Honda CL500. Owner answers questions / In depth walk-round / Sound and Thought's

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  • Опубликовано: 2 ноя 2024

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  • @josevi5835
    @josevi5835 Год назад +10

    This bike looks much better in the flesh. The one with blue tank is gorgeous! I tried one one month ago in Madrid area and I loved it. The 19" front wheel feels fantastic, clutch is very light and seat is very comfortable. The engine has enough power and I love driving position that is upright. Fantastic bike.

    • @WyreForestBiker
      @WyreForestBiker  Год назад +2

      Hi Jose, I agree it's looks really grow on you and it's great fun to ride .. I like the green ( obviously) and the orange is a stunning color too. Thanks for watching...

  • @LindaHebert-t7j
    @LindaHebert-t7j 23 дня назад

    Excellent review, David! Thank you! I actually watched the entire thing, which doesn't happen often with most of these RUclipss that people make. I love your bike. I have been considering one for myself. Have fun out there!

  • @tomasmaldini1585
    @tomasmaldini1585 6 месяцев назад +3

    Thanks for that sound, CL500 have great sound🥰

  • @YammieRalph
    @YammieRalph Год назад +4

    Wow it looks better than I was expecting after watching this video.
    An aftermarket exhaust & fender eliminator and this thing will be mint. Great video Brotha

    • @WyreForestBiker
      @WyreForestBiker  Год назад +1

      Thanks Rafael, yes it definitely looks better in the flesh and more so once you're used to it... thanks for watching.

  • @TaterRogers
    @TaterRogers 2 месяца назад +1

    Thanks for the video. Just bought mine yesterday and was looking for where the storage area was for your paperwork. Thanks mate!

  • @jamesnoonan7450
    @jamesnoonan7450 2 месяца назад

    I got a honda rebel 500 as my first bike, but found despite the fact im only 28 it killed my back ! Just not comftable. Took it back to the dealer and had a test ride on the CL500 bought one the same day fantastic machine. You've got the best of both worlds in my opinion, if you wanna go off road you can ! If you wanna tour on motorways you can. Unlike the rebel which is just a road focused machine.

    • @WyreForestBiker
      @WyreForestBiker  2 месяца назад

      100% James , a cruiser is a very specific type of bike NOT an all-rounder 😊

  • @richardjeffery1473
    @richardjeffery1473 3 месяца назад +1

    Thanks for this info very helpful. I will be keeping the passenger footpegs as I think that they would provide some protection if I was to drop the bike .

  • @artwithcharlie5524
    @artwithcharlie5524 10 месяцев назад +1

    Awesome video! Great to share tips on accessing the battery!

    • @WyreForestBiker
      @WyreForestBiker  10 месяцев назад

      Thanks Charlie, it was one of my first videos .. appreciate your comment .👍

  • @IVMTAB
    @IVMTAB Год назад +2

    Awesome video. Thanks for your work and for getting straight to the point.

    • @WyreForestBiker
      @WyreForestBiker  Год назад

      Thank you ,much appreciated 👍 I am working on improving the quality but will always get to the point😊.. thanks for watching.

  • @richardjones3112
    @richardjones3112 Год назад +4

    94mpg!!!!That would make a brilliant all year round commuter.Don’t like the look of the tank area and exhaust as mentioned but the mpg is a big plus.

    • @WyreForestBiker
      @WyreForestBiker  Год назад +1

      Yes its been consistent at 94 mpg now for over 1000 miles. The tank and exhaust grow on you after you live with it for a while ..Thanks for watching👍

  • @1990-t1j
    @1990-t1j Год назад +1

    Less hassle getting to the battery than with my SCR950, but still a bit fiddly. Great MPG on the CL500. Useful video. Nice garden. Thanks. Nick J

    • @WyreForestBiker
      @WyreForestBiker  Год назад

      Thanks Nick , yes its brilliant on fuel ... thanks for watching 👍

    • @1990-t1j
      @1990-t1j Год назад

      @@WyreForestBiker I'll watch a few more. It's either sell the 390 and get a CL to go with my 950. Or sell both my bikes and get an XSR700. My daily ride locally in Chiang Rai is a scooter: Yamaha Aerox 155.

  • @shardlake
    @shardlake Год назад +2

    Great update, hopefully picking mine up in the next couple of days, that Arrow exhaust looks good, although will wait to see what else the aftermarket come up with. Honda and Yamaha love those clips, very easy to lose, will watch out for your riding videos.

