that scene meant a lot to me....seeing these two young men communicate about love....friendship....family.....isolation.....homophobia......but most importantly they danced together while the dad played Scottish music.....amazing.....thanks for the scene Louis...Ira
Very clever writing - how we shift from total sympathies for the displaced English boy, to the Scots boy at the end. Just a camera, in a set piece toilet, and two very good actors and an equilibrium of viewpoints- in the end.
I dated a guy for about a year & he got mad because I wouldn't come out to my parents. They were both born in the early 1920's & were Baptists, thus their generation was such that they didn't believe that a person could be born gay. He tried his best to show them what I was & even to the point about getting us shown on TV at the 1997 Pride in Atlanta. I told him he was crazy & if he was trying to destroy me, he was going in that direction. But the most ironic thing was that he never came right out & told his parents, who were born in the 1940's. He waited until they were both dead, before he came out to his family & friends. I never told my parents before they died out of respect, so some people might think I was cowardly, but growing up in the 1950's thru now, it was something to keep hidden & you would have been a fool to think otherwise.
I agree. Not everyone wants or needs to come out. I never said the words to my parents tho I did introduce them to my "friend". It didn't seem necessary, and simply wasn't any of their business. Regards from Indiana!
@@davidcattin7006I agree to a very large extent. U don't need to be validated by mommy and daddy. Straights don't come out. Get an education, work hard and become financially independent so you may live YOUR life with YOUR choices.
What a well made and realistic story relating to the difficulty of two people who have fallen in love, but are of the same sex. It emphasises how love is overpowering and uncontrollable. Love is the same for both people whatever their sexes.
No, love is not the same "for both people whatever their sexes." For heteros the worst that could happen is that the father did not like the fiancé. But as homosexuals it brings the threat of condemnation by the family and also by the community his father is a part of, especially where religion is involved.
This was a great film. Short but to the point. My husband and I have been together over 22 years but I am still the friend when we visit. I have accepted this because 99% of the time we are genuinely honest about who we are. It’s hard but I won’t make him come out to them. When I did my mother and I became estranged.
I’ve been guilty in my younger days of inviting a boyfriend to a friend / family get together & wanting him to be a friend, a mate, nothing mentioned about our relationship. It was the worse thing I ever did, I couldn’t see the problem, I wanted him to masculine up. I regret it everyday - this was very sad for me to watch.
Some how this had me on the edge of my seat not wanting them to be discovered in the toilet of all places...... all the sordid associations with cottaging. Yet it was tender and loving at the same time. The juxtaposition was beautifully portrayed.
This brings back memories of a very dear friend’s wedding in the Highlands, and a guy I was with was also invited as my +1. He was the great love of my life, but he abandoned me a month before the wedding - he just vanished and ghosted me. Going to that wedding alone was one of the most painful experiences of my life; I cried for most of the 10 hour drive back to Somerset.
In Brittany, we have something that is like ceilidh, we call it fest-noz. It's also a traditionnal place to dance, have fun. I brought my boyfriend to a fest-noz more thant 2 years ago for the first time, and I could assure you it's a real pleasure to make the one we love discover our own culture, and dancing together.
No one should be forced like that to come out to his family, in front of his whole home town. Almost under a threat of a breakup if you don't! We do it when and if we're ready, it's very personal. It made me so uncomfortable to watch.
Having been in similar situation with my boyfriend of the time (I was the one who brought my boyfriend of the time to my family event), yes no one should be forced to come out, but also no one should have that situation spring on them. If your going to be brought into a situation like that by your partner they should tell you so you can be prepared, not hope you will figure it out.
No one should be lied to from the beginning of a relationship. No one should be put in an awkward situation of discovering they were brought there under false pretense. No one should have to live in someone else’s closet. Exactly what kind of relationship can be built on lies? If there is no honesty, how can you trust the person who claims to love you Closeted gay men are the absolute worse men to get into a relationship with. A closeted man very often has homophobic thinking, out of fear. And while understandable, it is still unhealthy and can be a disaster for the partner. It always ends badly. I would have packed up and left.
