Why Barcelona and Real Madrid need each other

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  • Опубликовано: 24 дек 2024

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  • @patitoduck123
    @patitoduck123 Год назад +2058

    Florentino said it himself, a strong Barcelona is good for Madrid and La Liga. It’s been like this for the last 20 years. They might be rivals, but they need each other and make each other better. There’s a reason they’re almost always top 3 clubs in the world.

    • @vzero8612
      @vzero8612 Год назад +46

      Madrid is carrying Barca and la liga.

    • @adrienfut3574
      @adrienfut3574 Год назад +178

      @@vzero8612 lol.

    • @davidshatto7604
      @davidshatto7604 Год назад +261

      @@vzero8612 barca is leading the league by 8 points? Very confusing and bad take lol

    • @ANONYMOUS-gp9bo
      @ANONYMOUS-gp9bo Год назад +21

      @@davidshatto7604 meanwhile, rocking Europa.

    • @dude99844
      @dude99844 Год назад +106

      @@ANONYMOUS-gp9bo what does that say about la liga then 😂

  • @arthurahabwe1301
    @arthurahabwe1301 Год назад +654

    Damn. Florentino perez seems to have a lot of power and influence in Spain and European football. He seems to have influence not just in spanish football, but also in other sectors of the Spain.

    • @Vilamonjo
      @Vilamonjo Год назад +152

      Indeed. Florentino its no just Real Madrid president, he is a real state and construction entrepreneur, and has a lot of contracts with the Spanish goverment (not only on spain tho), so he has a lot of leverage with public and private sectors alike. He its quite "powerfull".

    • @ander4163
      @ander4163 Год назад +44

      Also he is the CEO or owner (I'm not sure)bof ACS the biggest construction company in the world

    • @CheGypter
      @CheGypter Год назад +21

      He has been able to alter the laws for eligibility for election at Madrid so that he is bascily the only one to be able to stand for election at the club

    • @oslonorway547
      @oslonorway547 Год назад +40

      @@CheGypter and the club is still doing great. Would rather be like Madrid, than what Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal and other EPL have become over the years, changing owners who eventually drag them into debt and other crises. Meanwhile playing for Madrid has become the dream for future ballon d'or players and they are unveiling futuristic stadium and training facilities, even though Perez is making money from building them.

    • @00dude3
      @00dude3 Год назад +15

      He's into "construction" aka organised crime

  • @giog3280
    @giog3280 Год назад +258

    The fans may hate each other, but the leadership of both clubs have always been very friendly with each other. It's called El Classico, but I've always called it ' The Spanish Old Firm.'

    • @westafoni
      @westafoni 7 месяцев назад

      That’s a great name for it 👏🏾

  • @rohit-w9z7y
    @rohit-w9z7y Год назад +1012

    Tebas himself is a big reason why the Spanish giants are still so strongly in favour of the Super League. His suddenly changing rules are hurting all the La Liga clubs financially. Here's a hilarious fact: In January f'ing BOURNEMOUTH was allowed to spend more money than the...here's the hilarious part... ENTIRETY OF LA LIGA. Football as a whole can't prosper like this.

    • @mhtv5959
      @mhtv5959 Год назад +205

      Not only that. Betis, Sevilla, Valencia are struggling to sign players or register them. LaLiga has highest number of cases of late registration, inflated Salary wage bill because of the laws in Spain.
      Tebas in October-November specifically changed laws to prevent Gavi's registration. He also did the same in around 2004 when Barcelona tried to promote Messi to the first team.
      Of all the clubs, he hates Barcelona and in an attempt to trouble them, he ultimately ruining the league.

    • @curtischarles5299
      @curtischarles5299 Год назад +127

      Tebas is a fool. He is the reason for the decline in teams . His so called financial fairplay has crippled la liga teams and now weaken them. Sevilla had to sell their stars . A team who was just in the champions league is now in relegation zone .simply because the salary cap is to low and they cant keep their stars. It's the same for barcelona he wants us to sell our high earning players to stay with the salary cap. What is that doing for la liga teams? Making them sell their star players and cannot bring in any because they won't want to accept small salaries . So there is no balance. So now small epl teams will be able to give better salaries to these players .

    • @C2190
      @C2190 Год назад +38

      sounds more like a laliga problem more than a bournemouth problem, The reason a team in the PL can do that is because money is distributed equaling down the PL teams unlike Laliga but if barca and real wanna be greedy so they can also take the consequences of that

    • @lembeed6155
      @lembeed6155 Год назад +46

      @@C2190 equally?🤣🤣🤣🤣. you know nothing about football finances

    • @C2190
      @C2190 Год назад +10

      @@lembeed6155 ah yes a brudda from the youtube comments knows more tho

  • @tonyx8862
    @tonyx8862 Год назад +77

    The one thing madrid/Barcelona as well as their fans can agree is that they are the two biggest clubs in the world and should both be at the top of not only Spanish but world Futbol

  • @justadey_
    @justadey_ Год назад +348

    It is called "Louis-Schmeling" paradox
    The general rule that monopoly is the "ideal market position of a firm" does not hold for professional sports
    "Sporting organizations need close competition if they are to be able to maximize their income. Sporting firms, require competitors to be successful: if Joe Louis had had no competitors, he would have had no one to fight and therefore no income"
    This is why Real Madrid needs a strong Barça and vice-versa.

    • @Someone25948
      @Someone25948 Год назад +1

      Did you write this comment elsewhere as well or did you copy this?

    • @ian234234234
      @ian234234234 Год назад +4

      strong competition = only 1 club lol la liga joke

    • @ahmedelakrab
      @ahmedelakrab Год назад

      .

    • @justadey_
      @justadey_ Год назад +3

      @@Someone25948 wiki has an abbreviated version.follow that

    • @Eoin1
      @Eoin1 Год назад +5

      That's a very good point. Reminds me of Alex Ferguson always being in favour of the TV money being split evenly between all premier league teams compared to how it was done in Spain. He recognized the value of a competitive league.

