F*ck that noise! As a card carrying member of 🇬🇧. I speak my native language more eloquently than the majority of my compatriots (though I write terribly) & I can confirm that the upper crust posh accent you hear on American TV is b*llsh*t. Even when I turn up the “proper accent” as I call it (and I have done so when travelling abroad for various reasons 😉) I would never sound like that. The accent you hear on these programs started dying in the 1950’s and completely snuffed it by 1990’s
@@The_Viscount Not really, posh because they'll be a high ranking civil servant within the Foreign and Commonwealth Office (and posh rich educated white men would have risen to the top fairly quickly back then), but very unlikely to be a noble these days.
One of my favorite episodes Us and Russia: We started an intergalactic war with hostile alien species and didn't bother to inform you, ...oh and some of your oldest myths and legends that essentially are the backbone of your cultural identity and beliefs. That may have been some of the previously mentioned hostile aliens or if not them, one of several opposing groups who for various reasons are themselves either allied against us or have chosen to let us die if we're ever overrun Other world Govt: Anything else you want to mention? US: We've been to numerous alternative realities and we're pretty much having this conversation because in most of those the lack of transparency lead to a totalitarian regime headed by one of our enemies but occasionally by us and that's assuming that they didn't destroy their worlds completely.
Honestly it would be pretty funny to see the Chinese react to the fact that Yu the Great is... 1. Real 2. An Alien. 3. Alive but with snake alzheimers.
I like how Davis seamlessly goes from "so uhh there's this ring device we found in egypt that can open wormholes to other planets..." immediately to "SO SG-1 WAS BEAMED ON AN ASGARD VESSEL, BELISKNER CLASS, AND FOUGHT THE REPLICATORS"
Ronny Cox had a fantastic career playing unlikable characters. Stargate SG-1 and Robocop were some of my favorites. He also had a great performance in Deliverance. Honestly a great character actor.
@@Experiment632 It could have been a fun episode or two later on to have reveal that one of these ambassadors was simply playing ignorant an that they knew of the entire program existence and pretty much everything that has happened over the last 8 years.
A nation calls you up and says "we have a big secret that we have decided to share with you.". That nation convinces you that it is SO important that you need to fly out immediately for the meeting. That nation takes you to a super secure bunker for the meeting. That nation lays out details about a top secret project in that meeting. Your first reaction is that they are wasting time with a big prank. Is that more reasonable than what was stated?
The Stargate existing has significant religious implications. To those who believe in the Abrahamic religions and the idea of divine creation, to suddenly find out that there were aliens and advanced tech and all that pretty much destroys that belief. A moment of disbelief is 100% believable, even if all the signs should be screaming at them that this was real. It's not like they're telling them they've got a secret missile, they're breaking their fundamental beliefs about the origins of humanity, AND telling them Earth has been in contact with aliens, in one fell swoop.
I actually do think it's a slight plot oversight that the UK did not know about it through back channels to the US, as that is the nature of the 'special relationship'. It would make sense if the UK ambassador knew about it, didn't seem surprised by disclosure, feigned being surprised, got called out on it, and basically just said 'we knew but stayed out of it' or 'we knew and have helped process some data from it'. (having said that though, the SGC is so big by this time that it is mathematically unrealistic for it to still be a complete secret so fudging who knows what isn't really a huge deal ontop of it remaining a secret)
Y'know, I never understood that whole thing in 1945. I get the whole "random processes" to establish a wormhole, but you would think that before they actually dialled out, the scientists would at least have the foresight to write down exactly which symbols they were going to try... And if they did, why couldn't they make the same connection again? It's not like the Stargate moved out of range or anything after Ernest went through it, so why didn't they try dialling the same planet again?
They still had no clue how the thing actually worked, the y had no idea the symbols on the gate were constellations and were used as navigational points in space. Remember, they activated the gate BEFORE the space race, so the idea of navigation in space was an unknown concept to them, but by the time Daniel came onto the team, it was old hat. Taking all that into account, it’s fair to assume, that they did try redialling, but if they didn’t know which symbols had caused the gate to activate in the first place, the chances of them randomly coming across them again, were astronomically small.