Both had different expectations of the trip, which could have been resolved earlier by asking each other what the trip was intended for (i.e., communicate)...
That's true. If only everyone was good at considering all the consequences of all their decisions ahead of time. (Well, there would have been no need for this film or most serious films.) It's much easier to say what they should have done rather than what they should do, particularly from afar in the abstract and when one has more experience than these characters do. When you're 25 and in love, you're focused on your emotions and communicating _them_ until you come up against everyday reality and discover you should have talked in detail about that too. While their problem is not completely resolved by this little dance in the toilet (plenty of suspense as to whether or not they were going to be discovered, but that turned out not to the be the point of the film), the kind of compromise they achieved did affirm their love for each other without making the situation seem easy to resolve, which it clearly isn't.
Great movie and true-telling story of the current situation today of gay-people. I hope these kind of movies helps us to create the future, so that (young) men-couples can dance where ever they want on a dance floor and needn't the covered place of a toilet. Of course, this is also true for girl/women-couples.
Nice little film, a great reminder of how a simple misunderstanding things can become, we often have our own ideas and preconceived notions of how something should be and want the whole world to perceive things the way we do, but once we understand others viewpoint and perspective, let go of these often flawed conceptions, we can live free from the burden of our own flaws.
You want to write a brilliant script ... .. at the end when they are dancing an elderly man walks in, they are stunned, and he says, “you two make a smart couple. Anyone can see the love with the two of you.” How brilliant would your little movie be with that.
It's sad, that in 2022/2023, we STILL feel the shame of being who we really are, who we were born as... and half the country has nothing but hatred and disgust in spite of it. As you grow older, you start knocking down those invisible walls and accept yourself, and disregarding those who treat you as less than a human being. For, they really mean nothing.
Not everyone wants or needs to say the words. It was none of my parents business, but I did want them to meet my "friend". We had a fine time together; they never asked any questions.
Ceilidh, which is Celt in origin is pronounce kay-lee. It's both and Scottish and Irish event. I find the title of this short film to be interesting. It's suggestive of something else, but accurately describes the location.
So ... the Scott boyfriend ... how about explaining the not-coming out part BEFORE going and letting the boyfriend decide WHETHER to go? It is the height of selfishness to let the boyfriend find out while meeting the family that it's his job to help keep the secret hidden and continue the lies. All these sympathies for "no one should be forced to come out before he's ready ... " Fine. But why does the partner have to play an active role in being complicit in the cowardice of continuing a life of lies?
@@steventhompson1918 Aah yes ... the same old retread ... don't judge. Because there is no defending the lying and making the one he supposedly loves a part of his deceits.
The British lad thought the Scottish boy had a talk with his dad, apparently not. And then when the British lad had an other than convo about fly fishing he knew right then that the Scottish boy was terrified of "coming out" to his family. In reality, the Scottish/Irish/British handle gay males a bit differently (not well) so there's that stigma of being ostracized/exiled from the family. Then there are those families that accept their offspring as being gay, but it's a low percentage, even today but its changing.....
What right did the English boy have of asking his Scottish friend to out himself to his entire community at once? It takes some people quite a while before they dare to tell one family member, let alone the entire family at once.
I was shocked that the wee Scots laddy was so crass as to induce the English bloke to meet his father and his father's peers without even a heads up that he wanted him to pretend they were just straight friends. To add insult to injury, he even had the audacity to get angry that this made the Englishman uncomfortable. Apparently he even expected him to play the female part in a line dance. Such a blatant lack of consideration and common sense should have led the guest to part ways with him for good.
A) Way too many men chatting in the men's room. Already a problem lol B) How many men did we see fail to wash their hands after using the urinal? OMG...
This is a test of the emergency closeted system ... .. will you comply with my closeted lifestyle or not? Never go anywhere with your boyfriend that you have to pretend to not be his boyfriend.