  • @mcgrudo
    @mcgrudo Год назад +224

    Although it's a much lower level of football the same could be said about Celtic and Rangers. The passion behind El Clásico/Old Firm is ferocious. Catalan against Castilian, Gael against Briton. There are many more footballing rivalries but none stand out so viscerally tribal in nature. The spectacle is tense even for a neutral observer and yet, beyond money, neither could exist without the other.

    • @sergegaash
      @sergegaash Год назад +14

      😂 man you trippin, i can tell you RM Barça rivalry is not like Celtic Rangers. Quite far from it.
      Most barça fans in Spain aren’t catalans.
      Real Madrid doesn’t represent Castilla, that only happens on some catalan’s eyes.
      This rivalry is quite new. Still in the 80s Real Madrid main rival was Atlético, not Barça.
      This isn’t something like the Old Firm. Lol

    • @foltgameeing
      @foltgameeing Год назад +13

      @@sergegaash The Real-Barca rivalry is Francoist vs Revolutionaries. The independent-minded Catalans vs the Conservatives from Madrid. It's an age old rivalry with a lot of blood behind it. One could say it dates back to the Spanish Civil War itself with central authority challenging the right of minorities and at that time an actual armed conflict between not only the Falangists and Republicans but also the Catalan communists. The first thing Franco did was illegalize the Catalan language, illegalizing Catalan names and burning all their literature and even razing headstones of famous Catalan individuals. Franco was a cool guy.

    • @gontrandjojo9747
      @gontrandjojo9747 Год назад +2

      @@foltgameeing
      That's what Catalan independantists say today, sure Barcelona is a strong symbol of Catalan identity but it doesn't mean they were rivals with Real... Ath.Bilbao is also a strong symbol of Basque identity yet they don't have a rivalry with Real. The Barcelona/Real rivalry is something built by medias in the 1980/90s. The traditional rival of Real is Atletico Madrid, not Barcelona.

    • @mcgrudo
      @mcgrudo Год назад +1

      @@sergegaash "man you trippin" No u 👺

    • @foltgameeing
      @foltgameeing Год назад +1

      @@gontrandjojo9747 Are you Spanish by chance? Because this sounds like either an revisionist Spaniard or an ignorant foreigners answer. The word traditional in itself is relative but the way you use it is very broad or shall i say "relative". Very shortly or simply put, republicans all over Spain after the Civil War supported Barcelona. Opponents of said republicans, the conservatives and falangists etc. supported Real Madrid. It was a harmless way to rebel against supposed oppression. It wasn't so much the Catalans themselves but the non-conformists in the rest of Spain who created this rivalry. 2nd biggest city of Spain, in a traditionally hostile to the government region in an apparently dictatorial country. It was by all means a natural development, but a very real one. Denying it is not only folly, but idiocy. And Basques weren't even remotely as opposed to Franco as Catalans either were or was portrayed as by the republican/communist remnants.

  • @thechriscrowing
    @thechriscrowing Год назад +75

    It's the same in Scotland. The Old Firm have this visceral rivalry between the fans, but behind the scenes, they're both committed to making sure the rest of Scottish football never has a chance to become competitive.

    • @B88-h6n
      @B88-h6n Год назад

      xDDDDDDDD and so good at it

    • @gm2407
      @gm2407 Год назад +1

      It's even worse in Scotland. Celtic and Rangers have won every Premiership title since the 1985/86 season. But in LaLiga Barca and Real have not won every league title between them for that same period. Althletico Madrid (3), Valencia (2) and Deportivo La Caruna (1) have won the league.
      *Note arbitray year selected to start from, as in the early 80s Scotland had Dundee United and Aberdeen win league titles and Spain had Althletico Bilbao win league titles.
      But I think that 37 consecutive seasons is a long time to dominate a competition between two clubs and it will be 38 this season as Celtic and Rangers are comfortably ahead of the next place team.

    • @michaelreddington1234
      @michaelreddington1234 Год назад +1

      An absolutely insane comment at the end there…’Both committed to making sure the rest of Scottish Football never has a chance to become competitive?’ Celtic and Rangers have been the dominant clubs in Scotland for years primarily down to one major reason, size of fanbases. There are some great clubs with brilliant history in Scotland but they’ve never been able to capitalise on the success they’ve had down the years primarily because they don’t have the size of fanbases Celtic and Rangers do. You’re also dreaming if you think Douglas Park & Dermot Desmond are sitting around with a dram plotting the down fall of the other clubs 😂

  • @riddlerecsful
    @riddlerecsful Год назад +105

    Joker to Batman " what ever would I do without you?"
    Every hero needs a villain

    • @santiagoch2451
      @santiagoch2451 Год назад +3

      They are both villians in european football

    • @DBrealmadrid9606
      @DBrealmadrid9606 Год назад +3

      @@santiagoch2451 Agreed. Shame on these elite clubs. Football will change forever

  • @paym4n
    @paym4n Год назад +126

    I, as a Culer, rather see a strong RM team to make El Classicos interesting and intense rather than a shabby side. And the league needs it too.

    • @paym4n
      @paym4n Год назад +11

      @Madrid Studio For real. I want to see Valencia back to its former glory too. It'd benefit the league immensly.

    • @TheSpartanS196
      @TheSpartanS196 Год назад +2

      If it was just sport, I'd agree. Sadly the history of RM and FCB is intertwined in politics, with FCB being an icon of Catalonian republicanism vs the spanish conservatism (Franchism first, monarchism then) embodied by Real Madrid, which is everything I could possibly loathe. If I could snap my fingers and make RM disappear, I would. I'd rather have an healthy, sports-only rivalry with Atletico. RM is just pure, deep hatred to me

    • @pozsoz
      @pozsoz Год назад

      yea La Liga needs it because it's quite a boring league to watch, other than those 2 clásicos a year (sometimes).

    • @oslonorway547
      @oslonorway547 Год назад

      @@TheSpartanS196 Catalonia Republicanism? That doesn't exist, unless you mean Catalonian nationalism which is another word for socialism. The Catalans have always been left leaning, even outright communists. The only party there with Republic in its name is even called _Esquerra Republicana de Catalunya_ meaning leftist Republicans. .... Lots of emotional arguments in your comment though. But of course, that's understandable given the political stance.

