LS1 vs LS3: Which One is Better?

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  • Опубликовано: 2 фев 2019
  • Article: dustrunnersauto.com/ls1-vs-ls3/
    Much like the LS1 vs LS2 debate, the later engine is the better one. The LS3 makes more power than an LS1 and has more potential at the end of the day. The LS3 has better heads, a better intake, and a bigger displacement. But, price limits nearly every car guy. We must pick and choose our parts in order to stay within our allotted budget. For that reason, many of us will end up picking the LS1.
    Although we would all love to have to bigger, and better LS3. Most of us just can’t afford it. Like I said in the LS2 vs LS3 debate, I would personally rather have an aluminum 5.3L from a Tahoe. It’s a much cheaper option and it’s nearly just as good as the LS1. All the money you save going with a 5.3L can be put into a set of top-of-the-line cylinder heads.
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  • @Dustrunnersauto
    @Dustrunnersauto  5 лет назад +60

    What do you guys think? LS1 or LS3? What kind of videos do you want to see in the future?

    • @brianroagers6894
      @brianroagers6894 5 лет назад +2

      Dust Runners Automotive Journal ls3

    • @vendmaster7107
      @vendmaster7107 5 лет назад +3

      Ok, going back a bit what's your opinion of the Lt1, without bashing the usual opti spark issue?

    • @brianroagers6894
      @brianroagers6894 5 лет назад +3

      Vend Master I have nothing! reliable engine for there time and can be made to go fast! out side of the Opti spark issues and leaking water pumps I don’t remember them ever kicking my ass to bad over the years. Thanks for asking.

    • @vendmaster7107
      @vendmaster7107 5 лет назад +4

      @@brianroagers6894 yea, I have a 97 trans am ws6 I picked up a few years ago. Very well taken care of... never drive it in rain or winter. Really love it and motor is strong with 80k on the clock.

    • @brianroagers6894
      @brianroagers6894 5 лет назад +1

      Vend Master wow nice find

  • @craigscott5661
    @craigscott5661 4 года назад +50

    I love my LS1 it’s built with a cam bigger intake, headers, bigger throttle body. It’s runs great I put 140k miles on it then took it to a open road race in Nevada, raced it took the SS Camaro up to 150mph and then drove it home. Ended up giving the car to my son and he’s driving it now. Can’t beat LS motors.

    • @SkiRacingOz
      @SkiRacingOz 2 года назад +3

      In Australia the ford turbo barra shit all over the ls motors, a turbo 4.0 in-line six that was torquier across the rpm’s, rock solid reliable, easily pushing 500k kms on original internals, more fuel efficient when off boost and on par when on it, lighter which means better handling and incredibly cheap to mod for big power

    • @hatedonalot9080
      @hatedonalot9080 2 года назад +14

      Nobody cares bout ya 4.0 Ford motor sorry

    • @SkiRacingOz
      @SkiRacingOz 2 года назад

      @@hatedonalot9080 was just correcting him as he said nothing beats an ls

    • @hatedonalot9080
      @hatedonalot9080 2 года назад +4

      @@SkiRacingOz crazy thing is after I read that comment got to watching videos and it just ends up popping on bout that 4.0 Barra motor smfh

    • @SkiRacingOz
      @SkiRacingOz 2 года назад

      @@hatedonalot9080 that’s a bit of a coincidence lol

  • @naastyws6718
    @naastyws6718 5 лет назад +70

    Ls1 gang wya?

    • @schmittza
      @schmittza 3 года назад +2

      Yeah boii vx ss owner here.

    • @100reality2
      @100reality2 3 года назад

      Vx ss owner here too

    • @cheo123ish
      @cheo123ish 3 года назад

      gto

    • @jaywalkin8205
      @jaywalkin8205 3 года назад

      I have a 5.3 block with a 5.7 rotating if that counts 😅

  • @GTX1123
    @GTX1123 5 лет назад +74

    I've been a Chevy guy for 40 years - I'm 56 years old so I owned and worked on my share of Chevy small blocks from way back in the day. The interchangeability of parts were great then as now, but the LS was hands down, the greatest innovation in small block V8 technology. I love my 98 Corvette which, other than long tube headers and a cold air intake, is bone stock. The first iteration of the LS1 produces about the same HP bone stock, as the classic factory 396 big blocks from back in the day. Yeah sure, you could cam and upgrade the heads on a 350 or a 283 back in the day, but the most you would typically get out of it was around 350HP. You had to go up to the 396, 400, 427 and 454 big blocks to get into the higher HP ranges. Back then hard core Chevy guys would typically opt to find a 69 or 70 Chevelle SS with a 396 (good motor) but once you got the itch for a big block, Mopars were really the way to go as they ruled that space in that era. But today, the HP upgrade potential for ALL LS motors is something we could have only dreamed about 40 years ago.

    • @kensnyder2340
      @kensnyder2340 4 года назад +2

      Steve, I used to live and breathe the Bowtie as well back in the 60's. We discovered putting the 375HP cam in a 325 HP big block was an Ass kicker without much else. I liked the 440 Mopar better than the BBC though for longevity. The first Roadrunner I put a clutch in was a 1/2 ton truck underneath!! Made the Chevys look kind of tame at the time with the little 10 bolt rear. You're right on with new HP numbers with the LS. Really no need for a BB anymore!