@@commandercritic9036 It's not a case of knowing that they're constellations. While that's a good explanation of WHERE they're going when it comes to the stargate travel, it's completely moot. Have you ever played the game "Mastermind"? It's where you're given a bunch of items that come in 4-6 colours, and you have to choose 4 of them to try and guess the correct code. This code can be anything at all, as long as it consists of UP TO 4 different coloured items (though the code can be as simple as the same colour for all 4 items). After each attempt, you're told how many items of your choice are the correct colour, and if any are in the correct position (though not told which is which. For example, if a code is R-Y-G-B, and you put R-R-B-Y, you'd be told that 3 colours are correct, but only 1 is in the right position.) The idea is to extrapolate which spots and colours are correct for your next attempt, and to guess the code in as few tries as possible. My point is... It doesn't matter that the symbols are constellations. They could be colours, or letters, or numbers, or atomic structures for all it matters. Guessing the code at random ONLY makes sense if you write down what order you're going to push the buttons in. If you don't, you end up repeating yourself, which on a wrong attempt is just a waste of time. Therefore, if they were writing down the codes before dialling them, they would just have to re-dial the same code, and they'd get the same result, whether they understand WHY that result happens or not. Yes, they didn't know about Stellar Drift, which was the reason why most of the gate addresses were no longer working (until Carter updated the dialling program to adjust for that). The only other plausible reason why it wouldn't connect is if the gate was buried. just after Ernest went through. This would account for the sudden shut-off of the gate (since it's only seen to be open a short time in the footage, but that could have had a time-skip in it to account for Ernest suiting up once the gate was activated). Ernest COULD have unburied it afterwards, but with no knowledge of what the symbols mean, he couldn't get back (I forget if there was a DHD, or if it was gone by the time Ernest got there)
@@ReddwarfIV There was, but Ernest wouldn't have understood how to use it, let alone the combination to dial Earth (even if he realised they were constellation coordinates, they didn't understand the idea of the "Home" symbol... which could also have been any of the 37 symbols on the DHD)
@@BYERE Heh, the home symbol is funny to me. It makes sense for manual dialling, but you'd think a DHD's big red button would automatically give the home symbol when pressed since it would only change if the gate it connected to was swapped. And if it can't be swapped then there's no need at all.
I like how the first experiment mentioned is covered up, as Davis skips mentioning they sent someone through, and that the stargate COULD have been redialed if they wanted to (as they did a few years before to rescue the guy who they now knew must have been stranded). Of course the original cover up for all that was to say they didn't open the stargate at all. So not sure why Davis even mentioned it. Small oversight from the writers I guess, or an intentional lore reference for us.
Well considering the first time they tried, thry had no clue what they had or what it did, its not unreasonable why they didnt retry back then. As why it was mention it was to be as transparent as possible. This is a massive secret and revieling the stargate to the other nation and want them to trust you enough to keep sole possession, then transparent is key. Sure he didnt go into full details as trying to look good as possible but am sure most of the mission files would be made available, with a few exception. And maybe a few more files that look like zebras
Why would they stand? He's a State Senator, of which there are 99 others who hold similar office, in the grand scheme of things, he's essentially 'middle managment'. The only reason he's there is because he was on the committee that over saw the Stargate programs budget. Standing for someone entering the room is normally reserved for Heads of State and Ambassadors, of which Kinsey is neither.
Surely it would have just been easier to bring them to the SGC, dial the gate to prove it's real & works. THEN tell them all about the missions, crashing spaceships and multiple gates.
In reality Kinsey would have never been told about the stargate program .. It would just be another black op program that would had a need to know classification if not higher .. A very compartmentalized program .. With no civilian oversight ..
True But whats also true is that some politicians have a lot more connections and political leverage than most others would in there position and therefore get answer they usaully wouldnt get. Especially a program as big and as expensive as the stargate program which was only growing in size. Also take into account that despite keeping it a sercet for so long it being revealed to the public was always a massive concern and therefore always on the table. So having as much political support as possible is a good idea, it just unfortunately backfired in the case of Kinsey.
