Maybe a little, but it was mainly overtaking through corners putting me off line. You know, the thing all Trackday organisers specifically warn against, well lesson learned, now I know why.
THE most dangerous corner on any track - the one right after you have passed someone. That was tough. Hope you're alright and the car lives to track again.
I gotta say that I love that a majority of the comments here a constructive and uplifting rather than mean spirited. To be hustling and 86 that quick then I think you’ve definitely got a good amount of talent. I hope the repairs aren’t too bad and you can get back out there soon!
Aii unfortunate waving accident. It didn't look too hard so hopefully you have been able to fix it. Lessons I take from this is to to not wave and stay focused. I think it caused you to miss your line and be suprised by the wobble causing lift off. I think if you had responded sooner to the lift off it wouldn't have happened, either. The wobble seemed to be controllable if caught sooner. But I think the slower than usual response time is caused by you being slightly distracted due to the waving. I hope you keep driving as the video before the crash was very nice to watch. Please share more footage :)
Was only expecting 1 word to be said in this video. Was not disappointed 😂 Side note: people go on about how Gran Turismo has unrealistic sounds but the tyre squeels are spot on based on this 😂
Easily done. My thoughts are the overtake distracted so you went in deeper and faster into the braking zone than you would otherwise, you then naturally tried to counter this with a more aggressive turn in that the rear axel couldn't match so the car was already rotating, coupled with the realisation you were going too fast there is a natural lift and weight transfer forward that helped the rear axle on its journey. What experience brings is knowing you've already getting all the grip the car will give, and the best route when you've already overcooked the entry is to run wide on the exit.
@@alexandrehaussmann7251 Trail braking a bit too hard I think as he was trying to scrub the speed off, the rear end is coming around before he hits the apex, which indicates to me he was still braking.
@@andrewwade5733 no way I gotta disagree. Listen to the audio, he's on the gas when he hits the curb, he deff came in too hot and was sliding by the time he hit the curb, which is exactly why the curb threw the car off balance and into the wall. If he turned in a bit later and didn't nail the curb I think he could have saved it especially because the slide would be scrubbing speed.
Ahhh bro sorry to see that! That was still some great driving and from the video didn't look TOO bad. Hopefully you'll get it taken care of and get back out on the track. I look forward to more vids of tracks in England.
@@xtrjackson624 As long reinforced bumper are untouched. Airbag sensors and radiator are still good. There's foam stuff called 'absorb' to stop from hitting reinforced bumper. He might want replace foam stuff because foam absorb give you chance from minor accidents like this video.
that's what i was thinking everyone is like unlucky can happen to anyone. he heard the tires going and didn't steer into it at all. anyone can push a car to the limit but like in this case alot less can correct it when it gets a bit out of shape.
My dad did the same thing, waved to thank another driver letting him past and then losing traction at the end of a corner. Thankfully tho he managed to save it, but waving is definetly something you should only do when you have a safe opportunity to.
Even the greatest and most natural talent racer crash once or twice in his career..nothing to be ashamed of..its not how hard you can hit, its how hard you can get hit and get back up.
I wave and give thumbs up when racing and traffic is being kind but I NEVER take my eyes off the road. The other driver will see the signal/thanks but I don't need to see the driver when giving it. Glad the damage was light anyway! I have a Brands Hatch GP guide on my channel if it's any use but it looked good from the short clip dude 👍🏼
Not related to the video itself, but wondering is the car stock road going or is there modifications to it? Tyre's / suspension / brakes? Had a look at your other videos but was only in car footage.
Tyres were AD08RS, now on Pilot Sport 4 for winter. BBK on the front to be able to do longer stints, oil cooler for the same reason. Suspension is still stock, it comes very well setup as is.
Yea, never really appreciated just how much altitude change the back section of the circuit had until I drove round. Sims do a pretty good job of it, but dont give the compression or butterflies to your stomach.
Unless you reacted before that started, I doubt anyone could save that. Glad the damage is minimal. Remember to take hands off the wheel before impact - broken wrists are a 3 month repair :)
Before would have meant more braking, which is exactly what I needed. Could have turned into it more before the rise, but would have ended up in the kitty litter outside at the best, rollover at the worst. Hands off the wheel, yea, still to learn that, but I was still trying to minimise forward speed into the armco.