    • @onlythejugg
      @onlythejugg Год назад +2

      @@oslonorway547 i think he just means republicanism in the sense of catalonia being a republic (which it is)

  • @osemoboraruya6898
    @osemoboraruya6898 Год назад +44

    Even the clásico might ironically be another form of alliance from the teams. They present to be fierce enemies by the media, this attracts more views for the game and they make more money together from advertisers and fans.

  • @zardsire2012
    @zardsire2012 Год назад +291

    I have always thought that the idea of a Super League is less black and white than the English media make it out to be. On the one hand it supports the wealthy clubs that dominate the game, but it also makes the top flight scene of clubs less Premier League focused, as those are the teams people invest in due to the marketability. I am still anti-super League but I get Barça and Madrid’s perspectives.

    • @vzero8612
      @vzero8612 Год назад

      English media is JEALOUS of losing the spotlight.

    • @CristianmrWuno
      @CristianmrWuno Год назад +58

      Funny how English fans went from football for the fans and 50+1 system to football for the sheiks and fallacies like validating 1B in revenues just because of TV rights despite of not even winning the audi cup in less than 8 months😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @navis462
      @navis462 Год назад +11

      So even after having said something reasonable, by having used logic, you are still opposed to it? 😂 You said it yourself, all top teams would have more revenue not just the English league. So unless you are just pro premiere league then here’s an example of a 🐑. The new plan that was imposed also makes it an open tournament with funds being distributed down to grass roots team.

    • @vzero8612
      @vzero8612 Год назад

      @@CristianmrWuno they talk about morals all day meanwhile twerking fro Yanks and Habib's lmao. English broke people are desperate for sugar daddies lmao.

    • @grimaffiliations3671
      @grimaffiliations3671 Год назад +32

      The prem is a super league. It would be foolish for them to support a threat to their edge. Madrid and Barca didn't mind using their money to dominate their own leagues for so long, they shouldn't be complaining now

  • @Taurean_SAMA
    @Taurean_SAMA Год назад +11

    My heart is with Barça and i wouldn't want a rival other than Real Madrid.

  • @rishabhpandey6631
    @rishabhpandey6631 Год назад +49

    The day Manchester City got more revenue than Madrid and Barcelona then you must know something is wrong

    • @HAA30098
      @HAA30098 Год назад

      Fake income from city the owners creating there own businesses as a front

  • @CristianmrWuno
    @CristianmrWuno Год назад +66

    You could've explained what is the CVC. And why that's the reason these clubs think they can make that much revenue in 4 seasons rather than selling their souls for 40...

    • @dh-st5sz
      @dh-st5sz Год назад +1

      exactly, this way it makes it seem like the CVC is an good deal actually

    • @jackfrost7943
      @jackfrost7943 Год назад +25

      @@dh-st5sz The CVC is a very bad deal.
      It hasn't brought any improvement.

    • @dh-st5sz
      @dh-st5sz Год назад +6

      @@jackfrost7943 Exactly. I was saying that the video makes it look like the CVC deal is good when it's not, and its completely reasonable that real and barca are against it

    • @morlath4767
      @morlath4767 Год назад +1

      I'd say the reason they didn't is because Tifo seems to be obsessed with keeping the length of their videos down. At least these ones. They seem to be wanting to move more fully into the Tifo IRL style and leave this channel/method of videos behind.

  • @wei.2241
    @wei.2241 Год назад +10

    As a Madrid fan I find it quite funny that in Perez's attempt to keep all the power and riches to Madrid and Barcelona he's hurt La Liga and this Madrid in the crossfire, the league had a golden opportunity to capitalise and become a massive global brand like the premier league when Messi and Ronaldo were both playing for Madrid and Barcelona and was most likely the most "famous" time in la liga's recent history but instead of distributing wealth and strengthening the overall league making a more competitive environment like the PL he tried to hold onto it all himself which as we now see resulted in La Liga's dry period with majority of the worlds attention turning to the English league which in itself IS is a super league.
    Pere'z attempts to create a super league to generate more money could have been succeeded "although most likely with not as much as an actual super league would generate" if he just allowed the league and competition to grow but instead he forcefully held it back and thus Madrid along with it.

    • @TD_pb
      @TD_pb Год назад

      I agree with you. Ferguson at United was famous for ensuring money made in the premier league during his title winning years was shared equally. Now, that affected United's chances of defeating the Glazers takeover battle as the club didn't have the cash to fight them, but it benefitted the whole league, even the lower leagues.

    • @Fakeprophets
      @Fakeprophets Год назад

      They are doing this to force la liga and UCL to make game plan easier

  • @richardalex4516
    @richardalex4516 Год назад +12

    If either one collapses, you will see a one team league like Bundesliga. I like the German league but there is little chance of pushing aside Bayern towards the end of the season.
    The Classic must remain heated and competitive

  • @simokojamesphiri7924
    @simokojamesphiri7924 Год назад +15

    Florentino Perez will always do what's best for business and right now El Clasicos that boast the games best stars is what is clearly best for business.
    On a separate super league note, I feel that as long as the premier league continues to exist in it's current state i.e with clubs self regulating, then the idea of a Super League will never go away, especially when UEFA is itself a very shady organization.

  • @alecselcroco
    @alecselcroco Год назад +82

    Quite ironic how the english are against the super league while their own league is becoming the real superleague. Just compare the money spent in trasnfers in the premier with the other european leagues over the last years and you'll see the difference. A single player that plays well for his team outside england it's instantly bought by a low-mid-table PL team.

    • @wackiechan300
      @wackiechan300 Год назад +24

      It's not ironic, it's completely in their interest. They know they already are a super league and won't switch unless barca/madrid attract enough historic clubs to their league to pull eyes away from the PL.

    • @divanshu5039
      @divanshu5039 Год назад +5

      yep totally agree with you. It's the main reason of Premiere League success.

    • @rudymurillo9334
      @rudymurillo9334 Год назад +28

      The only reason the PL is considered a super league is because they’re actually a profitable business model. Real and Barcelona have been sinking La Liga for a long time. Meanwhile PL clubs are willing to share TV revenue so everyone profits and everyone has a chance to build a title winning team.