    • @fpsnashamdan7362
      @fpsnashamdan7362 4 года назад

      I like the nice engine and transmission were installed on the Chevy Caprice and Impala 1979 ...the fantastic small block

    • @RICHON1979
      @RICHON1979 4 года назад

      Proud of my 99 camaro ,,best engines of the world in my opinion

    • @Vegasclaw
      @Vegasclaw 4 года назад

      I have an LS6 in my vette and i have to say gm gave us an awesome tranny and the engine its so powerful that just an intake exhaust and tires i ran 11.4 that just blows my mind, thats hellcat and 911 turbo territory

    • @GTX1123
      @GTX1123 4 года назад +2

      @@Vegasclaw Yep. I'm quite happy with my 6 speed 98 LS1. It's not as fast as yours but I only paid 9k for a garage kept Arizona car with under 60k original miles that came with a the additional's of; a competition clutch, long tube headers, cold air intake, carbon fiber trim work in the interior and in the engine compartment and a Bose sound system.

  • @danmadden9917
    @danmadden9917 5 лет назад +24

    The LS3 every day of the week and twice on Sunday!!

  • @1991tommygun
    @1991tommygun 5 лет назад +245

    There will always be something better, im happy with my ls1

    • @gavinmilani5436
      @gavinmilani5436 5 лет назад +2

      where do i get an ls1

    • @1991tommygun
      @1991tommygun 5 лет назад +11

      scoop 43 what do you mean, they come in cars, buy a camaro or go to a junkyard and buy an engine???

    • @gavinmilani5436
      @gavinmilani5436 5 лет назад +1

      i’m trying to put it in my 84 chevy c10 and i don’t know where i can get one. where did you get yours?

    • @1991tommygun
      @1991tommygun 5 лет назад +3

      scoop 43 my 02 trans am ws6 came with an ls1

    • @st0l3nmuscle15
      @st0l3nmuscle15 5 лет назад +4

      Like the ls7 thats better then my ls3

  • @cheeseburgerrunner5217
    @cheeseburgerrunner5217 5 лет назад +7

    I like how short the video was, good info, facts to support your thoughts. 👍

  • @brendonchase9460
    @brendonchase9460 4 года назад +5

    Well delivered run down on the ls1&3. Kept it reasonably simple without the lengthy ramble. Awesome

  • @smokeldogg
    @smokeldogg 4 года назад +20

    I loved the LS1 in my 99 Trans Am, with a 6 speed of course.

    • @awfulcoffelsonecargarage8215
      @awfulcoffelsonecargarage8215 5 месяцев назад +2

      I have a 99 LS1 motor sitting in my basement I've had that thing for 12 years build a few other Motors since then but one of these days I'll get the money saved up to build it love those Trans Ams later bye

  • @its_bearded_wisdom2009
    @its_bearded_wisdom2009 4 года назад +7

    Hey man great video I really liked it!
    Some constructive criticism, the intro and outro music made me want to jump face first into a wood chipper.
    Keep up the good work mate!

  • @Lxzandr
    @Lxzandr 5 лет назад +4

    Awesome video! More knowledge about the beautiful LS family. Cheers

  • @jedclampett6466
    @jedclampett6466 5 лет назад +7

    Great information. Please keep doing what you're doing.

  • @pferris3591
    @pferris3591 5 лет назад +18

    Nicely done! Good volume, pacing and great info layout. Looking forward to seeing more videos in the future! ☺

  • @robertbass974
    @robertbass974 5 лет назад +32

    I like them all ! Great video, you stay on point with alot of info.

  • @NebukedNezzer
    @NebukedNezzer 5 лет назад +11

    I bought my truck new in 1999. it has the LQ4 all cast iron 6 L. Love it and will keep it forever.

  • @steveblottenberger1097
    @steveblottenberger1097 3 года назад +1

    Good job for a young man I've been dealing with engine building for 30 years good job

  • @simonmatthews9413
    @simonmatthews9413 3 года назад +8

    I have both. I believe it comes down to application. One is in my daily drive work ute, the other in my HSV weekend drive. The LS1 has done 275,000 kms with minimal work, always maintained though. The LS3 goes hard for sure but is sometimes very expensive in parts.

  • @FarOutRadioMusic
    @FarOutRadioMusic 5 лет назад +7

    I've been writing about Corvettes for decades for Vette Magazine and you are spot on correct! The LS1 started out at 345-hp in 1997 and went to 350-hp in 2001. The LS3 came out in 2008 rated at 430-hp, an 80-hp bump over the LS1! The LS2 came out in 2005 with 400-hp. However, an LS1 can be goosed easily to 500-hp with bolt-on hardware. But an LS3 with the same bolt-on will be stronger. It all comes down to how deep your pockets are. Excellent video!

    • @Dustrunnersauto
      @Dustrunnersauto  5 лет назад +1

      Thanks! 🙏🏻

    • @gabrielcollazo6835
      @gabrielcollazo6835 5 лет назад

      No ls1 will reach 500hp with bolt ons, you need a huge cam and max ported heads/intake e85 to break 480hp

    • @masonmcnabb2429
      @masonmcnabb2429 4 месяца назад

      ​@@gabrielcollazo6835technically speaking, turbos and superchargers "bolt on"

  • @brianroagers6894
    @brianroagers6894 5 лет назад +86

    LS3 blessed by the hand of god! in our Modern days nice to have 400+ hp easy to work on and Affordable for most!!!!!

