This kit was so easy to install on my 1026R...Fits perfectly and looks like it came with the tractor...and HydrosPlus has the flow adjustable so if it is too fast for you it can be turned down. Gets me multiple functions on the BH and FEL.
I have added this HydrosPlus assembly using the higher capacity pump (9gpm). I also have the Summit four-spool remote hydraulics kit. Lastly, I did the tweak to my pressure valve to increase it to 2100psi. All of these changes sure make this little tractor (2018 1025r) from a pee-wee into Goliath. A LOT more lift on the front loader and backhoe, plus the extra flow available allows you to use multiple control spools at the same time. I even had my wife operate the front loader while I played with the backhoe controls and all four spools on the backhoe still functioned at the same time as the two spools on the loader. Amazing stuff considering how puny these things are from the factory! This new larger capacity pump and new adjustable splitter valve really do give these little machines a whole new personality. Ad Kevin gives such great support for his product! Something else to consider is just how much ballast weight all of this adds to the rear of the tractor. When I also added a hydraulic top link, hydraulic tipping link, flow control valves and hoses, it has added 143lbs so far. About $2600 so far, but I believe my little machine is about as versatile as any much bigger tractor now. Warranty be damned!
This kit is very easy to install and Kevin is great to work with. Plus his install vids are awesome! I installed Deere’s factory 3rd function and I would say that was 10x MORE difficult than the Hydrosplus install. And Kevin supplies high quality components with most hydraulic fittings being o-ring face seals. When I started my tractor up after the install, there were no leaks. It’s a completely different tractor; in a good way! I highly recommend this kit!
Deployed to Kenya, still found a way to continue to watch your videos! - best way to test the lower steering gpms: weighted pallet, or bucket full of material, attempt turning while in that soft woods dirt.
That is really darn cool! Hope Deere is watching this, let's see some factory upgrades here, guys, look what's possible with just bolt-on upgrades already! Step it up!
Very interesting! Thank you for seeking this out and research! Love how you look for solutions instead of just saying”that is all it can do”. Great job!
All roads lead to Batesville, Arkansas! I’d know Niem’s voice anywhere! Love that guy! Long time watcher Tim, keep up the good work, and next time you are around here, dinner is on me.
Amazing news and demo! On the pruning, I totally agree with at least two cuts to avoid stripping the bark. As the saw dulls, that's even vital on the smaller branches.
What a boon to 1025R owners for added functionality. Being able to use the Limbsaw shows that with the increased flow, there are other hydraulic attachments and devices that could be utilized thru the existing hydraulic SCV’s, even if only for temporary uses. The mind wanders... Blessings!
This is a great option for the biggest problem with these little tractors. I have been thinking about an auxillary pump and resivoir for my BX 25 to operate a hydraulic bush mower. Thanks for the video.
That is honestly amazing! I wouldn't worry about the heat one bit. Like it was states in the video the hydrostat pump is considerably larger than this upgraded pump. Imagine how much more heat that thing could generate pulling a heavy load.
Tim, I knew you would be trying this out when I found his channel. Probably won't be adding it to mine right now, but after warranty expires???? Great information!!
Just an FYI the only way the warranty would be void is if they can prove that what you did caused the broken part to become damaged. The magnuson moss warranty act applies to all consumer goods not just cars.
Great video Tim. That is a great solution. Always can use more flow. I was surprised to see your 5 series has less than 12. You should see if he can provide better pumps for larger tractors, specifically my 4320 hint, hint!
I hate the slow loader speed on mine. I had a Yanmar before and it was quicker. Once you've experienced speed it is frustrating to wait for the bucket.
@@rebelcitysports1outlook713 which a Kioti ? They have a stronger backhoe? I’m down to three choices , John Deere 1 series, Kioti 2520 or 2220 , LS MT125 or Mahindra Max or Emax.These seem to be the only ones with position control on the smaller subcompacts.
this was actually pretty useful and something i could see putting on a 1025r myself....i do like the hydrolic cooling system on the 1025r, im not sure why no other manufacture has done a similar system, to me it would make your tractor and hydro run cooler, especially out west here in the hot dry heat...
Hey Tim - I noticed you are using the same steering wheel spinner knob as me. And yours is canted like mine was. I moved it to a spot where the wheel is more round vs oval, and cranked the crap out of the hex bolts to tighten it. Works much better when it is straight up and down vs canted! I had another model on my 322, and it held the upright position better than on the 1025 steering wheel.
Oh, right! Dang it. Well, I think on one of your videos you talked about how that particular spinner was not a good fit for the 1025 wheel. I had that problem too. I had an all-metal spinner that fit perfectly on my 322 but would not work on the 1025.
