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Regardless of how accurately the faces were reproduced, the expressions on their faces appear to be that of spoiled millennials, NOT of ancient Romans.
The hardest ones are probably the emperors Roman historians wrote nothing about beyond descriptions like "this guy grabbed power and became emperor, had a stutter, disliked by everyone, deposed eight days later by the Praetorian guard, fed to wild animals".
Wasn't there times when they did that as a form of punishment, like nothing will be recorded of your existence, you will not be a part of future memory, I feel like I read something like that when I was younger, there was a term too. I might be mixing up cultures but when I was young we didn't have Internet and mostly Greek and Latin texts were available where I live in English
Metatron thank you for analyzing my video to your channel although i used different statues for re-creating these and each emperor has a dedicated video with better graphics.Good job trying to pronounce my name! Btw feel free to ask me for roman emperors faces for your presentations.
I'm about to do a deep dive in your library, it's such a pleasant surprise to see that famous Egyptian Queen, looking herself on one of your thumbnails!
You know you did it big when you have a bunch of nerds from thousands of years in the future trying to figure out your likeness with advanced technology you wouldn’t even be able to comprehend
Strange how many have grey eyes. Gray eye color is a trait shared by only 3% of the world's population. The color and intensity of gray eyes varies from person to person and can include dark gray, gray-green and gray-blue. Gray Eyes: Gray eyes are similar to blue eyes but with a different fiber structure in the iris. This structure scatters light differently, giving a gray appearance. Gray eyes are relatively rare and often found in people of Northern and Eastern European descent.
Yeah it looks like the description of the emperors were inflated. Looking at how Italians look like. Most have dark brown hair and brown eyes. I doubt the Italians of that time and the emperors had mostly light eyes and light hair.
its possible that they made it up, the colour was misinterpreted or alternatively they only married women with that trait (or light eyes for recessive genes) which tbh would have been hard to fight unless they were maybe in their family. Now i dont know if incest was a common practice among romans, particularly the emperors family. Maybe it wasnt. Im not entirely sure about the genetics of grey eyes either, though it would definitely be a recessive gene but idk if your wife was blue eyed and you had grey eyes, how high are the chances the kid is grey eyed?
Perhaps "gray" was simply a common way to broadly describe light eyes, blue or green-ish. Kinda like how we say "white people" even though "white" skin is actually a pinkish and/or beige color.
I find it interesting these faces resemble modern people in those regions. Like I swear I still see people who look somewhat like this in Italy, Greece, Turkey, etc. on the internet.
That’s because 2k years is a glimpse in the face of evolution. And there was not such a different migration to Italy, most of people who migrated to Italy since that time were Germanic folks or Levantine folks, which both would definitely fall into the Italian phenotype spectrum. Different that what happened to Anatolia for example, they were invaded by central/eastern Asian folks, so if you went back 1000 years you would see people much closer to Europeans than to Turks there.
@@johnnyjoestar7769 WellI don't know about that. Modern Turkish people do not resemble very much the eastern/central asian people in my humble opinion. So I would say they are much closer to Europeans - specialy Greeks - in their looks than to the people from central asia. So I would say ancient Anatolians would indeed not look much different than they do today. Ofc you must not confuse them with Turkic people - who are indeed from central asia.
Vitellius looks like he should be running Korea not Rome
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The statue and the depiction in the Video are actually very flattering according to the sources he was kinda more like "Supersize Me" Mc Donald type fat guy that eat so much that he wasted time to send his scouts to hunt game for his feasts, and there were rumours of him eating humans.
Metatron, i did not know that Augustus marble statue was colored when it was first created! I always thought it was a powerful statue as is, but to see it in color in the past would of made it look alive I'm sure. Learn something new every time i watch your vids. ✌🏼
Both the Romans and the Greeks painted both their statues and their buildings. People in the past loved color every bit as much as we do today, maybe more. They loved bright and vibrant colors, colors that we'd likely find gaudy today. Watch some Assassin's Creed Odyssey videos to see examples of how ancient Greek cities would have looked in the past and there are plenty of pictures of the famous statue of Augustus showing how historians & archeologists thought it would have looked like centuries ago.
@@Riceball01 and unlike today they were willing to pay more for good aesthetics than minimize design to maximize profit. Looking at old buildings or furniture from 100-200 years ago, they had all sorts of intricate decorations that made them as much pieces of art as they were functional in their use. If you walk into any furniture store these days, all of it is rectangular and streamlined for ease of mass production as are the houses and all buildings that are not paid for by the ultra rich to show off.
About a year ago I ran some photos of statues of Roman Emperor's through an AI photo conversion app and I was surprised by how well it fleshed out and colorized the images. The steam punk alien versions of the emperor's that I created with that app were surreal.
I was wondering if they hadn’t given them more modern hairstyles. There is another channel that does reconstruction of medieval figures. In which she does both period and modern representations.
Wow this was fun and fantastic, Metatron! Loved it. But you owe me a glass of wine - I schpritzed one all over my cats & TV when you said "He looks just like my uncle Claudio" - because he looks just like my cousin Claudio in Firenze LOL Can't wait to see your next video on these recreations!!! MORE MORE MORE!!!
I just recently found out that metatron is 41 years old and I was kinda shocked. I thought he was late twenties max early thirties. But it makes sense since I always thought how tf does he know all these things and speak like a gazillion languages at this relatively young age. He definitely aged like wine.
How would you know if he aged like wine if you don't know what he looked like when he was younger? He could have looked exactly the same or dramatically different 15 years ago.
I inferred he was probably AT LEAST in his mid 30s at least due to his slight salt and pepper hair/beard color, but yeah him being in his early 40s pretty much adds to the adage that Millennials are seemingly aging better than the previous generations (Gen X and Boomers.)
@@Dylans503the tisms are strong in this one.... lol it's just an expression. Doesn't matter if he looked 30 at 15. He looks younger than his age. That's good enough ain't it?
