One quick comment. As I was editing this together I noticed that this black version is very reflective. So that's something I'll be looking at more when I get to the final review. Especially how it might compare to other glossy black watches.
I'm wearing my Mako 2 as I watch this and it is one I will never sell. It was the first diver I bought, I paid 115.00 USD on Amazon and I simply love it. I've wanted to buy a nicer bracelet but the stock one is super comfortable. I like Orients products.
I have many Orient Star watches, and is so sad and anoying the pictures and videos cant make justice of the beauty and impressive finishing of all, I know people will say "thats too much for an Orient" but im sure this watch worth every dollar, the finishing looks superb, the lume should be as amazing as the first diver (one of the best in the market) and the green dial is just stunning. People you should begin to treat and value Orient Star as they deserve, around the same cstegory as Tissot, Hamilton, Longines, Laco... How many more times they have to prove they do amazing well done watches?
You instantly went up 100 notches in my book for the Glock cleaning pad or whatever that is. Love it! Awesome diver too, Orient is a great value brand that actually delivers and performs QC.
The new Orient Star diver is just beautiful! I own an Orient Star Sports Outdoor pvd w/ grey dial and it's a keeper... absolutely bulletproof! I'm very impressed with the brand and have wanted one of their dive watches. However well executed, the 43mm size of the other OS diver has kept me from purchasing one. My Seiko Williard and Monster already fill the larger diver slots in my collection. The LE version of the OS 1964 is nice but is too much like the Zodiac Super Sea Wolf 53 Skin that I already own. I really love the classic monochrome look of this piece, it has a refined elegance to it. The finishing looks beautiful and the 41mm size is just about perfect. I've been eyeballing the black-dialed Longines Hydroconquest 41mm and this looks like a very attractive alternative. I look forward to your full review, thanks!
Very nice watch. Still have and love my old Orient Mako XL, with the orange bezel, big and beautiful for my 8" wrist and though not İSO has accompanied me diving in the Mediterranean, the Aegean, Marmara and Black seas for many years. Anyway I have a lot of divers and this one Orient diver is definitely a favourite. Great intro Shane, look forward to the in depth review.
@@jjsifo1 Yes, they really make great watches. Of course mine has the old non handwinding shake to wake. Lol. Yours has the newer hacking and handwinding movement, I'm sure. But the old XL is very reliable. I got mine back around 2009 I think or maybe a bit later. Still 12 or 13 years with no problems. I even brought it for a service a few years ago and the watchmaker said, it didn't need one, but he changed the gaskets and re-lubricated it. Good for another 13 years. It might last longer than me!
I go to Japan often, Orient watches are very popular and are high quality. It's just a smaller less known brand that's why you don't see everyone talking about them. They have amazing craftsmanship and will last a lifetime expecialy the star series. This will be my next watch definitely a classic bond looking style.
Very nice. I do like the handset and bezel of the original limited release 1964, but as you said, good luck finding one. Liked the casual nature of this video.
I think that's partly why I never paid much attention to it. I saw it on Orient Japans site, and saw a very limited release and figured I'd never find one. So wasn't much point looking into it more.
Great review Shane. The Teal for me! Never had an Orient for 1, never had a Power Reserve Indicator for 2, and I can go 40 mm to 50 mm on a 6 1/2” wrist. So, thanks. Everything else is TOO BIG…😭 (lol)
Nice unboxing Shane, appreciated it. Also glad you got the black you were hoping for since you don't currently have a black diver but you know I thought the pictures at Tus of the teal version princess it to be the real deal and different than your new Seiko. Look forward to the full review.
Just for the sake of not having so many watches after I sent out my collection a little bit I think this is going to be on one of my second back up my collection list
Because of this channel, I bought the Orient Star Diver in blue with the Pepsi bezel. It's a great dive watch to dive with! I'm not sure this new watch will be worth it. If anything, the new one looks more conventional.
I look forward to the full review. I already have the Orient Star Diver (plus a Ray II, Kamasu, two Triton/Neptunes and a Triton Lite). I like the slightly smaller size of this new OS, but it may be adding even more redundancy to my collection.