    • @aaronbridges8098
      @aaronbridges8098 5 лет назад +5

      sorry man no offence but 400hp out of ether a ls1 or ls3 is a walk in the park

    • @brianroagers6894
      @brianroagers6894 5 лет назад +16

      I know easy to say these days when having a 400-500+hp v8 is as common as having an ass hole attached to you.......everyone has one!
      Wasn’t my point but you made one!
      Not hard to make way more power than the base number easily mode friendly everyone’s doing it, but I’m a old fuck now and times have changed that is with out a doubt, I like walks in the park 💪

    • @aaronbridges8098
      @aaronbridges8098 5 лет назад +2

      Brian Roagers I’m not that young ether. I’m a convert from the old days but that being said, remember 400hp isn’t even that impressive for a 350 small block with vortec heads

    • @brianroagers6894
      @brianroagers6894 5 лет назад +1

      Aaron Bridges I get what yr saying

    • @MTT-ic3ci
      @MTT-ic3ci 5 лет назад +1

      Right, I'm a ford man but I always give LS its respect, With just Long tube headers and a cam you can pull well over 500hp, that's incredible, mean while 200grand AMGs only making 450hp.
      LS is boring now, every man and dog is swapping em.

  • @terryparker1012
    @terryparker1012 4 года назад

    Couldn't agree with you more.
    Great job.
    I've got an LS3 in my 2014 GMC.
    Just awesome,.
    Thank you.
    I've learned alot.

    • @seantaylor2683
      @seantaylor2683 4 года назад +1

      Unless you swapped it, the engine in your GMC will be the truck version of the LT1 which is also a 6.2L engine

  • @mikevanek4853
    @mikevanek4853 5 лет назад +5

    Thanks, i needed that!

  • @alonsorendon8132
    @alonsorendon8132 4 года назад +15

    I’ll have one of each, just to be safe

  • @johnkempton5269
    @johnkempton5269 4 года назад +2

    Great vid. 2012 ss2/RS Camaro LS3 owner. I’m built and dynoed at 547hp and can’t weigh in on the difference but I’m happy with my LS3. God bless America and our American made cars.

  • @darrellmorris6116
    @darrellmorris6116 5 лет назад +42

    The ls2 is my favorite engine. Ls2 with ls3 heads is pretty good.

    • @codenamecordon
      @codenamecordon 4 года назад +4

      But why not a whole LS3?

    • @jonasgrumby1093
      @jonasgrumby1093 4 года назад +5

      GM calls this the L76

    • @trixnhoez2964
      @trixnhoez2964 4 года назад +1

      L76 is the displacement on demand version, correct? L98 is the non DOD.

    • @Trebor-gw8lt
      @Trebor-gw8lt 4 года назад +1

      LS2 with LS3 heads is a nice combo.

    • @ghs7714
      @ghs7714 4 года назад +2

      Poor mans ls2

  • @nopass424
    @nopass424 5 лет назад +5

    Good information...and yes sir...you are correct!!!

  • @grahamsmith2022
    @grahamsmith2022 5 лет назад +29

    You've nailed it bud,it depends how deep the pockets are but generally,it's extremely rare for engineers to design a new engine that performs worse than a previous design,it comes down to bang for buck and how much the benefits of the newer design are worth to a buyer.

    • @davidjames666
      @davidjames666 4 года назад +1

      A new engine design could have a flaw that reveals itself long after production ends. Builders would then desire the earlier design.

  • @andujo211
    @andujo211 5 лет назад +1

    Thanks for the info that was awesome

  • @1950harleycharley
    @1950harleycharley 4 года назад

    Wow....I learned a lot from you today!!!

  • @timdingleakajacksparrow2748
    @timdingleakajacksparrow2748 4 года назад +5

    I love my old LS1 ,, It’s done nearly 300,000 Klms And it still pulls like a bull in spring, Mind you I change the oil every 5-6 thousand ks Keeps it running smoothly 👍⁉️😂🤣

  • @ericdolby1622
    @ericdolby1622 4 года назад +6

    Cylinder deactivation is not a cool thing. I would avoid it at costs.

  • @OlympusHeavyCavalry
    @OlympusHeavyCavalry 4 года назад +2

    Interesting debate about the LS engine family between the 1 & 3, Cheers :-)

  • @MrBbbakersk
    @MrBbbakersk 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for the info, here in Puerto Rico theres a big scene of muscle cars and europeans and japanese cars that would happily fit an LS in them , shipping its expensive here so for a v8 these are pretty lightweight, not to mention the benefit of it being lightweight in vehicle Driveability

  • @alexbolin852
    @alexbolin852 4 года назад +3

    LS7 is my favorite of all of them, but the Lm7 5.3 is probably the strongest, and the LSX-R V10 is the most intriguing of all of them. Factory engine that got shut down by GM in the early 2000's cause of who knows what. Also all the Sub engines like L99, L92, lm7,lq9, LLY, LY6 etc. Are all Ls engines because they all have the "LS" block design, just different cubic inches and engine materials

  • @gurnblanstein9816
    @gurnblanstein9816 3 года назад +3

    I have a stock LS1 in my CJ7 and it has more than enough power. It's actually scary fast.

    • @edgraves9978
      @edgraves9978 Год назад

      That’s what I am thinking of putting in my CJ. We’re you able to use all the factory accessories?