@xadam2dudex Am not disagreeing something like that can't happen as it can and does, but.. That stargate isn't like a normal black ops program. It literally effects the whole planets safety, its a massive project that only growing in size and probably has a yearly cost of upwards of 50 billion (in the 90s and early 2000s) which 50bil in 2000 is now more than 87bil and if you look at the programs expansion its probably more like 500bil or more (not including spaceships). I point this out because the larger a black op is the nore political support you need. Also, take into account that the Pesident was directly informed and apart of some of the decisions that happened in the stargate. So he would always be looking at the political of it all and the decision to involve Kinsey to avoid political backlash. Suggesting Kinsey had a lot of power, probably more than he really should have.
Not by the time they were building 302s and 303s, running what must be multiple off world mining sites. Technological development sites, Most black programs are fairly small dime, so are easily buried. By this stage they would have easily be spending 10s of billions on the program every year, you aren't going to be able to get that written off as a black program.
In the year 2024, Great Britain can't even field His Majesty's fancy aircraft carrier for lack of troops and ammo. I dunno that we would give them as high billing as we did at this time.
Fans rag about clipshows... but maybe I wasn't the only one that didn't have Showtime back when Showtime had SG-1... ...so I was seeing the first 5 seasons as seasons 7-8 were "first-airing" on Sci-Fi channel.
story line is incorrect, the first gate was discovered in egypt which the americans had, the russians found the second one in the pacific and then the americans found a third in antartica, where jack and cartyer were stuck until rescued.
Well, yes. They had heavy influence from the Air Force as a reference. In exchange, they had real generals and equipment show up at various points in the show's history.
I wish one of them said, so our intelligence was correct, we thought it was just a crazy cover story for something else you were doing under here! Anyway did, before Hammond cut them off.
@@ReddwarfIV Does it look like a problem for a US Senator? Viewing externally, the GOP especially are winning the race to the bottom, they rarely ever suffer consequences regardless of how much they screw over their constituency.
@@biocapsule7311 That's your view. From what I've seen, senators of both parties love pork projects. Government funded jobs programs. The money going to the SGC could be going to such a program in Kinsey's state instead.
Man the older I get the more I side with the senator. Accountability is important. Where funds are going and if we are making enemies etc. An alien program needs to be 100% considered left right and center. I get the need for action, but watching every episode they did a lot of shooting from hip not based in protocols to protect earth and our operations. We got into way too many wars/conflicts etc. during Stargate program.
Except the senator in question is about as currupt as they come. He loses much of his point with all the shenanigans him and his various co conspirators pull throughout the series. Honestly it was always nice when they actually portrayed someone from outside of the main teams as competent and helpful. Like Woolsy. He definitely wanted more oversight and such. But he also wanted it done correctly. His rise to becoming one of the more important characters in the franchise felt quite earned in my opinion.
@ سيا دة المقدم المختار نور نجم سهيل ثورة علم المفوض المندوب السامي العام لمكافحة ءالاءرهاب لمنع الحرب ليعم الاءمن والاءمان والسلام الدولي النور عام لمنظمة ءامن الاءمم المتحدة للسلام الموسيقا رمز المحبة والاءمن ولم الشمل والحماية النور والسلام الدولي عام حبيبتي خطيبتي مسا النور
Kinsey's got a point -- in the last six years, the SGC ought to have developed a smoother initial briefing. For new personnel, if nothing else.
Kinsley is a dick, but he has a point
Broken clock is right twice a day, but that doesn't mean you have to like it.
To be fair, they really don't get a lot of practice.
Maybe this is why they got Daniel to record the introductory video seen later in the franchise. Although I think that ended up being longer.
They were diplomats, I'm sure one of them was pretending they didn't believe the story so Hammond and co would keep revealing details.
As a Brit, the line "How many of these bloody things are there?" still cracks me up to this day.
Pip pip?
@@Ragitsu Cheerio ol chap!
F*ck that noise! As a card carrying member of 🇬🇧. I speak my native language more eloquently than the majority of my compatriots (though I write terribly) & I can confirm that the upper crust posh accent you hear on American TV is b*llsh*t. Even when I turn up the “proper accent” as I call it (and I have done so when travelling abroad for various reasons 😉) I would never sound like that. The accent you hear on these programs started dying in the 1950’s and completely snuffed it by 1990’s
@@averyvaliant I mean, wouldn't the Ambassador be some posh English nobleman with an uncle named Bob?