@@alexbrewer3675 Literally no point in taking off the hands if you dont have hydraulic or no power steering. The wheel doesnt get wipped around in any modern car with electric power steering.
I used to wave all the time in my fender car, but decided two things. A: The other driver can't really see it much and B: Things like this are wayyyyy more likely to happen. I still catch myself doing it in my Formula car on track days with fender cars, but that is mostly for another form of communication. It's hard to see people way down on the ground while in a fender car; so arm movements make me bigger. Essentially you were thrown off of your timing by the car just being there and your hand was off the wheel at a critical time for your rhythm.
Unfortunate, but not the end of the car which is a great outcome. What tyres did you have on the rear? Looks like a consistent loss of traction right to the end
Road cars on track are difficult, I’ve only driven on track twice, and without any aero it’s just scary you don’t know how much speed you can take. I’ve had a passenger lap in a Super Trofeo and that thing just glued to the damn track 😅
That's a tricky corner as is when pushing. Even without the "circumstances". Car gets loose over that rise and when it grips up you can get some serious over rotation because there's yaw during the elevation change. Rough. Thank god everyone is OK.
pushed the brakes, transferred the weight to the front, jerked the steering wheel and hit the kerb in a tremendous harmonic effort to accelerate his rear end infront of his front end. Fuck sums it up. good share thanks.
I think the recovery was on point when you steered all the way back to the right after the counter steer, which reduced your impact into the barrier, this requires a lot of talent btw.
Took you so much time to acknowledge you were in trouble. Just by the roll the videos had you could see. Lesson learned the hard way but at least you tried and you are racing ! 😋
I went to a track day at snetterton, I waited till I was at the back so I effectively had the place to myself. Attempting to not brake on some corners must have lost it about 10 times!! Great fun❤️😂got a bollocking!!
Depends, I’d say he was dive bombing into the corners too hard your not supposed to ride that shoulder that hard, because like what happened in this video as your turning try not to accelerate because you’ll end up oversteering while turning into the corner.
Running out of talent is when you do a mistake like that by yourself. Nothing harder than having to pass someone into such a tricky complex as that corner at brands. Hopefully just a cashed bumper cover
can hear tyres losing control at the initial turn in before the curb, I wonder if he could just stay on gas (slightly less though) to keep the weight in the back and just go through the corner
It can happen to anyone. Even the best screw up. And a track is the right place to screw up, isn't it? By the way, what rubber do you have on it? I doubt those are the factory eco tires?
Rather do it on track than on the road thats for sure, although driving at those speeds and at the limit of grip on the road is a fools game. Had AD08RS on them at the time, now running Pilot Sport 4 for the winter.
I saw the car just nibble the grass but then seemed OK and I was like nah he's reeled it back in... that escalated quickly! Glad it wasn't too much of a shunt, at least you're and hoping the damage was superficial at worst!
Pretty sure this was caused by having the aircon set at 16.5 instead of 17! Thankfully it was a glancing blow and not a horrific smash like you see at Brands occasionally - what goes through your mind first, your health or the repair bill?
@@RelentlessEmerald oh no problem, it was just a suggestion in case you were commited to content, otherwise this type of raw racing content is fun to see so upload it just for fun when you do it
I think Brands is probably one of the tracks I would never do a track day at. That track demands that you confidently throw your car into every corner with little to no runoff on the sides. Fun as hell in the sim, but damn risky irl
Check out Cadwell, thats even better for it! But they are both fantastic tracks, if you like trackdays I'd recommend them as circuits, they're just so much fun.
It looks like you did everything right at the right moment with the steering wheel trying to straighten that tire squeeking wheelbarrow into a straight line but it just refused.
Was straightening the wheel out right before impact a conscious decision on your part? I'm guessing it reduces the chances of damage to the front wheels and suspension. Is that the case?
I was trying to minimise the impact, that was going from full left lock to full right lock. As I was traveling sideways that should have started to bring the car back away from the barrier. However theres fuck all grip on the grass.
This could have been avoided if you had counter steered a fraction earlier! you allowed the car have unrecoverable angle. Edit: I also realized that the curb initiated the slide, very unfortunate.