  • @ottomechb
    @ottomechb 4 года назад

    Concise and informative. Thanks

  • @abelocampo5776
    @abelocampo5776 5 лет назад +1

    Great video, thank you for an actual description. 🥇

  • @EasyFixShaun
    @EasyFixShaun 5 лет назад +11

    *_I think it is so great to have options from GM. Even if you go to a LT1, The plug and play of this manufacture can't be beaten_*

    • @Dustrunnersauto
      @Dustrunnersauto  5 лет назад +2

      Easy Fix true. Thanks for the comments 🙏🏻

    • @darrenmcfeaters6683
      @darrenmcfeaters6683 5 лет назад

      Every manufacturer has plug and play.

    • @EasyFixShaun
      @EasyFixShaun 5 лет назад +2

      @@darrenmcfeaters6683 Probably true. But is it as good as GM's "plug and play" adaptability?

    • @ivanlaney2336
      @ivanlaney2336 5 лет назад

      @@EasyFixShaun Ford's Modular (mod) Motors are very adaptable like that.....buuuuut....I own 2. 1 (4.6 3v) in an 05 GT Mustang and 1 in an 07 Expedition (5.4
      3v) Its just that finding HP in these things is like finding chicken teeth. I have LS parts at the local machine shop right now for my 89' GTA Trans-am convertible build with an on3 Turd-bo kit to slap on it. Had a trick-flow headed, Lingenfelter cammed, 383 TPI and a Paxton on it when I tore it down.

  • @markjmaxwell9819
    @markjmaxwell9819 5 лет назад +18

    The first lS1 engines did have some cylinder bore and ring issues.
    That they rectified the issue by the time the last batches were built.
    The lS3 has more capacity and no inherent design issues.
    So straight from the factory the lS3 is the clear choice.
    But when rebuilding engines comes into play it is open for conjecture.
    😉😉😉😉😉

    • @Slaktrax
      @Slaktrax 3 года назад

      The issue was the piston rings, they lowered the spring tension to lower internal friction and it didn't work; high oil consumption.

  • @LuvDoc-tk7tx
    @LuvDoc-tk7tx 5 лет назад +1

    Nice breakdown!

  • @Jaydayallday
    @Jaydayallday 3 года назад

    Nice vid. Good detail

  • @kentshuster8927
    @kentshuster8927 5 лет назад +12

    Listen people ls1 lt1 motors can be modified to your performance needs as the ls6 and ls3. Also lsx aftermarket engines are performing as drag car engines any ls1 series engines can produce twice there displacement in horsepower !!!!!

  • @james8662
    @james8662 5 лет назад +62

    A cable throttle is the only way to go

    • @gittyupalice96
      @gittyupalice96 5 лет назад +8

      I have a fly by wire throttle in my 2002 camaro, has zero issues... Also makes tuning throttle response easier

    • @aaronnoyb
      @aaronnoyb 5 лет назад +5

      Only way to go for those that enjoy a black and white CRT TV.

    • @Adam-rt7lp
      @Adam-rt7lp 5 лет назад +2

      @@aaronnoyb
      CRT have faster response time then LCDs, just like cable throttles
      😎

    • @aaronnoyb
      @aaronnoyb 5 лет назад +1

      @@Adam-rt7lp
      Touche, well played, great reply.
      But my data logger disagrees with you. Swapping to cable, netted me more power from 4500-5400, than the FBW it replaced, after 5400 the HP/TQ numbers matched. On elapsed time from 100% TPS, the FBW got there first, boost pressure climbed quicker too, same dyno, same day. It did show me that the FBW throttle could go 100%, earlier than it was set for, I haven't had dyno time since swapping back, to test the theory. Turns out manifold velocity is important, in boost, but under waste gate boost pressure, who knew, maybe GM. Swapped back for street manners, fuel economy and most importantly traction control after cruise control tried to kill me in the wet.
      LSA based setup.

    • @Blueknight1960
      @Blueknight1960 4 года назад +4

      @@aaronnoyb Here's an idea, don't use cruise control when it rains, snows or sleets. Otherwise known as slippery conditions.

  • @willpowers4762
    @willpowers4762 4 года назад

    I just sold my '00, Z28, it was a solid 13.40's quarter mile car. It was an all stock automatic with the GU5 performance axle. I bought a '08, LS3 Corvette, 6 speed automatic, it has Corsa exhaust and a Corsa air intake. I haven't had it to the track yet, but, the LS3 makes my LS1 seem pretty tame. I'm hoping for some 12:40's when I hit the local drag strip this summer.

  • @jacksmith3189
    @jacksmith3189 5 лет назад

    Good information
    Thanks

  • @dpracing1
    @dpracing1 5 лет назад +100

    No reason to watch the video.
    LS3 hands down. There is nothing better about an LS1.
    LS3 has better:
    Block strength (rotocast from 2009 and up)
    Block breathing
    More displacement 376 vs. 346
    Rectangle LS7 STYLE heads with better valve angle and larger valve size.
    Stronger castings
    Better intake manifold
    Better exhaust manifolds
    DOD for better efficiency
    That’s all I can think of off the top of my head.