@@The_Viscount Not really, posh because they'll be a high ranking civil servant within the Foreign and Commonwealth Office (and posh rich educated white men would have risen to the top fairly quickly back then), but very unlikely to be a noble these days.
One of my favorite episodes
Us and Russia: We started an intergalactic war with hostile alien species and didn't bother to inform you, ...oh and some of your oldest myths and legends that essentially are the backbone of your cultural identity and beliefs. That may have been some of the previously mentioned hostile aliens or if not them, one of several opposing groups who for various reasons are themselves either allied against us or have chosen to let us die if we're ever overrun
Other world Govt: Anything else you want to mention?
US: We've been to numerous alternative realities and we're pretty much having this conversation because in most of those the lack of transparency lead to a totalitarian regime headed by one of our enemies but occasionally by us and that's assuming that they didn't destroy their worlds completely.
Everyone
*surprised Pikachu face*
Honestly it would be pretty funny to see the Chinese react to the fact that Yu the Great is...
1. Real
2. An Alien.
3. Alive but with snake alzheimers.
I like how Davis seamlessly goes from "so uhh there's this ring device we found in egypt that can open wormholes to other planets..." immediately to "SO SG-1 WAS BEAMED ON AN ASGARD VESSEL, BELISKNER CLASS, AND FOUGHT THE REPLICATORS"
This is by far my favorite 'Recap' episode. Because it blends flashbacks into an actual in universe narrative that you would expect to happen.
Thank you Ronny Cox, for your portrayal of Kinsey.
Ronny Cox had a fantastic career playing unlikable characters. Stargate SG-1 and Robocop were some of my favorites. He also had a great performance in Deliverance. Honestly a great character actor.
@@Angel9932 And he got to die with some abnormally long forearms.
@@Angel9932He could sabotage SG-1 and come back in time for corn flakes
1:12 I love how the French ambassador looks over at the British. He probably wanted to say something about France being America's oldest ally
Whenever Major Davis shows up, you know there's going to be some real shit going down with the SGC
There's a reason he's known as Major Disaster Davies amongst the fans.
@@benjackson8731 HAHA i totally forgot about his nick
There's a reason he's one of my favorite occasional characters.
“When this man, Dr. Daniel Jackson joined the program, then proceeded to die like 20 times.”
Judging from his expression, the British representative probably knew of Daniel's reputation before he joined the program.
@@Experiment632 It could have been a fun episode or two later on to have reveal that one of these ambassadors was simply playing ignorant an that they knew of the entire program existence and pretty much everything that has happened over the last 8 years.
A nation calls you up and says "we have a big secret that we have decided to share with you.".
That nation convinces you that it is SO important that you need to fly out immediately for the meeting.
That nation takes you to a super secure bunker for the meeting.
That nation lays out details about a top secret project in that meeting.
Your first reaction is that they are wasting time with a big prank.
Is that more reasonable than what was stated?
It kinda hit the "too stupid to make it up" point when MAJ Davis mentioned that one more meteor was in fact an "alien" ship.
yes
The Stargate existing has significant religious implications. To those who believe in the Abrahamic religions and the idea of divine creation, to suddenly find out that there were aliens and advanced tech and all that pretty much destroys that belief. A moment of disbelief is 100% believable, even if all the signs should be screaming at them that this was real. It's not like they're telling them they've got a secret missile, they're breaking their fundamental beliefs about the origins of humanity, AND telling them Earth has been in contact with aliens, in one fell swoop.
Lets include that their "biggest rival nation" is supporting the truth of their story too.
"...our planet is in imminent danger" which is also a daily routine for SG 1 XD
Major Davis deserved a promotion through the upper ranks
He mentions in a later episode - or one of the movies - that he's turned down more than one promotion to stay close to the Stargate program.
just goes to show, an episode that is essentially a glorified clip show can still be thoroughly entertaining with decent writers.
Probably a good primer for those who didn't initially see the Showtime seasons.
It’s one of my favourite episodes, mainly down to the Don Davis performance
one of the only clipshows i'll ever rewatch
Ronny Cox is a master at playing a hatable villain
I had to kill Bob Morton because he made a mistake. Now it's time to erase that mistake.
The "Actually, there were three" line erased any doubt in the Brit's mind this was real.