@@snafu7998 You saying this is a race says a lot. This is not a race, it’s at most a lapping day. Cars without a roll cage aren’t allowed to race (in Canada where I’m from, and i assume almost everywhere else)
yeah the coutersteer was way too late but applying too much would of been a snap the other way as well. mate you came out lucky that could of been a full slap against the wall.
Bmw was a distraction! you had it nailed down , just that hint wide , opens up a completely different line, into the next bend ! been there ! tough , but you are a good driver and a lot wiser , having experienced this ! been there ! keep going part of the process
Respect to you for uploading this and owning your mistake, when I watched it I wondered why you weren't counter-steering earlier as soon as I saw the yaw rate exceed that of your steering angle I know it was sliding, seemingly before you did. Is the GT86 powersteering really that non-communicative? I feel like in a non powersteered car you'd have caught that before it got out of hand.
I knew it was sliding, but coming over the rise, I didnt want to have too much countersteer in, have the car grip up, and then fire me head first into the gravel/wall. Would I do it differently now? Probably.
@@RelentlessEmerald That sort of makes sense, but it looks like it would have only needed a touch of oppo there to keep the car in a neutral slide. I'm not "criticizing" per se, was just wondering how something like this would happen, because before that point you don't at any stage look like you are driving beyond the car.
Cars also go light at Sheene Curve (I think it used to be called Dingle Dell) because the hill crests at the apex of the curve, this also doesn't help the weight balance... Nearly saved it though, tough luck, easily done..
That's a tough set of corners , the BMW saw him early and did the right thing but put him on maybe a slightly different line plus you always feel you need to go faster when someone moves out your way ...caption unfair that driver had / has a fair amout of talent. Brands GP is just awesome ... more fun on a bike but that's just my humble opinion !
When not to push too hard, it always tempting to take that part of the track deep, but it does have a bit of a kick to it, un lucky mate, hopefully not to mush damage?
That last min opposite lock to try to spin backwards to the track is actually so close to saving the car but ya about .03 seconds to late on the Counter steer😣😞
I’ve passed here in Gran Turismo lmao, usually if I have to go that wide, I’ll hit the brakes more than usual to compensate for the upcoming apex. (Also helps not to hit the grass on the left as it seems that’s what initiated the whole spin). - Not trying to be an armchair speaker lmao
My 2p is that you first went to turn in too early. Adjusted. Broke out of rhythm and then released the brakes a little too sudden followed by the steering input immediately after. This caused the unsettling of the weight to the outside tyres. Fact is you were driving well and on the limits, so a small thing can have a large consequence.
That’s a lesson for a driver to expect that to happen, anticipate it in the background and react firmer and quicker… unluckily in racing that’s how we learn, by crashing
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you got distracted by having to say thank you
Maybe a little, but it was mainly overtaking through corners putting me off line. You know, the thing all Trackday organisers specifically warn against, well lesson learned, now I know why.
Oh shit! Is the car alright?
@@lukethompson2589 yea, front bumper was all, was at Bedford yesterday in it!
@@RelentlessEmerald awesome just bolt it all back together and go again!
Imagine if the guy he said thank you to, ended up waving back when he passed him as he was crashing 😅
THE most dangerous corner on any track - the one right after you have passed someone. That was tough. Hope you're alright and the car lives to track again.
Sounds about right. Certainly the way on iRacing. Cars alive and already been on track again.
@@RelentlessEmerald P
absolutely 100% accurate truth
Confirm a GT350 spun after I gave him a point by at my last track day
@@RelentlessEmerald only one way to learn right? Glad to hear she’s back on the track man!
I gotta say that I love that a majority of the comments here a constructive and uplifting rather than mean spirited. To be hustling and 86 that quick then I think you’ve definitely got a good amount of talent. I hope the repairs aren’t too bad and you can get back out there soon!