    • @brandonh9016
      @brandonh9016 4 года назад +12

      DOD is ass

    • @richardwimmer6846
      @richardwimmer6846 4 года назад

      Amen

    • @7071t6
      @7071t6 4 года назад

      if you can find one and also depending where you are, some country's used them like australia, but then again it comes down to Oe parts very expensive compared to aftermarket parts for the LS1, even the L98, L77 6lt engine has better power and better support aftermarket wise, cheers :) Spend a couple grand on a L98 or L77 and you have at least 400 HP at the rear wheel's, but spend the same on the LS3 6.2 Lt, if you have a stock car and you just get to that much power, if you get my drift ? Also depends where you take your car to have these aftermarket upgrades, like headers, OTR, tune etc. :)

    • @stlchucko
      @stlchucko 4 года назад +6

      Brandon 2SS
      The LS3 doesn’t have DOD.

    • @amorag59
      @amorag59 4 года назад +2

      cough... Price

  • @SirYenko_
    @SirYenko_ 5 лет назад +8

    Just a FYI, Gen4 also has much stronger connecting rods. You actually can swap Gen4 rotating assembly into a Gen3 which is popular for budget boost builds because of the stronger rods from the factory

    • @Dustrunnersauto
      @Dustrunnersauto  5 лет назад

      Thanks for the info! I knew Gen IV has a stronger bottom end, but I didn't realize it was that large of a difference.

    • @SirYenko_
      @SirYenko_ 5 лет назад

      @@Dustrunnersauto I have a set of Gen3 and Gen4 in my garage, I'll be sure to cover the differences this summer when my project is in full swing. First look, there's a significant difference between the two generations.

    • @kujo12r
      @kujo12r 5 лет назад

      @@Dustrunnersauto also FYI only 6.0 and larger gen 4 engines have the rec port heads. the 5.3 and 4.8 still have cathedral because the intake valves are so large on the rec port heads they wont fit the smaller bores.

  • @Siillky
    @Siillky 4 года назад +1

    I have a 5.3 lm7 in my Z and I’m in love

  • @charlesludwig9173
    @charlesludwig9173 4 года назад +8

    This video makes me wonder if an LS3 crate motor could be a drop-in replacement for the LS1 engine in my 2000 Camaro SS with auto transmission?

    • @crw3673
      @crw3673 4 года назад +2

      Yes it should. Their is a 4 gen Camaro on RUclips, ls3 engine in it. Awesome car!

    • @allenmessmer2508
      @allenmessmer2508 4 года назад +1

      yes

    • @demarcodraper4266
      @demarcodraper4266 4 года назад +3

      @@crw3673 You have to get the crank pick up adapter harness

    • @crw3673
      @crw3673 4 года назад +1

      @@demarcodraper4266 you are correct!

    • @seantaylor2683
      @seantaylor2683 4 года назад +3

      I don't think a 4L60 will last very long behind an LS3

  • @johntempest267
    @johntempest267 4 года назад +3

    You didn't mention the 3 is 60lbs lighter than the LS1, and smaller, despite having larger displacement

  • @petejoseph8257
    @petejoseph8257 4 года назад

    Good simple explanations of LS based motors.

  • @frfrpr
    @frfrpr 4 года назад

    Super info..well done video. Thanks

  • @Dr.Westside
    @Dr.Westside 5 лет назад +9

    Bang for the buck wise you can't beat the 5.3 lm7 truck motor . They're super cheap there's millions of them around and they can hold a dump ton of boost on a completely stock motor . a healthy stage 3 turbo cam a 76mm turbo port and polish and some 80 lb per hour injectors a better fuel pump and you got a reliable 800 horsepower vehicle . Give it a good forged crank shot peened rods a good set of main bearings healthy cam and some bigger valves maybe a set of roller rockers and some beehive springs and a really good set of pistons and you can run quite a bit of nitrous on it as well . There's quite a few articles out there about how well the 706's actually work and why . As well as dyno proof to back it up . I think super Chevy did the article . Make no mistake there is no replacement for the strength of an iron block . No matter what you do with the truck motor you can be ballin on a budget .

    • @italianrelic
      @italianrelic 5 лет назад +2

      Dr. Westside lm7 iron block is my choice also

    • @av8rbri473
      @av8rbri473 5 лет назад +1

      Dr. Westside x2

    • @chrisschultz5553
      @chrisschultz5553 4 года назад

      I'm building a daily driver pro touring track car that I can beat and have fun with. I'm mot sure witch motor would be best. Budget is 15k . I will need everything motor ,trans., cooling .driveshaft. fuel tank ect. and as much power as I can get, I would like to boost it but not sure if realistic with only 15k. Or have it built for boost down the road? looking at 6.0 iron block for about 1500k or I found 2011 vet .LS3 for 4k. I'm trying to learn as much as I can. I would like to have your opinion on this? thanks Chris

  • @jeffv2074
    @jeffv2074 5 лет назад +3

    I'm thinking of upgrading g to a 2016 Camaro LT1 with 6 speed for my 4th Gen

    • @amordeweso
      @amordeweso 4 года назад +1

      Random Stuff let us know how difficult that swap is...... I been thinking about a new lt1 but all the tech bs prob be easier an cheaper for ls3

    • @derekdelanski4739
      @derekdelanski4739 4 года назад +1

      Just go H/C and you'll be fine instead of the LT1. PS-4th gen power! LOL

  • @jackhandy3360
    @jackhandy3360 5 лет назад +1

    Impressive and informative video

  • @JohnC-kc5uh
    @JohnC-kc5uh 5 лет назад +1

    Awesome info

  • @MrChristianbowman82
    @MrChristianbowman82 5 лет назад +7

    I swapped a ls3 into my 5.3 crew cab Silverado and want to try out a ls7 in my 68 camaro but may end up going with a ls3

    • @steventhacker350
      @steventhacker350 4 года назад

      @John Carosi
      Except the LS is one of the most reliable engines ever made....

