Ducati Diavel V4 | First Ride
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- The Ducati Diavel has been completely redesigned for 2023 and its now using the Multi V4 engine. But the question is, is it any good?
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I test rode a used 2022 Diavel 1260S with 790 miles on it last month. I was not in the market to buy anything, I was just curious about the Ducati version of what a cruiser should be. Of course it was Ducati Red with the red frame, the stying is gorgeous; typical Italian. I took that bike home the next day. Fantastic machine. No buyer's remorse whatsoever. No regrets. A morning ride on it is far better than any caffeine drink to wake you up and get you ready for the day ahead.
That bike looks fantastic in red.
Let's be honest here. It's a hyper naked pretending to be a cruiser. Gorgeous and absolutely pointless. I need one!!! 😍
The Rocket and the Diavel are not just cruisers; they're imperial battlecruisers!
Top speed. Track. A 2 B. Nope
@@totalsellout2930
What does that mean? That made no sense to me.
Lol well said 👍
I have a Gen 1 Diavel, when mine went for a service last week, I managed to borrow a V4 Diavel for a few hours. Absolutely amazing machine. Totally different to the Gen 1.
Yes but not all the difference are improvements. I have a 2022 XDiavel and test rode the V4 also.
@@mikemccormick8115 agreed.. I do prefer my Gen 1 to the V4.
I had a Rocket and I really didn’t like the previous Diavel and this made me buy one. I definitely think it’s different and will likely appeal to varying tastes. I thought the previous generation was really out of proportion. This looks like a street fighter that’s gained weight over Covid. 😂 I love it.
I wasn't thinking about a Diavel but now I can't wait to ride one, damn you Chopsy 😊 Great review.
Not shared this with any other channel but i thought I would here.... This would be my dream bike, don't think I'll ever own one but I'm so incredibly grateful to just be able to ride at all... I've got a 2014 Kawasaki z800, it's not the fastest, best handling or even the most characterful bike... But it means the world to me because back in 2020 I almost lost my right leg and life in a skating accident. I used to compete at a very high level (state titles) but my leg snapped in 9 places, full bone on view, lost a litre of blood, compartment syndrome, infection and just had a knee reconstruction. But I'm so so grateful that I can swing my titanium leg over my Z800 and potter around riding the streets. My z800 is just a bike, cost me 5 grand but it saved my soul. Subscribed and like your channel though my friend.
Thanks Shane 👍 sounds like quite the journey you've been on 🙏
Currently £24,968 with a few basic options, i.e. heated grips, tank pad, bar end mirrors, fork slider, alarm, TPMS and navigation software. Madness!
Yes in Europe it's 30k Euros, that Akra exhaust is a skip because it's race pipe and not legal in many countries, crazy prices, wondering what would be Ducati Diavel V4 S price 😕
@@prajwalkashyap4741 I'd estimate the Diavel V4S with those same basic options included will be circa £28K. Comically overpriced!
I have 80 miles on mine. Buttery smooth brute. Amazing power and handling.
Hands down the most amazing bike I've ever ridden. If only I had the money to own one myself.... 😭
He hasn’t liked anything this good since the superduke and he brought one.
I have a 2022 XDiavel and test rode the V4. Comparing V2 vs V4;
Engine- visceral, punchy, jerky vs silky smooth, very refined, no vibration
Ride comfort- comfy vs ever so slightly more comfy
Performance (acceleration, handling, braking)- no perceivable difference in the real world.
Looks (subjective)- gorgeous, distinctively Diavel vs more muscular but more generic and average sport naked look except for rear tire area. In red, it looks like a jigsaw puzzle with 2/3 pieces gone. More plastic! Looks cheaper, less premium except wheels very nice. (Cool exhaust, turn signals, tail lights though.) Busy, complicated design but better in black. Overall, old Diavel better looking.
Tech- plenty vs too much, eg., cylinder deactivation (which cannot be unprogrammed) is stupid but Ducati lawyers want it. Boo! Just one more thing to fail then you have a 115hp bike instead of a 168hp one until you take it in. We don’t care about a few spoons of fuel savings. Just give me 4 cylinders all the time please!
In short, I’ll keep my current one regardless of cost. If they used the V4 and kept everything else the same, I’d get one.
Agree. Great used buy with an Akro exhaust. It’s not worth £29k with the pipe before ticking options.
At 57 when I can no longer do the Sportsbike (Panigale V2) this with a touring screen might be the next bike 🤟
Really thrilled that you liked it, chuffed for you mate. One day maybe I can try one??.....perhaps I could get that organised??....
