As a owner of a Magnuson 2650 TVS aka VMP Odin on my 21 GT. I'm glad to see that Roush decided to work with Magnuson and carry on this line of supercharger. It seems to make nearly identical power to the Odin with the Twin jet throttle body on the Gen 3 coyote and the TVS whine at higher rpm's is music to the ears. Roush did a excellent job of making the unit look like it's a factory optioned unit that's a nice car You have. i'm guessing 10.30s to 10.40s on the dragpak in the heat.
@@traekiser213 that is absolutely the truth most people don't realize that tho, they think if the whine is louder it must be boosting more lmao, not at all the case as you know
Always nice to see a true, stock 2024 dyno with just the blower. I did this with a customers DH as well, bone stock 1000 miles, 93oct with a stage 2 Whipple, 677whp. Customer wasn't too happy because of all the fake stock dyno Whipple cars out there. These numbers seem much more on par, and realistic. Kills me that some are claiming "pump gas" but throwing in octane boost, 100oct, or E20-E30 E85. The Roush looks much more promising for the '24, prior years where dudes with IAT issues.
Correct that is way we state facts. Clients like to find the highest HP video and expect that to be them. Not the way it works. Sorry your client was not happy but that is what happens when those types of videos come out. They much of the time dont pay attention to the small "tricks" that are used.
I will be straight with you. Brenspeed is very good company. They listened to what you have questions about and work with you. When I first got into the tuner / supercharger scene, I had Evolution Performance work on my car. Evolution is very sneaky, not honest and try to cheat you in my opinion.
lol no tricks ❤ it . I’m so glad we have another option. That intake system looks so much better than the Whipple one. Thank you for the honest facts cheers .
300 extra horsepower is wild from such a plain kit, I wonder what it’d do with e85, pulley swap, upgraded cooling, intake filter and tube swap, and full catless exhaust 👀
@@BrenspeedEngineering you do 79 foxbody cars? I have a mint one I am torn if I want to do suspension and big brakes, but if you do them ill send car down. Im in ill.. thx dan
Hardly... It's making less power than stage 1 which is 11 psi for the Whipple... Stage 2 is a hair over 12 psi and does 750s... Not sure why they'd be punching the air for out performing this, at the same price point...
@@coreyschuette4897hey dummy, those numbers were skewed to sell you a product. Roush 24s have ran 10.3-10.5. American muscle just took their stage 2 whipple which according to you is so much better, aannnnnnnnnd 10.5-10.6.-10.70. Back to back to back passes. Losing 1/10th and 2mph per pass. Imagine.
QUESTION! Im thinking of getting a dark horse and doing a supercharger right away. Roush states it reuses the factory intake. Does this mean I can put a cold air intake on the car for even more whine? Whipple has the comp intake which im assuming doesnt require tuning since these cars are locked.
Stock clutch would last a while. We normally switch it over to a Mcleod RXT twin disk at some point. The trans is normally fine but that is based off how you drive and how hard you are on the trans.
I don't think it's gonna be unlocked it's not a matter of unlocking anything unless Ford just decides one day ok we're gonna give access to tuning for anyone who wants it. I don't see that happening. It's Ford approved stuff for the s650 guys. If you wanna mod you bought the wrong car.
So 700, around about, HP but Roush advertises 810 on the Stage 2. What am I missing? I'm interested in getting this to keep my twin throttle bodies but at the same time the power doesn't seem to be as consistant as Whipple. Am I missing something? (Honest question, not trolling)
Hi Roush and others advertise flywheel HP just like Ford does when you buy the car. Our dyno is a rear wheel horsepower dyno which means you are seeing actual numbers going to the ground after drivetrain loss. So the rear wheel will never be what the flywheel rated power is.
After months of testing to me it is down to appearance. Both perform on the track and dyno. I like keeping the dual throttle body but that is just my preference.
If you mean keep the warranty, you would need a kit that has a warranty which this one does. It is not through Ford although Ford can honor it and deal with the insurance company that offers it.
If tuning is relatively the same right now and you are not really going to the track. I would get this wayyyhyy before a quiet ass Whipple especially with the dual throttle body Instead of that aborting of an intake the Whipple has.
"SAE" as it should be! No boostane, little hidden mods or "STD" conversion B.S. like these other shops that are trying to pull one over on people to make a sale!!! This supercharger or brand x supercharger on around 12 psi is no where close to being maxed out, I wouldn't expect to see more than a few horsepower difference between one or the other in a true un-biased test. One is definitely not out performing the other by 50 horsepower at such a low PSI of boost in a true head to head test.