Another option would be a pto pump and tank setup on the rear then you could power a front mounted shredder, auger, limb saw, log splitter or any other high demand implementation. I had a 3point backhoe powered by a pto pump that flowed 11gpm on my L2501 even at idle it had plenty of flow. This would also preserve warranty and cost less than $1,000 and with the use of quick connections could be used to power various implements.
Thanks for confirming what I've seen on the Hydroaplus videos. Looks to be a great solution for hydraulic flow. Have you ever considered trying this with a hydraulic auger, either backhoe mount or loader mounted configuration.?
Tim, this was an excellent video I love your search for technology. By the way is there anything this ingenious young man can do about increasing the flows on the large frame 2s
Great demo……. Limb sawing and digging a hole in someone else’s yard. What fun. Question……. How many did you take home? I just wonder if John Deere doesn’t just buy one of these for a test tractor. My dad would always welded a piece of rebar to the clutch pedal because he had a left wooden leg. He never had a warranty on the old Ford tractor anyway. Worth your trip to Arkansas.
@@PatrickKQ4HBD My dad, George T. Raber, would not let anything hold him back. He lost his leg at a young man to an infection. He was a public servant for over 30 years, had 7 children, came from a farming family. He won six consecutive six year terms as Circuit Count Clerk here in Henderson, KY. Loved his local Lions club, always first to volunteer to put up flags around town on weekends, loved cooking chickens for family events. The biggest problem he had was dimming his head lights on his cars. (The dimmer switch was on the floor, not the light stalk.) He loved gardening, giving away vegetables to any visitors. He feed many young preachers in our church. My dad has been gone now for 20 years. I still miss his humor ever day. Thank you for your comment. He was a stud!!!!!
Kevin has created a huge hydraulic cooler that fits up front and is easy to install. It’s called the Hydrosplus Cooler+ and it keeps the hydraulic fluid nice and cool no matter how hard you run it, especially compared to the stock cooler.
Easily adjustable with a 1/2 wrench to remove the dust cap (or pliers in a pinch) and a flat head screwdriver to adjust the set screw. Not sure if that meets your criteria for "on the fly", but you can definitely adjust as you change applications - more steering for mowing, less steering for backhoe work, etc.
That valve is expensive. JD would not put it on the low end tractor (small ) tractor like the comment above. But for utility higher flow is good, for "tractor" pulling things not so much. See popularity of high flow skid steers and thier implements.
Tim: If you could only choose one for your property trail maintenance would it be an out front mower like the brush tiger or the limb saw and a pto brush hog? Thanks. Wayne
Tim, great video and this is exactly the kind of content I’m looking for! You are looking very impressive on the operation of the backhoe! So how would this work for a BX Does a skid steer post hole digger work with the increased flow?
Sounds nice, but can the structure of the tractor survive the added bending that can happen with the added power the tool(s) can apply....There Has to be a limit, how far are you from that?
I bought the biggest pump from Kevin at Hydrosplus for my 1025r just for this limbsaw. Love the extra flow for bucket and grapple as well as able to run at lower RPM. I see in all your videos you mount the limbsaw on the pallet fork. Is that so you can move from side to side? Did you mount it just at the rear of pallet fork only? Or another mount up farther? Thanks Tim for the 10% off and Kevin for a GREAT kit
Good question. Well, the 8gpm pump is same as 2025r...which presumably uses same driveline...could be checked at jdparts.com. Only the 9.5 gpm pump would be above this. I would be highly surprised if there is a problem, but that is not an engineering answer.
With the enhanced flow you could put larger cylinders on the loader lift function and increase the lift capacity without increasing the pressure and still maybe get reasonable response speed.
Master Tim just so you know this (not picking on your statement at all) my TYM T264 is a sub compact and has a hydraulic oil cooler (no HST fan at all). The recently announced sucessor to the T264, the T25, will have a hydaulic oil cooler as well. 🙂 Thank you good sir for the wonderful videos as always!
It absolutely can, but even so, Kevin has an awesome solution called the Hydrosplus Cooler+ that keeps the hydraulic fluid nice and cool no matter how hard you run it. The Cooler+ absolutely dwarfs the stock cooler and makes it look like a toy in contrast.
Very nice! Thanks Tim! I had a BX with the plastic fan on the input shaft. When working it hard the transmission case would get so hot you could barely touch it. When doing comparable work with the 1025R, the transmission case gets warm but never hot. Not very scientific but from my experience the Deere hydraulic system runs much lower temperature when doing the same job. It is a more efficient way to control oil temperature. I seriously doubt this system will cause any overheating issues. Great design! I agree with others. Bet we see this improvement on the next 1025R.
