I swear, nobody is ever happy. It always has to be perfect. If something isn’t exactly how THEY want it it’s garbage, soon enough we’ll be seeing videos on how the Xenonorph is the worst killer in dbd
Gawd I hate Feng players like that, who seem to be in your head, knowing your every move no matter how hard and many times you try to mindgame it... Almost as if they can see through walls...
Only reason I hate xeno is because of tail attacks, bc for me they either never ever hit regardless of how accurate the killer was, or they never miss even though the killers on the other side of the moon, although that might be an issue on my end
I tried playing him without perks didn't lose for 9 matches and with perks i didn't lose even a single time he is insane killer and also his counter is 50/50 you get hit or you miss he needs to be nerfed a little
One time i was right behind my teammate to protect him and for some reason the tail traverses me and it my teammate get hit this tail attack it's too weird
I'm a survivor main and I play Killer daily. Let's be honest, whenever we get a new character, killer or survivor, we're going to see that a tremendous load of times, in the beginning. I hate that people are ruining the fun of experimenting with a NEW. But they do it, every single time, as well. That's the only guarantee we have in DBD. 😂
As a killer main, I tried to understand. I played as a Survivor and realized what was happening. Average toxic behavior from killers who get some major power fantasy once they down you and begin to back and forth hump you as Xeno. Jokes on them, Xeno doesn't have junk, but the people who play him are toxic garbage.
I love Xeno and main him and I will admit the first week of playing him was glorious…. But then I realized the tale attacks are hard as F to land so I had to get better with him all tho i never body bump people I will celibate if I kill a flashlight user because it’s annoying AF when All 4 have them, I will say tho I’m a bit over excited when i down survivors who are on there 2 hook because I’m a massive alien fan
I played a lot of xeno. SWF are smart and build a route that they call out and path that has turrets. They don't scatter them randomly and use them smartly.
The thing is that weskers power takes tons of skill 2 use effectively but xeno is objectively extremely easy. It’s also frustrating that xeno is the one M2 killer that can at any moment can M1 or M2 without needing 2 charge anything. While the xeno hate is a little to much you can’t just say that everyone’s opinion is invalid without providing actual reasons
Xenomorph my be the best killer they’ve designed yet it’s truly phenomenal to play, I feel like I am the alien when I play him slinking around through tunnels and ambushing people with my bladed tail not to mention the amazing mori they knocked it out the park with this killer
I like this guy, instead of the common formal not-taking-any-sides-RUclipsr-crap, he's straight up picking a side and calling others out for their dumbass complaints. You've just gotten a new sub, keep it up, man.
3:05 I almost shit my pants on this part xd But for real this man has a point on everything, it´s not even that played, today I found like a huntress, a knight and I think one xeno and the rest I played killer
The problem is that the flamethrowers seem to do nothing, he can destroy it with his tail and even if it hits him for a good amount, he got his tail back in seconds
as someone who used to be a killer main i can see how its fun for killer but as a survivor main now i can see how some wouldnt find xeno fun but me personally i find him fun just needs a little tweaking but its a new killer so tweaks are probably gonna come anyways but imo singularity is way more broken and is strongest killer in the game has so many base kit perks can teleport anywhere on the map has the most insane map coverage with the pods people should use singularity and get actually good with him
The singularity has so much potential if yall killer mains cant use ur brains and play a killer properly thats on yall thats why I said and actually get good with him by knowing how to use him and ngl I will 5 gen u im really like that lmao😭😭
@mrpickles3 I will literally 5 gen u icl and if u dont see how good singularity really is are u sure uk how to play killer u probably just hold w and let bloodlust carry u anyways
@@TroubleSZN I lacked the patience to learn how to play him after the emps practically made me useless. I've never given him a fair shot, probably less than 8 matches with him.
I love this killer, I think the main issue is people use the turrets in stupid spots. Drag them to a loop you're going to run to when he leaves the fun box, your chase will last way longer. I'll be mad if these whining idiots get him nuked before a certain manga enthusist is touched.
i want to love xeno but the tail can be really frustrating! but i want to wait until i can learn how to counterplay the tail, because for now im kinda powerless against it and have no idea what to do since shes so new
Let's be real alien won't stay like this for long, every killer or survivor that comes to DBD either gets nerfed or reworked. Most likely they'll nerf his tunnels and fix his tail animation to know when he's gonna use it or not and his tunnels are broken if your able to go back in the one you just came out of otherwise the turrets are useless if he can just go back in like that and get his power back after he hits it.
I can understand where you’re coming from, but people complaining about facing Xenomorph after Xenomorph isn’t unreasonable. Also the Project W comparison isn’t exactly fair. Even when Project W was just released I can although Wesker was very common, you’d still get a decent variety. This is not the case with the Alien chapter. It has been non stop Xenomorphs which would ‘cause anyone to become bored.
Earlier today I had a game where I 4k'd as Xenomorph and someone in chat just kept spamming "need nerf" "need nerf". I would like to point out this is the survivor who kept trying to hide whenever I would come out of a tunnel near him, because he didn't know about killer instinct. So clearly he hadn't even tried learning to play against him and was already demanding a nerf XD
The no terror radius in tunnels, then come out next to a gen, killer instinct- with the 5% haste for 3 sec. add-on, lmao. I tell you (PGW) has never had this much value, imo. You can check all the Gens on the map in 45sec. with the tunnel, lol.
