I have never ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever understood all of the hate this movie gets. Every set piece was well thought-out and crafted. The score succeeds in weaving each storyline of the film together and adds a lot of weight in needed areas. Lots of memorable moments from start to finish. I dig it.
American audiences went to see the sequel to a movie they loved which, for them, was literally named “The ROAD warrior”, featuring a character largely defined by his relationship with his car, and by his skills as a combative driver of vehicles. It’s also one of the greatest vehicular stunt movies of all time. That sets up certain expectations. What they saw was a movie which has precisely zero roads in it, and in which that lead character never even sits behind the wheel of a motor vehicle until the last five minutes of the movie, and then only for a few brief moments. His primary form of locomotion though-out the movie is, instead, his own two feet. There’s a whole lot of walking in this movie, and hardly any driving. THAT’s why it’s rated so lowly by Max fans - because it was judged by the standards of the movie it wasn’t, instead of being understood and appreciated for the movie it is, which (despite the obligatory chase at the end) is categorically NOT a car movie.
I thought it was badly rated because it starts off as a Mad Max movie, but then the plot falls apart inside the Thunderdome, and the movie turns into a Peter Pan / Ewok scene I couldnt give two shits about driving on roads, or stunts. I wanted character developement, but we got a characterized seizure of George Miller.
Everyone I know loves the movie until the kids show up. I think they have an “Ewok” effect for most people, and truthfully it’s the weirdest part of the series. The symbolism you described in the video helps make it make more sense but it’s still quite a tonal shift I think. Not enough to make it a bad movie though.
I would think the tonal shift starts at the reveal of the Down's Syndrome man. It's pretty hard to mash about eight or ten things together. Interesting to me that Miller tried this again in Mad Max 4, when they run into the old ladies out in the desert. I have to wonder why that, to a bunch of critics, doesn't seem a tonal problem, whereas I thought it was just weird.
@@LearningaboutMovies I think it’s not a problem because the old ladies were foreshadowed better. We knew Furiosa was looking for something (the “green place”) and the old ladies were the fulfillment of that something. Plus that final action sequence was pretty cool. Of course I haven’t seen Mad Max 3 in a while so I could be forgetting if/how that movie foreshadowed anything. I do remember really liking the final action scene in that movie too though.
Great review. Tina Turner was a scene stealer. What a dress. Also, I love the quotes in this movie. 'Two men enter, one man leave" and "bust a deal, face the wheel." Also "Who rule bartertown?" The soundtrack to this film is most memorable and under-appreciated . Everyone knows Tina's hits but the soundtrack by Maurice Jarre really takes you back there . e.g. ruclips.net/video/zx5yU0uFPHo/видео.html
I find what you said about Bartertown interesting, because an entirely material based society of commerce is basically what our current rulers push on us in our post-Christian society. Whether Marxism or the free market, both systems have materialism as the center. A society like that cannot survive because it has no purpose beyond itself.
I love Mad Max 2. And I do like the first half of Beyond Thunderdome. But I always found my focus drifting once the 'lost children' arc started. However, your thoughts on this film are interesting and may lead to me reapprasing this third installment of a pretty great trilogy overall.
The original Max trilogy if anything is about the fall and the rise of order. The first movie: order is falling The second movie: No law and order The third movie: Return to law and order and societal codes.
I also did not understand the direction after spinning the wheel. It said Gulag and I thought it was gonna turn into a prison heist. But they just put a silly head on him and exile him on a horse for him to end up with the Lost Boys. Why even send the kids to Bartertown?
The fact that it went from a nihilistic grim landscape to a "Meet the Fallout Goonies" ending was anti-climactic. Some great elements which ultimate fall short. I was its target audience back at the time it was. released and it was underwhelming to say the least, compared to the two previous installments.
Keep communicating with RUclips about the demonetization. Another channel I follow was demonetized, but after several days of back and forth, RUclips restored monetization. The channel still lost the money from those days, but they are back in business again. Very good review of a movie that I have loved since I saw it in the theater last millenium. Looking forward to watching more of your videos soon.
Fantastic analysis :) I only saw the movie about 3 years ago by chance but I definitely felt that some of the themes of the movie which you talk about in this video spoke to me.
I've always had trouble with this movie because of its use slapstick and comedic action. It's just a tonal mess for me and it's kept my enjoyment at bay, even after several viewings. I feel they were shooting for a PG-13 in the model of something like Temple of Doom, but never quite finding their legs.