It's the lighting. It's a very thin silver hand, so it was just reflecting the darkroom back at the camera. In normal lighting conditions is easier to pick up. One interesting thing is that this is the first Orient Star I've seen where the power reserve wasn't recessed with a grooved texture. It's just printed directly on the glossy black mirror dial, making it much more subtle.
I noticed the power reserve hand. This may be a small detail but it’s such a strange choice (instead of one which matches the hands) that I’ve lost interest in this watch.
Nice vid, thanks for that Shane! I like it in black. Vintage but modern look, Orient did a great job! And the best: The ugly power reserve doesn't stand out that much 😀 Nice unboxing, go on 👍
Nice pickup Shane. No need to do a full comparison, but it would be interesting to see it alongside a 1st gen Triton. I think this could be the watch for people who miss the 1st gen and who feel the 2nd is too much of a downgrade. Looking forward to your thoughts.
Really pretty watch but the price might be a bit high. Citizen just released the titanium fujitsubo diver with very similar styling and specs and that costs around 700 dolars with the bracelet. This watch sits right in the middle of the newly released citizen and the seiko 62mas reissue. I think that is a tough position to be in for a watch because you can pay a bit less and get the citizen or pay a bit more and get the 62 mas.
Looks like everything seemed right, especially on the dimensions and the dressier finishing. The only thing that is a little bit off (just my personal preference) would be the choice of hands set.
My first reaction was "meh", but even just a couple of minutes later I was already thinking "that's really nice!" And yeah, the teal looks good, but the black has a more subtle appeal.
Hello there! Nice first impressions. I've purchased the first edition two months ago and I'm happy with it, but some things irritate me and I'm still not sure the price is justified. I can't wait to hear your thoughts about this 2nd edition.
Like the look of this Shane bit out of my bracket at the moment I just hope I can get it the the Uk without importing it due to the ridiculous fees we have to pay!
IMHO, the RE-AU0602E has the much better dial colour. =quote=This green version is is a matte green dial with a matching matte green bezel surface. The green gradation on the dial is inspired by the Ryusendo Cave in Iwate Prefecture, Japan, thought by some to be the most beautiful and mysterious limestone cavern in the world. This model reflects the spirit of the divers who dive deep into the underground lakes to survey the cave and unlock its mysteries.=unquote=
Huh, I feel that could be a $400 Vostok if Vostok ever decided to make a $400 model. It's because of the bracelet style, and how it's so distinctly -roughly- contrastfully fitted, the unconventional retro looking dial, where also everything is printed, the simple, no nonsense knurling on the crown also, the bezel insert also, it just being a bit understated. And I'm not saying that to diss either of these brands. Vostok has its own charme and place in the watch world.
Shame Shane. I bought the Orient Star Diver on your recommendation and now you change your mind? How dare you lol. But seriously I love it and prefer the skeletonized hands over these Mercedes hands. And one thing you were not lying about was the lume. It's incredible. Does this new JDM version have that same great lume? Anyway I love my Star Diver!
Haven't quite changed my mind... still love the orignal diver. In fact my gut reaction is that I like it better then the 1964, but I'll give it time to see. So far lume seems to be good, but I don't think it will be as good as the original diver. The indices are really small, so not as much lume is applied.
No, no one has mentioned anything. With these sorts of impromptu videos I do tend to speak a bit faster. Just because I'm focusing on multiple things at once. Although for my more recent reviews I'm not sure.
I don't like this one as much as the other Orient Star diver you have, The other Orient Star that you have has unique indices and a unique style to it.
Question: Would a San Martin BB58 homage be tacky these days? I think it is a beautiful watch but I''m not sure if I'm ready to pull the trigger on it.... Looking for the green model.
That's a very classy looking diver, def. has a Seiko vibe to it. I'm not a fan of the power reserve though, seems to be a pretty common Orient Star feature?
At this point the power reserve is a "signature feature" for Orient Star. They seem to be commited to it, as it seperates them from most other watches in the same price range. Or at the very least it gives them something different from their Seiko cousins.