Haven't scientists been able to figure out the color paint they used on these statues by using special UV lights to identify the remnants of pigmentations on the statues? I remember learning about that in an Art History class back in college, my textbook even had a recreation of a famous statue of one of the Roman Emperors (I forget which one) painted to look like it would have back in Ancient Rome.
Its still inaccurate because it looks like crude paint over in Gimp. It was mkre lilely to be laquer, transluscent darker colouring that stiol shows the texture of the stone below.
Not all statues have usefull surviving pigments (if any at all for some) and we also still need to make a crossover check with ancient sources, a bit of guessing and other stuff to actually tell what the real colour looked like. It's an impressive feat, the technic is interesting but it doesn't tell us as much as we think when it cames to the colour itself, as the other commenter pointed out we're scraping really small bits of crude paint that survived under probably several layers of paint and went through harsh conditions. Researchers needs to acccount for how much brighter or darker several layers of paints can be compared to a small bits, we don't know our pigment from what stage of the painting job is from, exactly how we do it today they could've mixed paints of different colour to reach a more desirable effect and maybe we got a pigment of the final mixed blend or maybe the original base they used (more likely thats the case), all the chemical reactions with all the stuff it got in contact with over time, the fact that they used to use some sort of lacquer to make everything shinier and transluscent that didn't survive...
@@annaclarafenyo8185 Whoever said that probably never visited the Mediterranean. There may have been a couple of blonde emperors, but as they came from different lineages from around the area these probably weren't in the majority.
@@Miner-dyne The same for Vespasian BTW. Titus looks a lot like him, Domitian not at all. I'm starting to understand why Vespasian loved Titus and neglected Domitian...
25:51 I suspect that the presentation of Septimus Severus in the video is based on a wooden painting, "Severan Tondo", that depicts Severus, his wife and their two children, but the face of the second child has been removed from the painting. At least the hair style, the hair color, the tan, the position of the head and the direction of the gaze are the same as in that painting. But how accurately and realistically the painting in question depicts Severus and his family is another matter and something I can't answer because I'm not an expert.
Yeah, I'd say the Septimius Severus is based on the Severan tondo, and as such, I thought it was pretty good. With Septimius Severus in specific, there is the problem that apparently, he did use portraiture in a very conscious political way to bolster his dynastic claims, which explains why so many of his sculptures look like a Serapis Antonine crossover. Which could be considered a stepping stone into the idealized, not at all realistic art of the Constantinian dynasty. Of course, I'd say the evolution of imperial portraiture is an awesome subject for a video. I'd definitely watch it.
The term "subflavum" originally means dark blonde or very light brown in Latin, indicating a shade that approaches golden-yellow. Therefore, it's likely that both Augustus and Nero had dark blonde or possibly very light brown hair.Both had blue eyes too.
It shouldn't forget one thing: unlike the Greeks, the sculptures of the ancient Romans were realistic, they didn't pursue some sort of beauty ideal. Sure, probably emperors were made better than the reality, but (again) this difference between Roman and Greek sculpture shouldn't be forgotten: Romans sculptures were realistic.
@@lazios Emperors were most likely very different in their personality. So some may in fact order to "beautify" them a bit. Would you go against the emperor if you were a sculpturer? I wouldn't. But I agree with the statement in general. We can rely on their representations quite well I think. It is also not impossible for emperors to have several statues made of them. Some would be more realistic than others I think.
I've seen quite a few posts from this contributor. Usually he uses busts or paintings as his main source for the AI renderings and in animated form, usually lets the eyes blink and mouth smile, like he was introducing them as a friend. Perfect renderings, no. But humanizing? Yes. Kings, emperors or what...they were humans and I like the attempt to bring them to life. Good post.
I got thrown out of english class in 7th grade, because I couldn't controll my laughter when my teacher asked "where were we?"... man that was a flashback 😂
I did that back in High School at Francis Greenway High School in Beresfield, New South Wales, Australia. When I calmly explained to the teacher where he was at the previous week and said, "you're a smart arse, aren't you?". I replied "No, I just wrote down what you had on the board before you suddenly raced out of the classroom." He had developed a very bad case of diarrhoea after his coffee was spiked with a drug. I tried my hardest to get suspended but to no avail.
Vitellius absolutely doesn´look like the statue. He looks Chinese. You can see in the bust how the eyebrows bonde protude over the eyes on the original man but not in the AI created image.
Please make an episode 2 about the rest of the guys, i would love to hear your opinion about the ai version of Maximinus Thrax, cause he looks like someone who would like to talk with you about your insurrance! :D
Caligula looked like Michael from Walmart, however the statue somehow portrays his character perfectly, you can see the insanity in his eyes even without him having any
The Augustus looks dead-on accurate to me. Even the hair color. I was quite blond as a kid, but over time my hair has darkened to that color. Augustus looks like someone whose hair similarly was blond but darkened, which is very common and fits his ethnicity and the way that Latin uses two terms for blond (one for that N. European blond that persists into adulthood, one probably for childhood blond hair that darkens but maintains blond tones). I actually know some modern Italians from the Tuscany area that have similar features and coloring.
I'm of mostly celto-germanic origin (actually not that far north from Tuscany, so probably there is some relations too). As a kid I could go outside a few summer days and my blonde hair got sun bleached to a almost white and my skin got a very olive tan. With the years my hair turned to a darker blonde too and I don't get tanned as easily now. Funny how genetic plays out.
Actually, Augustus' hair was more of a dark blonde or very light brown shade. Descriptions of his hair referred to it as nearly or kinda of blond/ golden in the original Latin. Plus, Pliny characterized his eyes as grey-blue.
Actually, Augustus' hair was more of a dark blonde or very light brown shade. Descriptions of his hair is referred to as nearly or kinda golden. Pliny said that Augustus' eyes were of a grey blue coloring.
i was in the other room when this video started and im hearing Metatron calling my name and im like e "wtf is going on here..", lol. That was unexpected. Panayotis is greek yes but there's also a Bulgarian version (which is my version i guess)
I LOVE the "Live On Air" sign. The only thing could be changed, is for the sign to be a bit further in the background, bit still visible. Love your videos! Greetings from Romania!