I have absolutely no problem with people playing him a lot because i wanna play him a lot. The only thing for me is that i think he needs a little cooldown for his tail attack. Im comparing it to Nemesis's whip attack for the most part but Xeno from my perspective at least has no cool down to it and can basically keep pace with survivors no matter what. Im only suggesting that they make his miss and attack cooldown a little longer to give survivors more distance. (Granted i haven't played him yet so maybe my opinion will change but until then this is what I think)
i agree with making the miss attack more punishing cause it was in the ptb, a missed attack put the xeno at like 1.2 m/s but now its 2.0 wich is far less punishing and gives survivors less room for counterplay you can hardly make it to another tile cause of that change i think that should be reverted but the cooldown on hit is fine IMO cause facing xeno is like facing huntress at close range but huntress has limited hatchets so shes punished for missing so i think its only fair for xeno to get a harsher punishment too
flame turrets havent rlly been a big deal in my matches there pretty easy to break but maybe i havent gone against good teams that know when and where to place them just yet@@justbrowsing4925
I hate him because 2 days ago when I played I got huntress, then wesker, then xeno 13 matches in a freaking row, and they got progressively nastier every match. I'm breaking from the game because it was so frustrating. I bought him on launch day and was like ok, this tail attack is pretty decent, when it actually hits someone. Then in my 13 matches it didn't seem like anyone missed a tail attack, even around a freaking corner. One prick hit me after I turned the corner and he tail attacked the open doorway behind me and still hit me. Imagine a huntress who does no attacks other then hatchets. That's the Alien. His tail is insane so alien players do nothing else because they don't need to. And the turrets are useless. They don't slow down anything, and even if they hit the Alien about 80% just walk up and destroy you anyways
Many survivors don't simply know the rules of survival. Adapt or die is as straightforward as it gets but a good amount of people can't fathom the idea and rather nerf the opposition or buff themselves to the point they don't have to and have the work done for them
@@z0ldic447 I don't like the w meta either but filler pallets rng is one of dbds biggest issues in my opinion.double and sometimes triple pallets spawn and is flat out bs. Also xeno has counter play such as zig zagging and crouching near a pallet. It takes time to learn to dodge. That's the adapt part. If someone just runs straight and doesn't look behind they'll die every time.
My problem with him isn't his playrate, but his lack of counters. In a chase i want to express my skill and to be able to outsmart the killer, but against him, EVEN if i make him whiff his tail attack, i simply do not have enough time to make it to another loop due to the cooldown not being punishing enough. Another problem is that he can build bloodlust while in crawler mode, so if you do manage to outsmart him, he can simply hold W on you until he's eventually to close to you for you to be able to dodge his attack. Most loops are simply too long for you to get more than 1-2 loops around them without being hit by a tail attack, and if they're too short then he can simply m1 you, and pre-dropping pallets doesn't work in most scenarios. Now i will get the same answer: "But the counter-play to him isn't looping, it's the turrets!!!". I know that and i think that's simply bad gameplay design. Why force a killer to either be an unstoppable killing machine or an useless M1 killer? Why not strike a balance between the two and make his tail attack counterable to allow survivors to express their skill? And the turrets are simply just not enough, he can even destroy the turret before he gets kicked out of crawler mode. It's like playing against a huntress with a constant rounded-up hatchet, who has 4.6 m/s, can build bloodlust and can M1 you at any time. Let's not also forget that the hitboxes are absolute BS and worse than Huntresses'. I'm not tired of him because i constantly play against him, i'm tired of him because his chase power feels overtuned. In comparison, Wesker has a TON of counterplay in chase and you can reliably outsmart him, but with alien? You make him whiff and in 5 seconds he's already behind you ready to tail attack you again. Ever since this killer came out 70% of my matches have been against him and they've just been horrible because of how little counterplay he has (besides the turrets). After having so many shitty rounds and being ready to quit, i had one match against a Wesker and for the first time in days i finally had fun on dead by daylight. Even playing against Huntress and Nemesis feels better, because they both have ques of winding up their M2 attack and both get punished for missing their attacks and BOTH have counterplays (greeding pallets).
man I don't usually main character in games like these but the first game I played with Xeno I knew I was gonna main it it's super fun to play with not too hard to get the hang of and not super strong to the point survivors dc when they face him and the best thing about it is I could twerk for the survivors that are waiting in exit gates or a survivor I let go I might actually buy the queen skin just to show off my thick alien ass and twerking skills
Xenomorph is fun af i love placing turrets and burning them while i over play my laugh, the counterplay for xeno is litterly nemesis. If you think they arent fun im sorry you are in the minority Also survivor mains opinons are invald because they never played the killer so to all of you p100 fengs and neas try killer walk a mile in our shoes for a round or two.
Maybe its because he has no counterplay. Its basically nemisis with this tentacle raised but moving at 4.6, can gain bloodlust, had a redused terror radius, can still m1 and his only counterplay only buys you 3 seconds of time becuse turrents dont do squat most of the time. Issue with xeno is that there is no tell as to whether or not she is using her power or not. Even if you try to predict to dodge the xeno can just m1 anyways. You don't even need to use your tail half the time because the pressure from the m2 is too prominent and requires no skill. Comparing xeno vs Wesker is a joke because wesker actually has counterplay and actually requires skill and you actually know when he is using his power meanwhile xeno is just a guessing game and half the time the survivor is going to lose. If your only argument is," I find him fun so he is fine" you have no argument. The issue with people hating wesker is not because he is op, it's because he is so prominent. Issue with xeno is there is nothing you can do against a somewhat decent one. You are clearly just biased because you like easy wins.
Everyone likes easy wins, xeno needs tweaking, but people are jumping the gun saying they already hate him because they played agaisnt him too much even though he's only been in the game for a week. That's my problem, the tail needs a few tweaks to make it more punishing for missing, but other than that the killer would be completely fine
@CycloopsDBD people say they hate him because they hate him. It being his first week is irrelevant. I first started dbd a year ago, my second match was a coldwind map with tombstone myers. He found me in seconds and moried me in a minute of gameplay, I've hated myers since. It wasn't myers first week. Tombstone is a garbage mechanic. People like easy wins isn't an excuse to have broken gameplay mechanics. Currently People including me hate alien because his freaking tail attack is absurd and the turrets meant to protect us don't do anything but alert us he's coming to tail attack us in a few seconds. By the time the turret goes off to burn him your already in range of his tail attack, and not getting away because the tail goes over pallets, windows, short walls and in some cases around a freaking corner. I took a tail hit in killer shack standing in the center if the room and he was out the window. It's too much, and people hate him because of it.