    • @mhtv5959
      @mhtv5959 Год назад +1

      Well why would they be. They love being in centre of attention. They love using the phrase "best league itw". Ofc they won't recognise that.

    • @alecselcroco
      @alecselcroco Год назад +10

      @@rudymurillo9334 Please elaborate on how Barcelona and Real Madrid are sinking la Liga while being the two most important teams that apport the most revenue to the league with their TV rights. Moreover, it is obvious that the prem gains more revenue with their TV rights because more people watch the PL due to it's major intensity and game dynamics in contrast to the tactical, well defended and slower games of La Liga which may be more unappealing to the regular sports fan, thus not attracting as much viewers which results in less money from TV rights. With this argument you could then argue that it is fair for the prem to have this much money in comparison to the spanish league, but the spanish league has a much bigger problem with its President who doesn't know how to handle the league he presides.

  • @lukaskirchner9565
    @lukaskirchner9565 Год назад +10

    They also need each other for el clasico, success and appreciation in common. If one of the clubs would not be in la liga, the league would not be competitive anymore. No matter what the other club would win nationally and internationally.
    Look at bayern, they are the second most sucessfull club on this planet but they dont get and never got the appreciation for their success. Just because bundesliga isnt that competitive.

    • @jackfrost7943
      @jackfrost7943 Год назад

      2nd most successful?...that's false.

  • @jarveyjaguar4395
    @jarveyjaguar4395 Год назад +3

    Competition between clubs is like competition between players, each players is forced to bring his best on the pitch and if he fails to do so the other player might surpass him and take his position on the field and he will find himself on the bench or sold.

  • @kroosbah3812
    @kroosbah3812 Год назад +5

    Rivals not enemies 💯🤝

  • @ismaelbandekhodaeidiaz3407
    @ismaelbandekhodaeidiaz3407 Год назад +56

    I became a Barca supporter in the late 90s early 2000s because of the club's values. Back then, we stood for solidarity, equality, democracy and freedom of expression. We were even the last major club in Europe to have a commercial shirt sponsor. We were everything that Madrid wasn't and that's what made us proud to support this club regardless of whether we won or lost. But these past few years we've lost our soul. It alway was a business but now it seems like it's just that a nothing more. This hurts a lot. I want my old club back.

    • @mhtv5959
      @mhtv5959 Год назад +36

      It was all good back then. But now the club can't survive and more importantly, compete with Financial backing of State owned clubs. It is necessary to adapt to remain relevant.

    • @NineTMinutes
      @NineTMinutes Год назад +26

      i think you didnt grow up along with time then. if your old barca is to be bought back like u said without sponsors and demanding equality . it won't even take more than two years for the club to be on ossasuna level. Both on and off the pitch. Thats the reality.

    • @Johan-bm8ym
      @Johan-bm8ym Год назад +3

      Then how would you compete with the clubs which are backed by rich club owners and oil money?

    • @daniaaal
      @daniaaal Год назад +10

      The old Barca wouldnt be able to survive in an environment full of American-billionare/Arab state-backed clubs of today

    • @Kushagra.j
      @Kushagra.j Год назад +3

      Pls stop watching football then

  • @DabDabGoose
    @DabDabGoose Год назад +13

    it's True La Liga is like if in Bundesliga, Bayern had an equal rival that alone would make a big difference in that league.

    • @masecaccm8372
      @masecaccm8372 Год назад +4

      they did the opposite by snatching Dortmund's best players to get stronger, although they did save them when they were broke

    • @gontrandjojo9747
      @gontrandjojo9747 Год назад

      @@masecaccm8372
      They saved their acamedy, not their "rival" XD. Just like a farmer calls the vet for his cow so he can continue to milk it.

  • @Viewer41
    @Viewer41 Год назад +79

    I thought it was obvious?🤷‍♂️
    They need the competition.
    Celtic suffered without Rangers. 🥱
    Bayern suffer with no competition.🥱
    PSG suffer with no competition. 🥱
    Juventus suffered for like 10 years when they won it every year 🥱
    The main reason the Premier League is the best in the world is because you have multiple strong teams, not just 1 or 2.

    • @sugarkookiewithsometae4245
      @sugarkookiewithsometae4245 Год назад +60

      Yeah, Man City and one other. There hasnt been a 3 horse race in the Prem in over a decade.

    • @gyorkshire257
      @gyorkshire257 Год назад +2

      @@sugarkookiewithsometae4245 Yeah, but it's not always been the same two teams. That's why Spanish and Scottish football are so unattractive to viewers.

    • @ken81616
      @ken81616 Год назад +35

      No, the main reason premier league is the best league for now is because every team in there can spend 100 millions in one transfer window.

    • @vishnu_kr_madappally
      @vishnu_kr_madappally Год назад +26

      In the last 5 years, there are 3 different champions in la liga, where as premiere league is won 4 times by city itself! You talk about the BEST LEAGUE ! 🤣

    • @jimabrahamguillaume3301
      @jimabrahamguillaume3301 Год назад +14

      @@vishnu_kr_madappally 2 of the CL winners from the last 4 years are from prem, 2 of whom didn't even win the league. That tells something.

  • @yasht7387
    @yasht7387 Год назад +3

    They’ve also allied each other and dominated the European competition for nearly two decades

  • @hraballah6053
    @hraballah6053 Год назад +15

    This is quite informative and needs wider insight on the ongoings behind the two clubs

  • @cheangizzz
    @cheangizzz Год назад +7

    Joker saying "We need each other!" to Batman

  • @swarajtiwari789
    @swarajtiwari789 Год назад +6

    that was probably the best video you guys have ever produced, or maybe i am just high, but no really, i was v good

  • @CharleyOlivesss
    @CharleyOlivesss Год назад +7

    Tebas is the worst he has been so bad for Spain the rule changes has really ruined both teams to actually compete with the Premier League I get why they want the Super League, I think both clubs breaking away from La Liga & possibly heading to let's say Ligue 1 would be wonders for France but it's just a crazy thought

  • @Evemeister12
    @Evemeister12 Год назад +3

    Much the same with Celtic and Rangers in Scotland. They're called the old firm for a good reason.