Aii unfortunate waving accident. It didn't look too hard so hopefully you have been able to fix it. Lessons I take from this is to to not wave and stay focused. I think it caused you to miss your line and be suprised by the wobble causing lift off. I think if you had responded sooner to the lift off it wouldn't have happened, either. The wobble seemed to be controllable if caught sooner. But I think the slower than usual response time is caused by you being slightly distracted due to the waving. I hope you keep driving as the video before the crash was very nice to watch. Please share more footage :)
Was only expecting 1 word to be said in this video. Was not disappointed 😂
Side note: people go on about how Gran Turismo has unrealistic sounds but the tyre squeels are spot on based on this 😂
Exactly
Easily done. My thoughts are the overtake distracted so you went in deeper and faster into the braking zone than you would otherwise, you then naturally tried to counter this with a more aggressive turn in that the rear axel couldn't match so the car was already rotating, coupled with the realisation you were going too fast there is a natural lift and weight transfer forward that helped the rear axle on its journey. What experience brings is knowing you've already getting all the grip the car will give, and the best route when you've already overcooked the entry is to run wide on the exit.
looks more like he nailed the curb and it spat him sideways
@@alexandrehaussmann7251 Trail braking a bit too hard I think as he was trying to scrub the speed off, the rear end is coming around before he hits the apex, which indicates to me he was still braking.
Yea I noticed too he was already screwed before even getting to the curb
@@andrewwade5733 no way I gotta disagree. Listen to the audio, he's on the gas when he hits the curb, he deff came in too hot and was sliding by the time he hit the curb, which is exactly why the curb threw the car off balance and into the wall. If he turned in a bit later and didn't nail the curb I think he could have saved it especially because the slide would be scrubbing speed.
Solid pace mate. Nothing to be ashamed off, keep pushing brother 🤟🏾💪🏾
What video did you watch?
@@ndndhhhhk1362 Ah good, an expert
I did the day there in sept on the GP track, only I was on my Yamaha FZ1. What an amazing track to ride/drive on. Absolutely iconic.
This track always gets me in gran turismo, so props to you for doing it in real life, good work mate
Ahhh bro sorry to see that! That was still some great driving and from the video didn't look TOO bad. Hopefully you'll get it taken care of and get back out on the track. I look forward to more vids of tracks in England.
Shows how easy it is to get distracted. Props for posting. How bad was the damage?
New front bumper and thats all. Dead lucky could have been way worse.
I thought the same. The airbags didnt deploy... you have airbags, right?
@@jnr1989 He does not need one if he has a racing seat
@@RelentlessEmerald Everything behind the bumper untouched?
@@xtrjackson624 As long reinforced bumper are untouched. Airbag sensors and radiator are still good. There's foam stuff called 'absorb' to stop from hitting reinforced bumper.
He might want replace foam stuff because foam absorb give you chance from minor accidents like this video.
You ignored the tires and never once made steering adjustments before hand. This is what happens.
that's what i was thinking everyone is like unlucky can happen to anyone. he heard the tires going and didn't steer into it at all. anyone can push a car to the limit but like in this case alot less can correct it when it gets a bit out of shape.
Wasn’t too devastating of a crash, you’re very lucky. Best of luck on the track!
Good thing nothing major happened to you and the car. New bumper and off you go again. Love this track
just looked to me like you reacted to slow with the wheel, hopefully there wasn't much damage
hell yeah man. Gotta treat it like you're balancing on a plank with a cylinder below you. Crazy what a second or two delay will cost you
My dad did the same thing, waved to thank another driver letting him past and then losing traction at the end of a corner. Thankfully tho he managed to save it, but waving is definetly something you should only do when you have a safe opportunity to.
That corner is brutal, even more so immediately after an overtake.
You can tell the track day enthusiasts from the gamers in the comments lol. Glad it was fixable
All wondering why it didn't automatically go back on track or return to pit😂
Even the greatest and most natural talent racer crash once or twice in his career..nothing to be ashamed of..its not how hard you can hit, its how hard you can get hit and get back up.
I wave and give thumbs up when racing and traffic is being kind but I NEVER take my eyes off the road. The other driver will see the signal/thanks but I don't need to see the driver when giving it. Glad the damage was light anyway! I have a Brands Hatch GP guide on my channel if it's any use but it looked good from the short clip dude 👍🏼
Not related to the video itself, but wondering is the car stock road going or is there modifications to it? Tyre's / suspension / brakes? Had a look at your other videos but was only in car footage.
Tyres were AD08RS, now on Pilot Sport 4 for winter.
BBK on the front to be able to do longer stints, oil cooler for the same reason.