Turrets aren't there to guarantee you knocking him out of his power. Turrets are there to pre-run him. Either he has to deal with the turret giving you even more distance if you pre-ran, or he ignores the turret and has to chase you as an M1 Andy. If you're setting the turret next to the gen you're working on, you're using it wrong, of course you're not gonna get any value. Set them either on the tile you're gonna go when he comes out of the tunnel, or set them connecting the tile you're in to the tile you're going next.@@BotWhisperer
@@cristianberardi8093you gain zero distance getting rid of the turrents. I can't name how many times a survivors placed a turrent at a loop like you guys suggest but it did nothing most of the time. No distance gained or nothing. At best it was a minor nuisance. And I wasn't even running the turrent addons. Imagine if I had the stagger one for instance? And this was multiple times and these weren't bad survivors. They were p50 and above(except for a p10 but they were good too) running the best builds and knew how to loop but it didn't matter because of how broken the tail was. Had I used another other killer I would have probably lost most of those gains but with xeno it was easy 3ks(I like to let the last survivor go).
@@CycloopsDBDI agree too, hating a killer because they are so common is dumb, but the reason people hate xeno is because of that and the tail. It is like a skull merchant, no one likes going against a skill merchant but the saving grace is you hardly ever see her. But with xenomorph, she is extremely unfun to play against in her current state AND she is more common then wesker. The fix her tail could just be to give the tail a windup like every other killer. The current .2 secs she has now is impossible to counter unless you dodge before hand which does nothing because the xeno doesn't need to commit to her tail. Give her a charge time for her tail, increase the time it takes to get xeno out of her power and increase the duration to gain it back and it would be all good.
I LOVE to go against xeno. Every aspect of him is so C O O L. Like, that turrets are beeping indicating his presense in a tunnel. You WOULD think that xeno hiding inside it is unpredictable and hard to react/ but turrets is here to provide intersting counterplay not only to his tail, but to his stealt too. And I live to playing with his tail. It's like Nemesis, but you don't need to guess will he hit or pull it back. Xeno is always ready to hit and you need to constantly be ready to dodge. Yeah I need to get used to the fact that tail can go through pallet drop animation, but stiil. The most intersting thing about every killer is to learn ho to counter them, not mindlessly scream how OP they is. And also I like tactical pathin in the map. Like. I KNOW that his tail is strong attack, and I see turrets range around the map. So I need not only to loop properly but to understand how to lure xeno into the turret range, either for him to burn his tail or to waste time breacking turret. And' that's also great. Chases with xeno are the most tactical chases I ever had. Oh, and also I just REALLY love xeno as character. And I really like his animations. ESPECIALLY when he walks on two legs. It feels so creepy and intimidating So watch him walk around the map, see somewhere in the dictanse his tail... man, thats feels great. I cant hold the exited "THE ALIEN IS IN DBD MAN" scream everytime I hang on hook and look how he chases someone around
M1 while crawler, he can bloodless while in crawler, u can only do so much with turrents and choose where to put them, no sound que of when he can lounge his tail nor cooldown and can switch back and foward with m1,2 with no hesitation, and he is litterly Freddy with the caves being next to all the gens
Xeno is a good killer with a well designed power from a popular franchise. It's a very healthy and welcomed addition to the game. But killer queue times have been extremely long since release and still are at the time of writing this that I have been unable to play killer due to my busy schedule. I don't care about playing against the same killer time after time as survivor, but I am a killer main and solo survivor gameplay can only be fun for so long. Xeno being added is a double edge sword. It makes my favourite game more successful and likely to receive more content, but ever since it came out I've been unable to play my favourite game. :(
Xenomorph completely destroys the SoloQ. I played about 25 or 35 games against the xenomorph and I escaped only 5 or 6 times. It's easy to put pressure on the survivors while playing the xenomorph without any experience.
Xeno's hit boxes arnt the problem, it's the GAMES hitboxes that are the problem. There's a really details explanation of survivor hit boxes somewhere u should watch
@@CycloopsDBD Please do, because dying to a Xenomorph it's literally a punishment, especially for me that I just started playing DBD for the first couple of times ;(
people struggle to improve or adjust, as controversial as my claim is, people will continue to cry and whine instead of attempting to improve against a brand new killer. unless its skull merchant, theres no adjusting to the 3 genning camping playstyle
Bro i swear to god like i played maybe 6 games as a survivor and got in a game with him just once and it was fun asf i want more ppl to play him not less lmfao
To be honest, as a blight main (aka crack addict killer main) i despise the alien map with all my soul, and it almost feels like a spit to blight mains, its full of random walls, objects and random stuff with poor collision that made me go nuts, now i always bring a map offering to avoid the map, as a survivor its fine, but as a killer it kinda sucks. Next, regarding the alien killer, overall for me its okay, usually killers perks (or even powers!) get nerfed after a while, so Xenomorph shouldnt be the exception in this case, i feel like the Xenomorph is a mix of nemesis power with the demogorgon power, pretty much. Some of its perk might be unbalanced, so its just time to wait... On another stuff, i dont understand yet the power of the fire turrets, i dont even know if it is worth it to place some...
The xeno is by far my favorite having Michael Myers Freddy clown, pinhead and another killer forgot anyway have a good handful to license killers in life are all the killers I played xeno is absolutely excellent perfectly balanced not overly unfair, but not a complete destroyer of survivors
Most people hate xenomorph because 9/10 xeno killers grief/camp/tunnel… which is enough to win games with minimum experience. I just report them all and move on 😂
He 100% needs some kind of nerf I played 6 games as him and I gotten a 4k every time It might be me just being good at the game but every time there was at least one person above p40. I know you love him but he's so ridiculously easy and I think a rat probably could probably play him.
There is some truth to this, he does need a little more punishment for missing a tail attack. I hope his tail I'd bugged rn because there's basically no downside
Let's be honest here xeno has little counter play to him and add solo q to that mix and you spell disaster. Any loop is not viable cuz he can tailwhip or bloodlust you enough to get an M1. He can move to almost any generator in the map which let me guess they are all unsafe and in the open. Killer takes little to no skill and if you want the W without effort go with xeno.