Let me have a chat with my contacts... might be able to help you 😜👍
@@LambChopRides Please do!
Cracking review of a cracking bike.... That really looks the business, might have to get a run on one... Nice one chopsy as always you smashed it
I rode the Gen1 Diavel when it was first launched. It was the first Ducati I ever rode and I fell in love. The V4 must be immense! That or the Rocket would be the only 2 cruisers I'd consider. Happy with my Monster currently though. Get that bloody 'Tard sorted and have some Ducati fun! :D
New Akrapović exhaust system has all 4 outlets incorporated into it, but very neatly in line. Incredible design. Also 5K😅😢
Yebbut £5000!? The robbin' b'stards 🧐
@@NotNowCato1254 yes. Not necessary for such a high price
Great review!
Your enthusiasm comes accross by the bucket load.
Looks like you might have to wait until the S version comes out with adaptive suspension.
Shhhh he going bonkers poor h2 be parked out with 4 sale one carefull owner .never caned 😁
Stunning bike. The best of both worlds.
Hands down this is one of the most beautiful bikes I have ever seen. Booking myself in for a test ride.
The lack of gaps in the commentary says it all! I think you like it.
The phrase a Kid in a candy store reflects how I think you feel about this bike and truthfully I think i'm the same , what a machine it almost makes you re fall in love with motorbikes again .
Awesome bike, saw it at the Motorbeurs event in Utrecht. Such an impressive bike to see irl. Would love to see a 'more affordable' V2 version of it like the Streetfighter/Multi.
1260s :)
The more affordable V2 ones are available and plentiful used. If it’s a Ducati you don’t really need two more cylinders and they are more fun and visceral anyway.
You deserve a big discount when you buy one 😏I think all your subscribers will want one as well , Great videos Chopsy , you are getting very good at this game 👍👍
I feel all deserve ride 😂
Chopsy on 10% sales commission at this rate 💸 🤑
Diavel and Rocket now in completely different categories, Rocket is a 300kg torque monster Cruiser, Diavel is a big power but lighter Supernaked, in specialness it’s a close call but they play to different wants and needs, both cool bikes 😎 the massive weight difference really is the defining point. Really enjoyed my R3 as it so unique with this incredible sense of effortless power without need for revs, the Diavel I’d put more up against KTM SuperDukeGT or Tuono non factory perhaps, powerful but need to be ragged to go quick 🤔 & it’s not a cruiser. Big fan of the original hooligan Diavel, enjoyed the 1260S to ride but found uncomfortable after an hour’s riding. It was a shame Chopsy didn’t get to compare R3 with quick shifter. This v4 certainly looks more bulked up, not sure about the exhaust and the optional Akra is silly money. it’s funny Chopsy thinks the R3 is front ‘cruiser’ when most cruisers are forward pegs 😆 I do like the longer service intervals now and love V4s and own an OG 1985 Vmax. Still won’t roll on like a Rocket in higher gears (*nothing does) but undoubtedly faster bike and still torquier than everything else. I think a Chopsy nailed it with this V4, a GT, if Ducati have got the comfort right this time then it’s a home run 😎
Hi can’t wait. Pick up my bike next week. I will do the trackdays on Oultonpark . 🏍️💨
Well this was the review I have been waiting for. Especially after watching your rocket video. I have owned two diavels over the last 11 years. Absolutely love them. I have been looking at the 1260 diavel this year, but then ducati bought this out.
So happy that they have re introduced the rear folding rear foot pegs again on the V4.
So between the 1260 and the V4🤔. What I don't like is the stupid looking 4 tail pipes, also how hard to clean would them rear under seat light be🤔
However great reviews brother, thank you.
akra exhaust is £7000. video on yt about it.
£5037.00 to be precise.
That still an’t made it sound cheap though..
@@Andraki I watched the USA one. got my $ mixed up with £.
The rear seat honeycomb isn't all that hard to clean as the holes are chamfered, your cloth or sponge wipes the dirt out (most of the dirt goes between the two honeycombs anyway).
It’s a beautiful , wicked and Kool all wrapped up in one package , I definitely want it even being 67 years old thanks Chops for sharing the temptation
Spoiler alert: Diavel V4 / Rocket 3 comparison - Diavel wins - hands down
Can see it coming can’t you.. poor old Rocket has been chucked out of his future garage 😂
Wins in what category?
In acceleration. A bit. Probably in twisty roads.