This is like me explaining this series to my mom
I only just noticed they gave the British Ambassador a cup of tea😂🔥
Here's to hoping it was an excellent brew.
@@Ragitsu It was a American that made it, so I doubt it.
Man, British dig at lost Russian submarine(s) was slick burn...
I wonder, when the US government evwntually went public. Would the Egyptian government demand the return of its stolen gate?
Good point.
Interesting question there.
4:31 "observe as I transform into Young Tim Curry"
Uncanny.
Devilish.
I actually do think it's a slight plot oversight that the UK did not know about it through back channels to the US, as that is the nature of the 'special relationship'. It would make sense if the UK ambassador knew about it, didn't seem surprised by disclosure, feigned being surprised, got called out on it, and basically just said 'we knew but stayed out of it' or 'we knew and have helped process some data from it'.
(having said that though, the SGC is so big by this time that it is mathematically unrealistic for it to still be a complete secret so fudging who knows what isn't really a huge deal ontop of it remaining a secret)
You'd be surprised how often the US has backstabbed its "closest ally".
Well well well, as a scify fan I must ask, what Time Machine did Jules Piere mao find to get to this meeting😂😂😂😂😂
That table looks familiar, but I don't want to spoil it for anyone else. Sure the shows aren't new, but someone could be new to them
Oh, I know what you are talking about...
Thanks for pointing that one out. After all these years, i did not realise about it
I don't get it. Which show do you refer to?
@@dimitartachkov1267 Stargate Atlantis
@@dimitartachkov1267 That table will appear in Stargate Atlantis in the atlantis conference room
Bloodline of Jules-Pierre Mao?
Peoples republic of Protogen?
I never knew that this meeting took place on Atlantis.
;)
#Table
He brought his table to Atlantis
Oh!
Y'know, I never understood that whole thing in 1945. I get the whole "random processes" to establish a wormhole, but you would think that before they actually dialled out, the scientists would at least have the foresight to write down exactly which symbols they were going to try... And if they did, why couldn't they make the same connection again? It's not like the Stargate moved out of range or anything after Ernest went through it, so why didn't they try dialling the same planet again?
They still had no clue how the thing actually worked, the y had no idea the symbols on the gate were constellations and were used as navigational points in space. Remember, they activated the gate BEFORE the space race, so the idea of navigation in space was an unknown concept to them, but by the time Daniel came onto the team, it was old hat. Taking all that into account, it’s fair to assume, that they did try redialling, but if they didn’t know which symbols had caused the gate to activate in the first place, the chances of them randomly coming across them again, were astronomically small.
@@commandercritic9036 It's not a case of knowing that they're constellations. While that's a good explanation of WHERE they're going when it comes to the stargate travel, it's completely moot.
Have you ever played the game "Mastermind"? It's where you're given a bunch of items that come in 4-6 colours, and you have to choose 4 of them to try and guess the correct code. This code can be anything at all, as long as it consists of UP TO 4 different coloured items (though the code can be as simple as the same colour for all 4 items).
After each attempt, you're told how many items of your choice are the correct colour, and if any are in the correct position (though not told which is which. For example, if a code is R-Y-G-B, and you put R-R-B-Y, you'd be told that 3 colours are correct, but only 1 is in the right position.)
The idea is to extrapolate which spots and colours are correct for your next attempt, and to guess the code in as few tries as possible.
My point is... It doesn't matter that the symbols are constellations. They could be colours, or letters, or numbers, or atomic structures for all it matters.
Guessing the code at random ONLY makes sense if you write down what order you're going to push the buttons in. If you don't, you end up repeating yourself, which on a wrong attempt is just a waste of time.
Therefore, if they were writing down the codes before dialling them, they would just have to re-dial the same code, and they'd get the same result, whether they understand WHY that result happens or not.
Yes, they didn't know about Stellar Drift, which was the reason why most of the gate addresses were no longer working (until Carter updated the dialling program to adjust for that).
The only other plausible reason why it wouldn't connect is if the gate was buried. just after Ernest went through. This would account for the sudden shut-off of the gate (since it's only seen to be open a short time in the footage, but that could have had a time-skip in it to account for Ernest suiting up once the gate was activated). Ernest COULD have unburied it afterwards, but with no knowledge of what the symbols mean, he couldn't get back (I forget if there was a DHD, or if it was gone by the time Ernest got there)
IIRC there was a DHD, but it fell off a cliff when part of the structure collapsed.