I thought that tonal switching was somewhat intentional. The conflict between to different visions of a new society (bartertown vs kidsville). Bartertown is certainly the most familiar within Mad Max franchise, but the kids provides a counterpoint to show that humans (and human societies) aren't ALWAYS just greedy and violent. They can be generous, egalitarian, and even whimsical. It's a choice. What kind of world do we want to live in? And there's even a suggestion that the whimsical/mystical approach to life has some sort of invisible or metaphysical power that can overcome the drab soulless, purely pragmatic approach. Because in a way, the kids prophesy did come true. Captain walker (Mad max) did get them on a plane to tomorrow morrow land. No it wasn't like they expected exactly but perhaps there's something deeper at work, aiding this more beautiful vision of humanity. Anyways I loved it all.
I do like Thunderdome a lot actually i watch it more than the other Max films Maybe it is because of the world created here as you said how influential the film is. Out of all the original films, Thunderdome probably has influenced more properties than Road Warrior The big change is the calamity being nuclear fallout than gas wars
I will always say this about the movie. “Its a good movie, just not a good mad max movie” If they would of recast Mel and just called the movie “beyond thunderdome” it wouldn’t be as talked about as it is but i feel it would be a beloved cult classic.
I don't think it's better than Mad Max 2, and maybe not even better than Mad Max. But it's still great. Most fans would cite the obvious toned down violence and more "Hollywood" feel of the film as the biggest issue. I kinda agree, but not to the detriment of the overall film. It does have softer, sanded down edges compared the gritty, raw, and rough first two - but it still retains most of the texture and allure the first film creates and this time on a grander canvas. Beyond Thunderdome is easily one of the best realized worlds in 80s genre film. A post-apocalyptic Peter Pan film, Beyond Thunderdome is. The action is still EXPERTLY crafted and the cast is stacked with memorable characters and performances. Mad Max is about the world falling apart. Mad Max 2 is about a broken world. Mad Max 3 is about a world slowly healing. The less violent nature is in service of the more optimistic themes and outlook of the film, so I can't really knock it for being a bit more polished and "light" when that was the intention the entire time.
Great movie 🎬 i loved Road warrior also the first Mad Max movie to me is so good because its kinda bad. The bad guys in the first movies just made me laugh 😂 and it was filmed 🎥 in Australia which was different to see back then.
In a world inundated with streaming services and blockbuster franchises, where CGI spectacles and explosions often take center stage, "Learning about Movies" emerges as a thought-provoking and soul-stirring odyssey into the heart of cinema. This documentary, directed by a masterful filmmaker, transcends the boundaries of conventional entertainment, inviting viewers to embark on a transformative exploration of the seventh art. From the opening montage, a symphony of flickering frames and iconic scenes, the screen becomes a portal to a mesmerizing universe where images and narratives interweave, shaping our collective consciousness. The director's passion for movies radiates through every frame, his love letter to the medium enveloping the audience in a warm embrace from the very first shot. Guided by a captivating narrator with a voice that resonates with wisdom and nostalgia, we delve into the rich tapestry of film history. The documentary unfolds like a captivating detective story, peeling back layers of the cinematic past to reveal the artistry and vision behind our favorite movies. From the pioneers of silent films to the trailblazers of the New Wave, every chapter is a treasure trove of insight and revelation. "Learning about Movies" deftly balances historical context with analysis, intertwining interviews with renowned directors, screenwriters, and actors. These masters of their craft share anecdotes and reflections that provide an intimate glimpse into the creative process, leaving us hungry for more. Their stories inspire us, reminding us of the indelible impact cinema has on our lives, society, and culture. As the documentary progresses, it delves into the technical aspects of filmmaking. With precision and clarity, the director elucidates the magic of cinematography, editing, and sound design, unraveling the alchemy that breathes life into the moving image. Through mesmerizing montages and expert analysis, we witness the evolution of cinematic language, from the pioneering use of shadows to the breathtaking long takes that defy gravity and conventional storytelling. The documentary is not without its share of controversy and debate. As we explore the power and responsibility of movies to shape our worldview, we confront uncomfortable truths and explore the boundaries of artistic expression. The director fearlessly tackles the complexities of representation, challenging us to question our own biases and perceptions. It is through this critical lens that "Learning about Movies" transcends mere entertainment, becoming a catalyst for societal introspection. Visually, the video is a symphony of images, meticulously curated and skillfully edited. Each frame feels like a canvas, showcasing the beauty of the medium in all its glory. The cinematography captures the essence of iconic films, evoking emotions and memories that transcend time and space. The meticulous attention to detail transports us to the very heart of the movies we cherish, allowing us to relive those moments that have left an indelible mark on our souls. In conclusion, "Learning about Movies" is a captivating, enlightening, and immersive cinematic experience. With its passionate director at the helm, the documentary celebrates the power of storytelling and the enduring legacy of film. It reminds us that movies are not merely an escape from reality but a reflection of the human condition, a mirror that illuminates our dreams, fears, and aspirations. Whether you are a cinephile or a casual viewer, this documentary will leave an indelible mark on your cinematic journey, forever altering the way you perceive the magic that unfolds on the silver screen. Rating: ★★★★★ (5/5)
I don't put the newest Mad Max with the original 3. I really didn't think there was anything special with the new movie just alot of makeup on an soulless body
Fury road will get better because it's the ending. Furiosa just came out showing her 18 years leading up to fury road and there will be a max movie showing his year leading up to fury road so once the trilogy is complete fury road will have a soul
I have never ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever understood all of the hate this movie gets. Every set piece was well thought-out and crafted. The score succeeds in weaving each storyline of the film together and adds a lot of weight in needed areas. Lots of memorable moments from start to finish. I dig it.