    • @WyreForestBiker
      @WyreForestBiker  Год назад

      Thanks Shardlake, That's great I'm sure you will love it. Funny you mentioned the clip , just been having a deep search for it, battery out the lot ... no luck it's vanished! Thanks for watching and commenting👍

    • @shardlake
      @shardlake Год назад

      @@WyreForestBiker I never found mine on my Yamaha...

    • @WyreForestBiker
      @WyreForestBiker  Год назад

      @@shardlake it's amazing how they vanish!

  • @FairladyS130
    @FairladyS130 4 месяца назад

    Useful tips, thanks muchly. Mine arrives in a few days, would prefer to have a tachometer but the exhaust is staying, it adds to the quirky look of this bike.

    • @WyreForestBiker
      @WyreForestBiker  4 месяца назад

      Thanks I'm sure you will love it ...glad you like the exhaust ,I agree it actually suits the overall design and looks much better in the flesh 👍

  • @mikedkc
    @mikedkc 11 месяцев назад +1

    It’s a beauty. Thanks for sharing.

    • @WyreForestBiker
      @WyreForestBiker  11 месяцев назад

      Thanks Mike 👍 ... I've put up loads more video's on the bike since,

  • @davewright-q5n
    @davewright-q5n 2 месяца назад +1

    The brake resivouirs on a cb500x --you can use the res covers on the cl500 i have already fitted them in my cl500

    • @WyreForestBiker
      @WyreForestBiker  2 месяца назад

      I have since fitted a rear one, video on channel ... Thanks

  • @snatr
    @snatr Год назад +2

    Thanks for sharing. You forgot to push that clip under the seat back in. Hope you didn't lose another one 😬

    • @WyreForestBiker
      @WyreForestBiker  Год назад +2

      Thanks Gary ... you're right, but I did remember to go back after filming ... which was good for me with my memory!! Thanks for watching👍

  • @Joeylaps610
    @Joeylaps610 Год назад +1

    Great video just bought mine and grabbing it next week

    • @WyreForestBiker
      @WyreForestBiker  Год назад +1

      That's great Joey enjoy it and ride safe , It's a great little bike thanks for watching.

  • @deanwelsh5702
    @deanwelsh5702 Год назад

    I’ve got a cb500x and I love it . I could see myself getting one of these as well. Would definitely change the exhaust tho I’ve got a scorpion on the cb500x sounds way better.

  • @jamessouthworth1699
    @jamessouthworth1699 16 дней назад

    I really want one of these but I want to modify the foot controls. I'd like to move them forward closer to the clutch cover.

    • @WyreForestBiker
      @WyreForestBiker  16 дней назад

      Hi James. The foot controls are already forward I think moving them further would cause your right shin to come into contact with the engine.

  • @theaustralianconundrum
    @theaustralianconundrum Год назад +1

    At least you didn't do what I did. Subscribed from Australia. I was after a retro naked so my dealer mate had a mint tradein with a mere 4,000 miles that I could have for what would be 6,000 quid in the UK. He sent me a couple pics and it looked great! Similar to yours. I got it delivered a month ago and had a first ride last week. OMG!!! As soon as I pressed the starter I was thinking "this sounds a tad meaty"??? So off I go and within 5 seconds it's trying to rip my arms off and I hadn't even gone past 4,000rpm? I had all the original paperwork and service booklet so I come back home with a feeling of elation and puzzlement. I get the manual out to find out it's 850cc and a triple. Then it says 117bhp and 90Nm of torque. I call him and say what you done? He says he thought I knew about these. Then he says, besides your old girl was 185bhp so you'll be fine. But I really like the look of your Honda and I didn't particularly want to go back to 3rd gear power wheelies at 120mph. He won't take it back now and says I'm a girl and to switch the mode to standard (wet), enable ABS and Traction control to 2. I'm so confused.

    • @WyreForestBiker
      @WyreForestBiker  Год назад +1

      A lesson learned then! ... do your research / always test ride before buying / choose your 'mates' carefully !! 😆... Thanks for watching 👍

    • @theaustralianconundrum
      @theaustralianconundrum Год назад

      @@WyreForestBiker Thanks mate. I do love it. Just didn't realize it was near on three times the bhp I was seeking.