Aside from the enormous use of profanity and even blasphemy, which, I suppose is common there, it is a lovely story - and the great importance Rory attaches to Dan's being in Scotland is something I think that really only native Scots can understand. Wonderful actors, too. Just clean up the language a little!
that scene meant a lot to me....seeing these two young men communicate about love....friendship....family.....isolation.....homophobia......but most importantly they danced together while the dad played Scottish music.....amazing.....thanks for the scene Louis...Ira
Very clever writing - how we shift from total sympathies for the displaced English boy, to the Scots boy at the end. Just a camera, in a set piece toilet, and two very good actors and an equilibrium of viewpoints- in the end.
Hello Scott
Very wellsaid
I dated a guy for about a year & he got mad because I wouldn't come out to my parents. They were both born in the early 1920's & were Baptists, thus their generation was such that they didn't believe that a person could be born gay. He tried his best to show them what I was & even to the point about getting us shown on TV at the 1997 Pride in Atlanta. I told him he was crazy & if he was trying to destroy me, he was going in that direction. But the most ironic thing was that he never came right out & told his parents, who were born in the 1940's. He waited until they were both dead, before he came out to his family & friends. I never told my parents before they died out of respect, so some people might think I was cowardly, but growing up in the 1950's thru now, it was something to keep hidden & you would have been a fool to think otherwise.
I agree. Not everyone wants or needs to come out. I never said the words to my parents tho I did introduce them to my "friend". It didn't seem necessary, and simply wasn't any of their business. Regards from Indiana!
@@davidcattin7006I agree to a very large extent. U don't need to be validated by mommy and daddy. Straights don't come out. Get an education, work hard and become financially independent so you may live YOUR life with YOUR choices.
It’s not cowardly, dude. It’s compassionate. Some things parents just don’t need to know. You’re a good son. What an hypocritical anus your ex was.
What a well made and realistic story relating to the difficulty of two people who have fallen in love, but are of the same sex. It emphasises how love is overpowering and uncontrollable. Love is the same for both people whatever their sexes.
No, love is not the same "for both people whatever their sexes." For heteros the worst that could happen is that the father did not like the fiancé. But as homosexuals it brings the threat of condemnation by the family and also by the community his father is a part of, especially where religion is involved.
This was a great film. Short but to the point. My husband and I have been together over 22 years but I am still the friend when we visit. I have accepted this because 99% of the time we are genuinely honest about who we are. It’s hard but I won’t make him come out to them. When I did my mother and I became estranged.
I’ve been guilty in my younger days of inviting a boyfriend to a friend / family get together & wanting him to be a friend, a mate, nothing mentioned about our relationship.
It was the worse thing I ever did, I couldn’t see the problem, I wanted him to masculine up.
I regret it everyday - this was very sad for me to watch.
But do you guys still together??
But, you learned from the experience, and hopefully you didn't make the same mistake again.
Some how this had me on the edge of my seat not wanting them to be discovered in the toilet of all places...... all the sordid associations with cottaging. Yet it was tender and loving at the same time. The juxtaposition was beautifully portrayed.
I didn't know what cottaging was.
philip thomey but you do now!!
This brings back memories of a very dear friend’s wedding in the Highlands, and a guy I was with was also invited as my +1. He was the great love of my life, but he abandoned me a month before the wedding - he just vanished and ghosted me. Going to that wedding alone was one of the most painful experiences of my life; I cried for most of the 10 hour drive back to Somerset.
Noted - and felt.
I am sorry…..ghosting is cowardly.
Lovely little fill! Joe Sefton's nuanced performance was perfect and totally believable.
For anyone wondering ceilidh is pronounced caylee
Thanks for that! I certainly didn't know.
In Brittany, we have something that is like ceilidh, we call it fest-noz. It's also a traditionnal place to dance, have fun. I brought my boyfriend to a fest-noz more thant 2 years ago for the first time, and I could assure you it's a real pleasure to make the one we love discover our own culture, and dancing together.
La Bretagne est open minded !!
Absolutely moving. So much said in 10 minutes.
I'm french but I love Scotland and scottish people so much ! Love this clever moving short film
No one should be forced like that to come out to his family, in front of his whole home town. Almost under a threat of a breakup if you don't! We do it when and if we're ready, it's very personal. It made me so uncomfortable to watch.