Okay, so I just turned the video on and can I say, when I heard your sounding out that Greek name, it made me feel not so alone. I find you to be so intelligent I guess I just assumed that at your educational level you would NEVER have trouble reading a word or name so seeing you have to sound something out just like I have to do sometimes made me feel less dumb because I know Metatron is not dumb in any subject that I have seen yet so please don't misunderstand me. I am not delighting in your use of sounding out a word, it just made me feel like sounding out words isn't something that just ever goes away. So thank you for sharing that part of your humanity Metatron. Like Russian names for example. Those are so difficult for me but i am not going to let that keep me from reading aloud, or possibly starting my own show someday. You are amazing I find you to be intellectually challenging in the very best way. Keep up the GREAT work noble one.
Do you think I could have used a few periods in this comment. I think it is just one long run on sentence. LOL> if I would have know you were actually going to respond I would have double checked my grammar. I swear I know what a run on sentence is.
Metatron can you please do an in depth analysis of each Roman Emperors? Cover their family as children, the kind of things they were educated, training, how they become Emperor of Rome, and how they died. A weekly or every 2 weeks video. There's so many Roman Emperors that I never heard talked-about.
Could you do a deep dive into the relationship Tiberius and Caligula? I'm interested to watch your take on if Tiberius was actually as heinous as described, if his proclivities traumatized Caligula, and the role of society and how it dealt with and thought of those proclivities, vs the role of propaganda. I'd also love to watch your take on the transition of power, the end of Tiberius and Caligula's life as a whole. Were there any good policies or legacies he left behind? Did he really eat is son? Was he driven mad or poisoned over a long time? What were the extent of atrocities compared to those of Tiberius? Was there a strategy in any of it? Were there nuances and context specific to ancient society? All that jazz, lol.
Weirdly enough I find the old colorless roman statues to appear much more realistic than the AI version with all it's details. It seems as if the AI is cutting together pictures of different human beings in a generic way. Also it seems to distort even dominant, characteristic features displayed in the statues
25:41 - Is Septimius Severus supposed to be the dude they're portraying in Gladiator 2? Or is he the guy that Vivek brought up when he put out that video where he made some kind of claim about Romans being diverse? For some reason this guy seems familiar to me, but there's a good chance that I'm mistaking him for someone else.
"How is this a language??" True, so true, haha. Also, all that curly hair... doesn't really seem likely they all had it, it's more like an artistic choice.
It makes sense they all look like regular folks, because 2k years is a glimpse in the face of evolution. And there was not such a different migration to Italy, most of people who migrated to Italy since that time were Germanic folks or Levantine folks, which both would definitely fall into the Italian phenotype spectrum. Different that what happened to Anatolia for example, they were invaded by central/eastern Asian folks, so if you went back 1000 years you would see people much closer to Europeans than to Turks there.
I’ve been studying Caligula for 20 years to create a novel about him (and yes, research was all in books back then). I’m so glad you pointed out his iconic brow, and that his hair was golden. I don’t know how they, or AI, messed it up so badly.
Makes sense. Many Roman emperors were said to have had light hair. Many stop there and incorrectly assume it means blond. When they had specific references to blond and so it would be more obvious if they actually meant blond or not if those references were examined.
You say half Punic and half Italian features like as if they're that much different. Im Lebanese and I cant tell the difference between Italians, Greeks and Levantines 9 times out of 10. We truly are all cousins lmao
It depends. Southern Italians can pass as Lebanese, but typical Northern and Central Italians cannot. Besides, I am very familiar with Levantine and Italian people.
@@arabos4239 Yes. DNA does not lie. All the places colonized by them has just berber DNA and a few locals. This includes Spain, Italy, Portugal and North Africa.
@ that’s because the Romans depopulated them, read about what the Romans did to the Carthaginians in the third and final punic war, read about what happened to Carthage and it’s population. DNA is a new science, it needs time for it to be “more than likely correct”. This one DNA testing that berbers keep sharing on every platform, will not change history. Encyclopedias everywhere will not name Carthage “a berber civilization”, it will remain Phoenician for eternity.
Excellent video so far metatron, as always! But I do want to point out: your camera seems to be freezing at certain points in the video! I figure you'd want to know if you haven't caught it yourself (maybe you mention it later in the video, in which case this comment is useless) The third time I noticed the freezing on your Webcam was around the 14:55 to 14:58 mark, I thought it was my phone at first but then going back over that section a couple times and having it freeze on the same frames every time confirmed to me it was the video, not me. Hope this helps somehow!
Yeah, 100% those were AI. I think a lot of the "modern gamer" look comes from the fact that the model was trained on pictures of modern people, resulting in modern hairstyles, expressions, and even some features. That is my best guess as to what is going on.
100% they are not AI. The artist works in ZBrush and does absolutely fantastic work. Such a shame Meta left you with that impression as it does a real disservice to the quality of modeling skill on display in the original video.
Many seem to have heads that are a little too wide above the ears. I suspect because they were looking at the statues straight on for reference, and many of the statues were not meant to be viewed straight on, face to face, but from below, as statues were often on pedestals to give them more prominence. Thus, the wider head looks more proportional when viewed from a lower angle. To use a later example, this is why Michelangelo's David has a proportionally large head, but it looks very natural when viewed from the floor.
Give em a few more years, they're still trying to hijack the rest of history. If they weren't busy stealing the imaginary characters from stories as well, they might've gotten around to it by now. They'll claim everyone but Nero, as he fits their white devil narrative perfectly. "We ruled the world an shiett, then that blonde devil Nero come and colonized our kangdom and whitewashed the all da statchoos!"
25:10 the reference used for Septimius Severus was probably the Severan Tondo, you can see how his face is round like on the painting, it isn't as accurate as a bust but is a good reference to know how dark his skin was compared to his wife and sons
@@mrchambers31 it’s not AI. Modeling was done in ZBrush & skin textures in Substance Painter. Panagiotis is a very talented 3D artist whose work is way better than even the best AI image generator.