  • @farhanrahman27
    @farhanrahman27 Год назад +4

    They are basically The Batman and Joker of football.

  • @PitchforkStudios
    @PitchforkStudios Год назад +5

    Rivals not enemies

  • @teejay9881
    @teejay9881 Год назад +2

    These animations are brilliant

  • @MrFrunk1
    @MrFrunk1 Год назад +9

    "Every hero needs a villain".
    Also... We good with just The Bundesliga.

  • @showtimeblc
    @showtimeblc 7 месяцев назад +1

    Florentino is the godfather of football 😂
    Love you presi

  • @iceman4660
    @iceman4660 Год назад +43

    The Super League is already here. It's called the EPL

    • @DopeBoyFaze
      @DopeBoyFaze Год назад +9

      Yes in the bank not on the pitch

    • @iceman4660
      @iceman4660 Год назад

      @@DopeBoyFaze it is also on the pitch. Compared to all the other leagues it is more competitive and has more upsets. In addition the grounds are always full which makes for a better viewing spectacle.
      I agree that EPL may be lacking on the technical front but most fans are not bothered by that.

    • @DopeBoyFaze
      @DopeBoyFaze Год назад

      @@iceman4660 okayy serie a is more competitive as there are literally have 7 title contenders(the fact that napoli is so clear is proof) bundesliga and aserie a have way better atmospheres and more passionate fans and are you even a football fan if technical quality isnt a priority epl is a gimmick so like arcade football everything fast everything money transfer periods are a whole spectacle splashing money running fast no wonder the league is dominated by a team that plays like a la liga team(man city)...even arsenal plays like a la liga team. all you need to do to win in epl is play like a la liga team only problem is yould have to sell most english players to do that and homeggrown quotas wont allow that

  • @andrewnotgonnatellya7019
    @andrewnotgonnatellya7019 Год назад +3

    A rivalry needs two

  • @factualanimation
    @factualanimation Год назад +13

    Real Madrid and Barcelona are selfish, they do not want the revenues to be divided equally among all the clubs in laliga, and this makes the other clubs unable to compete with the 2 giants or with other clubs outside Spain say, the premier league. The Spanish league becomes unattractive, and end up making less money. There is no way the 2 clubs will survive if this trend continues because depending on the UCL is just not enough. They will be unable to attract big name players or keep their young and exciting talents, who will prefer to move to other leagues.

    • @CristianmrWuno
      @CristianmrWuno Год назад +13

      Not true. They have all the right to ask for the money they produce, its not their fault that La Liga doesn't protect their own teams like Sevilla, Valencia, Deportivo, Malaga who have been brought down due to the lack of attention of La Liga, its regulations and its bad owners and presidents

    • @messi1513
      @messi1513 Год назад +8

      is the La liga revenue earned equally from all clubs, or does it come mostly from Barca and Madrid ? If it's not earned equally, why should it be divided equally

    • @Sashi_60
      @Sashi_60 Год назад +5

      @@messi1513 This is exactly why laliga will never be competitive with the premier league

    • @u808
      @u808 Год назад +7

      @@Sashi_60 ym "as"?, Real Madrid destroyed your favorite English clubs just last season

    • @tedytedy5598
      @tedytedy5598 Год назад +3

      @@Sashi_60 manchester city won 4 times in 5 years. Its boring you know

  • @Izombiestunz
    @Izombiestunz Год назад +2

    I want this guy to read me bedtime stories

  • @zxcxzxc
    @zxcxzxc Год назад +2

    It's already a two team league, one without another would make it incredibly dull

  • @bukhosim2829
    @bukhosim2829 Год назад +2

    Funny how both players in the thumbnail are former Bayern players.

    • @JB-kd9wg
      @JB-kd9wg Год назад +1

      That was the intention Bukho

    • @bukhosim2829
      @bukhosim2829 Год назад

      @@JB-kd9wg To what end?

  • @diego_r585
    @diego_r585 Год назад +1

    SUPER LEAGUE MUST HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!

  • @ThePerks2010
    @ThePerks2010 Год назад +9

    "we've run these clubs into the ground thru our ineptitude and now we're going to spoil it for everyone"

    • @SG-ku6kw
      @SG-ku6kw Год назад

      Yes, their ineptitude is why Barcelona and Real Madrid have dominated Europe for the last 15 years

    • @Kushagra.j
      @Kushagra.j Год назад

      Another complete foolish moron who's fallen for English propoganda

  • @sambeg2
    @sambeg2 Год назад +2

    No rivalry bigger than these two.

    • @Haggis_67
      @Haggis_67 Год назад

      Celtic / Rangers is bigger

    • @eL-RaL
      @eL-RaL Год назад

      @@Haggis_67 how?

    • @podjun80
      @podjun80 Год назад

      ​@Thomas Lamb nobody outside Scotland cares though..

  • @adhnaanahmed5029
    @adhnaanahmed5029 Год назад +5

    As a madrid fan,competition is only thing which has driven real madrid and barca to top level football in this planet.
    Real and barca >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>other so called best clubs in pl and other leagues

  • @R4X90
    @R4X90 Год назад +3

    Tebas is the premier league’s cia

  • @jonathanprime1507
    @jonathanprime1507 Год назад +3

    Tebas is destroying La Liga

  • @rashdan1994
    @rashdan1994 Год назад +5

    Barcelona and Real Madrid has more value than the rest of 18 team combined

  • @PythagorasinBoots
    @PythagorasinBoots Год назад

    Coruscating splendiferousness

  • @antiChinazi
    @antiChinazi 4 месяца назад

    The Spanish national team needs both clubs for sure

  • @abstraqtphilosophy7357
    @abstraqtphilosophy7357 Год назад +1

    No wonder the el classico is a shadow of its former self in terms of viewership. I won't be surprised if a 12:30pm kickoff game between Newcastle vs Arsenal has more viewership than a 9pm el Classico game

  • @davidokwara1894
    @davidokwara1894 Год назад +1

    It is the nonsense alliance of convenience that has landed them in this financial mess. While big clubs elsewhere don't mind funding smaller clubs with more equitable revenue share, they carry a sense of entitlement that has hurt La Liga so bad. It is embarassing.