  • @michaelevans1658
    @michaelevans1658 Год назад +1

    Looks better quality than my Triumph street twin .

    • @WyreForestBiker
      @WyreForestBiker  Год назад +2

      Well Michael 'Quality' is such a vague term it can mean different things to different people.. Honda are a huge company with a legendary reputation for quality and attention to detail in so many fields,( I have a Honda car and mower both of which are considered the most reliable you can buy!) But I have to say I think Triumph are up there with the very best which is admirable considering they did not exist a few decades ago and are a fraction of the size of the big boys. I have owned many Triumph's and they have all been very impressive, I would buy another without a second thought ... in fact I may be doing just that very soon, Thanks for watching👍

  • @ExpatsOn2Wheels
    @ExpatsOn2Wheels Год назад +1

    Thanks for this video. I'm very interested in this motorcycle.

    • @WyreForestBiker
      @WyreForestBiker  Год назад

      You're welcome, as you can tell I'm very happy with it. As with any bike try to get a test ride and see how it suits you... thanks for watching.

  • @areyou0k98
    @areyou0k98 Год назад +1

    Vance and hines has a sc500 exhaust as well

    • @WyreForestBiker
      @WyreForestBiker  Год назад

      Thanks, yes I've just taken a look, not available in UK yet but looks good 👍 . Be interesting how they all sound compared to the stock one.

  • @OldBlindMole
    @OldBlindMole Год назад +2

    You may need to refit the rear pegs "if the bike has a rear seat" for your MOT.

    • @saltaireorangebicyclechopp8555
      @saltaireorangebicyclechopp8555 3 месяца назад

      I didn't know that. I never carry a passenger and removed the pegs from my xvs950 as soon as l got it, it sailed through its mot yesterday without them.

  • @Bibbs420
    @Bibbs420 Год назад

    Nice update david. Would you say adjusting the spring is hard to do? Also hoping there will be some good aftermarket exhausts.
    I'm quite looking forward to getting my CL500, but I won't get it until spring 2024 and in the meantime I'll make do with RUclips videos.

    • @WyreForestBiker
      @WyreForestBiker  Год назад +1

      Hi Sven , No adjusting the rear pre-load is very easy ! In fact although the tool kit has a C-spanner specifically for the job you can actually do it with your bare hands! .. It's a shame I had thought of demonstrating it on the video but forgot. I'm sure you will love the bike. Below is the link for the exhaust I mentioned ...thanks again for watching .. Dave.
      www.ebay.co.uk/itm/385649068661?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=adewkJgqTam&sssrc=2047675&ssuid=iDXchNY7RPy&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

  • @saltaireorangebicyclechopp8555
    @saltaireorangebicyclechopp8555 3 месяца назад

    I like these and am getting used to the exhaust. But it just lacks something, a chrome this or that, spoked wheel option maybe, it just doesn't have any charm.

  • @l6j8b32
    @l6j8b32 Год назад +1

    Did you say 94 mpg? The NC750x with dct gets high numbers so I can only imagine a SCL500 with dct. Possibly 110mpg +. That would take me work and back for a whole month, one tank. However it is more fun to change your own gears.

    • @WyreForestBiker
      @WyreForestBiker  Год назад +1

      Yes its currently averaging 94.2 mpg (uk). Ridden gently on a commute you may get even more ... thanks for watching .

  • @clivepearce9766
    @clivepearce9766 Год назад

    I noticed the little lock by the radiator but you didn't mention it. What is it for? Hope you enjoy it, I have a CB500x but am also considering the CL500. Salut Clive.

    • @WyreForestBiker
      @WyreForestBiker  Год назад

      Hi Clive , that is the steering lock , it's separate because the ignition lock is on the side of the bike rather than on the headstock. Thanks for watching 👍

    • @clivepearce9766
      @clivepearce9766 Год назад

      @@WyreForestBiker Ah! thanks for that, fully understand. I still fancy one though 👍 Enjoyed your vid.

  • @Grahamx32
    @Grahamx32 9 месяцев назад

    Thanks for sharing, on the suspension, does one setting means it's more lower?

    • @WyreForestBiker
      @WyreForestBiker  9 месяцев назад

      Hi Graham . The adjustment puts more or less pressure on the spring ( called a pre-load adjuster). it does not alter the height of the bike as it stands but means your weight will push the bike down to a greater or lesser degree, the less pressure on the spring the more the spring will compress when under load.