Cool "hit-man" gloves, bro! 😂 Jk ❤ your channel, & LOVE Orient. Don't have an OS, and DON'T NEED ONE!!!!!! Someone help me! Help!! Don't let me buy an Orient Star!😂
What bugs me is that even if its a reissue, they could gave went with applied markers, as those small dots on the dial look really weird. But it just might be me with my "applied markers only" rule
Orient Star is the higher-up brand of Orient. Kind of like Grand Seiko is for Seiko, but not near the same quality level as that. Technically they are separate companies. With Seiko Watches is owned by The Seiko Holdings Corporation, and Orient Is owned by The Seiko Epson Corporation. But they are connected overall by the larger Seiko Group. Honestly how it all works is a little confusing. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seiko_Group
Wow, you really went to town with the editing here, great job! Unfortunately, the watch itself is not up to par with your work… Sandwiched between a Star Wars-like block of text and a power indicator whose black hand renders it completely useless, the three hands of this watch are so disproportionate they look flimsy. At least the other color variants make it more legible, but still a har pass from me.
The only problem here is, this watch should be a value proposition. It’s not. The Seiko watches you compared it to in the beginning are just nicer and better quality
100% agree. Now I haven't had it long, so I want to give it more time before I make final judgement. Yet whats usualy great about Orient is that they punch way above their weight in terms of value, and so far I'm not quite seeing that here.
For years I've thought of the Submariner as the 1911 of the watch world. It's an older iconic classic that multiple companies took inspiration from and have made their own versions of. To the point, you could almost say a Subby is a type of dive watch and not just a single watch. Just like with the 1911. Colt is the one that created it, but these days most companies have their own versions of it. So if someone says they have a 1911, you know what kind it is, but you usually ask what brand.
I'm considering picking up this watch in turquoise (I think they call it "pond"). But also the Seiko Glacier MMR looks amazing too. Which do you think is a higher quality watch?
Eventually, I'll do a comparison video, but it will be a while out. That said... They are close, but I think the Seiko has a slight edge in terms of quality. Especially with the case and bracelet having Seiko's Diashield coating applied. Personally, I like the MMR's case design better, as well as the handset. The Orient's are a tad flat. Plus you have 70hrs of power over 50. Although there are some things the Orient does better. Better lume. More comfortable thanks to a smaller case. As well as the Power Reserve meter, which the Seiko doesn't have at all.
@@RelativeTime Interesting! How do the bracelet and the bezel action compare for you? Do you think either one would be better for actually diving if it came to that? Sorry for the 20 questions!
@@michaelglinessoundmixer8250 Id say the bezel and bracelet are fairly comparable to each other. Although there is probably a better chance of having a lined up bezel with Orient.
Prefer the first edition with the broad arrow hands, but nice one nonetheless. Many years ago, Orient actually had a submariner homage, though the quality was just basic.
Hey sean. Can you answer my question please. I really want this dive watch. I have a offer to trade in a watch towards getting this dive watch from orient. I have the orient star heritage white dial. Is this dive watch worth trading in my star dress watch?. I really like an adore my heritage. But at the same time i really want this flagship dive watch from orient. What are your thoughts?.
That's maybe a tricky decision. Short version though, if you adore your heritage, don't trade it in. Or at least I wouldn't. I'm still a few weeks out from a full review. I've worn it enough that I know what I'm going to say, but I have other videos I have to do first, like Lume-O-Ween. The 1964 is good, the black dial is extremely refelctive, but overall it's a good watch. Lume is good, the build is good, and the power reserve is very subtle so it has a very clean look. So it's good for someone who wants a dressy diver, something a bit retro. Or someone who may want a Submariner that isn't an homage. Where things get complicated is in terms of value. Typically with Orient and Orient Star, every watch I see punches way above its price. Where I feel like it could stand on its own against watches that cost 2x as much. This is the first time I've had one that I don't feel that way. Comparing it to my Seiko MMR (which has about the same MSRP), id say they are about the same in terms of value. Each has its own strengths and weaknesses, but value they are on par. So the 1964 is still an ok buy, but it's not what you typically expect from the brand. Or at least that's how I feel. Anyway... long story short it's good, but I wouldn't risk trading something you absolutely love for it. Hope that helps. Feel free to ask me any more questions.
@@RelativeTime You have answered my question. An my thoughts. I will not be trading in my heritage. Too be honest, i go an back an fourth on thinking if i really want this diver from orient. Before i thought i did. Now, i think i dont have to have it. I think the star diver pepsi bezel diver you have is just as good as this 2nd edition. Id love to have the all blue version. But they are getting scarce an alot pricier these days. After reading your comment i made my mind up. Also, i think the 1st edition is the much better watch out of the 2. But thats impossible to find. You still have a great watch. But ill be keeping my heritage.