Everyone will never be pleased, there will always be some who have something (valid or not) to complain about and unfortunately that's how it seems to go. REMOVE SKULL MERCHANT THOUGH 😢
his tail is like if the huntress was 24/7 ready to throw her hatchet while still moving at 4.6, if you vault/throw you get hit with m2, if you fake, hold w you get hit with m1, he has great anti-looping potential and great map cover, this cunt got it all
From my perspective, as a person who plays both sides. 'meaning my opinion is surely credible N O T' The fact the endless piling of bitching about Xenomorph started DAY 2 after release, when it took Wesker 2 months after release for the frustration to reach its boiling point speaks absolute volumes. I understand there are parts of the aliens kit that are indeed frustrating to deal with, but the fact we are jumping the gun THIS EARLY, saying that alien needs to be nerfed is obnoxious, People want the Alien nerfed into the ground, this I HEAVILY disagree with. I'm sick to the back teeth of BHVR pulling the stereotypical parental figure who tries to understand you, by nerfing a killer or survivor perk into the ground, rather than using conventional things such as making minor tweaks, WHICH THEY HAVE DONE IN THE PAST. They either make stupidly strong buffs 'Eruption' or nerf something into shadows of its former self 'Ruin' This same logic can be applied to killers specifically, I want MINOR tweaks to the Xenomorph, not BIG BOI NERFS. Meanwhile everyone wants them in the trash, while a certain drone based stalker walking down the isle like its a fucking fashion showcase has been left the same piss poor unfun state for ages. We chose to ignore her but direct our attention to a killer who's not even been out for a week? WHUT?
I am not a survivor main by any means but the problem with xeno is his power can’t be countered due to no slow down from his side…there is no indication he will use his tail or melee imagine if huntress didn’t pull back hatches or pyramid head slam his sword into the ground…when xeno is in crawler mode he should only be able to use tail to fix it
I’m not really a fan tbh. I won’t be a crybaby ab it he’s just not that fun to play against tbh at least in my opinion. But I love playing with and against stealth killers
@@CycloopsDBD 90% of games that I play as survivor is always against Wesker, he's just annoying to go up against and playing him as killer just guarantees you an easy game
Xenomorph is currently easily the best designed character. Her state currently is perfect, I swear if she gets nerfed because of whiny survivors, I will be infuriated.
I normally play survivor but Xeno is the reason why I’m trying killer out more, he’s so fun and I think he’s fine you just need to learn how to counter him properly not complain about him online because you lost your first match against him. But idc what people say imma play my alien doggy and have fun 😁
I swear, nobody is ever happy. It always has to be perfect. If something isn’t exactly how THEY want it it’s garbage, soon enough we’ll be seeing videos on how the Xenonorph is the worst killer in dbd
Exactly. Dbd community just complains no matter what if I was the devs i would say deal with it bc all the community do is complain
I'm happy but I wanted an Amanda like stealth killer.
Gawd I hate Feng players like that, who seem to be in your head, knowing your every move no matter how hard and many times you try to mindgame it... Almost as if they can see through walls...
tbf xeno queen is massive, its hard to mindgame when youre 2 meters long
I just hate Feng in general, her voice is so grating to hear.
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My bad bro you must of been the one i went against as Feng today
Only reason I hate xeno is because of tail attacks, bc for me they either never ever hit regardless of how accurate the killer was, or they never miss even though the killers on the other side of the moon, although that might be an issue on my end
Yeah felt this fr
I tried playing him without perks didn't lose for 9 matches and with perks i didn't lose even a single time he is insane killer and also his counter is 50/50 you get hit or you miss he needs to be nerfed a little
@@AfkArenaEnjoyer agreed
@@AfkArenaEnjoyerNope
One time i was right behind my teammate to protect him and for some reason the tail traverses me and it my teammate get hit this tail attack it's too weird
I'm a survivor main and I play Killer daily. Let's be honest, whenever we get a new character, killer or survivor, we're going to see that a tremendous load of times, in the beginning. I hate that people are ruining the fun of experimenting with a NEW. But they do it, every single time, as well. That's the only guarantee we have in DBD. 😂
As a killer main, I tried to understand. I played as a Survivor and realized what was happening.
Average toxic behavior from killers who get some major power fantasy once they down you and begin to back and forth hump you as Xeno.
Jokes on them, Xeno doesn't have junk, but the people who play him are toxic garbage.
I love Xeno and main him and I will admit the first week of playing him was glorious…. But then I realized the tale attacks are hard as F to land so I had to get better with him all tho i never body bump people I will celibate if I kill a flashlight user because it’s annoying AF when All 4 have them, I will say tho I’m a bit over excited when i down survivors who are on there 2 hook because I’m a massive alien fan
This argument is more about the amount rather then the killer being good or bad
I played a lot of xeno. SWF are smart and build a route that they call out and path that has turrets. They don't scatter them randomly and use them smartly.
The thing is that weskers power takes tons of skill 2 use effectively but xeno is objectively extremely easy. It’s also frustrating that xeno is the one M2 killer that can at any moment can M1 or M2 without needing 2 charge anything. While the xeno hate is a little to much you can’t just say that everyone’s opinion is invalid without providing actual reasons
Xenomorph my be the best killer they’ve designed yet it’s truly phenomenal to play, I feel like I am the alien when I play him slinking around through tunnels and ambushing people with my bladed tail not to mention the amazing mori they knocked it out the park with this killer
I like going against him
I’m going to play xeno for a looooong time till predator/yautja comes out
I like this guy, instead of the common formal not-taking-any-sides-RUclipsr-crap, he's straight up picking a side and calling others out for their dumbass complaints. You've just gotten a new sub, keep it up, man.