  • @kidpagronprimsank05
    @kidpagronprimsank05 Год назад +2

    Same can be said to Celtic and Rangers

  • @bez1196
    @bez1196 Год назад +1

    People complaining about TV revenue are missing an important point: TV revenue is one thing, oligarchs and Petro dollars are another. No amount of redistribution of tv revenue can make up for that. Also, LA Liga (the organization) has done a terrible job promoting the brand to the rest of the world. They had Messi and Ronaldo in their prime and still couldn't promote the product effectively. PL is light years ahead of La Liga as a brand. Real and Barca have valid reasons to not trust La Liga. They are the ones who promote their own brands while La Liga does nothing so as a result, Ppl tune in to watch Real and Barca not any other team thanks to poor promotion by La Liga.

  • @CamilaCastilhosM
    @CamilaCastilhosM Год назад +3

    Literally the only difference from England is that it's 2 clubs doing this instead of 6.

    • @gontrandjojo9747
      @gontrandjojo9747 Год назад +4

      2 clubs doing it instead of 6? Which club do you include in the 6? Spurs that didn't win a league title (or a title at all) for decades while Atletico (which is not one of these "2 clubs") won La Liga twice last decade?

    • @CamilaCastilhosM
      @CamilaCastilhosM Год назад +1

      @@gontrandjojo9747 yes. Because this is about business not sporting success.

  • @shreynaithani5073
    @shreynaithani5073 Год назад +6

    it's like a toxic relationship. they both beat and abuse each other but they also need each other.

  • @yuhin4694
    @yuhin4694 Год назад +1

    Barca can't cross the group stage in UCL and they want Super League 💀

  • @your_virtuoso
    @your_virtuoso Год назад

    very interesting
    one of your best videos

  • @fhdz5488
    @fhdz5488 Год назад +1

    Barcelona have less than half of the CL trophies Real Madrid have. They’re not competition in that tournament

  • @hmm7258
    @hmm7258 Год назад +5

    Before the video: Because their rivalisation makes them so popular+ more money

  • @MB-xq9hu
    @MB-xq9hu 7 месяцев назад

    Their greatness collectively would make them attractive to us in the US, and to others outside of Spain, that's why of course they need the other to be great, just not as great both clubs would say 😅

  • @musguera
    @musguera Год назад

    More strong clubs in a league make for a overall better league, which brings more attention to it. And RM and Barcelona staying top clubs, it is their interest. Look at PSG, 1 strong club in a league no one cares about, that has finantial impact.

  • @Delboy0
    @Delboy0 Год назад +12

    The truth Real and Barca are desperate for a Super League to save them financially because they are worried the Premier League will become the NBA of football and La Liga TV money is shrinking due to lack of interest in it. Super league by the way only had value when the English teams were involved because they drive global interest and TV contracts.

    • @DopeBoyFaze
      @DopeBoyFaze Год назад +4

      England is out of the EU if they make a super league you will not get new European talents they will make sure of that with restrictive legislation and insanely high prices

    • @outlawfly664
      @outlawfly664 Год назад +11

      Of please don't make us laugh, before European cup/CL was even founded which btw was founded by Real Madrid s president Santiago Bernabeu which at that time English clubs where reluctant to join. All other leagues, except English founded the Latin cup. They don't need the English teams sparky. Both Madrid and Barca already has the largest fanbase in the world, been the most successful for decades and had the most Balon D Or winners. To claim that English teams brings more value is laughable. Before the lucrative Sky - EPL deal and billionaires coming in, literally no one except Brtiz and Scandinavians where watching EPL.

  • @uncreative5766
    @uncreative5766 Год назад +2

    If City gets hit with penalties for their recent financial controversies, then fair play to the Super League for allowing a League Two size to compete with the proper big boys of Europe. That being said, in all seriousness, screw the Super League.

  • @robbieray9164
    @robbieray9164 Год назад

    They are our nemesis not our rivals

  • @Muradwalis92
    @Muradwalis92 Год назад

    Finally a video longer than 4 minutes

    • @eL-RaL
      @eL-RaL Год назад

      Why are his videos always short

    • @Muradwalis92
      @Muradwalis92 Год назад

      @@eL-RaL it’s like by time I’m getting into them they finish

  • @Kushagra.j
    @Kushagra.j Год назад +5

    As a Barca fan I've never hated them. A dislike for sure but that's just because if they win then by extension it means that we lose.
    But if i was never a (Culer) aka Barca fan then i would be a Madrid fan for sure.
    There are only 2 clubs that i absolutely detest and those are Man Utd & Bayern Munich.
    It's not all because of the on field performances as well because we regularly humiliate United as in the 2 UCL finals and quarters.

  • @thestrika
    @thestrika Год назад +1

    Everything was fine when they were on top but now they're not its a problem

  • @CaptainCreampie69
    @CaptainCreampie69 Год назад +2

    Because it would be more than a farmers league than it already is if there wasn’t a duopoly. Just look at France, Germany and Italy how traditionally only one team wins. Juventus won 9 years in a row, Bayern Munich 10 in a row and in France 8 of the last 10 years it was PSG. The quality of a league is in tight championship races as well as the points spread from top to bottom. Football needs a salary cap, like American sports.

  • @batman-qw1gf
    @batman-qw1gf Год назад

    it will always be like this, for a couple of year barcelona will do better than real madrid 2008-2015, and then real madrid will do better than barcelona 2016-2023 its this cat and mouse game that will just make each team push eachother, Its a reason spain is a powerhouse of European football all bc of 2 teams.