People put this movie down… but it definitely has the most quotable catchphrases of any Mad Max film!
I saw this on the big screen back to back, me and my friends stayed in our seats to see it again because we had so much fun.
likewise 💯👌🏽
American audiences went to see the sequel to a movie they loved which, for them, was literally named “The ROAD warrior”, featuring a character largely defined by his relationship with his car, and by his skills as a combative driver of vehicles. It’s also one of the greatest vehicular stunt movies of all time. That sets up certain expectations.
What they saw was a movie which has precisely zero roads in it, and in which that lead character never even sits behind the wheel of a motor vehicle until the last five minutes of the movie, and then only for a few brief moments. His primary form of locomotion though-out the movie is, instead, his own two feet. There’s a whole lot of walking in this movie, and hardly any driving.
THAT’s why it’s rated so lowly by Max fans - because it was judged by the standards of the movie it wasn’t, instead of being understood and appreciated for the movie it is, which (despite the obligatory chase at the end) is categorically NOT a car movie.
I thought it was badly rated because it starts off as a Mad Max movie, but then the plot falls apart inside the Thunderdome, and the movie turns into a Peter Pan / Ewok scene
I couldnt give two shits about driving on roads, or stunts. I wanted character developement, but we got a characterized seizure of George Miller.
"...the before time." I use this quote all the time and no one gets it. So frustrating. lol.
Everyone I know loves the movie until the kids show up. I think they have an “Ewok” effect for most people, and truthfully it’s the weirdest part of the series. The symbolism you described in the video helps make it make more sense but it’s still quite a tonal shift I think. Not enough to make it a bad movie though.
I would think the tonal shift starts at the reveal of the Down's Syndrome man. It's pretty hard to mash about eight or ten things together. Interesting to me that Miller tried this again in Mad Max 4, when they run into the old ladies out in the desert. I have to wonder why that, to a bunch of critics, doesn't seem a tonal problem, whereas I thought it was just weird.
@@LearningaboutMovies I think it’s not a problem because the old ladies were foreshadowed better. We knew Furiosa was looking for something (the “green place”) and the old ladies were the fulfillment of that something. Plus that final action sequence was pretty cool.
Of course I haven’t seen Mad Max 3 in a while so I could be forgetting if/how that movie foreshadowed anything. I do remember really liking the final action scene in that movie too though.
Great review. Tina Turner was a scene stealer. What a dress. Also, I love the quotes in this movie. 'Two men enter, one man leave" and "bust a deal, face the wheel." Also "Who rule bartertown?" The soundtrack to this film is most memorable and under-appreciated . Everyone knows Tina's hits but the soundtrack by Maurice Jarre really takes you back there . e.g. ruclips.net/video/zx5yU0uFPHo/видео.html
How could you over look the Tina Turner hit "we don't need another hero" from the soundtrack?
I went to see this movie SIX TIMES in the theater!!
I think this is my 3rd favorite of the 4 Mad Max movies. I like them all, but I’m probably in the minority in thinking I like Fury Road the least.
Agreed, without Mel it ain't Mad Max.