Maybe they should punish Xenomorphs missed tails. I love when they miss 3 times and I get no distance cus they can hit again 0.25seconds later
3:05 I almost shit my pants on this part xd
But for real this man has a point on everything, it´s not even that played, today I found like a huntress, a knight and I think one xeno and the rest I played killer
1:53 "MF🤌" I need this in a soundboard
The problem is that the flamethrowers seem to do nothing, he can destroy it with his tail and even if it hits him for a good amount, he got his tail back in seconds
as someone who used to be a killer main i can see how its fun for killer but as a survivor main now i can see how some wouldnt find xeno fun but me personally i find him fun just needs a little tweaking but its a new killer so tweaks are probably gonna come anyways but imo singularity is way more broken and is strongest killer in the game has so many base kit perks can teleport anywhere on the map has the most insane map coverage with the pods people should use singularity and get actually good with him
Lol, I used singularity and did good for like 3 matches then got absolutely dogwalked by emps. But then again, I don't know what I'm doing with him.
Survivors just need a brain. I play survivor only but most lack any intelligence at all.
The singularity has so much potential if yall killer mains cant use ur brains and play a killer properly thats on yall thats why I said and actually get good with him by knowing how to use him and ngl I will 5 gen u im really like that lmao😭😭
@mrpickles3 I will literally 5 gen u icl and if u dont see how good singularity really is are u sure uk how to play killer u probably just hold w and let bloodlust carry u anyways
@@TroubleSZN I lacked the patience to learn how to play him after the emps practically made me useless. I've never given him a fair shot, probably less than 8 matches with him.
I love this killer, I think the main issue is people use the turrets in stupid spots. Drag them to a loop you're going to run to when he leaves the fun box, your chase will last way longer.
I'll be mad if these whining idiots get him nuked before a certain manga enthusist is touched.
I would just like to play against it all I que into are Sadako and Huntress players. I haven't seen xeno yet.
I been getting xeno Myers singularity and death slinger
i want to love xeno but the tail can be really frustrating! but i want to wait until i can learn how to counterplay the tail, because for now im kinda powerless against it and have no idea what to do since shes so new
Let's be real alien won't stay like this for long, every killer or survivor that comes to DBD either gets nerfed or reworked. Most likely they'll nerf his tunnels and fix his tail animation to know when he's gonna use it or not and his tunnels are broken if your able to go back in the one you just came out of otherwise the turrets are useless if he can just go back in like that and get his power back after he hits it.
I can understand where you’re coming from, but people complaining about facing Xenomorph after Xenomorph isn’t unreasonable.
Also the Project W comparison isn’t exactly fair. Even when Project W was just released I can although Wesker was very common, you’d still get a decent variety. This is not the case with the Alien chapter. It has been non stop Xenomorphs which would ‘cause anyone to become bored.
The xenomorph is absolutely fun to play as but i can see how it annoying to play as just because of how amazing its power is
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Earlier today I had a game where I 4k'd as Xenomorph and someone in chat just kept spamming "need nerf" "need nerf".
I would like to point out this is the survivor who kept trying to hide whenever I would come out of a tunnel near him, because he didn't know about killer instinct. So clearly he hadn't even tried learning to play against him and was already demanding a nerf XD
The no terror radius in tunnels, then come out next to a gen, killer instinct- with the 5% haste for 3 sec. add-on, lmao. I tell you (PGW) has never had this much value, imo. You can check all the Gens on the map in 45sec. with the tunnel, lol.
I have absolutely no problem with people playing him a lot because i wanna play him a lot. The only thing for me is that i think he needs a little cooldown for his tail attack. Im comparing it to Nemesis's whip attack for the most part but Xeno from my perspective at least has no cool down to it and can basically keep pace with survivors no matter what. Im only suggesting that they make his miss and attack cooldown a little longer to give survivors more distance. (Granted i haven't played him yet so maybe my opinion will change but until then this is what I think)
i agree with making the miss attack more punishing cause it was in the ptb, a missed attack put the xeno at like 1.2 m/s but now its 2.0 wich is far less punishing and gives survivors less room for counterplay you can hardly make it to another tile cause of that change i think that should be reverted but the cooldown on hit is fine IMO cause facing xeno is like facing huntress at close range but huntress has limited hatchets so shes punished for missing so i think its only fair for xeno to get a harsher punishment too
I mean the main thing is you can shut down the tail with a flame turret. Nemesis doesn’t really have a drawback. Even infection has a benefit.
flame turrets havent rlly been a big deal in my matches there pretty easy to break but maybe i havent gone against good teams that know when and where to place them just yet@@justbrowsing4925
I hate him because 2 days ago when I played I got huntress, then wesker, then xeno 13 matches in a freaking row, and they got progressively nastier every match. I'm breaking from the game because it was so frustrating.
I bought him on launch day and was like ok, this tail attack is pretty decent, when it actually hits someone.
Then in my 13 matches it didn't seem like anyone missed a tail attack, even around a freaking corner. One prick hit me after I turned the corner and he tail attacked the open doorway behind me and still hit me.
Imagine a huntress who does no attacks other then hatchets. That's the Alien.
His tail is insane so alien players do nothing else because they don't need to.
And the turrets are useless. They don't slow down anything, and even if they hit the Alien about 80% just walk up and destroy you anyways
Many survivors don't simply know the rules of survival. Adapt or die is as straightforward as it gets but a good amount of people can't fathom the idea and rather nerf the opposition or buff themselves to the point they don't have to and have the work done for them
so adapt again with just holding w yeeey this is so efin fun..... adapt my ass....
@@z0ldic447 I don't like the w meta either but filler pallets rng is one of dbds biggest issues in my opinion.double and sometimes triple pallets spawn and is flat out bs. Also xeno has counter play such as zig zagging and crouching near a pallet. It takes time to learn to dodge. That's the adapt part. If someone just runs straight and doesn't look behind they'll die every time.
Its ok more $30 feing skins are coming out this will save the game
Lmaooo frl@@hardboiled2987
Frl though I play both sides u have to learn to adapt against every killer
I have no problem with xenomorph, I just literally cannot get the new map I can't even get map offerings for it
The reach of the tail attack is ridiculous. Looks a bit broken to me.