  • @darknebula455
    @darknebula455 Год назад +2

    Tebas is forcing Superleague to happen. & Barca & Real has enmity in field but outside that overall both clubs have been friendly to each other. Sports cant sustain & grow with monopoly. You need exciting matches, rivals to make more money.
    Both barca & Madrid is trying to replace Tebas in upcoming Laliga election probably cuz Tebas is Putting sanctions on laliga teams every week ( specially barca).
    PL is certainty the biggest League in World but Mardrid & Barca is the top most elite clubs & biggest in World ( united if you count top 3) -. Don't argue stupidly here. Its according to Forbes.
    Outside UK everywhere you go, even go time China & Russia people will say Barcelona / Real Madrid?
    This also says that These two teams have also discriminated against other teams in laliga. As a result Its not competitive as PL.
    So obviously they need Superleague to compete & maintain growth.
    No one is villains here. UK people is protesting cuz they dont want to lose dominance. But everything changes. US is also.not going to be no.1 for long.
    & i think Super League is inevitable.
    The simple difference is that PL teams accept to be owned by Saudi / Qatari Owners & make millions, buy all players but Public clubs like Barca / Madrid need Superleague cuz they are not sold to Oil billionaires.

    • @Witty-Hydra
      @Witty-Hydra Год назад

      First of all I agree with u almost in everything except when u said u epl is afraid to loose the dominance when they never dominated Europe. What they r afraid of is their competitive ability to come close to clubs like juve,napoli, Real Madrid, Barca,Ajax bc all they have now is the dominance of spending money.which by the way they don’t make. Am also glad that we will never sell our club for anything.

  • @animeshpati5525
    @animeshpati5525 Год назад +19

    Imagine a Barca vs Madrid Clasico in ucl final

    • @mimikolomamu
      @mimikolomamu Год назад +3

      You can imagine alone

    • @kabelobrian4540
      @kabelobrian4540 Год назад +5

      Barca needs to qualify for the ucl first bruv🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @Sasquatch10
      @Sasquatch10 Год назад +15

      It almost happened in 2013 but it turned out to Bayern vs Dortmund, who beat Barca & Madrid in the semi's, respectively.

    • @vishavjitsinghh
      @vishavjitsinghh Год назад +15

      @@Sasquatch10 also could've happened in 2015 but juve defeated madrid in the semis

    • @tanmaypandey7475
      @tanmaypandey7475 Год назад +3

      @@kabelobrian4540 when was the last time we didn't?

  • @kevinfofana6565
    @kevinfofana6565 Год назад

    The magic of the premier league is fair share of revenues among the participants, other leagues don’t bother with that and thus reduce the competition. How can one team win the league 10 consecutive times 🤦🏿‍♂️ and you expect to attract more fans to partake in that

  • @sushantbhandari7948
    @sushantbhandari7948 Год назад +23

    We all know about Manchester City's revenue. 😆😆

    • @42void42
      @42void42 Год назад +1

      Ajax, Dortmund, Benfica, Napoli etc Clubs are getting robbed every transfer window by doping clubs like Man City and PSG who sold their souls to billionaire, and PL dominated by German, Spainish, Italian, French, Portuguese, Dutch managers and players

  • @Famousstarsandexotics
    @Famousstarsandexotics Год назад

    The difference between BARCELONA VS RM rival is that they have real beef that goes way back

  • @outlawfly664
    @outlawfly664 Год назад +1

    Well duh. For the same reason Arnold Schwarzenegger needed Sylvester Stallone in their heydays

  • @nicholasphigginsalfaro7967
    @nicholasphigginsalfaro7967 Год назад +6

    Tebas just needs to be fired. He’s abysmal at his job and is single handedly deteriorating and possibly destroying La Liga. The fact that Bournemouth spent more in the January transfer window than the entirety of the Spanish league speaks volumes.

    • @Witty-Hydra
      @Witty-Hydra Год назад

      His earning’s is rediclouse as well.He collect 3 millions every year to make the league shittier. He is the most expensive president in a league. He doesn’t even deserve that money.

    • @stevenlannister184
      @stevenlannister184 Год назад +1

      It shows that the PL outearns La Liga. That's not Tebas' fault

    • @tyronelorenzovalentio3414
      @tyronelorenzovalentio3414 Год назад

      @@stevenlannister184 absolutely is

  • @divanshu5039
    @divanshu5039 Год назад +3

    I'm in favour of super league, and in some way UEFA is too. I mean look how they changed the rules of champions league for the upcoming season. That's a very drastic change. Pretty sure even they think something need to be changed and they might not agree with the changes super league present, but they do agree changes need to be made so they did their own version of it.

  • @kurniaarafah9373
    @kurniaarafah9373 Год назад +1

    i honestly thought this video will talking about both club rivalries make them stronger or something .......

  • @UitdenOosterhout
    @UitdenOosterhout Год назад

    La Liga has also said that If the Catalunya ever gets its wish to be Independent from Spain their will be massive consequences to Catalunyan Clubs, and they get their wish to be removed from the League.

  • @tosinfodeke5294
    @tosinfodeke5294 Год назад +1

    I don't understand ‘WHY’ are so many high profile players are refusing big opportunities to play in the prestigious Premier League and joining a Barça team who went trophyless last season and are going through some massive financial troubles.

    • @jordansamra9652
      @jordansamra9652 Год назад +3

      That is because
      1. History since 2003, young or at least soccer players under 30 years old had been growing with Barcelona and Real Madrid as the World's best soccer team with stars almost from every nation. Therefore their dream is to be part of them even if they are not currently the best
      2. For that reason currently at countries from Latam or most of europe is more famous Barcelona and Real Madrid than every premier league team

  • @segundolizardo6667
    @segundolizardo6667 Год назад

    Without Real Madrid and Barcelona la liga would be as know as the Scottish league , they provide 50 % of la liga revenue and probably more than 95 % of the interest outside Spain , it’s amazing that they are the reason why la liga clubs have any money form TV , no one in USA is wating to watch Elche vs Sevilla for example and they have to be fighting with Tebas for their rights ?

  • @Nextraker
    @Nextraker Год назад

    Manchester city doesn’t make that much money.

  • @Aaryan1017
    @Aaryan1017 Год назад

    Barca Madrid and Athletic Bilbao didn't sign the CVC deal
    The Spanish Court said a few weeks back that This same deal is a disgrace, it said "You can't give 40 million and take away 10% TV rights for 40 years" this shows that Both Madrid and Barca are doing just the right thing to bring an end to this awful reign of Tebas

  • @JustinSpakable
    @JustinSpakable Год назад

    That was insane. Very informative. Thank you!