  • @michaelpace64
    @michaelpace64 5 лет назад +4

    I like my lS2

    • @esnesio1610
      @esnesio1610 4 года назад

      michaelpace64 have you had any problems with it

  • @kensnyder2340
    @kensnyder2340 4 года назад

    Good information and you don't repeat yourself.

  • @georgeross7145
    @georgeross7145 5 лет назад +2

    Very well done, thanx. How does the Cadillac LQ series fit in?

  • @BazzFromOz
    @BazzFromOz 5 лет назад +19

    I know this for sure, my LS3 (Holden VF2 SS - aka Chevy SS) makes an LS1 seem like it's standing still ...lol

    • @actontreadway1168
      @actontreadway1168 5 лет назад +1

      cameros are great

    • @shanep8891
      @shanep8891 4 года назад

      Can confirm have a E2 GTS with small cam, what LS1?

    • @robertarchbold8658
      @robertarchbold8658 4 года назад +3

      But then you get chopped by a 4ltr barra

    • @lettheboywatch3100
      @lettheboywatch3100 4 года назад

      @@robertarchbold8658 ruclips.net/video/Bq9yS9coqyY/видео.html are you sure? 🤣 Still the Barra is a monster.

    • @okanui
      @okanui 4 года назад

      @@robertarchbold8658 slap a hair dryer on any engine and it will make NA motors look sick no matter the HP.

  • @ihatemytown
    @ihatemytown 5 лет назад +29

    Better comparison would be LS2 Vs LS3

    • @Dustrunnersauto
      @Dustrunnersauto  5 лет назад +3

      Maybe that video will come in the future 😉

    • @locogtr6475
      @locogtr6475 5 лет назад +1

      @@Dustrunnersauto yeah theyre not even the same gen. Better comparison would be ls2 or ls6 against the ls1.

    • @christopher3067
      @christopher3067 5 лет назад +6

      LS3 is basically a bored LS2 4.00" to a LS3 4.065". That's where the 364ci 6.0L to 376ci6.2L comes into play. The biggest change is the larger rectangle intake port and larger valves on the heads. The LS3 is like the little bother of the LS7 that has all the kinks worked out.

    • @ihatemytown
      @ihatemytown 5 лет назад

      Chris Topher I know you can bolt ls3 heads on the ls2. But if I’m not mistaken, can’t you bolt ls7 heads and camshaft???

    • @cali2468
      @cali2468 5 лет назад

      @@christopher3067 No, LS3 is a totally different block than LS2. They are not the same or the LS3 is not an LS2 with a larger bore as you stated.

  • @MariaOrLex
    @MariaOrLex 4 года назад

    Great video

  • @02WIFE
    @02WIFE 5 лет назад +5

    Ls3 rules

  • @HoldenLS
    @HoldenLS 5 лет назад +4

    Can you make a video about the LS 2?

    • @Dustrunnersauto
      @Dustrunnersauto  5 лет назад

      That video may be coming in the near future!

    • @HoldenLS
      @HoldenLS 5 лет назад

      @@Dustrunnersauto Thank you. Really looking forward to see how it equals to a LS 3.

  • @woodgrain18
    @woodgrain18 5 лет назад +1

    4.Great to the front!!!

  • @kurtstrains
    @kurtstrains 5 лет назад +2

    Also earlier engines have a 24x crank angle sensor while later have 58x. Important because the harness is different

  • @SexSpecMemoryLane
    @SexSpecMemoryLane 4 года назад +13

    Any commodore people?

    • @WorksOnMyComputer
      @WorksOnMyComputer 4 года назад

      Yeap. Looks like with the L77 we are a lot closer to the LS3 then the 6.0 truck engines are in the US.

    • @fetusmccarlane9627
      @fetusmccarlane9627 4 года назад +1

      Statesman with 5.7 in it

    • @schmittza
      @schmittza 3 года назад +1

      Vx ss short shift otr. My baby

    • @100reality2
      @100reality2 3 года назад +1

      Yep vx ss,vy ss

  • @715101
    @715101 5 лет назад +5

    Shouldn't the real question be which one handles boost better?

  • @evl78uc
    @evl78uc 5 лет назад

    I had thought about using the heads and intake from a 6L however im not sure about that anymore but there are options from performance shops where they have worked and tested heads for the ls1 a few grand worth of heads but it has more flow

  • @chronicmalady7424
    @chronicmalady7424 4 года назад

    you talk LS sense. Enjoyed your vid big time.

  • @jasonfryer7002
    @jasonfryer7002 4 года назад +3

    Good God, it's all Greek to me ‼️
    Just gimme the one that'll do Tha best burnout ...😀😎😀

  • @dwightlooi
    @dwightlooi 4 года назад +3

    You forgot the 6.0L LS2 which came between the 5.7L LS1 and the 6.2L LS3.