Tim, I would have liked to see you demonstrate the maximum speed various motions could be performed at and also compare stock speeds to upgraded speeds. Where you moving the backhoe as quickly as it would move during the video? Some other commenters mentioned that the hydraulic cooler is only on the return circuit for the steering so this substantially reduces the proportional amount going through the cooling circuit. Is that correct? I'm a bit surprised to hear that (if correct) because the 1025R's system would likely produce the most heat when the tractor is being worked hard towing a field prepping implement like a plow or disk. Those hydrostatic drives can produce a lot of heat depending on the design and what speed is being asked for.
First, hydrosplus has a direct comparison video on his page. Yes, moving backhoe at max speeds. Not sure about where hydraulic cooler fits in, but it doesn’t really matter. If flow is lower through the cooler, it will cool that oil more. The cooled oil will mix back in with the non cooled oil….where it comes to equilibrium. Another viewer has done some more heat testing. We have not yet published the results, but he found very little increase in temps over long runs even in 90 plus degree heat. Maybe 3 degrees hotter.
@@TractorTimewithTim thanks for the prompt reply and for all of the awesome videos. I just bought a 2018 1025R TLB and hope to receive it next week, (subject to it being in excellent condition and me not backing out). I've been spending many hours researching what sort of implements and/or upgrades I plan to get. These subcompact tractors are so hard to findI these days in my end of the world that I ended up buying it sight unseen through a large dealer with locations all over the country. It is crazy but I've tried to buy 3 other 1025Rs and each one sold before I had a chance to inspect it and put in an offer. I also did put in an offer with one more, a 3 hour drive away, but it too sold before the owner got back to me. The only ones local to me are asking about the same price I can buy one brand new for. Some are rather old too, like 2014s...
@@Slider68 new ones are coming available again. Supply of the 1025r’s seems to be recovering. 2 weeks now to get a new one at my dealer. The other local dealer here has 3 or 4 sitting on the lot.
@@TractorTimewithTim I wonder when things will improve here in Canada. My local dealer told me last week that his last new one he sold "only" took 6 weeks to arrive and that he should be able to get us a new one in slightly under 2 months. I also called around a few weeks ago to dealers up to 750 miles away and none had any 1025R's in stock and all told me 2 months or more to order one. Many of them implied that was fast so I assumed either they had been harder to get recently or they normally take longer than 2 months.
All the fittings and hoses on the 1 series are at least 3/8. 3/8 will flow ~10 GPM, so in theory the 2 circuits (steering and implement) could have a total flow of 20 GPM, but the pump is connected to the flow divider by a 1/2 tube, which can flow ~16 GPM, so that would technically be the weak point. All this said, there are varying opinions across the industry on what should and can be done, but that breaks into nerdy areas like laminar flow and nomographs. I don't plan to test anything more than about 12-13 gpms.
Hey Kevin @hydrosplus, I know you’ve answered a similar question of mine about the 1/4” quick connects being able to handle more flow than some specify a little while back, but with the Summit front third function kits, for example, which use 1/4” hydraulic hoses and quick connects, is there any trouble running the Limbsaw through those 1/4” hoses and quick connects at all? I noticed that limbsaw says to use at least 3/8” hoses, but I have a Summit diverter up front with 1/4” hoses, and it seems like it has plenty of flow for the Limbsaw. Do you see any concerns with that kind of setup and/or is that the same kind of setup you used here? This is probably one of my favorite videos yet, because it shows what your Hydrosplus kits let people do with their 1025R machines that could never happen with the sluggish stock hydraulics. Thanks again for your game-changing solutions!
I have always thought Deere and Kubota have restricted the abilities of these tractors because the buyers are first time equipment operators. I struggled when I would go from a Deere 310 to a BX I couldn't achieve the results do to flow. With this modification Deere should look into this as a industrial 1025R paint it Yellow and Black. This looks like it is puting the backhoe on par with a 1ton mini ex. I think you should ask the CFO for funding.
As Kevin mentioned, the 8 GPM pump is the same as included in the 2025r...so the drivetrain already handles that one. Only the 9.5gpm pump would be in question.
I can't say for sure since I don't run chains, but there is about 2.5 inches between the tire and the nearest component of the kit. The flow divider definitely won't interfere, but the steering tube is the closest tot he tire so that it can clear the mower lift linkage (if equipped)
Very nifty stuff. Faster and smoother with the implements and now the "most loved" implement of all (PTO post hole digger) could maybe become a hydraulic and reversible auger so you can get it out of what you got it into. You just have to pay attention to the flow requirements of hydraulic augers as what I have seen this is on the minimum end of what they want. Maybe the optional big volume pump would cover that. Hope you get a chance to try these out at length.