@@ReddwarfIV There was, but Ernest wouldn't have understood how to use it, let alone the combination to dial Earth (even if he realised they were constellation coordinates, they didn't understand the idea of the "Home" symbol... which could also have been any of the 37 symbols on the DHD)
@@BYERE Heh, the home symbol is funny to me. It makes sense for manual dialling, but you'd think a DHD's big red button would automatically give the home symbol when pressed since it would only change if the gate it connected to was swapped. And if it can't be swapped then there's no need at all.
I miss clips shows.
I like how the first experiment mentioned is covered up, as Davis skips mentioning they sent someone through, and that the stargate COULD have been redialed if they wanted to (as they did a few years before to rescue the guy who they now knew must have been stranded). Of course the original cover up for all that was to say they didn't open the stargate at all. So not sure why Davis even mentioned it. Small oversight from the writers I guess, or an intentional lore reference for us.
Well considering the first time they tried, thry had no clue what they had or what it did, its not unreasonable why they didnt retry back then.
As why it was mention it was to be as transparent as possible. This is a massive secret and revieling the stargate to the other nation and want them to trust you enough to keep sole possession, then transparent is key.
Sure he didnt go into full details as trying to look good as possible but am sure most of the mission files would be made available, with a few exception. And maybe a few more files that look like zebras
3:35 notice how no person stands out of respect or dis to kinsey
Why would they stand? He's a State Senator, of which there are 99 others who hold similar office, in the grand scheme of things, he's essentially 'middle managment'. The only reason he's there is because he was on the committee that over saw the Stargate programs budget.
Standing for someone entering the room is normally reserved for Heads of State and Ambassadors, of which Kinsey is neither.
Surely it would have just been easier to bring them to the SGC, dial the gate to prove it's real & works. THEN tell them all about the missions, crashing spaceships and multiple gates.
This, friends, is how you do a recap episode.
It's such an important episode it shows up in another clip show episode lol.
@@thewewguy8t88Clipception.
I think the British ambassador is the most relatable foreigner in the room, to be honest.
cant help but think about the recent ufo news when i watch this
In reality Kinsey would have never been told about the stargate program .. It would just be another black op program that would had a need to know classification if not higher .. A very compartmentalized program .. With no civilian oversight ..
I don't know about that. There's a chance that they'd be read in, and then promptly read out of it.
True
But whats also true is that some politicians have a lot more connections and political leverage than most others would in there position and therefore get answer they usaully wouldnt get.
Especially a program as big and as expensive as the stargate program which was only growing in size.
Also take into account that despite keeping it a sercet for so long it being revealed to the public was always a massive concern and therefore always on the table.
So having as much political support as possible is a good idea, it just unfortunately backfired in the case of Kinsey.
@@shadowphoenix1696 you can be the president and still be locked out of these black ops
@xadam2dudex
Am not disagreeing something like that can't happen as it can and does, but..
That stargate isn't like a normal black ops program.
It literally effects the whole planets safety, its a massive project that only growing in size and probably has a yearly cost of upwards of 50 billion (in the 90s and early 2000s) which 50bil in 2000 is now more than 87bil and if you look at the programs expansion its probably more like 500bil or more (not including spaceships).
I point this out because the larger a black op is the nore political support you need.
Also, take into account that the Pesident was directly informed and apart of some of the decisions that happened in the stargate.
So he would always be looking at the political of it all and the decision to involve Kinsey to avoid political backlash.
Suggesting Kinsey had a lot of power, probably more than he really should have.
Not by the time they were building 302s and 303s, running what must be multiple off world mining sites. Technological development sites,
Most black programs are fairly small dime, so are easily buried. By this stage they would have easily be spending 10s of billions on the program every year, you aren't going to be able to get that written off as a black program.
I did not think of the idea back when i first saw the episode., but now i do wonder what a knock off Chinese gate would look like.
This would be a great April Fool's joke.