  • @brandonwright2067
    @brandonwright2067 4 года назад

    Well done sir

  • @brandonwright6578
    @brandonwright6578 5 лет назад

    Great great info

  • @bigredracer7848
    @bigredracer7848 5 лет назад +5

    Bigger is better

    • @Dustrunnersauto
      @Dustrunnersauto  5 лет назад

      Cubes definitely help make more power.

    • @ricktaylor3748
      @ricktaylor3748 5 лет назад +1

      Scott. Not when it comes to women.

    • @H_TRAIN
      @H_TRAIN 5 лет назад

      Rick Taylor just add lube, and she’ll be fine.😂

  • @jimclarke1108
    @jimclarke1108 5 лет назад +12

    LS 7

    • @Dustrunnersauto
      @Dustrunnersauto  5 лет назад +1

      That wasn’t the question though.

    • @lsjuancamaro4342
      @lsjuancamaro4342 5 лет назад +5

      Yea it’s better at dropping a valve!

    • @oonothin
      @oonothin 5 лет назад

      @Echo Drive yea

    • @lsjuancamaro4342
      @lsjuancamaro4342 5 лет назад +1

      Echo Drive yea

    • @AB-80X
      @AB-80X 5 лет назад +1

      @PRN 123D
      No it's far from a common LS7 problem. Yes, there were a batch of valves put in to some LS7 heads that were prone to failure. This was taken care of, and the actual truth is that LS7 heads were never losing valve heads left and right. It strikes me as somewhat common that a lot of people will talk about the LS7 and dropped valves. However, most of these people have never experienced it themselves, nor do they know anybody who has. They have usually never owned an LS7, or much less wrenched on one.
      All in all, the LS7 is a great engine, and if you ever find yourself buying one, do so without worry of the valves. If you get a used one and plan to run a hot cam in it, upgrade the valves and springs as you normally would.

  • @fredjones554
    @fredjones554 5 лет назад

    nice work

  • @reddbonechik
    @reddbonechik 3 года назад

    Thanks a lot 👍🏾

  • @thecommentarium8939
    @thecommentarium8939 4 года назад +4

    A "BLOOMBERG" AD???
    SERIOUSLY???????

  • @mcmc8496
    @mcmc8496 5 лет назад +12

    I collect 6.0 and 80e's from trucks and Express Vans like some people collect Beanie Babies
    Y'all can keep all those "fancy" engine's....

    • @miguel300ish
      @miguel300ish 5 лет назад +2

      CANT ARGUE WITH THAT LOGIC lol your right

    • @MTT-ic3ci
      @MTT-ic3ci 5 лет назад +3

      That 6L is an incredible block.

    • @ianmccartney1042
      @ianmccartney1042 4 года назад

      What is 6.0 and 80e,s mate .

  • @jonienglish3231
    @jonienglish3231 4 года назад

    GOOD VIDEO
    Make one of a LT ENGINE L83 vs other LT Family

  • @DELTRANIO99
    @DELTRANIO99 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for the Vid I see your like a ls Guru ,,Did a 5.3 Swap truck engine and was wondering what would be a good cam across the board low and top end with stock converter ?

  • @fanisfbt
    @fanisfbt 5 лет назад +3

    Ls7

  • @ocranchu9411
    @ocranchu9411 5 лет назад +3

    I'll take an LQ thanks.......

  • @desperadolighfoot8534
    @desperadolighfoot8534 4 года назад

    Tks well explained

  • @jamesguidry3995
    @jamesguidry3995 3 года назад

    My 2002 Z/28 Vert with the auto 4-speed OD with 325 RWHP is plenty & always puts a smile on on my face even with 143,000 miles original everything including spark plugs ! Anything more is just a bigger smile ............

  • @RussellBooth1977
    @RussellBooth1977 5 лет назад +4

    Sometimes it's hardly worth upgrading from an LS1 to an LS2 engine because then HSV increased their power output in my model (2002-2004) they got up to 285 Kilowatts just from a change to a higher flowing exhaust system & headers as well as tuning which was 40 kilowatt increase from the stock 245 kilowatt twin exhaust engine.
    Mine is on par with the stock L76 (6 litre V8) which was fitted from 2006 onwards with the DOD deactivated up until 2009 when they switched it on,HSV did however fit the LS2 between 2004-2006.
    My LS1 is a 2002 model & Holden ordered all of the LS1's with the more aggressive EGR cam (1999-2000 Camaro camshaft) all the way through but they ordered them with the higher flowing LS6 intake fitted from 2000 onwards.
    It's particularly the case with the 300 kilowatt LS1 engine (Callaway engine), it's hardly worth upgrading to the 6.2 litre LT1 which has a 304 kilowatt stock power output unless you do at least a tune & exhaust upgrade on that engine !

  • @andrewsrenson1212
    @andrewsrenson1212 5 лет назад +16

    Ah the LS, the engine that just gets better and better
    In 10 years, the stock LS will probably make 1000hp and get 50mpg

    • @Dustrunnersauto
      @Dustrunnersauto  5 лет назад +3

      Exactly.

    • @badass6300
      @badass6300 5 лет назад +2

      I'd be happy even at 300-500Hp at that 50mpg XD

    • @AB-80X
      @AB-80X 5 лет назад +5

      You do realize that the LS is no longer used, yes?
      It has been replaced by the LT several years ago. The LT1 is damn near 6 years old.