Hey Tim . I'm glad you got to use this. I've been watching his progress on this kit and had mentioned talking to you about it. I know it increases flow. But capacity is the backhoes root busting capability yes?? Did you notice any added strength as you where digging?? Or was it the same?? Because I had asked him if it would help with bust out power. Thank you Tim
I discussed this in the video...but folks continue to ask. Perhaps I wasn’t clear enough? This kit increases flow. Flow increases speed. Has no effect on power. Increasing pressure would increase the backhoe power/strength.
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This kit was so easy to install on my 1026R...Fits perfectly and looks like it came with the tractor...and HydrosPlus has the flow adjustable so if it is too fast for you it can be turned down. Gets me multiple functions on the BH and FEL.
I have added this HydrosPlus assembly using the higher capacity pump (9gpm). I also have the Summit four-spool remote hydraulics kit. Lastly, I did the tweak to my pressure valve to increase it to 2100psi. All of these changes sure make this little tractor (2018 1025r) from a pee-wee into Goliath. A LOT more lift on the front loader and backhoe, plus the extra flow available allows you to use multiple control spools at the same time. I even had my wife operate the front loader while I played with the backhoe controls and all four spools on the backhoe still functioned at the same time as the two spools on the loader. Amazing stuff considering how puny these things are from the factory!
This new larger capacity pump and new adjustable splitter valve really do give these little machines a whole new personality. Ad Kevin gives such great support for his product!
Something else to consider is just how much ballast weight all of this adds to the rear of the tractor. When I also added a hydraulic top link, hydraulic tipping link, flow control valves and hoses, it has added 143lbs so far.
About $2600 so far, but I believe my little machine is about as versatile as any much bigger tractor now. Warranty be damned!
God Bless America! Another great American inventor.
Good old American know how.
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This kit is very easy to install and Kevin is great to work with. Plus his install vids are awesome! I installed Deere’s factory 3rd function and I would say that was 10x MORE difficult than the Hydrosplus install. And Kevin supplies high quality components with most hydraulic fittings being o-ring face seals. When I started my tractor up after the install, there were no leaks. It’s a completely different tractor; in a good way! I highly recommend this kit!
This deserves a full "Home Improvement Tool Time" TV comedy show more power "R-R-RR-RRRR" grunt salute for sure! 👊🤠
You never cease to Amaze your viewers. This is Awesome!
Deployed to Kenya, still found a way to continue to watch your videos!
- best way to test the lower steering gpms: weighted pallet, or bucket full of material, attempt turning while in that soft woods dirt.
Thank you for your service. Thanks also for continuing to watch!
That is really darn cool! Hope Deere is watching this, let's see some factory upgrades here, guys, look what's possible with just bolt-on upgrades already! Step it up!
Very interesting! Thank you for seeking this out and research! Love how you look for solutions instead of just saying”that is all it can do”. Great job!
A hydro snowblower on the front loader would be the game changer for me
All roads lead to Batesville, Arkansas! I’d know Niem’s voice anywhere! Love that guy! Long time watcher Tim, keep up the good work, and next time you are around here, dinner is on me.
please refer to the magnoss moss warranty act if you have concerns about voiding your warranty.
when you start a video with voided warranty warnings, I'm interested!
This is the coolest thing ever. Makes the backhoe look much more capable.
Amazing news and demo! On the pruning, I totally agree with at least two cuts to avoid stripping the bark. As the saw dulls, that's even vital on the smaller branches.
I absolutely love subcompact tractors, especially the 1025r, because you can do so much with them!
Very impressed with how efficient the backhoe works with more flow. Looks a lot closer to how a mini excavator works. Way smoother too!
...and I think I would get better operating it with more practice.
My old Yanmar backhoe I ran it on the thousand RPM PTO instead of the 540 setting 540 setting was like watching paint dry!
You made that backhoe backfill look easy. Bet it even felt good.
Woo Pig Sooie!!!
Northwest Arkansas Is my Home. It’s a Beautiful place to live!!!
WOW, I've wanted the limbsaw bad but really needed the more compact 1025r. Now I can do both, and smoother too
Hi Tim an Christie thanks for your time and effort have a day love from TEXAS
With an intro like that I have to hit like immediately
What a boon to 1025R owners for added functionality. Being able to use the Limbsaw shows that with the increased flow, there are other hydraulic attachments and devices that could be utilized thru the existing hydraulic SCV’s, even if only for temporary uses. The mind wanders... Blessings!