Can i know the name of yhis movie please ???
Well most people don’t like to keep there couple a secret 🤦🏾♂️
Having been in similar situation with my boyfriend of the time (I was the one who brought my boyfriend of the time to my family event), yes no one should be forced to come out, but also no one should have that situation spring on them. If your going to be brought into a situation like that by your partner they should tell you so you can be prepared, not hope you will figure it out.
No one should be lied to from the beginning of a relationship. No one should be put in an awkward situation of discovering they were brought there under false pretense. No one should have to live in someone else’s closet. Exactly what kind of relationship can be built on lies? If there is no honesty, how can you trust the person who claims to love you Closeted gay men are the absolute worse men to get into a relationship with. A closeted man very often has homophobic thinking, out of fear. And while understandable, it is still unhealthy and can be a disaster for the partner. It always ends badly. I would have packed up and left.
Intense. And ---can I run my fingers through his beautiful hair!😃❤️
Can’t help but notice how Scottish cultural films often feature Irish traditional music. Dancing Gay Gordon’s to a jig? Easy film to watch.
Beautiful, tender film. I so hope there's a follow up
Both had different expectations of the trip, which could have been resolved earlier by asking each other what the trip was intended for (i.e., communicate)...
That's true. If only everyone was good at considering all the consequences of all their decisions ahead of time. (Well, there would have been no need for this film or most serious films.) It's much easier to say what they should have done rather than what they should do, particularly from afar in the abstract and when one has more experience than these characters do. When you're 25 and in love, you're focused on your emotions and communicating _them_ until you come up against everyday reality and discover you should have talked in detail about that too. While their problem is not completely resolved by this little dance in the toilet (plenty of suspense as to whether or not they were going to be discovered, but that turned out not to the be the point of the film), the kind of compromise they achieved did affirm their love for each other without making the situation seem easy to resolve, which it clearly isn't.
Great movie and true-telling story of the current situation today of gay-people. I hope these kind of movies helps us to create the future, so that (young) men-couples can dance where ever they want on a dance floor and needn't the covered place of a toilet. Of course, this is also true for girl/women-couples.
Lovely film, and gosh, if the music at dance parties in Scotland is that way every time, I'm booking my trip now!
Ótimo roteiro e diálogos! Lindas as atuações, com muita cumplicidade. Ambiente adequado para a situação e ação. Amei! .
Fabulous film goodness this had me in tears, by god have I lived that psychology wonderful acting great film.
Nice little film, a great reminder of how a simple misunderstanding things can become, we often have our own ideas and preconceived notions of how something should be and want the whole world to perceive things the way we do, but once we understand others viewpoint and perspective, let go of these often flawed conceptions, we can live free from the burden of our own flaws.
the dance in the bathroom was wonderful
I love how people stopped coming in toilet . The moment they started conveying their feelings😅
Oohhhhh I’ve been there and how alone it felt being the date that can’t be real to who you are.awkward.
You want to write a brilliant script ...
.. at the end when they are dancing an elderly man walks in, they are stunned, and he says, “you two make a smart couple. Anyone can see the love with the two of you.”
How brilliant would your little movie be with that.
It's sad, that in 2022/2023, we STILL feel the shame of being who we really are, who we were born as... and half the country has nothing but hatred and disgust in spite of it. As you grow older, you start knocking down those invisible walls and accept yourself, and disregarding those who treat you as less than a human being. For, they really mean nothing.
Good thing… no one jumped in when both were dancing!
Not everyone wants or needs to say the words. It was none of my parents business, but I did want them to meet my "friend". We had a fine time together; they never asked any questions.
That was just lovely💛💙💜💚❤
From a distant shore.
Brilliant!
Ceilidh, which is Celt in origin is pronounce kay-lee. It's both and Scottish and Irish event.
I find the title of this short film to be interesting. It's suggestive of something else, but accurately describes the location.
Oh my sucha beautiful peice of Art❤🌈
Beautifully done.
I really enjoyed this. Great actors!