The range isn't the problem, the movement speed is
My problem with him isn't his playrate, but his lack of counters. In a chase i want to express my skill and to be able to outsmart the killer, but against him, EVEN if i make him whiff his tail attack, i simply do not have enough time to make it to another loop due to the cooldown not being punishing enough. Another problem is that he can build bloodlust while in crawler mode, so if you do manage to outsmart him, he can simply hold W on you until he's eventually to close to you for you to be able to dodge his attack. Most loops are simply too long for you to get more than 1-2 loops around them without being hit by a tail attack, and if they're too short then he can simply m1 you, and pre-dropping pallets doesn't work in most scenarios. Now i will get the same answer: "But the counter-play to him isn't looping, it's the turrets!!!". I know that and i think that's simply bad gameplay design. Why force a killer to either be an unstoppable killing machine or an useless M1 killer? Why not strike a balance between the two and make his tail attack counterable to allow survivors to express their skill? And the turrets are simply just not enough, he can even destroy the turret before he gets kicked out of crawler mode. It's like playing against a huntress with a constant rounded-up hatchet, who has 4.6 m/s, can build bloodlust and can M1 you at any time. Let's not also forget that the hitboxes are absolute BS and worse than Huntresses'. I'm not tired of him because i constantly play against him, i'm tired of him because his chase power feels overtuned. In comparison, Wesker has a TON of counterplay in chase and you can reliably outsmart him, but with alien? You make him whiff and in 5 seconds he's already behind you ready to tail attack you again. Ever since this killer came out 70% of my matches have been against him and they've just been horrible because of how little counterplay he has (besides the turrets). After having so many shitty rounds and being ready to quit, i had one match against a Wesker and for the first time in days i finally had fun on dead by daylight. Even playing against Huntress and Nemesis feels better, because they both have ques of winding up their M2 attack and both get punished for missing their attacks and BOTH have counterplays (greeding pallets).
EXACTLY....but you know...most content creators are killers so its good to get 4 k every game bcz thats what people want too see....
mad cuz bad
man I don't usually main character in games like these but the first game I played with Xeno I knew I was gonna main it it's super fun to play with not too hard to get the hang of and not super strong to the point survivors dc when they face him and the best thing about it is I could twerk for the survivors that are waiting in exit gates or a survivor I let go I might actually buy the queen skin just to show off my thick alien ass and twerking skills
I personally just played him today and I started trash but I had a lot of fun
Xenomorph is fun af i love placing turrets and burning them while i over play my laugh, the counterplay for xeno is litterly nemesis. If you think they arent fun im sorry you are in the minority
Also survivor mains opinons are invald because they never played the killer so to all of you p100 fengs and neas try killer walk a mile in our shoes for a round or two.
Maybe its because he has no counterplay. Its basically nemisis with this tentacle raised but moving at 4.6, can gain bloodlust, had a redused terror radius, can still m1 and his only counterplay only buys you 3 seconds of time becuse turrents dont do squat most of the time. Issue with xeno is that there is no tell as to whether or not she is using her power or not. Even if you try to predict to dodge the xeno can just m1 anyways. You don't even need to use your tail half the time because the pressure from the m2 is too prominent and requires no skill. Comparing xeno vs Wesker is a joke because wesker actually has counterplay and actually requires skill and you actually know when he is using his power meanwhile xeno is just a guessing game and half the time the survivor is going to lose. If your only argument is," I find him fun so he is fine" you have no argument. The issue with people hating wesker is not because he is op, it's because he is so prominent. Issue with xeno is there is nothing you can do against a somewhat decent one. You are clearly just biased because you like easy wins.
Everyone likes easy wins, xeno needs tweaking, but people are jumping the gun saying they already hate him because they played agaisnt him too much even though he's only been in the game for a week. That's my problem, the tail needs a few tweaks to make it more punishing for missing, but other than that the killer would be completely fine
@CycloopsDBD people say they hate him because they hate him. It being his first week is irrelevant.
I first started dbd a year ago, my second match was a coldwind map with tombstone myers. He found me in seconds and moried me in a minute of gameplay, I've hated myers since. It wasn't myers first week.
Tombstone is a garbage mechanic. People like easy wins isn't an excuse to have broken gameplay mechanics.
Currently People including me hate alien because his freaking tail attack is absurd and the turrets meant to protect us don't do anything but alert us he's coming to tail attack us in a few seconds. By the time the turret goes off to burn him your already in range of his tail attack, and not getting away because the tail goes over pallets, windows, short walls and in some cases around a freaking corner.
I took a tail hit in killer shack standing in the center if the room and he was out the window. It's too much, and people hate him because of it.
Turrets aren't there to guarantee you knocking him out of his power. Turrets are there to pre-run him. Either he has to deal with the turret giving you even more distance if you pre-ran, or he ignores the turret and has to chase you as an M1 Andy. If you're setting the turret next to the gen you're working on, you're using it wrong, of course you're not gonna get any value. Set them either on the tile you're gonna go when he comes out of the tunnel, or set them connecting the tile you're in to the tile you're going next.@@BotWhisperer
@@cristianberardi8093you gain zero distance getting rid of the turrents. I can't name how many times a survivors placed a turrent at a loop like you guys suggest but it did nothing most of the time. No distance gained or nothing. At best it was a minor nuisance. And I wasn't even running the turrent addons. Imagine if I had the stagger one for instance? And this was multiple times and these weren't bad survivors. They were p50 and above(except for a p10 but they were good too) running the best builds and knew how to loop but it didn't matter because of how broken the tail was. Had I used another other killer I would have probably lost most of those gains but with xeno it was easy 3ks(I like to let the last survivor go).
@@CycloopsDBDI agree too, hating a killer because they are so common is dumb, but the reason people hate xeno is because of that and the tail. It is like a skull merchant, no one likes going against a skill merchant but the saving grace is you hardly ever see her. But with xenomorph, she is extremely unfun to play against in her current state AND she is more common then wesker. The fix her tail could just be to give the tail a windup like every other killer. The current .2 secs she has now is impossible to counter unless you dodge before hand which does nothing because the xeno doesn't need to commit to her tail. Give her a charge time for her tail, increase the time it takes to get xeno out of her power and increase the duration to gain it back and it would be all good.