This is a great option for the biggest problem with these little tractors. I have been thinking about an auxillary pump and resivoir for my BX 25 to operate a hydraulic bush mower. Thanks for the video.
This seems like a very interesting and even necessary upgrade. Hydraulic attachments are so useful, this would be a great force multiplier
Watched some of his videos on his testing- pretty cool stuff. I think one of these upgrades is in my future.
I think 12gpm sounds like a good medium Tim!
Nice, whish I had dirt like that in my little neck of the woods in NW Arkansas.
Thanks for testing this. Looking forward to Deere’s response.
Just the other day I was thinking my 2025R needed more flow.. Thanks for the demo. On to the 'Finance Committee'.
That is honestly amazing! I wouldn't worry about the heat one bit. Like it was states in the video the hydrostat pump is considerably larger than this upgraded pump. Imagine how much more heat that thing could generate pulling a heavy load.
Tim you are running that backhoe as good as anyone
Ha! I’m sure others could run it better.
Pretty cool! We have a New Holland 555E like you said when I am digging I normally keep it around 30% throttle just to keep the speed down.
That is a pretty cool set up to have increased flow! Improved performance for sure!
Tim, I knew you would be trying this out when I found his channel. Probably won't be adding it to mine right now, but after warranty expires???? Great information!!
Thanks Kris! Hope you are doing well.
Hey Tim. My LS MT 125 has 2 hyd pumps 1 for the streeing and 1 for impaments.
You make that backhoe look very easy to use Tim. This is possibly turning small farming equipment into semi construction without the price tag!
As an Arkansan, I approve! Hope you enjoyed the natural state!
Excellent video Tim & Christy!!.. Very informative.. Seems like a great kit for the little Deere.. Have a nice week..
I would have liked to see how the steering was with 1,000 lbs. on the forks
This looks like a much needed modification. Thanks Tim!
Ummm..well I think my warranty has just expired...Yup! LOL! Great info. Thanks for sharing!
Just an FYI the only way the warranty would be void is if they can prove that what you did caused the broken part to become damaged. The magnuson moss warranty act applies to all consumer goods not just cars.
Awesome video Tim. This is very tempting despite the warranty implications.
So glad you did this. I've been watching Kevin and have been intrigued but scared to mod. It's so tempting and looks easy enough to make me happy 😜
Great video Tim. That is a great solution. Always can use more flow. I was surprised to see your 5 series has less than 12. You should see if he can provide better pumps for larger tractors, specifically my 4320 hint, hint!
GPM is the only reason I bought a Kioti over a JD. They need vast improvement.
Hey Tim 🚜 I really enjoyed this video I really appreciate you sharing this information 🇺🇲
Proud you made it down to Arkansas for the first time! I hope you enjoyed "The Natural State".
Sorry we didn’t get time to stop by :-(
Hope they come out with something for the 3R soon. They have a 2/3E section on their website but it's empty.
Yep…in the works!!!
I hate the slow loader speed on mine. I had a Yanmar before and it was quicker. Once you've experienced speed it is frustrating to wait for the bucket.
That's precisely why I bought a Kioti.
@@rebelcitysports1outlook713 which a Kioti ? They have a stronger backhoe? I’m down to three choices , John Deere 1 series, Kioti 2520 or 2220 , LS MT125 or Mahindra Max or Emax.These seem to be the only ones with position control on the smaller subcompacts.
LS MT 125 does not have position control...at least the 2018 model did not ...
@@TractorTimewithTim Geez I thought I saw it on the last brochure I picked up . This was several years ago.
Great video thanks Larry
this was actually pretty useful and something i could see putting on a 1025r myself....i do like the hydrolic cooling system on the 1025r, im not sure why no other manufacture has done a similar system, to me it would make your tractor and hydro run cooler, especially out west here in the hot dry heat...
Hey Tim - I noticed you are using the same steering wheel spinner knob as me. And yours is canted like mine was. I moved it to a spot where the wheel is more round vs oval, and cranked the crap out of the hex bolts to tighten it. Works much better when it is straight up and down vs canted! I had another model on my 322, and it held the upright position better than on the 1025 steering wheel.
This is not my tractor, Craig!
Oh, right! Dang it. Well, I think on one of your videos you talked about how that particular spinner was not a good fit for the 1025 wheel. I had that problem too. I had an all-metal spinner that fit perfectly on my 322 but would not work on the 1025.
Man I hope he makes a solution for the large frame 2 series in the future.
Me too!
@@TractorTimewithTim How about 3 series. I have a hydraulic pole hole digger that would work better with more flow.
What brand and model post hole digger? Loader mount or 3pt?
I need for my 2032R!