Hey, Just an observation from my part when it comes to your set from the audience perspective. I think the tv on your left is cutting too much the frame, becoming a black void beside your head, specially when the videos with black background. Maybe place a screensaver of like a dope Caravaggio piece while recording so it looks like a painting and the black goes away. Keep up the vids, love your content!
"Where were we? ... how is that a language?" English isn't a language. It's bits and pieces of 3 languages standing on each other's shoulders, wrapped in a trenchcoat, hiding in a dark alley waiting for other languages to walk past before beating them up and searching their pockets for loose vocabulary and spare grammar.
Check out Royalty Now Studios. Becca does great work and has recreated several Emperors. One thing I appreciate about her is that she shows her working process and where she is pulling features from. She also gives some history behind the faces.
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Panagiotis Konstantinou is Greek. And it is not controversial. He is very good at it all. Glad you finally discovered Panagioti.
And congratulations on the new house. May it be filled with joy and laughter and love.
Can you do timestamps for each one? That would be legit ty!
Pertinax is an older Ryan Reynolds.
Regardless of how accurately the faces were reproduced, the expressions on their faces appear to be that of spoiled millennials, NOT of ancient Romans.
The hardest ones are probably the emperors Roman historians wrote nothing about beyond descriptions like "this guy grabbed power and became emperor, had a stutter, disliked by everyone, deposed eight days later by the Praetorian guard, fed to wild animals".
Very true
"this one grabbed them by the pursey!" ...i.e., debased the currency. Probably had fleshy lips, like a fish.
@@gcanaday1 or grabbed them by Debussy. He was a time-traveling Gallic Composer
@@ΕρνέστοςΣμίθ I think that name is a corruption of the great actor/time travel Gary Busey. 😂
Wasn't there times when they did that as a form of punishment, like nothing will be recorded of your existence, you will not be a part of future memory, I feel like I read something like that when I was younger, there was a term too. I might be mixing up cultures but when I was young we didn't have Internet and mostly Greek and Latin texts were available where I live in English
I remember my grandmother telling me, “ i don’t care what they tell you in school, Roman Emperors were all Giga-Chads…”
Some were.
She’s right
@@petrilofberg1758😂
@@petrilofberg1758All of them did very based stuff. For example, the most based stuff that Nero did was die
Claudius was hot 😛
Metatron thank you for analyzing my video to your channel although i used different statues for re-creating these and each emperor has a dedicated video with better graphics.Good job trying to pronounce my name! Btw feel free to ask me for roman emperors faces for your presentations.
So humble. Good to see you.
Greeks and Italians are brothers with history and culture intertwined for thousands of years.
Hey there! Love your videos too. Keep up the great work in bringing us faces of the past!
You do a great job and I love Your videos.
I'm about to do a deep dive in your library, it's such a pleasant surprise to see that famous Egyptian Queen, looking herself on one of your thumbnails!
You know you did it big when you have a bunch of nerds from thousands of years in the future trying to figure out your likeness with advanced technology you wouldn’t even be able to comprehend
Thts y these men fought hard wars to be remembered.they knew what they were doin
Here I was minding my own business when all of a sudden I got reminded of the roman empire.
You are not True man. You must thinking about Rome More often
Other youtubers: Make several videos dedicated to moving to a new house.
Metatron: I moved to a new house in the middle of the video. Wehwuhwee?
29:32 "Someone hit Geta with a baseball bat".
Let's be real, we all know it was Caracalla.
But it was a discus 😂
He looks like type to use a cestus. (especially with that nose)
We all know the preatornians killed Geta
Strange how many have grey eyes.
Gray eye color is a trait shared by only 3% of the world's population. The color and intensity of gray eyes varies from person to person and can include dark gray, gray-green and gray-blue.
Gray Eyes: Gray eyes are similar to blue eyes but with a different fiber structure in the iris. This structure scatters light differently, giving a gray appearance. Gray eyes are relatively rare and often found in people of Northern and Eastern European descent.
Because it’s bs
Yeah it looks like the description of the emperors were inflated. Looking at how Italians look like. Most have dark brown hair and brown eyes. I doubt the Italians of that time and the emperors had mostly light eyes and light hair.
its possible that they made it up, the colour was misinterpreted or alternatively they only married women with that trait (or light eyes for recessive genes) which tbh would have been hard to fight unless they were maybe in their family. Now i dont know if incest was a common practice among romans, particularly the emperors family. Maybe it wasnt. Im not entirely sure about the genetics of grey eyes either, though it would definitely be a recessive gene but idk if your wife was blue eyed and you had grey eyes, how high are the chances the kid is grey eyed?
Fair hair and eye colour are recessive, so the Italians had 2000 years to lose those traits
Perhaps "gray" was simply a common way to broadly describe light eyes, blue or green-ish. Kinda like how we say "white people" even though "white" skin is actually a pinkish and/or beige color.
I find it interesting these faces resemble modern people in those regions. Like I swear I still see people who look somewhat like this in Italy, Greece, Turkey, etc. on the internet.
That’s because 2k years is a glimpse in the face of evolution. And there was not such a different migration to Italy, most of people who migrated to Italy since that time were Germanic folks or Levantine folks, which both would definitely fall into the Italian phenotype spectrum. Different that what happened to Anatolia for example, they were invaded by central/eastern Asian folks, so if you went back 1000 years you would see people much closer to Europeans than to Turks there.
I mean the AI can't steal - I mean, be trained on - things that don't exist.
It's almost like truly massive and sudden demographic-altering population movements are mostly a product of the 20th century onwards.
@@johnnyjoestar7769 except that evolution is not real. And southern italians looks very different from central and north italians
@@johnnyjoestar7769 WellI don't know about that. Modern Turkish people do not resemble very much the eastern/central asian people in my humble opinion. So I would say they are much closer to Europeans - specialy Greeks - in their looks than to the people from central asia. So I would say ancient Anatolians would indeed not look much different than they do today.
