодорожные мосты,никого не надоумят использовать эту конструкцию.
These for sale somewhere?
On website in bio 💪
These drones look great but QueenBee has a flight time of 4 min and a pricetag of 7,000 GBP. No thanks!!!
Yes at 10kg payload. If you fl with a small gimbal and cam, much more. This is a high end drone for high end productions and 4min for that is a really good number, I know it looks low but at 10kg on top of the drone weight, thats something
Can’t wait to rip em’ 🔥🔥🔥
They need to sell dummie cameras with adjustable weight, so people can practice without expensive gears.
A camera shape, make it hollow on the inside. and a lock at the top, open the lock and add weight plates (metal). where you use a bolt to tighten the metal plate. when added the 1-15 metal plate and reached the weight you want, add the bolt and then put the lock back on.
Now you can practice with real weight of your camera, without putting your camera at risk.
What's the drivetrain?
I never heard that for drones but for others like cars haha. Can you be more specific?
@@EllisvanJason the esc, motor kv . What drives the unit
I already know what I'll use. Just curious what you guys use
cc25b
Lumenier ELITE PRO 12s 4in1 esc-s?
Yes and we fixed it for them 😂 haha
@@EllisvanJason Lol :D
when you stop using velcro strap I will watch your video again.
Feel free to add whatever you want 😎💪