Suspension is still stock, it comes very well setup as is.
Tiny mistakes can have big consequences. Breaks my heart. Hope you get it fixed soon
Live and learn. You were going hard. Keep pushing.
Glad the car is ok... I have only raced there in a sim, but that turn is by far the toughest for me because you can not see the apex.
Yea, never really appreciated just how much altitude change the back section of the circuit had until I drove round. Sims do a pretty good job of it, but dont give the compression or butterflies to your stomach.
what car ?
@@MrLince-hr4of GT86 from the look of the interior.
Thanks for sharing.
Even Perry McCarthy said at the time that it is not wise to always wave - in this case, to say thank you.
Unless you reacted before that started, I doubt anyone could save that. Glad the damage is minimal.
Remember to take hands off the wheel before impact - broken wrists are a 3 month repair :)
@Marcus Keeler That was kinda my point. This was unsavable.
Before would have meant more braking, which is exactly what I needed.
Could have turned into it more before the rise, but would have ended up in the kitty litter outside at the best, rollover at the worst.
Hands off the wheel, yea, still to learn that, but I was still trying to minimise forward speed into the armco.
@@RelentlessEmerald The important thing is you walked away.
Broken wrists and the three months repair is what I’m living right now… take that hands off, always!
@@alexbrewer3675 Literally no point in taking off the hands if you dont have hydraulic or no power steering. The wheel doesnt get wipped around in any modern car with electric power steering.
I used to wave all the time in my fender car, but decided two things. A: The other driver can't really see it much and B: Things like this are wayyyyy more likely to happen. I still catch myself doing it in my Formula car on track days with fender cars, but that is mostly for another form of communication. It's hard to see people way down on the ground while in a fender car; so arm movements make me bigger. Essentially you were thrown off of your timing by the car just being there and your hand was off the wheel at a critical time for your rhythm.
Unfortunate, but not the end of the car which is a great outcome. What tyres did you have on the rear? Looks like a consistent loss of traction right to the end
AD08RS that had been beaten on track many times, this was their last outing and would have been even without the crash.
Good save. Just a love tap. Did the right thing and jammed the brakes on to control slide trajectory.
Thanks for sharing. I did similar many times in games.
So if you haven't slide for so long sideways, impact would've been greater?
Did you catch the grass on the near side? You seemed to give the BMW a wide berth but perhaps too wide?
Road cars on track are difficult, I’ve only driven on track twice, and without any aero it’s just scary you don’t know how much speed you can take. I’ve had a passenger lap in a Super Trofeo and that thing just glued to the damn track 😅
That's a tricky corner as is when pushing. Even without the "circumstances". Car gets loose over that rise and when it grips up you can get some serious over rotation because there's yaw during the elevation change. Rough. Thank god everyone is OK.
a song comes to mind,,,,, "keep ur eyes on the road your hands upon the wheel"
pushed the brakes, transferred the weight to the front, jerked the steering wheel and hit the kerb in a tremendous harmonic effort to accelerate his rear end infront of his front end. Fuck sums it up. good share thanks.
I think the recovery was on point when you steered all the way back to the right after the counter steer, which reduced your impact into the barrier, this requires a lot of talent btw.
Took you so much time to acknowledge you were in trouble. Just by the roll the videos had you could see. Lesson learned the hard way but at least you tried and you are racing ! 😋
I think he was just trying to keep it together, as soon as he touched the grass he knew things were likely to go south!
I went to a track day at snetterton, I waited till I was at the back so I effectively had the place to myself. Attempting to not brake on some corners must have lost it about 10 times!! Great fun❤️😂got a bollocking!!
Dont suppose it was a wet day there too, tracks a damn ice rink in the wet!
Long as you had fun chap.
A question from a novice. I think that he turn early into corners? Could it be so? Or is it just different styles of drivning?
Depends, I’d say he was dive bombing into the corners too hard your not supposed to ride that shoulder that hard, because like what happened in this video as your turning try not to accelerate because you’ll end up oversteering while turning into the corner.
Looks like left rear got on the grass? Before that, nice clean/smooth driving.
Running out of talent is when you do a mistake like that by yourself. Nothing harder than having to pass someone into such a tricky complex as that corner at brands. Hopefully just a cashed bumper cover
Man what graphics card you running bro field of view is lit ! What game is that the crash physics are impressive?