Ofc you must not confuse them with Turkic people - who are indeed from central asia.
Vitellius looks like he should be running Korea not Rome
The statue and the depiction in the Video are actually very flattering according to the sources he was kinda more like "Supersize Me" Mc Donald type fat guy that eat so much that he wasted time to send his scouts to hunt game for his feasts, and there were rumours of him eating humans.
TBH that sound more like a joke from his obsession about the food. I don't think it would pass in the Roman world.
@@TheRezro
You would be surprised.
I really wouldn't. But that give strong slender vibe.
@@TheRezro
Statues are always made to make people look better. So his statue looks bad already.
The hair would’ve been better had this been done in the ‘90s.
Caligula and Nero look like they would fit in with the cast of MTVs Jackass.
They would have.
If you gave the cast of Jackass absolute power, you would probably get a reign like Caligula or Nero
Slander and lies against my boy Nero. @@npbarnhill
😅 That's so funny right next to Steve oh Caligula would say let me show you how to 🥳
They probably would have liked that more than being Emperors. They both didn’t really take it seriously and wanted to do other things instead.
😱 Italian men jumpscare 😱
None of them is Italian kid
Septimius is half.@@HeliodromusScorpio
@@HeliodromusScorpio They are acutally Italicus aren't they?
Southern Italians are basically Muslim mutts. Northern Italians are the decedents of Rome and goths.
Metatron, i did not know that Augustus marble statue was colored when it was first created! I always thought it was a powerful statue as is, but to see it in color in the past would of made it look alive I'm sure. Learn something new every time i watch your vids. ✌🏼
all statues were
Both the Romans and the Greeks painted both their statues and their buildings. People in the past loved color every bit as much as we do today, maybe more. They loved bright and vibrant colors, colors that we'd likely find gaudy today. Watch some Assassin's Creed Odyssey videos to see examples of how ancient Greek cities would have looked in the past and there are plenty of pictures of the famous statue of Augustus showing how historians & archeologists thought it would have looked like centuries ago.
@@Riceball01 and unlike today they were willing to pay more for good aesthetics than minimize design to maximize profit. Looking at old buildings or furniture from 100-200 years ago, they had all sorts of intricate decorations that made them as much pieces of art as they were functional in their use. If you walk into any furniture store these days, all of it is rectangular and streamlined for ease of mass production as are the houses and all buildings that are not paid for by the ultra rich to show off.
All roman and Greek statues were painted, majority of them at least. In fact even their architecture was had colours
About a year ago I ran some photos of statues of Roman Emperor's through an AI photo conversion app and I was surprised by how well it fleshed out and colorized the images. The steam punk alien versions of the emperor's that I created with that app were surreal.
Marcus Aurelius: wait thats you metatron!
"Where were we"
sounds a little like "veni vidi vici"
I was wondering if they hadn’t given them more modern hairstyles. There is another channel that does reconstruction of medieval figures. In which she does both period and modern representations.
Yeah I've developed crushes for several renaissance ladies through that ladies work 😊
Becca Segovia at Royalty Now? Her work is amazing.
They all have something in common , big ears
You know what that means!
They are good listeners 👂👂
@@FireflowerDancerdust catchers?
@@Manco65Did you catch that?
'-Yeah, a lotta dust' 😂😂
Wow this was fun and fantastic, Metatron! Loved it. But you owe me a glass of wine - I schpritzed one all over my cats & TV when you said "He looks just like my uncle Claudio" - because he looks just like my cousin Claudio in Firenze LOL Can't wait to see your next video on these recreations!!! MORE MORE MORE!!!
I just recently found out that metatron is 41 years old and I was kinda shocked. I thought he was late twenties max early thirties. But it makes sense since I always thought how tf does he know all these things and speak like a gazillion languages at this relatively young age. He definitely aged like wine.
How would you know if he aged like wine if you don't know what he looked like when he was younger? He could have looked exactly the same or dramatically different 15 years ago.
In another shocking twist, Melonie Mac is 36
I inferred he was probably AT LEAST in his mid 30s at least due to his slight salt and pepper hair/beard color, but yeah him being in his early 40s pretty much adds to the adage that Millennials are seemingly aging better than the previous generations (Gen X and Boomers.)
@@Dylans503the tisms are strong in this one.... lol it's just an expression. Doesn't matter if he looked 30 at 15. He looks younger than his age. That's good enough ain't it?
@@Dylans503he has shown videos of himself from like 10 years ago
Love these “recreating famous historical individuals” videos. Definitely want to see a part 2.
Haven't scientists been able to figure out the color paint they used on these statues by using special UV lights to identify the remnants of pigmentations on the statues? I remember learning about that in an Art History class back in college, my textbook even had a recreation of a famous statue of one of the Roman Emperors (I forget which one) painted to look like it would have back in Ancient Rome.
Its still inaccurate because it looks like crude paint over in Gimp. It was mkre lilely to be laquer, transluscent darker colouring that stiol shows the texture of the stone below.
Not all statues have usefull surviving pigments (if any at all for some) and we also still need to make a crossover check with ancient sources, a bit of guessing and other stuff to actually tell what the real colour looked like. It's an impressive feat, the technic is interesting but it doesn't tell us as much as we think when it cames to the colour itself, as the other commenter pointed out we're scraping really small bits of crude paint that survived under probably several layers of paint and went through harsh conditions. Researchers needs to acccount for how much brighter or darker several layers of paints can be compared to a small bits, we don't know our pigment from what stage of the painting job is from, exactly how we do it today they could've mixed paints of different colour to reach a more desirable effect and maybe we got a pigment of the final mixed blend or maybe the original base they used (more likely thats the case), all the chemical reactions with all the stuff it got in contact with over time, the fact that they used to use some sort of lacquer to make everything shinier and transluscent that didn't survive...
I actually really like Panagiotis’ work! He’s thoughtful, respectful and does a good job of bringing the past to life.
Growing up Gran would say. "I don't care what they teach you in school. Roman Emperors were Black." Is that how the meme goes?