    • @Grahamx32
      @Grahamx32 9 месяцев назад

      @@WyreForestBiker thanks for the info

  • @NavtejSandhu-c9u
    @NavtejSandhu-c9u Год назад

    Nice update, I got the same bike as you 🙂Which Honda dealer you had the 600 miles service done? My local is asking for more than £145.

    • @WyreForestBiker
      @WyreForestBiker  Год назад +2

      My local dealer was Sutton Honda Bromsgrove, they have other branches . Thee 1st service consists of an oil change and being hooked up to the computer to check all is ok ..£145 is MORE than enough! ... good luck and thanks for watching👍

    • @GO-fd6rm
      @GO-fd6rm Год назад

      @@WyreForestBikerI was thinking of buying from them! What do you think of them as a dealer?

  • @StuartStibbs-fv5sx
    @StuartStibbs-fv5sx Год назад

    Went to the dealer here in Oz. Not a bad bike...seat height is not 790 as advertised. Seat was rock hard....stupid ignition switch location...could have done better.. Price here is $9931..

  • @TheNorfolkThunderbolt
    @TheNorfolkThunderbolt 3 месяца назад

    I’m thinking of getting one of these….

    • @WyreForestBiker
      @WyreForestBiker  3 месяца назад +1

      Hi Steven ... that's great . I think one of it's best quality's is how light and easy to move around it feels , which also makes it so easy to ride . I have a gammy leg and it makes riding so stress free it's a pleasure . It feels FAR lighter than it's weight would suggest ( much lighter than a RE 350 for instance in my opinion)
      it also rides really well and is great fun with plenty of go.

  • @oi32df
    @oi32df Год назад +1

    I am close to 72cc to buy one. Here for displacement above 399cc we are robbed by the government for the plates

    • @WyreForestBiker
      @WyreForestBiker  Год назад

      That's a shame, where about's are you ? ...thanks for watching.

  • @markku2857
    @markku2857 4 дня назад

    How much you save weight removing rear footpegs?

    • @WyreForestBiker
      @WyreForestBiker  4 дня назад +1

      Not a lot ! .. it was more for cosmetic reasons .

  • @jeff97254
    @jeff97254 Год назад

    with the exhaust positioned that high, won't it burn the passenger at the back? can you make a video of it?

    • @WyreForestBiker
      @WyreForestBiker  Год назад +1

      Hi Jeff , no the exhaust has 2 heat shields , the stainless one with holes you can see and another underneath , It's cool to the touch and the same set up as on the Triumph Street Scrambler. I'll show it in detail on a video soon ...Thanks for watching 👍

  • @CanadaSims
    @CanadaSims Год назад

    Weird that the honda emblem on the tank is just a sticker?

  • @andreiak4753
    @andreiak4753 Год назад

    i want the 500 but i think the 250cc is good enough for riding in the town,so ill go with 250,the cl 250cc of my friend told me he pushed it to 140km on the highway here in japan😁

    • @WyreForestBiker
      @WyreForestBiker  Год назад +1

      Hi Andrei, in the UK we don't get the 250 version but I imagine it would be fine around town. I can confirm 150kph is no problem on the 500.... thank you for watching.

  • @ropeysubstance1719
    @ropeysubstance1719 Год назад

    how are you able to lift the rear of this bike when doing tire changes? the swingarm looks tubular/rounded so would a traditional rear lift stand now work?

    • @WyreForestBiker
      @WyreForestBiker  Год назад +1

      You would need a stand with the 'cup type' adaptors rather than the bobbin type. Most stands have them as an option. Thanks for watching👍

  • @upsguy9380
    @upsguy9380 Год назад +1

    Really want to like this scrambler but don't like muffler. On a true scrambler the muffler runs horizontal from the motor to the very end. On this bike the muffler runs completely underneath motor which can be bad if you bottom out. Hopefully an aftermarket supplier will make a new muffler that resembles the 900 or 1200 Triumphs. Just my take.