I LOVE to go against xeno. Every aspect of him is so C O O L. Like, that turrets are beeping indicating his presense in a tunnel. You WOULD think that xeno hiding inside it is unpredictable and hard to react/ but turrets is here to provide intersting counterplay not only to his tail, but to his stealt too.
And I live to playing with his tail. It's like Nemesis, but you don't need to guess will he hit or pull it back. Xeno is always ready to hit and you need to constantly be ready to dodge. Yeah I need to get used to the fact that tail can go through pallet drop animation, but stiil. The most intersting thing about every killer is to learn ho to counter them, not mindlessly scream how OP they is.
And also I like tactical pathin in the map. Like. I KNOW that his tail is strong attack, and I see turrets range around the map. So I need not only to loop properly but to understand how to lure xeno into the turret range, either for him to burn his tail or to waste time breacking turret. And' that's also great. Chases with xeno are the most tactical chases I ever had.
Oh, and also I just REALLY love xeno as character. And I really like his animations. ESPECIALLY when he walks on two legs. It feels so creepy and intimidating So watch him walk around the map, see somewhere in the dictanse his tail... man, thats feels great. I cant hold the exited "THE ALIEN IS IN DBD MAN" scream everytime I hang on hook and look how he chases someone around
Stop lying xeno main :)
@@kami3964 believe it or not But I didn't play a single game as xeno. I'm to afraid to play him badly and ruin my love for him XDDD
Xeno is fun and is my main
M1 while crawler, he can bloodless while in crawler, u can only do so much with turrents and choose where to put them, no sound que of when he can lounge his tail nor cooldown and can switch back and foward with m1,2 with no hesitation, and he is litterly Freddy with the caves being next to all the gens
There's a loud "swoosh" sound that plays a second before the Xeno strikes its tail + it raises its butt before striking
Skill issue on your part
I don't see the problem with M1 while crawler
Xeno is a good killer with a well designed power from a popular franchise. It's a very healthy and welcomed addition to the game. But killer queue times have been extremely long since release and still are at the time of writing this that I have been unable to play killer due to my busy schedule. I don't care about playing against the same killer time after time as survivor, but I am a killer main and solo survivor gameplay can only be fun for so long. Xeno being added is a double edge sword. It makes my favourite game more successful and likely to receive more content, but ever since it came out I've been unable to play my favourite game. :(
Maybe it's cause I'm on console but my Queue times are pretty standard.
Xenomorph completely destroys the SoloQ. I played about 25 or 35 games against the xenomorph and I escaped only 5 or 6 times. It's easy to put pressure on the survivors while playing the xenomorph without any experience.
@@ProPlayer-qj5seto be fair, that’s most good killers
@@burgerbandit3646Complete opposite for me and honestly I’m happy the other guy mentioned because I thought I was the only one experiencing this
for a moment i thought this man would have a low tier god moment
I hate xeno with save the best for last, that’s it for me. He has insane hitboxes imo
Xeno's hit boxes arnt the problem, it's the GAMES hitboxes that are the problem. There's a really details explanation of survivor hit boxes somewhere u should watch
For some reason? Bruv, the hitbox, it's really annoying, especially the tail attack :/
Tail Attack I'm pretty sure is bugged right now, when the patch releases I'll make a followup video
@@CycloopsDBD Please do, because dying to a Xenomorph it's literally a punishment, especially for me that I just started playing DBD for the first couple of times ;(
i think they should go play civilization instead
I’m a killer main but I played survivor to test this
I got a trapper game
people struggle to improve or adjust, as controversial as my claim is, people will continue to cry and whine instead of attempting to improve against a brand new killer. unless its skull merchant, theres no adjusting to the 3 genning camping playstyle
I love this video. Shit is hilarious, lol. 😂
I just want the hype to die out so i dont have to see xeno every match i go into
Bro i swear to god like i played maybe 6 games as a survivor and got in a game with him just once and it was fun asf i want more ppl to play him not less lmfao
@@worldgameplay1905 not saying facing xeno isn't fun, it just gets repetitive after a while
I love Xenomorph.... The way I see it if you don't play both survivor and killer then you have the right to speak about it
Im a prestige 100 Feng and and prestige 35 huntress main, and I do not find Xenomorph fun to play against at all.
@@gootlezthat's your opinion maybe go try playing them
@@IHaveInsomnia333 Not finna play as a killer that isn’t my play style
@@gootlez so don't judge it if you haven't even played it yet
@@IHaveInsomnia333 I can’t judge nazis then because I haven’t been one right?
To be honest, as a blight main (aka crack addict killer main) i despise the alien map with all my soul, and it almost feels like a spit to blight mains, its full of random walls, objects and random stuff with poor collision that made me go nuts, now i always bring a map offering to avoid the map, as a survivor its fine, but as a killer it kinda sucks.
Next, regarding the alien killer, overall for me its okay, usually killers perks (or even powers!) get nerfed after a while, so Xenomorph shouldnt be the exception in this case, i feel like the Xenomorph is a mix of nemesis power with the demogorgon power, pretty much.
Some of its perk might be unbalanced, so its just time to wait... On another stuff, i dont understand yet the power of the fire turrets, i dont even know if it is worth it to place some...
The xeno is by far my favorite having Michael Myers Freddy clown, pinhead and another killer forgot anyway have a good handful to license killers in life are all the killers I played xeno is absolutely excellent perfectly balanced not overly unfair, but not a complete destroyer of survivors
You can counter xeno also and fun to play against
Xenomorph is probably the best killer imo, love her so much
They aren't female lmao
@@detectivebrown6211 the xenomorph, yes, is a female
@@detectivebrown6211they are female lmfao have you not seen any basic Alien lore?