    • @ivanlaney2336
      @ivanlaney2336 5 лет назад +1

      @@AB-80X They stopped making the LT engines in 97 or 98 because it had a piss poor distributor/water pump design. The LS was the next generation AFTER the LT.

    • @AB-80X
      @AB-80X 5 лет назад +4

      @@ivanlaney2336
      What the he....
      Are you so far behind that you've missed the fact, that the LS successor debuted in the C7 Corvette in 2013? In case you are unaware, the Gen V SBC is called the LT, again. Will you also argue that the LS6 was not an engine for the C5, but only a 454 from the 70's? No GM car has been built with an LS engine since 2015 when the trucks and suv's switched to the 5th gen SBC, the LT. The LT you speak of, is basically to the Gen I SBC what the Gen IV LS was to the LS 3rd gen. Same basic platform, but slightly updated. The current LT is to the LS what the LS was to the Gen I/II SBC.

  • @rickilynnwolfe8357
    @rickilynnwolfe8357 5 лет назад

    Tks for sharring very informative..

  • @dcarden3031
    @dcarden3031 4 года назад

    Your right!

  • @fillionerik-jon3242
    @fillionerik-jon3242 5 лет назад +3

    What about ls3 vs new lt1

    • @philllsxga.7737
      @philllsxga.7737 5 лет назад +1

      RUclips GM LT vs LS..

    • @AB-80X
      @AB-80X 5 лет назад

      What about them? Not really comparable.

  • @jaysoco847
    @jaysoco847 5 лет назад +9

    You want an ls3 on a budget. Buy an lq9

    • @Dustrunnersauto
      @Dustrunnersauto  5 лет назад +2

      Yup! Thanks for watching.

    • @freethevibez
      @freethevibez 5 лет назад

      @@Dustrunnersauto will you make a lq9 vs ls3 video? ..please?

    • @marcojordan1368
      @marcojordan1368 4 года назад

      Ls3

    • @israeldoe8000
      @israeldoe8000 4 года назад

      No not the same. Now if you said a l92 i would have agreed

  • @MixedPapi4UBaby73
    @MixedPapi4UBaby73 4 года назад +2

    Hi thanks you for proofing that I was right about a LS 3 engine is better and faster than a LS 1 engine . And thanks for letting me knowing that there are LS 4 to LS 7 engines out there in the world guy !

  • @theredgoatviking4686
    @theredgoatviking4686 3 года назад +1

    I love my built ls2, it’s chop monster.

  • @dcarden3031
    @dcarden3031 5 лет назад +5

    I have a lsx454R sooooo... I don't care about my gas mileage

  • @thatman9792
    @thatman9792 5 лет назад +10

    Why doesn’t anyone talk about the lt1 or the lt4? 🤔

    • @maalmull
      @maalmull 5 лет назад +1

      Because they t junk

    • @knowbull5hit590
      @knowbull5hit590 5 лет назад +1

      Mull ma lmao they have beefier internals than the LS series and make crazy power with just boost thrown at them while getting better mpg

    • @Dustrunnersauto
      @Dustrunnersauto  5 лет назад +2

      That video might be coming in the near future 😉

    • @AB-80X
      @AB-80X 5 лет назад

      @@maalmull
      Junk?
      We now know that you don't know the first thing about either engine.
      Move along Skippy.

    • @jpscharged
      @jpscharged 5 лет назад +1

      Know Bull5hit beefier internals on the LT4 only. LT1 is the same as LS3 for internal’s strength. If you’re not running meth injection on the New LT series engines the the valves will get dirtied up pretty quick.

  • @pressmore1
    @pressmore1 5 лет назад +1

    Man this guy knows his stuff

  • @paulsjunkcars
    @paulsjunkcars 5 лет назад

    Good video.

  • @Godemes
    @Godemes 5 лет назад +3

    LS3 > LS1/LS6
    The only LS1 variation that holds a candle to the LS3 is the 5.3 & 4.8 truck motors.
    They are heavier but they can take the abuse of forced induction, and they are CHEAP.
    LS1/LS6 NA = 450-500 rwhp max
    LS1/LS6 FI = 550-600 rwhp max I haven't seen any LS1 engines make over 600 rwhp and not break.
    5.3 / 4.8 FI = 700-750 rwhp max Pushing 750+ is when they fail
    LS3 NA = 500-550 rwhp max
    LS3 FI = 630-680 rwhp max Pushing further is when they fail
    The only reason you end up with a LS1/LS6 is because the vehicle you have came with it.
    If money was no object, you buy a LS3 or LSX block.
    If money is tight, you do what you can with your LS1/LS6 till it blows up. Then you go get yourself a 5.3 for $500, spend $1,500 making it "bullet proof", then spend $5,000+ on forced induction.

    • @SkypowerwithKarl
      @SkypowerwithKarl 5 лет назад

      Danger Noodle What entails “bulletproofing” a 5.3?

    • @Godemes
      @Godemes 5 лет назад

      @@SkypowerwithKarl Replacing rods & pistons and bearings, honing the cylinders, proper gapping of the piston rings for forced induction.

    • @SkypowerwithKarl
      @SkypowerwithKarl 5 лет назад

      Thanks man!

    • @guerrerok90
      @guerrerok90 5 лет назад

      A 5.3 makin 700!hp is just a ticking time bomb

  • @sonnysouthon1963
    @sonnysouthon1963 5 лет назад +3

    I'm all LS1 all day