Some shitty pay to win, the good cars are impossible to afford!
Hard to save but not that hard to prevent, was it a lift-off?
Really seems like the tiniest error can end up writing off your car if you're unlucky. Christ.
Thanks for posting, lessons learned not lesson learnt 🙂
It's not running out of talent. Driver who let you go disrupt your concentration just a bit. Plus, difficult corner.
can hear tyres losing control at the initial turn in before the curb, I wonder if he could just stay on gas (slightly less though) to keep the weight in the back and just go through the corner
It can happen to anyone. Even the best screw up. And a track is the right place to screw up, isn't it?
By the way, what rubber do you have on it? I doubt those are the factory eco tires?
Rather do it on track than on the road thats for sure, although driving at those speeds and at the limit of grip on the road is a fools game.
Had AD08RS on them at the time, now running Pilot Sport 4 for the winter.
I saw the car just nibble the grass but then seemed OK and I was like nah he's reeled it back in... that escalated quickly!
Glad it wasn't too much of a shunt, at least you're and hoping the damage was superficial at worst!
All things considered, that could've looked a lot worse. It still sucks heavily, but be thankful that was all that happened.
Pretty sure this was caused by having the aircon set at 16.5 instead of 17! Thankfully it was a glancing blow and not a horrific smash like you see at Brands occasionally - what goes through your mind first, your health or the repair bill?
Keep putting on track content like this👍 and show if you make any upgrades to the car, like a vlog
I cant afford to keep crashing it ;)
And I dont have the time for the vlog etc.
Sorry
@@RelentlessEmerald oh no problem, it was just a suggestion in case you were commited to content, otherwise this type of raw racing content is fun to see so upload it just for fun when you do it
Lesson learnt...Never overtake an M3 😁
Love the title and glad you're OK and the damage is minimal.
👍
i had the same in Mind ;-)
I'd been keeping up with him the entire time, he was just starting his cooldown which is why I caught/overtook him. Had a great time up till then!
@@RelentlessEmerald Please don't get me wrong, I meant it in a very ironic way. Hope you haven't had too much damage to the vehicle.
@@911marcus Yea no worries, I got that.
Already had it back out on track, nothing catastrophic a new bumper didnt fix!
Sh*t happens sometimes. You're ok and that's the point.
I think Brands is probably one of the tracks I would never do a track day at. That track demands that you confidently throw your car into every corner with little to no runoff on the sides. Fun as hell in the sim, but damn risky irl
Check out Cadwell, thats even better for it! But they are both fantastic tracks, if you like trackdays I'd recommend them as circuits, they're just so much fun.
The way he said "F*CK" ... I felt that.
I think a lot of sim racers can relate to this, on that corner
It looks like you did everything right at the right moment with the steering wheel trying to straighten that tire squeeking wheelbarrow into a straight line but it just refused.
Satisfying 😌
Good that everything’s ok!
Was straightening the wheel out right before impact a conscious decision on your part? I'm guessing it reduces the chances of damage to the front wheels and suspension. Is that the case?
I was trying to minimise the impact, that was going from full left lock to full right lock. As I was traveling sideways that should have started to bring the car back away from the barrier. However theres fuck all grip on the grass.
Them kerbs are lethal
This could have been avoided if you had counter steered a fraction earlier! you allowed the car have unrecoverable angle.
Edit: I also realized that the curb initiated the slide, very unfortunate.
the track also drops a bit off camber and blind there which doesnt help things, (only done it on a bike not a car though)
Says the guy that hasn't ever raced in his life obviously!
@@snafu7998 You saying this is a race says a lot. This is not a race, it’s at most a lapping day. Cars without a roll cage aren’t allowed to race (in Canada where I’m from, and i assume almost everywhere else)
@@yurr5266 like I said, never raced a day in your life.
"A lapping day?" Hehehe. You mean a "track day"
yeah the coutersteer was way too late but applying too much would of been a snap the other way as well. mate you came out lucky that could of been a full slap against the wall.
What car is it?