But what the general style, finishing of details, perfect view from all sides, ability to ride all the day (and day after day), reliability...?
@@ichbinmartin I was just referring to Chopsy's and Greg's comparison's video they're planning to do. I realise that they're both excellent bikes, and that, beauty + everything else about a bike is personal preference. As it turns out, brilliant as they are, I'd still choose to buy 2 - 3 cheaper bikes, instead of either of these, but that's not what the comparison is all about. However, if I had to pick one of these, I'd pick the Rocket 3, as I think it's better looking, and I'd never be able to ride either to their true potential.
@@Jaffa1951 I am also looking forward to the comparison. on R3GT I have 20000km in almost one year. On DV4 I sat only on the motorcycle show, but it feels much smaller, different sitting position, so not for me. I don't care about riding on the edge like MotoGP or riding only 1000km yearly. I want motorcycle ready for riding in town and also long distances. R3GT is maybe not the best for both, but has a lot of something, what no other bike has.
@@ichbinmartinIt looks more like a naked sports bike, not a cruiser.
I wasn’t keen on the first version of the diavel, but this one is stunning.
Great review! The bike looks even better irl
You've sold it to me I think I will get that one in 5 years time when I can afford it , I am a fan of Ducati I can see you getting one , thanks again for an excellent review
I’ve always had a mild curiosity about the Diavel but have preferred the Multi. This latest version seems like a great improvement, I can’t wait to see one in person. Enjoyed your review, you obviously need to buy one. 😁
Some lovely lichen on the wall at the beginning, Chopsy! As for the bike, it's just a dream, Chopsy, just a dream...
that's a dream bike) i hope you'll get it for a long test. it's interesting too see your smooth emotions after a long test) ride safe!)
Love the way you talked your way into buying one Chopsy. Great review and looking forward to the comparison 👍
It feels lumpy down in the low RPMs because it switches to the front two cylinders only. This is for heat management and fuel savings.
Great content chops what about some 'Big Hunts' on big cruisers 👍this and the Rocket 3 are perfect bikes for you and Bruce!
Yes absolutely!! We need to sort that out don't we 👍
@@LambChopRides yes you do 😀@teapotone Bruce get on it loon!
Awesome bike...had gen 2 but had various issues with it so part chopped it for an enduro multi...loved the look then of the diavel and still do. This is another level again.
8:55 More than likely you're experiencing the bikes cylinder deactivation mode for emissions. The bike will run on 2 cylinders below certain RPM and load to save gas. Love the videos mate!
Thanks for the great review. Awesome machine, with art-work styling. I look forward to the Rocket 3 comparison Chopsy, especially as you were saying only in your last review that the Rocket ticks all the boxes - can't wait.
Cruiser bike should have a nice protective windscreen, would be interesting too see how it looks with the shield.
looks amazing but just cant get use to the placement of the number plate
Fantastic test ride, very well done! Shall I ask you where you were riding? Thanks.
Boaght a new Diaviel in 2013, awesome machine, stunning looking………but and a big but, the electrical faults, keyless fob packed in, fuel sender unit ditto, sensor on side stand ditto, HT leads faulty, this is on a new bike.
Kept the bike for 5 years, to be fair most of the faults were in the first 2 years, what killed it for me was when the indicator switch fell off and I had to ride it back to the Ducati dealership indicating right for 10 miles.
Had to pay to have it fixed, Ducati offered peanuts for a P/X, sold it to a multi franchise dealership for a better price.
You know you'll have to get one! Just do it, there's no need to resist.
Well just the small issue of 23k 🤣🤪
Is TMF still talking to you 🤔. Without seeing the comparison video, I'm saying Ducati. Nice one.
I don’t get the constant comparison with the Rocket 3. It’s all about bottom end torque, a massive 2500cc lump, heavy shaft drive, a ridiculously wide rear wheel, softer suspension, feet forward position on the GT and very comfy 2 up. It’s never pretended to be a back road blaster like a Diavel. The R3 is a Hinckley power cruiser not a Bologna Bullet. The black Diavel is £24k plus £5k for the exhaust . R3 with aftermarket is £23.5k.
My only negative comment about the new Diavel is that I prefer the trellis frame of the previous model. That trellis frame in red adds so much to the styling of the machine, pure Italian stying.