Nobody ever said this. What people did (falsely) say is that Roman Emperors were blonde-headed, like Germans.
@@annaclarafenyo8185 Whoever said that probably never visited the Mediterranean. There may have been a couple of blonde emperors, but as they came from different lineages from around the area these probably weren't in the majority.
@@annaclarafenyo8185That hag in the Cleopatra «documentary» said so
Blonde hair is a rare trait even for the people with the lightest coloring.
@@annaclarafenyo8185 He was referencing a meme that came from the "documentary" Netflix made about Cleopatra.
Nero was a reddit mod?
He hated Christians, had a neckbeard, owned a castrated slave boyfriend... uh oh you might be onto something
Aaah, that's why he hated Christianity.
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Broooo
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It's funny how Septimius Severus doesn't look Levantine at all, but his son Caracalla does.
Momma got some explaining to do...
Right? I am half Levantine, and I lol’d.
@@Miner-dyne The same for Vespasian BTW. Titus looks a lot like him, Domitian not at all. I'm starting to understand why Vespasian loved Titus and neglected Domitian...
But Septimius Severus his father is a native berber amazigh Libyan punic
Wasn’t he a Libyan Punic or Carthaginian???
25:51 I suspect that the presentation of Septimus Severus in the video is based on a wooden painting, "Severan Tondo", that depicts Severus, his wife and their two children, but the face of the second child has been removed from the painting. At least the hair style, the hair color, the tan, the position of the head and the direction of the gaze are the same as in that painting. But how accurately and realistically the painting in question depicts Severus and his family is another matter and something I can't answer because I'm not an expert.
Yeah, I'd say the Septimius Severus is based on the Severan tondo, and as such, I thought it was pretty good. With Septimius Severus in specific, there is the problem that apparently, he did use portraiture in a very conscious political way to bolster his dynastic claims, which explains why so many of his sculptures look like a Serapis Antonine crossover. Which could be considered a stepping stone into the idealized, not at all realistic art of the Constantinian dynasty. Of course, I'd say the evolution of imperial portraiture is an awesome subject for a video. I'd definitely watch it.
We use a term in Poland - Dark Blonde (Ciemny Blond) - Light Brown/Brown hair that becomes brighter in summer. It might work for the first one.
The term "subflavum" originally means dark blonde or very light brown in Latin, indicating a shade that approaches golden-yellow. Therefore, it's likely that both Augustus and Nero had dark blonde or possibly very light brown hair.Both had blue eyes too.
Nero looks like he has a red pill podcast where he rages about the dating scene every night.
ROFLMAO
You know he would. Prob. blame the fire on those 304's at the house of Vesta...
and we "will love him for it."
Augustus looks like a modern cuck doormat ready to give his life savings to some broad that never loved him.
"Rome needs to return to tradition and reject modernity."
We also cannot forget that artistic license was definitely taken with the statues themselves.
It shouldn't forget one thing: unlike the Greeks, the sculptures of the ancient Romans were realistic, they didn't pursue some sort of beauty ideal.
Sure, probably emperors were made better than the reality, but (again) this difference between Roman and Greek sculpture shouldn't be forgotten: Romans sculptures were realistic.
The faces are realistic they only took license with the bodies. They were all buffed up
It’s a little on the nose ✡️
@@lazios Emperors were most likely very different in their personality. So some may in fact order to "beautify" them a bit. Would you go against the emperor if you were a sculpturer? I wouldn't. But I agree with the statement in general. We can rely on their representations quite well I think. It is also not impossible for emperors to have several statues made of them. Some would be more realistic than others I think.
@@lazios At least republican sculptures were realistic - during principate we have this problem of scultping idealistic emperors.
Yes, we liked it and want part 2.
Most people... "Squirrel!".
Raphael, "Where were we? Where... were... we. Where were we, is this a language?"
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I've seen quite a few posts from this contributor. Usually he uses busts or paintings as his main source for the AI renderings and in animated form, usually lets the eyes blink and mouth smile, like he was introducing them as a friend. Perfect renderings, no. But humanizing? Yes. Kings, emperors or what...they were humans and I like the attempt to bring them to life. Good post.
He’s not using AI. He sculpts in ZBrush and each model is very time consuming to create.
No AI
Pertinax looks like a "for legal purposes" very slightly modified Ryan Reynolds photo. These images are very "modern American" in their hair styling
Are u a jxx ?
Watching this video makes me marvel at the skill of those ancient stone sculptors.
Joffrey from Game of Thrones looks a bit like the statue of Caligula 😂
Absolutely on point
WHAT he doesn't look like Brian Blessed?
WHAT! He doesn't look like John Hurt!?!?
1:05 Don't worry Metatron we don't know how we pronounce it either.
I got thrown out of english class in 7th grade, because I couldn't controll my laughter when my teacher asked "where were we?"... man that was a flashback 😂
I did that back in High School at Francis Greenway High School in Beresfield, New South Wales, Australia. When I calmly explained to the teacher where he was at the previous week and said, "you're a smart arse, aren't you?". I replied "No, I just wrote down what you had on the board before you suddenly raced out of the classroom." He had developed a very bad case of diarrhoea after his coffee was spiked with a drug. I tried my hardest to get suspended but to no avail.
Vitellius absolutely doesn´look like the statue. He looks Chinese. You can see in the bust how the eyebrows bonde protude over the eyes on the original man but not in the AI created image.
I like how some of the emperors look like modern mob bosses. 😅
Metatron is so far left hes turned right. And hes so far right hes turned left. And yes both at the same time, hes that damn good
its so cool all the historical details you provide in your commentary, i like your content a lot, def a new fan!
Please make an episode 2 about the rest of the guys, i would love to hear your opinion about the ai version of Maximinus Thrax, cause he looks like someone who would like to talk with you about your insurrance! :D
Caligula looked like Michael from Walmart, however the statue somehow portrays his character perfectly, you can see the insanity in his eyes even without him having any
3:46 Now it makes perfect sense, the character of Laios in the manga and anime Dungeon Meshi gets his name from the Latin word for Flaxen Blond.