  • @00dude3
    @00dude3 Год назад +4

    Barca and Real gobble up most of the la liga tv revenue while the PL is more equally shared. This results in massive growth for the PL while la liga stagnants. And now Real/Barca complain about the PLs money

    • @bez1196
      @bez1196 Год назад +7

      TV revenue is one thing, oligarchs and Petro dollars are another. No amount of redistribution of tv revenue can make up for that. Also, LA Liga (the organization) has done a terrible job promoting the brand to the rest of the world. They had Messi and Ronaldo in their prime and still couldn't promote the product effectively. PL is light years ahead of La Liga as a brand. Real and Barca have valid reasons to not trust La Liga. They are the ones who promote their own brands while La Liga does nothing so as a result, Ppl tune in to watch Real and Barca not any other team thanks to poor promotion by La Liga.

  • @evolutionzero1705
    @evolutionzero1705 Год назад

    Now do Bayern and psg please

  • @hmm7258
    @hmm7258 Год назад +12

    How does TIFO make so many videos ?!

  • @CoachGrashim7
    @CoachGrashim7 День назад

    The stronger Barcelona Gets, the better entertainment for el classicos viewers

  • @fredkaboom
    @fredkaboom Год назад

    Fix your pronunciation of Florentino Pérez. In Spanish, the accent over the letter means that syllable is emphasized. See also Álvaro Morata.

  • @Ronny00072
    @Ronny00072 Год назад

    Make a vdo on Union Berlin's Success

  • @Mikel57129
    @Mikel57129 Год назад +11

    La Liga will always struggle if they let barca and real get most of the money. Weak competition leads to worse product and less interest from the public. They dug their own graves and need to acknowledge their actions before the dirt surrounds their coffin

    • @716_ハディくん
      @716_ハディくん Год назад +13

      la liga always have better technical playstyle than epl

    • @Account.for.Comment
      @Account.for.Comment Год назад +1

      @@716_ハディくん hard work beat talent if talent don' t work hard. That' s how relegation contenders Everton beat league leader Arsenal last week. That' s why the EPL is more unpredictable.

    • @outlawfly664
      @outlawfly664 Год назад +6

      @@Account.for.Comment Still La liga destroys the EPL in every single European/international competition, never mind having the best players around with most Balon D Or winners and contenders. EPL is a joke, nothing more than a overhyped league and teams. Sky with their lucrative EPL deal is the only thing keeping it afloat. But spending the most money doesn't translate to success or quality. It's like claiming a typical Marvel movie is better than the Godather because it generate more money? The logic of EPL fans

    • @Mikel57129
      @Mikel57129 Год назад

      @@outlawfly664 that's only because wealth is concentrated with basically two teams in la Liga. I'm not saying real and barca are bad teams, I'm saying they are hurting their own league. Bayern does well in the champions league too but at the expense of their league rivals losing coaches and players to them. La Liga style is subjective so it's weird to try and bring that up. Teams like Brighton and Brentford are more interesting to watch than most la Liga teams

    • @outlawfly664
      @outlawfly664 Год назад +2

      @@Mikel57129 What you don't understand like most EPL fans is very fact that wealth is concentrated to Madrid and Barca because La liga leadership does a very poor job in promoting their league. They don't have the same leverage as EPL with lucrative TV deals extending over 10 billion with Sky which even is an English media outlet or any middlemen for that matter given the fact that EPL is already it's own super league, never mid the fact that major clubs in Spain are members owned which doesn't attract corrupt billionaires. If that was the case, both Madrid and Barca wouldn't have a hard time to distribute their wealth equally, but at this point it's relatively unfair to both of these clubs given the fact that they are the clubs who overwhelmingly brings the most audiences to the table, in fact both Real Madrid and Barca has the largest fanbase in the world, go figure.

  • @anonymous_1850
    @anonymous_1850 Год назад

    Lewandowski and Benzema just left the chat(for some reason)

  • @lenin17301560
    @lenin17301560 Год назад +1

    The Premier League has them going crazy 🤣

  • @zulfika_
    @zulfika_ Год назад

    is super league system is the same as euroleague?

  • @thomasweini9960
    @thomasweini9960 Год назад +2

    Ofc they are important for each other otherwise madrid would be like bayern and winning all the ucls

  • @shafinsadman3731
    @shafinsadman3731 Год назад

    tebas is a real madrid fan...and tebas is getting fu**ed up by perez...really perez is something else man...real madrid is lucky to have a president of his quality....always put the club over any player/manager/league-president...

  • @davec3974
    @davec3974 Год назад

    Given that English teams can't join a European Super League, what's the plan for non-English teams? Maybe turn all of their domestic leagues into a single league, then the top teams from that league and the Prem can compete in a modified version of the Champions League?

    • @masecaccm8372
      @masecaccm8372 Год назад +3

      Laporta is hinting the superleague will merge with UEFA. This suggest that what they are doing is more like extortion to get UEFA to do serious reform with FFP and a fair share in revenue for clubs, because UEFA keeps a huge part of the pie. UEFA is already doing reforms, but probably making it worse

  • @samuelsibanda9589
    @samuelsibanda9589 Год назад +17

    The Super League is inevitable.

    • @bensharp8757
      @bensharp8757 Год назад +5

      It's really not though. If a PL club joins they will be kicked out of the PL. It's a massive risk for any English clubs to join

    • @mimikolomamu
      @mimikolomamu Год назад +2

      @@bensharp8757 It will happen without the PL teams to rival the Premier League. I will still prefer PL over SL though

    • @vzero8612
      @vzero8612 Год назад +1

      @@bensharp8757 PL clubs aren't invited tho lmao. super league will be bigger and better with top clubs from Italy, Germany and Spain. Mark my words PL clubs would beg to join super league.

    • @eldios831
      @eldios831 Год назад

      @@vzero8612 hard to get germans in 50+1 rule...maybe laliga añd serie a should combine

    • @bensharp8757
      @bensharp8757 Год назад +2

      @@vzero8612 Do you honestly believe they haven't been invited? It might happen without them, but they have all been invited.
      I also don't believe that the German clubs will join. So you have 2 of the top 5 leagues not participating.