So ... the Scott boyfriend ... how about explaining the not-coming out part BEFORE going and letting the boyfriend decide WHETHER to go? It is the height of selfishness to let the boyfriend find out while meeting the family that it's his job to help keep the secret hidden and continue the lies.
All these sympathies for "no one should be forced to come out before he's ready ... " Fine. But why does the partner have to play an active role in being complicit in the cowardice of continuing a life of lies?
Because if you have never been there then don’t judge
@@steventhompson1918 Aah yes ... the same old retread ... don't judge. Because there is no defending the lying and making the one he supposedly loves a part of his deceits.
Really beautifully done. So well acted. Thank you. ☺
Joe Sefton is gorgeous.
To me it seems like a person who's not at least somewhat out of the closet shouldn't be dating someone who is. It usually ends up in conflict.
this gives everyone a good message... literary in a love with it..
Brilliant!
At last a gay movie that has a happy ending!!!
A nice cool scene in this relationship.
Love this...clever and full of emotion :-)
I'm not gay but I am lost. I never had family, moved around all my childhood, mideast to USAi immigrant, somehow I feel a connection with this.
Just the fact that it ended with the GAY Gordon’s
Very cute
All the guys leaving the toilets are saying to everyone 'those two queens are having a domestic'.....lol
Lol!!!
Lovely
what a beautiful film! 💙💙💙
what a good ending - i appreciate that. communication!!
Cute, but those farts need to put some soap on their hands too......LOL.
WONDERFUL!
Btw,beware of the Cannibalism and shitty horrific weather, mainly Aberdeenshire .good luck...
Tell them to wash their hands, dry them with a paper towel then open the door with the paper towel not their bare hands!
Nice instructions, but hardly the focus of this video.
So appreciate your bf's culture. He wants to share it with u.
You didn't have this conversation before going?
The British lad thought the Scottish boy had a talk with his dad, apparently not. And then when the British lad had an other than convo about fly fishing he knew right then that the Scottish boy was terrified of "coming out" to his family. In reality, the Scottish/Irish/British handle gay males a bit differently (not well) so there's that stigma of being ostracized/exiled from the family. Then there are those families that accept their offspring as being gay, but it's a low percentage, even today but its changing.....
@@heyrod59 You mean English not British. England and Scotland are both in Britain! 🙂👍
Sweet!
well done
What right did the English boy have of asking his Scottish friend to out himself to his entire community at once? It takes some people quite a while before they dare to tell one family member, let alone the entire family at once.
omg an English dating a Scotts??? Blasphemy! xD
All could have been avoided if he had made things clear to him beforehand
Very romantic - very real. 👍
Hey! Didn't that one guy come in twice to wee?... I suppose everyone looks similar in a kilt.
That’s cute
No dating closet cases! We deserve better.
Unless it's dangerous for them to come out, and even then... Probably shouldn't.
Hello Pat.......
How are you?
cute...
Excellent. Sad. Why do gay men have to endure so much pain? Progress moves so slowly. Very unfortunate.
❤️
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
I was shocked that the wee Scots laddy was so crass as to induce the English bloke to meet his father and his father's peers without even a heads up that he wanted him to pretend they were just straight friends. To add insult to injury, he even had the audacity to get angry that this made the Englishman uncomfortable. Apparently he even expected him to play the female part in a line dance. Such a blatant lack of consideration and common sense should have led the guest to part ways with him for good.
A) Way too many men chatting in the men's room. Already a problem lol
B) How many men did we see fail to wash their hands after using the urinal? OMG...
Selfish and manipulative, run Englishman run.
Please.
❤both guys are cute sexy xxxxxx
Lover-man? 🤔
This is a test of the emergency closeted system ...
.. will you comply with my closeted lifestyle or not?
Never go anywhere with your boyfriend that you have to pretend to not be his boyfriend.
Aside from the enormous use of profanity and even blasphemy, which, I suppose is common there, it is a lovely story - and the great importance Rory attaches to Dan's being in Scotland is something I think that really only native Scots can understand. Wonderful actors, too. Just clean up the language a little!