    • @WyreForestBiker
      @WyreForestBiker  Год назад +1

      Yes I take your point . In it's defence I would say it is not intended for real off-road use but I'm sure there will be aftermarket alternatives that don't go under the engine ....Thanks for watching

  • @Njordica666
    @Njordica666 5 месяцев назад

    Is it always easy to remove the seat? I have been trying it on my CL500 for like 1 hour, but didn't manage to do that even when using both hands. 😢

    • @WyreForestBiker
      @WyreForestBiker  5 месяцев назад

      Yes it's fine .... left hand on key right hand on back of seat ... Turn key clockwise 45 degree's and hold it there, then pull seat backwards ( not up! ) it will come off with ease...

    • @Njordica666
      @Njordica666 5 месяцев назад

      @@WyreForestBiker Thanks! That's what I was doing exactly, but the seat won't move back enough to allow me to pull it up. It always gets stucked on those two little hooks. There must be something wrong with the front pointer (hope that's the correct word) that is pushed to the frame. I don't wanna break it so I will probably need to get it fixed in a repair shop.

  • @siddarthrahut6353
    @siddarthrahut6353 Год назад

    Does it have heating handle bars? Is it default or paid add on?

    • @WyreForestBiker
      @WyreForestBiker  Год назад +1

      Hi Siddarth , Yes heated grips are an optional extra , quite expensive with the necessary fitting kit but very good quality by all accounts . They can also be purchased as part of the 'accessory packs' that are available ..Thanks for watching👍

  • @plasticfloor121
    @plasticfloor121 Год назад

    Test riding one tomorrow 😊

    • @WyreForestBiker
      @WyreForestBiker  Год назад

      Thats great hope you like it , drop a comment on your thoughts ...thanks for watching.

  • @rchydrozz751
    @rchydrozz751 Год назад

    I've waited decades for a new CL to replace my older one, and this is what they come up with.

  • @ericdekervarec9824
    @ericdekervarec9824 Год назад

    why would you let your phone under the seat? yuo have no pocket?or back bag?. this bike is new so do you think they could change something?asthe board to allow a better read in good light. maybe the contact key would have a better place handle bars and the silencer could be lower?

    • @WyreForestBiker
      @WyreForestBiker  Год назад

      Hi, I used the phone case as a size example . personally I would prefer the ignition mounted on the top yoke ...Thanks for watching👍

  • @Federico_
    @Federico_ Год назад

    How tall are you? I am 6'4 and I am worried the bike might be too small

    • @WyreForestBiker
      @WyreForestBiker  Год назад

      Hi Fredrico, I am almost a foot shorter than you so hard for me to judge . Obviously you would be better with the optional (brown) higher seat which raises the height to 820 mm I believe. It is a smallish bike though... only one way to find out ! ...thanks for watching 👍

  • @alekmarin7840
    @alekmarin7840 Год назад

    What's top speed pal

    • @WyreForestBiker
      @WyreForestBiker  Год назад +1

      The fastest I've ever been on one of these ( not my own) is 95 mph ... im sure they could do more, but im not an especially fast ruder ... thanks for watching.

  • @peterkirke5172
    @peterkirke5172 Год назад

    abs steering lock

  • @allenlin9116
    @allenlin9116 Год назад

    "Does the Honda CL500 have both exhaust outlets simultaneously emitting exhaust?"

    • @WyreForestBiker
      @WyreForestBiker  Год назад

      Hi. Yes both outlets are active , I understand they are tuned chambers that give a more fully rounded sound (rather like a musical instrument) .
      Thanks for watching👍

  • @ronsmith7262
    @ronsmith7262 Год назад

    will it do 100mph?

    • @WyreForestBiker
      @WyreForestBiker  Год назад +1

      Hi Ron , yes it will but if you want to keep your license I wouldn't advise it ... thanks for watching.

    • @ronsmith7262
      @ronsmith7262 Год назад +3

      @@WyreForestBiker I’m happy at 45 but it’s nice to know someone went that fast.

  • @simonchilli2088
    @simonchilli2088 Год назад

    As with the CMX 500 and 1100 the fuel tank line taxe a bit of getting used to. Overall a nice looking bike in the black engine. A rev counter would be handy tho.

    • @WyreForestBiker
      @WyreForestBiker  Год назад +1

      Yes Simon agree about the tank design; Its strange how quickly you get used to it though, I honestly don't even notice it now. You are right a rev counter would be handy while you get used to the engine at least. ..Many thanks for watching...Dave.

    • @simonchilli2088
      @simonchilli2088 Год назад

      @@WyreForestBiker Now for some riding vids in this improved weather mate!