I want one,will wait 2 to 3 years and buy used.All good things come to he who waits🙏
Nice bike. I would like to have one. Only problem is dealer network. If my dealer goes out of business, the next closest is 200 miles away. I owned the previous generation R3 and liked it. I liked the the last Ducati i bought as well, but it had issues almost as soon as i put 200 miles on it. Now that is anecdotal and model specific i admit. I also believe the R3 would be way easier to service/repair in the absence of authorized dealer. Then there is the fact that a good tune on the R3 does wonders. Truth be told after all that i have said though; is that i had better stay away from my dealer, because there's a good chance i would throw caution to the wind and ride out on one of these.
I test rode one yesterday. Impressive. Cons: soooo much plastic. Handlebars seem too narrow and I felt my hands were slipping of the edges of the grips because of this. Foot controls are in a weird position. Especially the right side, I felt like I couldn't relax my right foot without pressing the brake pedal down. Exhaust looks cool, but sounds like a sewing machine. Everything else seemed fine. Loads of torque and HP.
I'm not really into these cruiser motorcycles although the Rocket 3 and the Diavel are something special......but that litalian styling on that Ducati is gorgeous.......Chops what are you doing to me.......I'm now looking at how I can convince myself to part with £20,000 plus......
Everytime I see my bank manager for a loan he's going to say......"you've seen another Chops video haven't you!" 😂😂
Great review again Chops , that's my Sunday morning viewing sorted. 👍😊
just bought this bike and on my way to pick it up the dealer called me and told me ducati issued a recall on a fuel clip...now I have to wait until thursday to pick it up! please pray for me! lol
Are you enjoying the bike ?
Now it’s got the grandtourismo engine that’s a game changer , and it looks incredible
That quad exhaust looks hideous to me. Looks like an afterthought. Otherwise, it seems like a great machine. Thanks for the review Chopsy!👍
Great review! Don’t worry about exclusivity, only about 1% of riders can afford this bike! 😉
@7:08. I recall when the original Diavel came out Ducati claimed it was the fastest accelerating Ducati ever because of the length and weight. Even faster than a 1198 at the time.
I'd like to see an iteration of this for an attempt at touring say with a wind screen and bags.
Beast of a bike love it
You and other RUclipsrs have convinced me this is the bike to get. I want an ‘all rounder’ the Streetfighter is close but for touring I don’t think it’d be great . To me the Diavel feels like a muscular SFV4. I’m also quite heavy as you can see from my profile pic (107kg) the SF just felt a little toyish (a demonic toy, but, a toy nonetheless)
I'm getting to the age where I'm starting to consider a cruiser. Lol. That's exactly where I'm at. When I ride my Triumph Sprint ST it's just such a pleasure. Comfortable arm and leg position and a comfortable seat. Then I get on my Ninja ZX14R with my body weight on my arms and wrist bent forward and legs a bit cramped. It's loud and fast as F. Love the blistering acceleration and speed. But do I really enjoy it more than the Sprint. At my age of 61. 🤷. This Ducati is now very much on my radar now with the V4 Fast as F and comfortable. Tempting for sure. I gotta try one now. Thanks Chopsy
I thought I was headed to old man cruiser mode at 60; and almost got a Diavel.....BUT I went with the Panigale v4S.
My final three choices were Rocket3, H2 SX and DV4. The winner was the DV4. I love it,part cruiser part sport bike. Has the speed,handling and comfort all in one. My Harley Breakout 114 didn’t even come close to this bike!
In my ideal world Ducati keeps the desmo valvetrain for the pure sports machines like the Panigale V4S, V4R, Streetfighter V4. Put the Granturismo engine in the base models, Monster, and a big Supersport bike.
A SuperSport 1200 with this engine would be incredible.
The bike is a beaut, a super cruiser. Class. Those riding shoes???
They are Furygan Go or something like that, link in the description 👍
Think you will be having to make room in the new garage soon Chopsy .👍😁 great review and one smart looking machine. Only thing I don't like is those rear wheel hugger type number plate things .! Looking forward to the comparison with the rocket .👍👍
Another good review Lamb Chop
Great review as always 👍👍
You’re my hero Lambie..😀
This bike is a "Hyper Muscle Cruiser GT". Looks so much better than a Gold Wing or a Rocket.
Why didn't they paint the front mudguard? reminds me of the 1.3L cheap escort in the 80's when you paid extra for the colour-coded bumpers. Akrapovic exhaust is £5037 plus fitting! Just to make bad points so you don't buy. It's a £30,000 bike with color-coding and Akrapovic.