Thanks for taking the time to watch. We don't typically have that issue on an auto leaving at idle on sticky tires. Stick cars on sticky tires... different story.
Yea with headers, no cats, full exhaust, octane booster and more boost sure they 100+ more. They didn't make much at all more on a stock car like this is on 93. Do they even make more at all? I don't think so.
@@lucasrossi716 There's a good chance IMO that Roush will have a "stage 3" package as well. Bigger injectors, bigger TBs and perhaps for the 1st time, a fuel pump system upgrade! This is being optimistic, but it can absolutely happen.
@@FitzCityGarage i think for future bigger power wipple its better for 1000whp little pulley, e85 and fuelling... the tvs are always limited, and we know the tvs are hot soak much more.. buts lets see
@@FitzCityGarage this stage 2 have bigger injectors i downloaded the manual and check.... ..but whipple make 50whp more from outbox... butt... its a nice option
Check out the DRAG STRIP VIDEO of this 24 running 9's ruclips.net/video/MoQtCLqpqO4/видео.html
Dr Bren Speed the Dyno King! Luv it.
Best free advertisement for roush, no bs , no octane booster , stock cats stock exhaust , thumbs up 👍
The way I like to do it. Thanks
That’s the way a Supercharger should look and sound. Roush still knows what the customer wants
oh yes! It's all about the whine. Great job, Roush!
@@not1but2and37 the whole kit is better lol. It’s about time roush one ups whipple, roush has been terrible until this kit came out.
For sure thanks!
Sounds better than the whipple, looks better than the whipple.
Thanks for taking the time to watch!
Great video! Straight to the point, no tricks or shenanigans, and completely transparent.
Love it, can't wait for track times!
Thank you!
Sick! A real dyno in the proper SAE setting. THESE ARE REAL NUMBERS PEOPLE!
For sure. Thank you!
As a owner of a Magnuson 2650 TVS aka VMP Odin on my 21 GT. I'm glad to see that Roush decided to work with Magnuson and carry on this line of supercharger. It seems to make nearly identical power to the Odin with the Twin jet throttle body on the Gen 3 coyote and the TVS whine at higher rpm's is music to the ears. Roush did a excellent job of making the unit look like it's a factory optioned unit that's a nice car You have. i'm guessing 10.30s to 10.40s on the dragpak in the heat.
It turned out to be a very nice kit for sure
That’s an awesome blower it’s nice to finally see it on the dyno
Yes it is. Thanks!
Thanks for actually showing true power numbers so that customers know what to expect out of the box. No tricks like others.
I prefer that rather than getting your hopes up and you get disappointed. Thanks!
Brent always bringing us the latest and greatest 🔥 😎🤜🤛
I try! Thanks
Pulley down headers and some more octane should make 800 easy
We did that ran 9.97 in the newer videos. Thanks!
That's a home run! That's how you take some Whipple customers with the dual throttle body's and the sound they lack
They lack sound because they make more boost more efficiently. Supercharger whine is restriction. Whipple doesn’t make noise, it makes more power.
I like it. Thanks!
@@traekiser213 that is absolutely the truth most people don't realize that tho, they think if the whine is louder it must be boosting more lmao, not at all the case as you know
Brenspeed rocks ---> 👉💪
Thank you!
I like this roush kit over the whipple tbh
Thanks for the comment!
Using the dual intake unlike Whipple
I like the dual set up. Thanks!
Y’a Brent track time can’t wait that Roush supercharger look awesome and make great hp&tq. Thanks!😊
9.97 in the newer videos. Turned out great.
Just came across your channel , honesty is cool 😎
Subscribed
Thank you very much!
Thank you Brenspeed!
Not a problem!
Always nice to see a true, stock 2024 dyno with just the blower. I did this with a customers DH as well, bone stock 1000 miles, 93oct with a stage 2 Whipple, 677whp. Customer wasn't too happy because of all the fake stock dyno Whipple cars out there. These numbers seem much more on par, and realistic. Kills me that some are claiming "pump gas" but throwing in octane boost, 100oct, or E20-E30 E85. The Roush looks much more promising for the '24, prior years where dudes with IAT issues.
Correct that is way we state facts. Clients like to find the highest HP video and expect that to be them. Not the way it works. Sorry your client was not happy but that is what happens when those types of videos come out. They much of the time dont pay attention to the small "tricks" that are used.
I will be straight with you. Brenspeed is very good company. They listened to what you have questions about and work with you. When I first got into the tuner / supercharger scene, I had Evolution Performance work on my car. Evolution is very sneaky, not honest and try to cheat you in my opinion.