    • @WyreForestBiker
      @WyreForestBiker  Год назад

      @@simonchilli2088 Yes Simon I'm just waiting on the equipment ... It's a bit of a minefield to get the right stuff that works reliably!

  • @chrislaws4785
    @chrislaws4785 Год назад

    The only bad part of this bike, and really ALL current Hondas, is that GOD AWFUL suitcase of an exhaust. Honda needs to DO BETTER when it comes to those things.

    • @WyreForestBiker
      @WyreForestBiker  Год назад +3

      Hi Chris, I know what you're saying, funny how quickly you begin to get used to it and actually like it though! It's the same with many design elements on all things ...after a while they become normal and look fine. Thanks for watching. 👍

  • @일렉트로시티
    @일렉트로시티 Год назад

    아~ 아릅답다 내 자전거는 어디에 있을까!!

  • @ker4all
    @ker4all Год назад

    Too bad about the sound level...very difficult to hear all the info clearly.

    • @WyreForestBiker
      @WyreForestBiker  Год назад

      Sorry about that ... it was one of my first ever video's and recorded on my phone, I have improved sound since ...thanks for watching👍

  • @b.w.2016
    @b.w.2016 5 месяцев назад

    I can't hear youl

  • @walsmachinist1
    @walsmachinist1 Год назад +1

    The sidepanels are trash, the seats are not very comfy, the rest of the bike is very nice, only miss the rev counter. Two weeks ago I have changed the steer, now I have two risers 25 mm with a steer of the new Honda Hornet. A got a brown seat which I did modify to get a level position of my butt, now the bike feels extremely nimble, and comfortable too, no pain in my bottom!

    • @WyreForestBiker
      @WyreForestBiker  Год назад +2

      Hi Ad, the sidepanels are very simple but this is a budget bike, as for the seat personally I've found it fine after 1000 miles of use. I agree a rev counter would have been nice. ...Thanks for watching👍

    • @walsmachinist1
      @walsmachinist1 Год назад

      @@WyreForestBiker I wanted to take a look at the tool kit, so I took of this sidepanel and I could not remount it again, needed a Tyrib to make the sidepanel fit again. Why not with some screws or simply three holes with three pins at the panel so it can easily pressed into the hole?

    • @WyreForestBiker
      @WyreForestBiker  Год назад

      @@walsmachinist1 Ad .. I've done a video about the clips showing how to re-fit them ...check it out👍ruclips.net/video/VHOkTm4mcaE/видео.html

  • @zefautino
    @zefautino Год назад

    Still using your expensive iphuck....

    • @WyreForestBiker
      @WyreForestBiker  Год назад +1

      You clearly hate I phones... glad I have a Samsung .

    • @zefautino
      @zefautino Год назад

      @@WyreForestBiker cool, so do I.
      You probably have the stabilisation off. My ancient S7 has video stabilisation, I'll assume you have a newer one, and that you can also activate stabilisation on your settings. 😉

    • @zefautino
      @zefautino Год назад

      On the Arrow.
      I own one. Quality is there, undeniably. Not cheap, but if you want cheap you cry twice. The thing is, it's a homologated exhaust, street legal and all those shenanigans, the sound is so annoying. If I remove the baffle, is just unbearable. The noise inside the helmet becomes deafening, specially when you let go of the throttle.
      I have two Hondas, with the same engine, Arrow on one, factory exhaust on the other. Every time I ride the one with the Arrow... F me, the Honda exhaust is so much more pleasant. Yes, it changes the way you ride, once the 🐈 if off (both have no kittens) not that huge of a difference. The one with the Arrow I couldn't just take the 🐈 out...
      I like your videos. So much so, I just rewatched this one. I would like to hear you talk about the engine, how it vibrates and leaves your right wrist/hand numb, about the headlights at night (if possible side by side with a Yamaha (f Yamaha)), further ahead also about shifting and regularly missing gears (my experience, but could be that specific engine), those lovely tyres in the rain and under hard braking...
      Suspension, that development center Honda runs in Thailand doesn't help. Those blokes weigh 60kg, we weigh 80+... The best investment is new springs. I tried going the "cheaper" route, I cried, and I cried, and cried...
      Don't buy Chinese crap, I've heard of YSS blowing at 90.000 km. Seems a good investment. Service them, and it's ready for another 60k, 70k?