Just as long as he doesn't eat any originium when he visits Arknights
I quite enjoyed this video. One of my favourite things about you uploading daily is getting to see new series or formats that you try out.
I like this Latin so much! The pronunciation is so clear!
It was plenty interesting enough that I stayed until the end.
I'll do it for the next one too!
Thanks for the fascinating content, as always.
Yes I indeed actually liked this. More please!
Marcus Aurellius happy that the AI decided to de-age him by 15 years.
That's not Vespasian. It's Hamdo Suljevic from Busovaca, he grows corn for a living and sings sevdalinkas in his spare time.
The Augustus looks dead-on accurate to me. Even the hair color. I was quite blond as a kid, but over time my hair has darkened to that color. Augustus looks like someone whose hair similarly was blond but darkened, which is very common and fits his ethnicity and the way that Latin uses two terms for blond (one for that N. European blond that persists into adulthood, one probably for childhood blond hair that darkens but maintains blond tones). I actually know some modern Italians from the Tuscany area that have similar features and coloring.
I'm of mostly celto-germanic origin (actually not that far north from Tuscany, so probably there is some relations too). As a kid I could go outside a few summer days and my blonde hair got sun bleached to a almost white and my skin got a very olive tan. With the years my hair turned to a darker blonde too and I don't get tanned as easily now.
Funny how genetic plays out.
Actually, Augustus' hair was more of a dark blonde or very light brown shade. Descriptions of his hair referred to it as nearly or kinda of blond/ golden in the original Latin. Plus, Pliny characterized his eyes as grey-blue.
Actually, Augustus' hair was more of a dark blonde or very light brown shade. Descriptions of his hair is referred to as nearly or kinda golden. Pliny said that Augustus' eyes were of a grey blue coloring.
i was in the other room when this video started and im hearing Metatron calling my name and im like e "wtf is going on here..", lol. That was unexpected. Panayotis is greek yes but there's also a Bulgarian version (which is my version i guess)
I LOVE the "Live On Air" sign. The only thing could be changed, is for the sign to be a bit further in the background, bit still visible. Love your videos! Greetings from Romania!
12:43 Hey look, Domitian's come to see us!
That was cool, appreciate the video. Despite some clear inaccuracies, it was great to see something resembling a 'living' face to these names.
I used to watch and subscribe to this channel! I am glad you are looking into this channel. Cool! I agree the music is good too. Thank you!
Okay, so I just turned the video on and can I say, when I heard your sounding out that Greek name, it made me feel not so alone. I find you to be so intelligent I guess I just assumed that at your educational level you would NEVER have trouble reading a word or name so seeing you have to sound something out just like I have to do sometimes made me feel less dumb because I know Metatron is not dumb in any subject that I have seen yet so please don't misunderstand me. I am not delighting in your use of sounding out a word, it just made me feel like sounding out words isn't something that just ever goes away. So thank you for sharing that part of your humanity Metatron. Like Russian names for example. Those are so difficult for me but i am not going to let that keep me from reading aloud, or possibly starting my own show someday. You are amazing I find you to be intellectually challenging in the very best way. Keep up the GREAT work noble one.
Ahah thanks I thought it was hilarious so I left it in while editing. I appreciate your comments and complements and thanks for watching.
Do you think I could have used a few periods in this comment. I think it is just one long run on sentence. LOL> if I would have know you were actually going to respond I would have double checked my grammar. I swear I know what a run on sentence is.
LOLOLOL> I clearly don't know what a question mark is either. How embarrassing. [face palm]
He has videos on ancient greeks too, even did some god statues
Augustus looks like he spoke with an English accent. Nero definitely played a lot of cod.
Metatron can you please do an in depth analysis of each Roman Emperors? Cover their family as children, the kind of things they were educated, training, how they become Emperor of Rome, and how they died. A weekly or every 2 weeks video. There's so many Roman Emperors that I never heard talked-about.
All 258 of them?!
Yes
What a fun and interesting video!
Antoninus Pius 19:07 looks more like Jamie Lannister (Nikolaj Coster-Waldau) than an emperor.
I thought exactly the same.
YUP lol
I was looking for this comment!!! 😊
I was patiently waiting for this video
Vespasian looks like Joe Pesci.
Trajan looks like Ellen Degeneres.
As someone with grey eyes I’m flattered to share my eye colour with so many emperors
But I was assured by my grandmother than the Roman Emperors were black!!!!
We wuz...
@@Atlas_21... emprurzz and shiet.
@@Atlas_21empruz n shit
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Lmao their statue doesn't seem like that
Could you do a deep dive into the relationship Tiberius and Caligula? I'm interested to watch your take on if Tiberius was actually as heinous as described, if his proclivities traumatized Caligula, and the role of society and how it dealt with and thought of those proclivities, vs the role of propaganda. I'd also love to watch your take on the transition of power, the end of Tiberius and Caligula's life as a whole. Were there any good policies or legacies he left behind? Did he really eat is son? Was he driven mad or poisoned over a long time? What were the extent of atrocities compared to those of Tiberius? Was there a strategy in any of it? Were there nuances and context specific to ancient society? All that jazz, lol.
Weirdly enough I find the old colorless roman statues to appear much more realistic than the AI version with all it's details. It seems as if the AI is cutting together pictures of different human beings in a generic way. Also it seems to distort even dominant, characteristic features displayed in the statues
25:41 - Is Septimius Severus supposed to be the dude they're portraying in Gladiator 2? Or is he the guy that Vivek brought up when he put out that video where he made some kind of claim about Romans being diverse?
For some reason this guy seems familiar to me, but there's a good chance that I'm mistaking him for someone else.
Surprising how many of them were blonde and had gray/blue eyes. Thats now what I think of when I think of italians.
Apparently it's Ai, so not historical.
Good observations. I really enjoy hearing how an Italian sees videos like this.
"How is this a language??" True, so true, haha. Also, all that curly hair... doesn't really seem likely they all had it, it's more like an artistic choice.