I find what you said about Bartertown interesting, because an entirely material based society of commerce is basically what our current rulers push on us in our post-Christian society. Whether Marxism or the free market, both systems have materialism as the center. A society like that cannot survive because it has no purpose beyond itself.
Its my favorite of the series with the Road Warrior a close second
I love Mad Max 2. And I do like the first half of Beyond Thunderdome. But I always found my focus drifting once the 'lost children' arc started. However, your thoughts on this film are interesting and may lead to me reapprasing this third installment of a pretty great trilogy overall.
The original Max trilogy if anything is about the fall and the rise of order.
The first movie: order is falling
The second movie:
No law and order
The third movie:
Return to law and order and societal codes.
you are right
Need to rewatch this!
I also did not understand the direction after spinning the wheel. It said Gulag and I thought it was gonna turn into a prison heist.
But they just put a silly head on him and exile him on a horse for him to end up with the Lost Boys. Why even send the kids to Bartertown?
My random ranking:
1. Road Warrior
2. Beyond Thunderdome
3. Fury Road
4. Mad Max
So it's Clear the Mad Max Saga, is a Masterpiece.
The fact that it went from a nihilistic grim landscape to a "Meet the Fallout Goonies" ending was anti-climactic. Some great elements which ultimate fall short. I was its target audience back at the time it was. released and it was underwhelming to say the least, compared to the two previous installments.
The best in the series - loved it. And then there was part four... Oh dear!
Keep communicating with RUclips about the demonetization. Another channel I follow was demonetized, but after several days of back and forth, RUclips restored monetization. The channel still lost the money from those days, but they are back in business again. Very good review of a movie that I have loved since I saw it in the theater last millenium. Looking forward to watching more of your videos soon.
In the Mad Max 2 video, you also said it influenced Fallout.. but what about Borderlands?
Fantastic analysis :) I only saw the movie about 3 years ago by chance but I definitely felt that some of the themes of the movie which you talk about in this video spoke to me.
It’s my favorite of the Mad Max movies, no question.
I agree with Ebert!
Great review. Thanks!
I've always had trouble with this movie because of its use slapstick and comedic action. It's just a tonal mess for me and it's kept my enjoyment at bay, even after several viewings. I feel they were shooting for a PG-13 in the model of something like Temple of Doom, but never quite finding their legs.
I thought that tonal switching was somewhat intentional. The conflict between to different visions of a new society (bartertown vs kidsville).
Bartertown is certainly the most familiar within Mad Max franchise, but the kids provides a counterpoint to show that humans (and human societies) aren't ALWAYS just greedy and violent. They can be generous, egalitarian, and even whimsical. It's a choice. What kind of world do we want to live in? And there's even a suggestion that the whimsical/mystical approach to life has some sort of invisible or metaphysical power that can overcome the drab soulless, purely pragmatic approach. Because in a way, the kids prophesy did come true. Captain walker (Mad max) did get them on a plane to tomorrow morrow land. No it wasn't like they expected exactly but perhaps there's something deeper at work, aiding this more beautiful vision of humanity.
Anyways I loved it all.
@@LeviRealize I hear ya buddy 👍
It seems to me that 'Copilot' is a War Boy because of his similar face paint.
I do like Thunderdome a lot actually i watch it more than the other Max films
Maybe it is because of the world created here as you said how influential the film is. Out of all the original films, Thunderdome probably has influenced more properties than Road Warrior
The big change is the calamity being nuclear fallout than gas wars
I will always say this about the movie.
“Its a good movie, just not a good mad max movie”
If they would of recast Mel and just called the movie “beyond thunderdome” it wouldn’t be as talked about as it is but i feel it would be a beloved cult classic.
C-c-c-cities…!
Highscrapers
Pockyclypse
MRS WALKER
What’s not to like?!?
I didn't like thunderdome without the highways !
I don't think it's better than Mad Max 2, and maybe not even better than Mad Max. But it's still great. Most fans would cite the obvious toned down violence and more "Hollywood" feel of the film as the biggest issue. I kinda agree, but not to the detriment of the overall film.
It does have softer, sanded down edges compared the gritty, raw, and rough first two - but it still retains most of the texture and allure the first film creates and this time on a grander canvas. Beyond Thunderdome is easily one of the best realized worlds in 80s genre film. A post-apocalyptic Peter Pan film, Beyond Thunderdome is.
The action is still EXPERTLY crafted and the cast is stacked with memorable characters and performances. Mad Max is about the world falling apart. Mad Max 2 is about a broken world. Mad Max 3 is about a world slowly healing.