Thanks for the comment
Great video! A lot of people waiting on this. Appreciate the detail, and the blower sounds great!
No problem thanks!
lol no tricks ❤ it . I’m so glad we have another option. That intake system looks so much better than the Whipple one. Thank you for the honest facts cheers .
I like that intake set up also thanks.
300 extra horsepower is wild from such a plain kit, I wonder what it’d do with e85, pulley swap, upgraded cooling, intake filter and tube swap, and full catless exhaust 👀
Close your eyes sounds like hellcat..thats a great sound.. makes great power. Great video as always.. Get a cool drink and chill you look gassed..✌
Thank you!
@@BrenspeedEngineering you do 79 foxbody cars? I have a mint one I am torn if I want to do suspension and big brakes, but if you do them ill send car down. Im in ill.. thx dan
procharger will launch stg1 and 2 kit start in september , ! will wait for it ! :D
Thanks for watching and we will be reviewing that kit soon.
Wow! Very nice! 🇺🇸
Thank you!
Awesome! I've got a local company that makes clear lids for those air filter boxes!
Cool thanks!
@@BrenspeedEngineeringand now Roush offers them as well!
One word “Damn!”
exactly lol
Nice. No bs I like it!
Appreciate you watching!
Looking and sounding very good.✌️
It does thanks!
Perfect car
Its a great car thank you!
imaging work on that pulley :D
Thanks for checking it out!
Can’t wait to see this blower with e85 and free flowing exhaust, Dustin whipple is probably crapping his pants ,
Thanks for watching!
I wonder what this would make with Steeda's custom intake/air filters.
Not sure but would likely be a good purchase for the price.
Vmp and whipple punching air lol
Hardly... It's making less power than stage 1 which is 11 psi for the Whipple... Stage 2 is a hair over 12 psi and does 750s... Not sure why they'd be punching the air for out performing this, at the same price point...
@@coreyschuette4897 you forgot to mention no cats and octane booster
@@coreyschuette4897hey dummy, those numbers were skewed to sell you a product. Roush 24s have ran 10.3-10.5. American muscle just took their stage 2 whipple which according to you is so much better, aannnnnnnnnd 10.5-10.6.-10.70. Back to back to back passes. Losing 1/10th and 2mph per pass. Imagine.
Thank s for watching!
Very cool, but dual throttle bodies really make me want to see twin turbskis
Thanks for the comment!
I need this 🤤
DO IT lol
Nice 👍
Thank you!
curios to see what this makes on a little bit of e and headers
ruclips.net/video/ktNMKRcWJUU/видео.htmlfeature=shared
Best Line No tricks. Unlike Whipple Shinnanigans 😂😂😂
Love no tricks, then adding tricks and saying I did it. Thanks.
Looks the same as my Odin. Mine is in E85 and a 3.2 pulley and doesn’t whine like that at all. At least not from inside the car.
Thanks for the comment!
Looks like it's meant for that engine bay.
It does!
QUESTION! Im thinking of getting a dark horse and doing a supercharger right away. Roush states it reuses the factory intake. Does this mean I can put a cold air intake on the car for even more whine? Whipple has the comp intake which im assuming doesnt require tuning since these cars are locked.
In theory yes or you could remove the lids and run high flow filters for more noise.
Thanks for making this video, How long will a stock clutch hold up if at all? will the ford manual transmission hold up?
Stock clutch would last a while. We normally switch it over to a Mcleod RXT twin disk at some point. The trans is normally fine but that is based off how you drive and how hard you are on the trans.
Thanks, last question, is there a tower brace that will fit in the stock hood?@@BrenspeedEngineering
Now we just need tuning to be unlocked. Ford will sell so many more if tuning becomes available.
I don't think it's gonna be unlocked it's not a matter of unlocking anything unless Ford just decides one day ok we're gonna give access to tuning for anyone who wants it. I don't see that happening. It's Ford approved stuff for the s650 guys. If you wanna mod you bought the wrong car.
@@midnight347 you underestimate programmers and software engineers.
Maybe some day but I have not heard of anything close yet to getting unlocked.
R.I.P. Whipple
Thanks for watching!
What's Fords view on this package regarding warranty with respect to the whipple option?
Both offer warranty. I am pretty sure though the Roush warranty is double the coverage of the Whipple.