@@CandyFlossEnjoyerthey don't have a gender
@@t3li5pretty sure the drones are male
You're so real for this
Most people hate xenomorph because 9/10 xeno killers grief/camp/tunnel… which is enough to win games with minimum experience. I just report them all and move on 😂
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Not everyone finds fighting the same killer 15 times in a row fun sorry buddy
They are him because he has anti loop
Fr, xeno just released and your complaining people play it too much. I’ve gone against him 2 times and have had a fun time.
He 100% needs some kind of nerf I played 6 games as him and I gotten a 4k every time It might be me just being good at the game but every time there was at least one person above p40. I know you love him but he's so ridiculously easy and I think a rat probably could probably play him.
There is some truth to this, he does need a little more punishment for missing a tail attack. I hope his tail I'd bugged rn because there's basically no downside
100% agree with you can make a xeno miss a tail hit but it takes like a second to use his tail again
Let's be honest here xeno has little counter play to him and add solo q to that mix and you spell disaster. Any loop is not viable cuz he can tailwhip or bloodlust you enough to get an M1. He can move to almost any generator in the map which let me guess they are all unsafe and in the open. Killer takes little to no skill and if you want the W without effort go with xeno.
Joking the tail, crouching, and fakes. But the tail needs tweaking
Juking the tail*
no wind up nemesis whip = lowkey busted
It can be disabled though.
the reason people hate xeno is that all the survivors suffer skill issues
This
Why? Because im a dbd player and generic content creator #342 told me to dislike him (I am easily influenced)
(Average JRM viewer)
Everyone will never be pleased, there will always be some who have something (valid or not) to complain about and unfortunately that's how it seems to go.
REMOVE SKULL MERCHANT THOUGH 😢
its so much fun to play against him i love it tbh
Frl i had a game today where I was getting. Turret Nd he came out the tunnel my ass took off lmao and i was Feng bro gave up
I don't know where you got the entire community.. Like as far as I saw everyone is fine with him
I disclaim that it's mostly survivor mains complaining they face him top much
Too much*
@@CycloopsDBD ah I see, damn can't believe people can't play a few rounds to adapt
@readytopay1488 that's my main point yeah, the killer hasn't been out for enough time to make a formulated opinion
wesker is a buggy mess lmfao
The only reason survivor mains hate xenomorph is because they don’t have 3 brain cells to fake pallets and make him use his tail
his tail is like if the huntress was 24/7 ready to throw her hatchet while still moving at 4.6, if you vault/throw you get hit with m2, if you fake, hold w you get hit with m1, he has great anti-looping potential and great map cover, this cunt got it all
Easy for a typical fanboy to say because there your favorite but imagine nurse, legion or spirit all game your tune would change too lol
I had to sub w vid sound like me I would of said worse abt the survivors Main ngl
From my perspective, as a person who plays both sides. 'meaning my opinion is surely credible N O T'
The fact the endless piling of bitching about Xenomorph started DAY 2 after release, when it took Wesker 2 months after release for the frustration to reach its boiling point speaks absolute volumes.
I understand there are parts of the aliens kit that are indeed frustrating to deal with, but the fact we are jumping the gun THIS EARLY, saying that alien needs to be nerfed is obnoxious, People want the Alien nerfed into the ground, this I HEAVILY disagree with.
I'm sick to the back teeth of BHVR pulling the stereotypical parental figure who tries to understand you, by nerfing a killer or survivor perk into the ground, rather than using conventional things such as making minor tweaks, WHICH THEY HAVE DONE IN THE PAST.
They either make stupidly strong buffs 'Eruption' or nerf something into shadows of its former self 'Ruin'
This same logic can be applied to killers specifically, I want MINOR tweaks to the Xenomorph, not BIG BOI NERFS.
Meanwhile everyone wants them in the trash, while a certain drone based stalker walking down the isle like its a fucking fashion showcase has been left the same piss poor unfun state for ages.
We chose to ignore her but direct our attention to a killer who's not even been out for a week? WHUT?
Me a xenomorph player makes me sad ):
xenomorph is bad
Me that sounds like a issue not an issme
I am not a survivor main by any means but the problem with xeno is his power can’t be countered due to no slow down from his side…there is no indication he will use his tail or melee imagine if huntress didn’t pull back hatches or pyramid head slam his sword into the ground…when xeno is in crawler mode he should only be able to use tail to fix it
I’m not really a fan tbh. I won’t be a crybaby ab it he’s just not that fun to play against tbh at least in my opinion. But I love playing with and against stealth killers
It’s a her…but go on
A regular Xenomorph drone doesn't have any gender. Unless you're playing as the Queen outfit
Mate you think Weskers fun, hope you get help soon ☺️
What does this mean? Wesker isn't fun?
skill issue
@@dededede9257 Must be
@@CycloopsDBD 90% of games that I play as survivor is always against Wesker, he's just annoying to go up against and playing him as killer just guarantees you an easy game
its not fun to play against a killer that can punch u OVER loops if he wants to
say what you want, survivor main's, but this man is speaking facts!
Xenomorph is currently easily the best designed character. Her state currently is perfect, I swear if she gets nerfed because of whiny survivors, I will be infuriated.
Objectively incorrect
@@n0t_zat0ichi29 Mad cause you're too bad at the game to counter her lmao
@Imaginaryhooper Uh huh, sure buddy.
I normally play survivor but Xeno is the reason why I’m trying killer out more, he’s so fun and I think he’s fine you just need to learn how to counter him properly not complain about him online because you lost your first match against him.
But idc what people say imma play my alien doggy and have fun 😁
I had a swf squad dc because I played the new killer, it was my first game with him :/
Fr tho
Incel brains wut? Are you just regurgitating twitter terms you dont know the meaning of lol?
I know what incel means. And I have banned using Twitter terminology.
Xeno is fun to play and play against but wesker is just annoying
Seeing wesker accidentally vault is funny though. His dash hitbox is so annoying , dude gets you a mile away
Nope it's the reverse
L
The xenomorph isnt the problem. The problem is your on twitter.