Another option would be a pto pump and tank setup on the rear then you could power a front mounted shredder, auger, limb saw, log splitter or any other high demand implementation. I had a 3point backhoe powered by a pto pump that flowed 11gpm on my L2501 even at idle it had plenty of flow. This would also preserve warranty and cost less than $1,000 and with the use of quick connections could be used to power various implements.
Thanks for confirming what I've seen on the Hydroaplus videos. Looks to be a great solution for hydraulic flow. Have you ever considered trying this with a hydraulic auger, either backhoe mount or loader mounted configuration.?
Tim we think is one of the best upgrade you have shown we have orange 🍊so now we have another delema
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This was interesting, you were the perfect user to test this out 👍🏻
Definitely especially with the backhoe. Skilled and experienced operator who appreciates the difference.
Tim, this was an excellent video I love your search for technology. By the way is there anything this ingenious young man can do about increasing the flows on the large frame 2s
Loan Kevin a tractor for a few months and who knows?
I am going to look into more.
Great demo……. Limb sawing and digging a hole in someone else’s yard. What fun. Question……. How many did you take home? I just wonder if John Deere doesn’t just buy one of these for a test tractor. My dad would always welded a piece of rebar to the clutch pedal because he had a left wooden leg. He never had a warranty on the old Ford tractor anyway. Worth your trip to Arkansas.
Running a manual transmission tractor with an honest to goodness wooden leg? What a stud!
@@PatrickKQ4HBD My dad, George T. Raber, would not let anything hold him back. He lost his leg at a young man to an infection. He was a public servant for over 30 years, had 7 children, came from a farming family. He won six consecutive six year terms as Circuit Count Clerk here in Henderson, KY. Loved his local Lions club, always first to volunteer to put up flags around town on weekends, loved cooking chickens for family events. The biggest problem he had was dimming his head lights on his cars. (The dimmer switch was on the floor, not the light stalk.) He loved gardening, giving away vegetables to any visitors. He feed many young preachers in our church. My dad has been gone now for 20 years. I still miss his humor ever day. Thank you for your comment. He was a stud!!!!!
Is their enough room for a bigger hydro cooler up front to add to kit
Tim you have a lot of maintenance videos about 1025r, can you do same for 203r as well.
Kevin has created a huge hydraulic cooler that fits up front and is easy to install. It’s called the Hydrosplus Cooler+ and it keeps the hydraulic fluid nice and cool no matter how hard you run it, especially compared to the stock cooler.
I'm curious if the flow percentage is adjustable on the fly or if it is set when one installs the kit.
Easily adjustable with a 1/2 wrench to remove the dust cap (or pliers in a pinch) and a flat head screwdriver to adjust the set screw. Not sure if that meets your criteria for "on the fly", but you can definitely adjust as you change applications - more steering for mowing, less steering for backhoe work, etc.
I happened to see this video and the next day I ordered one. I know what I'll be doing this weekend.
Cool!
Would love to try something like this on my massey ferguson 1725. Thanks for the video.
Hope Deere looks at this and puts it to use in future tractors.
Deere doesn't want this because they want to sell u a bigger more capable tractor lol
@@adambowhuntz Sounds about right.
That valve is expensive. JD would not put it on the low end tractor (small ) tractor like the comment above. But for utility higher flow is good, for "tractor" pulling things not so much. See popularity of high flow skid steers and thier implements.
John deere lawyers and bean counters would never approve.
Tim: If you could only choose one for your property trail maintenance would it be an out front mower like the brush tiger or the limb saw and a pto brush hog? Thanks. Wayne
Tim, great video and this is exactly the kind of content I’m looking for!
You are looking very impressive on the operation of the backhoe!
So how would this work for a BX
Does a skid steer post hole digger work with the increased flow?
Not available for the BX. Sorry.
Good stuff I like the thinking outside the box. I would like the smoother operation for sure!!
Wonder if this could work on a JD 755 ?
Sounds nice, but can the structure of the tractor survive the added bending that can happen with the added power
the tool(s) can apply....There Has to be a limit, how far are you from that?
I bought the biggest pump from Kevin at Hydrosplus for my 1025r just for this limbsaw. Love the extra flow for bucket and grapple as well as able to run at lower RPM. I see in all your videos you mount the limbsaw on the pallet fork. Is that so you can move from side to side? Did you mount it just at the rear of pallet fork only? Or another mount up farther?
Thanks Tim for the 10% off and Kevin for a GREAT kit
mount it up the fork a ways. I like it on the forks so that I don't have to attach the receiver to the bucket. ...and for the extra length.
@@TractorTimewithTim THANK you, always surprised how helpful you are.