The less violent nature is in service of the more optimistic themes and outlook of the film, so I can't really knock it for being a bit more polished and "light" when that was the intention the entire time.
So every night we does the tell, everything marked, everything ‘membered.
80s classic love to see furiosa do thunderdom
so you’re saying it’s due for a “reboot”
It’s kinda like some Cure fans, they only like the dark shit. You throw out love cats and they get enraged.
I definitely agree can agree with you 👍
Great movie 🎬 i loved Road warrior also the first Mad Max movie to me is so good because its kinda bad. The bad guys in the first movies just made me laugh 😂 and it was filmed 🎥 in Australia which was different to see back then.
I actually liked the 2nd part more lol
In a world inundated with streaming services and blockbuster franchises, where CGI spectacles and explosions often take center stage, "Learning about Movies" emerges as a thought-provoking and soul-stirring odyssey into the heart of cinema. This documentary, directed by a masterful filmmaker, transcends the boundaries of conventional entertainment, inviting viewers to embark on a transformative exploration of the seventh art.
From the opening montage, a symphony of flickering frames and iconic scenes, the screen becomes a portal to a mesmerizing universe where images and narratives interweave, shaping our collective consciousness. The director's passion for movies radiates through every frame, his love letter to the medium enveloping the audience in a warm embrace from the very first shot.
Guided by a captivating narrator with a voice that resonates with wisdom and nostalgia, we delve into the rich tapestry of film history. The documentary unfolds like a captivating detective story, peeling back layers of the cinematic past to reveal the artistry and vision behind our favorite movies. From the pioneers of silent films to the trailblazers of the New Wave, every chapter is a treasure trove of insight and revelation.
"Learning about Movies" deftly balances historical context with analysis, intertwining interviews with renowned directors, screenwriters, and actors. These masters of their craft share anecdotes and reflections that provide an intimate glimpse into the creative process, leaving us hungry for more. Their stories inspire us, reminding us of the indelible impact cinema has on our lives, society, and culture.
As the documentary progresses, it delves into the technical aspects of filmmaking. With precision and clarity, the director elucidates the magic of cinematography, editing, and sound design, unraveling the alchemy that breathes life into the moving image. Through mesmerizing montages and expert analysis, we witness the evolution of cinematic language, from the pioneering use of shadows to the breathtaking long takes that defy gravity and conventional storytelling.
The documentary is not without its share of controversy and debate. As we explore the power and responsibility of movies to shape our worldview, we confront uncomfortable truths and explore the boundaries of artistic expression. The director fearlessly tackles the complexities of representation, challenging us to question our own biases and perceptions. It is through this critical lens that "Learning about Movies" transcends mere entertainment, becoming a catalyst for societal introspection.
Visually, the video is a symphony of images, meticulously curated and skillfully edited. Each frame feels like a canvas, showcasing the beauty of the medium in all its glory. The cinematography captures the essence of iconic films, evoking emotions and memories that transcend time and space. The meticulous attention to detail transports us to the very heart of the movies we cherish, allowing us to relive those moments that have left an indelible mark on our souls.
In conclusion, "Learning about Movies" is a captivating, enlightening, and immersive cinematic experience. With its passionate director at the helm, the documentary celebrates the power of storytelling and the enduring legacy of film. It reminds us that movies are not merely an escape from reality but a reflection of the human condition, a mirror that illuminates our dreams, fears, and aspirations. Whether you are a cinephile or a casual viewer, this documentary will leave an indelible mark on your cinematic journey, forever altering the way you perceive the magic that unfolds on the silver screen.
Rating: ★★★★★ (5/5)
Jesus ‘tap-dancin’ Christ. ✝️
@@Fullmetal_christo Looks like it's been written by AI.
First half of Thunderdome is great, second half sucks.
1&2 were great, the rest are just, Mediocre!
I don't put the newest Mad Max with the original 3. I really didn't think there was anything special with the new movie just alot of makeup on an soulless body
Don't put the original 3 with each other. The Man With No Name is essentially the same character in stories with no solid continuity. So is Max.
Fury road will get better because it's the ending. Furiosa just came out showing her 18 years leading up to fury road and there will be a max movie showing his year leading up to fury road so once the trilogy is complete fury road will have a soul
I HATED THIS MOVIE SO MUCH , the first 2 were great though
Fury road story should replaced thunderdome would had made a great trilogy!