I am here after the UAP hearing 😂
In the year 2024, Great Britain can't even field His Majesty's fancy aircraft carrier for lack of troops and ammo. I dunno that we would give them as high billing as we did at this time.
It's 2024 and this is basically exactly what's probably been going on.
Aliens?
Teal'c isn't the only one counting
Fans rag about clipshows... but maybe I wasn't the only one that didn't have Showtime back when Showtime had SG-1...
...so I was seeing the first 5 seasons as seasons 7-8 were "first-airing" on Sci-Fi channel.
Is that a Peacekeeper emblem on the back table??
story line is incorrect, the first gate was discovered in egypt which the americans had, the russians found the second one in the pacific and then the americans found a third in antartica, where jack and cartyer were stuck until rescued.
The "second" gate is also the first gate...
Can you put yourself in their shoes of hearing such news?
Just shows you how American centric this show is.
Well, yes. They had heavy influence from the Air Force as a reference. In exchange, they had real generals and equipment show up at various points in the show's history.
Wow, an american funded and produced show for an American audience is American centric, that's weird.
@@mabbook There is no reason it _must_ be United States-centric.
@@Ragitsu except for all the reasons he stated :p
@@Ragitsu
Stargate being US-centric is no stranger than Godzilla Minus One being set in Japan.
They ar seating one tabel Atlantis
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I wish one of them said, so our intelligence was correct, we thought it was just a crazy cover story for something else you were doing under here! Anyway did, before Hammond cut them off.
Oh gosh... he must be british he said bloody. What what.
How did they find all of these foreign guys in Vancouver?
Huh?
@@Ragitsu This was recorded one town over from Vancouver. No idea what the mystery is about foreign guys.
You hire for the accent.
Why would Kinsey worry about money? Sure the US government just prints more, any time it needs it
Because it isn't going to his constituency
@@ReddwarfIV His constituency? Wouldn't it be him or his donors?
@@biocapsule7311 Means nothing if you can't get re-elected.
@@ReddwarfIV Does it look like a problem for a US Senator? Viewing externally, the GOP especially are winning the race to the bottom, they rarely ever suffer consequences regardless of how much they screw over their constituency.
@@biocapsule7311 That's your view. From what I've seen, senators of both parties love pork projects. Government funded jobs programs. The money going to the SGC could be going to such a program in Kinsey's state instead.
Man the older I get the more I side with the senator. Accountability is important. Where funds are going and if we are making enemies etc. An alien program needs to be 100% considered left right and center. I get the need for action, but watching every episode they did a lot of shooting from hip not based in protocols to protect earth and our operations. We got into way too many wars/conflicts etc. during Stargate program.
A high degree of United States (action) television is centered around bucking authority and/or being a maverick.
Except the senator in question is about as currupt as they come. He loses much of his point with all the shenanigans him and his various co conspirators pull throughout the series.
Honestly it was always nice when they actually portrayed someone from outside of the main teams as competent and helpful. Like Woolsy. He definitely wanted more oversight and such. But he also wanted it done correctly. His rise to becoming one of the more important characters in the franchise felt quite earned in my opinion.
I have to say, that instead of doing cheap clip show, episode of such magnitude was ... most underwhelming of the series.
It helps the budget, you know?
I've hated this guy ever since Robocop!
7 symbols = Stargate... 8 symbols = Spacegate ( galaxy).... 9 symbols = Dimensiongate.. 10 symbols = ?????gate
Why does the french guy more british than the rest of them all combined? 😀
Aburd.
You can tell how dated this is, if this was now, the Chinese government wouldnt be portray as revealing things to its people
Why?
wie leise soll das Video sein ... JA
Always annoyed me that India wasn't at the Table
Too busy building rockets.
Not a security council member.
Like 69
Aww I missed it.
Who doesn't?
@ سيا دة المقدم المختار نور نجم سهيل ثورة علم المفوض المندوب السامي العام لمكافحة ءالاءرهاب لمنع الحرب ليعم الاءمن والاءمان والسلام الدولي النور عام لمنظمة ءامن الاءمم المتحدة للسلام الموسيقا رمز المحبة والاءمن ولم الشمل والحماية النور والسلام الدولي عام حبيبتي خطيبتي مسا النور
Clip shows are so cringe, I don't even watch them.
They are far from my favorite.