God Bless
I love my new pump!
Congratulations!
Looks like a great addition if out of warranty.
Hope you enjoyed your time in the state.
Visited Hot Springs. Enjoyed it.
@@TractorTimewithTim Hot Springs is a beautiful area, especially Garvan Gardens.
Is the drive line components that power the pump strong enough to handle the additional loads from the larger pump?
Good question. Well, the 8gpm pump is same as 2025r...which presumably uses same driveline...could be checked at jdparts.com.
Only the 9.5 gpm pump would be above this.
I would be highly surprised if there is a problem, but that is not an engineering answer.
That is incredible, with the limbsaw it's practically like a mini Jaraaf like the Asplundh guys use. Definitely put# my trimmerplus 8" to shame lol.
That would be a good log to turn into a small table top if you had access to saw mill. Just a thought?
Would this increase in flow hot rod your tiller??? Would you see any tangible improvement in speed and power for tilling?
No
@@TractorTimewithTim could this be used or modified to add extra flow for a front mount hydro snow blower?
Maybe, but likely can’t get enough flow to drive that large of a hydraulic motor.
This a great idea 💡!! Tim, Deere should hire you, for product development 👏
With the enhanced flow you could put larger cylinders on the loader lift function and increase the lift capacity without increasing the pressure and still maybe get reasonable response speed.
True. You could also rip apart your loader frame. Better do some engineering.
@@PatrickKQ4HBD Been doing it my whole life and I have a masters degree in mechanical engineering.
Master Tim just so you know this (not picking on your statement at all) my TYM T264 is a sub compact and has a hydraulic oil cooler (no HST fan at all). The recently announced sucessor to the T264, the T25, will have a hydaulic oil cooler as well. 🙂
Thank you good sir for the wonderful videos as always!
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Very cool. But how about for those Orange Tractors?
You'll have to find a creative engineer type to design a solution for the orange tractors. When you do, let me know...we'll show it on our channel!
I really don’t see any problems with it long as the cooler can handle the higher volume
It absolutely can, but even so, Kevin has an awesome solution called the Hydrosplus Cooler+ that keeps the hydraulic fluid nice and cool no matter how hard you run it. The Cooler+ absolutely dwarfs the stock cooler and makes it look like a toy in contrast.
Very nice! Thanks Tim! I had a BX with the plastic fan on the input shaft. When working it hard the transmission case would get so hot you could barely touch it. When doing comparable work with the 1025R, the transmission case gets warm but never hot. Not very scientific but from my experience the Deere hydraulic system runs much lower temperature when doing the same job. It is a more efficient way to control oil temperature. I seriously doubt this system will cause any overheating issues. Great design! I agree with others. Bet we see this improvement on the next 1025R.
Tim, I would have liked to see you demonstrate the maximum speed various motions could be performed at and also compare stock speeds to upgraded speeds. Where you moving the backhoe as quickly as it would move during the video?
Some other commenters mentioned that the hydraulic cooler is only on the return circuit for the steering so this substantially reduces the proportional amount going through the cooling circuit. Is that correct?
I'm a bit surprised to hear that (if correct) because the 1025R's system would likely produce the most heat when the tractor is being worked hard towing a field prepping implement like a plow or disk. Those hydrostatic drives can produce a lot of heat depending on the design and what speed is being asked for.
First, hydrosplus has a direct comparison video on his page.
Yes, moving backhoe at max speeds.
Not sure about where hydraulic cooler fits in, but it doesn’t really matter.
If flow is lower through the cooler, it will cool that oil more. The cooled oil will mix back in with the non cooled oil….where it comes to equilibrium.
Another viewer has done some more heat testing. We have not yet published the results, but he found very little increase in temps over long runs even in 90 plus degree heat. Maybe 3 degrees hotter.
@@TractorTimewithTim thanks for the prompt reply and for all of the awesome videos. I just bought a 2018 1025R TLB and hope to receive it next week, (subject to it being in excellent condition and me not backing out). I've been spending many hours researching what sort of implements and/or upgrades I plan to get.
These subcompact tractors are so hard to findI these days in my end of the world that I ended up buying it sight unseen through a large dealer with locations all over the country.
It is crazy but I've tried to buy 3 other 1025Rs and each one sold before I had a chance to inspect it and put in an offer. I also did put in an offer with one more, a 3 hour drive away, but it too sold before the owner got back to me.
The only ones local to me are asking about the same price I can buy one brand new for. Some are rather old too, like 2014s...
@@Slider68 new ones are coming available again. Supply of the 1025r’s seems to be recovering. 2 weeks now to get a new one at my dealer. The other local dealer here has 3 or 4 sitting on the lot.