Sweet..👍🏻….😎
FOR SURE IT IS
So 700, around about, HP but Roush advertises 810 on the Stage 2. What am I missing? I'm interested in getting this to keep my twin throttle bodies but at the same time the power doesn't seem to be as consistant as Whipple. Am I missing something? (Honest question, not trolling)
Hi Roush and others advertise flywheel HP just like Ford does when you buy the car. Our dyno is a rear wheel horsepower dyno which means you are seeing actual numbers going to the ground after drivetrain loss. So the rear wheel will never be what the flywheel rated power is.
Now, how do you deal with the traction issues. Can you control the hp per gear, especially lower gears?
You can control it just need to use the pedal buddy!
Whipple has to eat crow
Thanks for watching!
Whipple vs Roush ? What do you think is better bren
After months of testing to me it is down to appearance. Both perform on the track and dyno. I like keeping the dual throttle body but that is just my preference.
Have the fixed the intercooler problem the 2650 had? My 19 Roush truck has the most unreliable power due to heat soak
Yes, think of this as an Odin with two throttle bodies
100% different design, yes. Thanks!
this blower might actually save the s650
Thanks for watching!
no octane booster like all these whipple videos?! LOL great video
Thank you
Is roush available for CA yet?
Yes it is thanks
@@BrenspeedEngineering replying to a 2 month old comment...legend
2.65 supercharger.
It will make 1100/1200 when it's unlocked.
Thanks for the comment!
So, can the 2024 be modded as long as Ford sells it?
If you mean keep the warranty, you would need a kit that has a warranty which this one does. It is not through Ford although Ford can honor it and deal with the insurance company that offers it.
@@BrenspeedEngineering Don't mean to be misinformed but I was told you couldn't change the ECM on these new Stangs when they first came out.
just got mine!!….in csr2😭
Thanks for watching!
If tuning is relatively the same right now and you are not really going to the track. I would get this wayyyhyy before a quiet ass Whipple especially with the dual throttle body Instead of that aborting of an intake the Whipple has.
I like both but my I prefer the dual throttle body set up for sure.
So is that 10,000 included installation?
Nope, That's $9,995+ Labor
No
about $3500 labor
That is the price of the kit, not installed.
"SAE" as it should be! No boostane, little hidden mods or "STD" conversion B.S. like these other shops that are trying to pull one over on people to make a sale!!! This supercharger or brand x supercharger on around 12 psi is no where close to being maxed out, I wouldn't expect to see more than a few horsepower difference between one or the other in a true un-biased test. One is definitely not out performing the other by 50 horsepower at such a low PSI of boost in a true head to head test.
ive only ever seen shops use sae
Thanks for commenting!
Axles will be the first thing to break
Thanks for taking the time to watch. We don't typically have that issue on an auto leaving at idle on sticky tires. Stick cars on sticky tires... different story.
@@BrenspeedEngineering true. My 2015 Roush rs3 is a stick car. And have snapped a 1200hp halfshaft. Hahaha
People still haven’t realized “the whine” is the 50-60 HP loss.
How so? 😂
@@mattjingles5758go watch Alejandro Flores’ live stream abut it and you have question answered. Supercharger whine is not a good thing bro.
Exactly, it’s literally the sound of inefficiencies
@commycomentor9695 if it's still making similar power to a larger whipple with better tq who cares?
@@midnight347 it’s not … it’s making 40rwhp less than a stage 1 with lower boost and almost 100rwhp less than a stage 2 same boost..
Nicer than Whipple and sounds better
Thank you!
Dud 😂
Thanks for watching!
That's with those bologna ass tires too, RIP WHIPPLE
Thanks for watching!
WHIPPLE 100WHP more +
Yea with headers, no cats, full exhaust, octane booster and more boost sure they 100+ more. They didn't make much at all more on a stock car like this is on 93. Do they even make more at all? I don't think so.
@@midnight347 whipple stage 2 get 750whp easy on most dynos dynojet etc..
@@lucasrossi716 There's a good chance IMO that Roush will have a "stage 3" package as well. Bigger injectors, bigger TBs and perhaps for the 1st time, a fuel pump system upgrade! This is being optimistic, but it can absolutely happen.
@@FitzCityGarage i think for future bigger power wipple its better for 1000whp little pulley, e85 and fuelling...
the tvs are always limited, and we know the tvs are hot soak much more.. buts lets see
@@FitzCityGarage this stage 2 have bigger injectors i downloaded the manual and check.... ..but whipple make 50whp more from outbox... butt... its a nice option
Bruh ! 700 to the wheels 561 torque is f’ing crazy ! Wtf !
Thanks for taking the time to comment