If you’re not crashing you’re not going fast enough
Bmw was a distraction! you had it nailed down , just that hint wide , opens up a completely different line, into the next bend ! been there ! tough , but you are a good driver and a lot wiser , having experienced this ! been there ! keep going part of the process
A lot of crashes at that corner 😯
It is not lack of talent, we all know that brands hatch is such a pain
Respect to you for uploading this and owning your mistake, when I watched it I wondered why you weren't counter-steering earlier as soon as I saw the yaw rate exceed that of your steering angle I know it was sliding, seemingly before you did. Is the GT86 powersteering really that non-communicative? I feel like in a non powersteered car you'd have caught that before it got out of hand.
I knew it was sliding, but coming over the rise, I didnt want to have too much countersteer in, have the car grip up, and then fire me head first into the gravel/wall. Would I do it differently now? Probably.
@@RelentlessEmerald That sort of makes sense, but it looks like it would have only needed a touch of oppo there to keep the car in a neutral slide.
I'm not "criticizing" per se, was just wondering how something like this would happen, because before that point you don't at any stage look like you are driving beyond the car.
Cars also go light at Sheene Curve (I think it used to be called Dingle Dell) because the hill crests at the apex of the curve, this also doesn't help the weight balance... Nearly saved it though, tough luck, easily done..
That's a tough set of corners , the BMW saw him early and did the right thing but put him on maybe a slightly different line plus you always feel you need to go faster when someone moves out your way ...caption unfair that driver had / has a fair amout of talent. Brands GP is just awesome ... more fun on a bike but that's just my humble opinion !
“Never take your eyes off your opponent” Bruce lee
Damn!You can always ask for a bumper for Christmas mind🤞
Ha the way you said FOCK
Could've been a lot worse! Hope she was fixable and you went again :)
Yea, I'll take a new bumper as the limits of a trackday crash any day! She's fixed up and ready for a trackday in 2 weeks.
Thats unfortunate, that corner is hell
Those prius tires doing their magic 🥲
Ha, no they were only fitted for 1 trackday just to see what happened. It was tragic :D
I imagine knowing you're about to crash your car and its too late to stop it is probably one of the worst feelings
When not to push too hard, it always tempting to take that part of the track deep, but it does have a bit of a kick to it, un lucky mate, hopefully not to mush damage?
I’d advise you to take a drifting course. You could’ve controlled it/save it if your reaction time was faster. Which you can learn
Drifting is initiated on track and usually on a track with huge run offs, no grass usually.
Hopefully all you needed was a bumper. It’s easy to bin it but you got lucky this time.
Sounds like sports car sounded like in GTA 3
That last min opposite lock to try to spin backwards to the track is actually so close to saving the car but ya about .03 seconds to late on the Counter steer😣😞
What car was this?
It was (and still is) a GT86
The number of times I crashed at this corner in GT Sport...
I’ve passed here in Gran Turismo lmao, usually if I have to go that wide, I’ll hit the brakes more than usual to compensate for the upcoming apex. (Also helps not to hit the grass on the left as it seems that’s what initiated the whole spin).
- Not trying to be an armchair speaker lmao
Distracted by the E46 M3. You're only human....
At least it wasn't a Renault Clio lol
Reacting this slowly to oversteer...
Right? I’ll give him props for staying relaxed, but countersteering needs to happen as soon as the rear end steps out, not halfway though the slide.
Could have been a lot worse. Glad everything was OK in the end!
That curb got you good mate
He puts his thumb up like I got this. Was rather funny him being distracted by gesturing thank you.
i hope the repair wasn't too expensive
Hard to watch from the moment of upset, hope this was not your daily. Keep diggin' !
I've too spun a lot of times on that corner... On Asseto Corsa Competizione 😅
It happens, you'll get it next time 👍
we all have 😂.. He didn't hut it too hard luckily
My 2p is that you first went to turn in too early. Adjusted. Broke out of rhythm and then released the brakes a little too sudden followed by the steering input immediately after. This caused the unsettling of the weight to the outside tyres.
Fact is you were driving well and on the limits, so a small thing can have a large consequence.
That’s a lesson for a driver to expect that to happen, anticipate it in the background and react firmer and quicker… unluckily in racing that’s how we learn, by crashing
I say fk the same time you did as I m watching. Also I drive an 86 so double the feelings. Hope you are ok