@@TractorTimewithTim I wonder when things will improve here in Canada. My local dealer told me last week that his last new one he sold "only" took 6 weeks to arrive and that he should be able to get us a new one in slightly under 2 months.
I also called around a few weeks ago to dealers up to 750 miles away and none had any 1025R's in stock and all told me 2 months or more to order one. Many of them implied that was fast so I assumed either they had been harder to get recently or they normally take longer than 2 months.
You called around a few weeks ago :-) by now it would be here! :-)
Very cool! Does the size of the hydraulic fittings or pipes become the limiting factor with the upgraded pump?
All the fittings and hoses on the 1 series are at least 3/8. 3/8 will flow ~10 GPM, so in theory the 2 circuits (steering and implement) could have a total flow of 20 GPM, but the pump is connected to the flow divider by a 1/2 tube, which can flow ~16 GPM, so that would technically be the weak point. All this said, there are varying opinions across the industry on what should and can be done, but that breaks into nerdy areas like laminar flow and nomographs. I don't plan to test anything more than about 12-13 gpms.
Hey Kevin @hydrosplus, I know you’ve answered a similar question of mine about the 1/4” quick connects being able to handle more flow than some specify a little while back, but with the Summit front third function kits, for example, which use 1/4” hydraulic hoses and quick connects, is there any trouble running the Limbsaw through those 1/4” hoses and quick connects at all? I noticed that limbsaw says to use at least 3/8” hoses, but I have a Summit diverter up front with 1/4” hoses, and it seems like it has plenty of flow for the Limbsaw. Do you see any concerns with that kind of setup and/or is that the same kind of setup you used here? This is probably one of my favorite videos yet, because it shows what your Hydrosplus kits let people do with their 1025R machines that could never happen with the sluggish stock hydraulics. Thanks again for your game-changing solutions!
Looks like a good way to get more flow. Will this kit work on the older 1025r or just the newer generation? Great video. Thanks Tim.
Will work on the older ones.
very interesting, thank you for the information.
I have always thought Deere and Kubota have restricted the abilities of these tractors because the buyers are first time equipment operators. I struggled when I would go from a Deere 310 to a BX I couldn't achieve the results do to flow. With this modification Deere should look into this as a industrial 1025R paint it Yellow and Black. This looks like it is puting the backhoe on par with a 1ton mini ex. I think you should ask the CFO for funding.
The hydraulic side is just a matter of managing heat. My main concern is the drive train for whatever drives the larger pump.
As Kevin mentioned, the 8 GPM pump is the same as included in the 2025r...so the drivetrain already handles that one.
Only the 9.5gpm pump would be in question.
What about use of Chains in Winter? Will they clear the new Diverter?
I can't say for sure since I don't run chains, but there is about 2.5 inches between the tire and the nearest component of the kit. The flow divider definitely won't interfere, but the steering tube is the closest tot he tire so that it can clear the mower lift linkage (if equipped)
Very nifty stuff. Faster and smoother with the implements and now the "most loved" implement of all (PTO post hole digger) could maybe become a hydraulic and reversible auger so you can get it out of what you got it into. You just have to pay attention to the flow requirements of hydraulic augers as what I have seen this is on the minimum end of what they want. Maybe the optional big volume pump would cover that. Hope you get a chance to try these out at length.
So. Is this upgrade required in order to run the limbsaw? Or will it work with the stock pump?
You need the hydrosplus upgrade.
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@@vincentrose9060 just do it! The hydrosplus is easy to install. Just consider it part of the limbsaw investment.
How about a PTO pump ?! 3-point attachment pump.
Hey Tim . I'm glad you got to use this. I've been watching his progress on this kit and had mentioned talking to you about it. I know it increases flow. But capacity is the backhoes root busting capability yes?? Did you notice any added strength as you where digging?? Or was it the same?? Because I had asked him if it would help with bust out power. Thank you Tim
I discussed this in the video...but folks continue to ask. Perhaps I wasn’t clear enough?
This kit increases flow. Flow increases speed. Has no effect on power. Increasing pressure would increase the backhoe power/strength.
That's what I thought I heard you say. Just wanted clarity on that. Thank you.
Stock car racers use an additive to their cooling system that helps transfer the heat. Might be worth asking about.
Good info
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Will be interesting to see something similar for the Kubota LX
Someone will probably have to donate their LX tractor to this fellow for this to happen.
@@kdegraa I know the perfect guy
The Kubota BX needs something like this!
I was so hoping you were going to say it would give the 3 point and the FEL more lifting capacity. My biggest complaint about my 1025.
That would be pressure rather than flow.