Even after riding a v2 Xdiaval s.. I still have no idea what these bike are, (category wise) what mental machines they are though 😁😁
This is a masterpiece of a 2 wheel monster lml
Great review mr chops
Vid was awesome
Plus bike looks amazing,always liked those beasts 👍
Thanks Michael 👍
Chopsy you’ve already got your check book out 💰💰
I rode the v4 last year I had the afternoon on it courtesy of Ducati Manchester 👍it's very hard to fault a truly wonderful bike. And the 1260s it's predecessor ? Well I rode that too and I felt it was more a sense of occasion like only a V twin can be. And now on the market for around 13k . It's an interesting proposition but my hearts with a twin it goes like stink stops on a dime is 90 percent of the v4 fior nearly half the price. 👌👍🏍🇮🇹
Sell albeit reluctantly but buy the V4 Diavel. Spent a day with it and can’t fault it, not many have or can. MCN bike of the year 2023 I wager. In RED though !!!! Could be the only bike anyone will ever need.
Sounds like someone is in love and I don't blame you, I have a feeling lambchop will be purchasing a new bike soon. Expensive but so is an HD and you get so much more with the duck. Thanks for the test now I want one too😂
Beautiful machine Chops
Chop’s , reference the comment about being 51 and not wanting to buy a bike every year. I said exactly the same… At 62 , I have failed miserably, changing bikes regularly year on year. By the way, thanks to you, I have a test ride booked on the Diavel next Friday 😂😂 keep up the good work !
Haha I know, no hope for us 😄
Fantastic review
Thanks Ben 👍
@@LambChopRides 👍
Stunning bike 🥂❤️
Great review. I take it that you quite liked it 😀
Great review! It looks amazing.
Chopsy, you are, coincidentally, saying out loud all the things I'm thinking (at the age of nearly 48) in my own head.
I'm thinking of chopping in my Street triple 675 and MT09-SP in the next few years to just have one bike that I can keep for 10+ years, like I have with my Triumph.
This bike is more of a heavier, muscular naked bike than a cruiser, I would compare this more to a Z H2. When I rode the Xdiavel however, I got a bit of cruiser vibes but nothing from this bike. I would not buy this and say to people that I bought a cruiser, this is really a sport bike with a 240 rear tire, lets not kid our self.
The Rocket 3 with forward controls however, that bike really amazes me, and really feels like a cruiser. These bikes are sooo expensive though.
I am thinking of buying the Rocket 3 used later on when I am ready to move on to a cruiser. I would compare the Rocket 3 to the Xdiavel instead but maybe they do not have an Xdiavel V4 yet?
Nooo Chopsie fight that urge and ride the 690SMC like a teenager.
25 mins of Chopsie excitement and the bike is a star also
Stunning bike chops great review you said you could take it touring ? Keep up the great vids
Yes absolutely you could!
Chopsy is in love I think 😃😍
Buy one!!
Stop it chopsy …. Really tempted
Dam that's one fine bike.....❤❤❤
I was interested to see how this was (compared to the rocket) but I’m not sure I would class it in the cruiser category it looks more naked in its styling and as with so many modern bikes now the rear seat wasn’t a concern for the design team so I’m sure the wifey won’t like it and as nowadays my riding is more two up than solo I couldn’t warrant the money
I’ve yet to test the rocket with the wife so it may have the same issue with the seat but at least it has the back rest so I don’t leave her at the traffic lights 😅
Failing that it’s the gold wing which she loves but it would be nice to find something in the middle ground
Why don’t any manufacturers make fun interesting bikes that you can ride all day with the wife on the back
Nice review. What kind of gloves are you wearing in this video?
Knox Gloves, there is a link to them in the description 👍
Awesome bike! 👍🏼
It is nice to see your passion for the bike!
I saw it on motoshow. Rear view was good, suite nice. I like the design of exhaust. The right side is relatively ok, even I don't understand, why they didn't highlight the engine. The little red beret above the headlight looks ridiculous. But what I really don't like is the left side of the bike. It's gutted, like half an antelope being eaten by a lion. All the cables, the hoses, they look like guts... They could have hidden it under the covers. As I can see, it looks as new trend to make the motorcycle nice only from the left side.
New bike bike to the Chops stable 😁😁👍
An updated M109 would be nice against it... I know I'm daydreaming, but I wouldn't mind an H2 cruiser... Nice vid Mr Chops. Looking forward to that Rocket Vs Diavel video
Great vlog Chops. Just keep the GSXR and get one!
Great review chops. Would be good to see a shot of you riding it from the side of the road so I can understand leg positioning. Is that possible?
It's a beauty.