Not an artistic choice. If that was the case then all of then would have curly hair like the greeks specially if they were from the same period.
6:39 Nero looks like a guy named Tanner who encourges you to take shots at parties
It makes sense they all look like regular folks, because 2k years is a glimpse in the face of evolution. And there was not such a different migration to Italy, most of people who migrated to Italy since that time were Germanic folks or Levantine folks, which both would definitely fall into the Italian phenotype spectrum. Different that what happened to Anatolia for example, they were invaded by central/eastern Asian folks, so if you went back 1000 years you would see people much closer to Europeans than to Turks there.
I’ve been studying Caligula for 20 years to create a novel about him (and yes, research was all in books back then). I’m so glad you pointed out his iconic brow, and that his hair was golden. I don’t know how they, or AI, messed it up so badly.
Otto and Vitelius look a little like east asians.
Yeah. I can sort of see that now you mentioned it.
They don't. If this was the case even Metatron would notice as well.
debating on ancient roman hair styles is PEAK this channel lol. Love it.
I am surprised the AI didn't make them all black women....lol.
Makes sense. Many Roman emperors were said to have had light hair. Many stop there and incorrectly assume it means blond. When they had specific references to blond and so it would be more obvious if they actually meant blond or not if those references were examined.
You say half Punic and half Italian features like as if they're that much different. Im Lebanese and I cant tell the difference between Italians, Greeks and Levantines 9 times out of 10. We truly are all cousins lmao
Punic is mostly berber.
It depends. Southern Italians can pass as Lebanese, but typical Northern and Central Italians cannot. Besides, I am very familiar with Levantine and Italian people.
@@paulodelima5705 no.
@@arabos4239 Yes. DNA does not lie. All the places colonized by them has just berber DNA and a few locals. This includes Spain, Italy, Portugal and North Africa.
@ that’s because the Romans depopulated them, read about what the Romans did to the Carthaginians in the third and final punic war, read about what happened to Carthage and it’s population.
DNA is a new science, it needs time for it to be “more than likely correct”.
This one DNA testing that berbers keep sharing on every platform, will not change history.
Encyclopedias everywhere will not name Carthage “a berber civilization”, it will remain Phoenician for eternity.
Excellent video so far metatron, as always! But I do want to point out: your camera seems to be freezing at certain points in the video! I figure you'd want to know if you haven't caught it yourself (maybe you mention it later in the video, in which case this comment is useless)
The third time I noticed the freezing on your Webcam was around the 14:55 to 14:58 mark, I thought it was my phone at first but then going back over that section a couple times and having it freeze on the same frames every time confirmed to me it was the video, not me. Hope this helps somehow!
Yeah, 100% those were AI. I think a lot of the "modern gamer" look comes from the fact that the model was trained on pictures of modern people, resulting in modern hairstyles, expressions, and even some features. That is my best guess as to what is going on.
100% they are not AI. The artist works in ZBrush and does absolutely fantastic work. Such a shame Meta left you with that impression as it does a real disservice to the quality of modeling skill on display in the original video.
Many seem to have heads that are a little too wide above the ears. I suspect because they were looking at the statues straight on for reference, and many of the statues were not meant to be viewed straight on, face to face, but from below, as statues were often on pedestals to give them more prominence. Thus, the wider head looks more proportional when viewed from a lower angle. To use a later example, this is why Michelangelo's David has a proportionally large head, but it looks very natural when viewed from the floor.
Surprised they weren't all black.
Give em a few more years, they're still trying to hijack the rest of history.
If they weren't busy stealing the imaginary characters from stories as well, they might've gotten around to it by now.
They'll claim everyone but Nero, as he fits their white devil narrative perfectly.
"We ruled the world an shiett, then that blonde devil Nero come and colonized our kangdom and whitewashed the all da statchoos!"
Who would’ve thought, Europeans being portrayed as European, would be controversial topic. Imagine my shock.
"They are white, not big tidy goth girlfriend pale white" That should be how you explain the difference.
lol, that's a good one
Lmao. I'm a big tidy goth girlfriend... but I'm mediterranean colored
@@Bunnidove Whats the historical evidence? What's the proof?
Send a picture of your chest! 👁👁
@@Bunnidove Yeah, I knew an Indian, they're all sorts
Some of them are from Middle east or north africa.
The statue and the face recreation make Vespasian look like he was a chill, joke-cracking dad.
Pretty accurate, but they were all Black.
Do I detect sarcasm?
25:10 the reference used for Septimius Severus was probably the Severan Tondo, you can see how his face is round like on the painting, it isn't as accurate as a bust but is a good reference to know how dark his skin was compared to his wife and sons
*Royalty Now Studios* is a much better channel for recreating people of history. This smells AI
Her work is outstanding. I would love to see Metatron react to her videos.
@@mrchambers31 it’s not AI. Modeling was done in ZBrush & skin textures in Substance Painter. Panagiotis is a very talented 3D artist whose work is way better than even the best AI image generator.
Hey,
Just an observation from my part when it comes to your set from the audience perspective.
I think the tv on your left is cutting too much the frame, becoming a black void beside your head, specially when the videos with black background.
Maybe place a screensaver of like a dope Caravaggio piece while recording so it looks like a painting and the black goes away.
Keep up the vids, love your content!
"Where were we? ... how is that a language?"
English isn't a language. It's bits and pieces of 3 languages standing on each other's shoulders, wrapped in a trenchcoat, hiding in a dark alley waiting for other languages to walk past before beating them up and searching their pockets for loose vocabulary and spare grammar.
Gotta love Nero’s neckbeard, if he were alive today he’d be a Unix administrator.
Check out Royalty Now Studios. Becca does great work and has recreated several Emperors. One thing I appreciate about her is that she shows her working process and where she is pulling features from. She also gives some history behind the faces.
I didn't know they were this well shaved. Astonishing!
Even the women!
Could it be that tight curly hair was a convention to flatter the emperors? As it was the way the gods were portrayed in their statues.
Light-brown hair = dirty blonde?