@@RelativeTime Indeed, yes. I have three Orient/Orient Star watches, and i was really excited to get a look at the ‘64 V2, but it just didn’t seem to look as good in the flesh. I know it’s usually the other way around, but it just didn’t wind my main spring.
i dislike the approx. 2 year ago release of this newer orient diver (should be same as your video here that pepsi bezel one) since it has too many roundish design markers on BOTH the bezel and dial ; and at 43mm it is abit too LARGE to be a daily wear piece , of course for professional diver , larger at 42 to 45mm is nothing wrong functional wise . the newer editions with more regular rectangular markers looks much better , especially this smaller case width one discussed here.
Nice video, but I strongly disagree with you that the Orient Star is the best watch Orient ever made because the 300 meter Orient Saturation Diver watches far exceed the quality standards as it was in the 1960's. Please check it out for yourself and perhaps this could be new content for another video. Cheers.
Like all Orient Stars, prices on the grey market flucutate wildly, so you have to really shop and look. Although MSRP is 140,000 yen, about $951 USD right now. I'd have to go back and look, but I probably forgot to mention it in the video. It's an unboxing, so most of it is off the cuff and unplaned. At least compared to my reviews.
The original Triton? I think you can still find some, but they have been discontinued and replaced with the non power reserve version. Suposedly Orient wanted the power reserve to be a "Orient Star" exclusive feature. From what I remeber it was the older movement they used to use in most orient stars. The 40N5A. I think it's pretty simmilar, the major difference with the newer F6N47 is a longer power reserve. 40 hr vs. 50 hr.
A few people have. It's fairly polarizing. Some love it ( I do ), and some hate it. Although in this case, it's also Orient Star's "thing". At this point, it's their signature feature, as they have it in almost every Orient Star watch. That said, this is probably the most subtle implementation I've seen from Orient with it. You can see what I mean when you look at the older diver compared to the 1964.
@@RelativeTime Thanks for taking the time to reply, I'm just not a fan of power reserve complications on automatic watches. They make more sense to me on a manually wound watch along with a longer power reserve.
Prefer the look of the V1, the second version looks a little cheap and dated to my eyes. I am not sure why you'd take this over the 62mas options from Seiko though, unless you're a very devout Orient fan. All those polished surfaces on the side and will be a scratch magnet and not hidden like that caseback. It would be acceptable on a dress watch but this is going for a tool vibe?
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One quick comment. As I was editing this together I noticed that this black version is very reflective. So that's something I'll be looking at more when I get to the final review. Especially how it might compare to other glossy black watches.
I'm wearing my Mako 2 as I watch this and it is one I will never sell. It was the first diver I bought, I paid 115.00 USD on Amazon and I simply love it. I've wanted to buy a nicer bracelet but the stock one is super comfortable. I like Orients products.
Same story here, but a black Ray.👍🌲
maybe change the bucket on it...clink clink 😅
I have one too. Every time I wear it, it makes me question my more expensive watches...
My first auto diver was a Orient ray 2 Orange dial, still love it
@@AK-rq1cz same story here. Wear mine everyday. Incredible value for the money.
I have many Orient Star watches, and is so sad and anoying the pictures and videos cant make justice of the beauty and impressive finishing of all, I know people will say "thats too much for an Orient" but im sure this watch worth every dollar, the finishing looks superb, the lume should be as amazing as the first diver (one of the best in the market) and the green dial is just stunning. People you should begin to treat and value Orient Star as they deserve, around the same cstegory as Tissot, Hamilton, Longines, Laco... How many more times they have to prove they do amazing well done watches?
You instantly went up 100 notches in my book for the Glock cleaning pad or whatever that is. Love it! Awesome diver too, Orient is a great value brand that actually delivers and performs QC.
Glock and 1911.
'Murica.
Too bad its upside down haha
The new Orient Star diver is just beautiful! I own an Orient Star Sports Outdoor pvd w/ grey dial and it's a keeper... absolutely bulletproof! I'm very impressed with the brand and have wanted one of their dive watches.
However well executed, the 43mm size of the other OS diver has kept me from purchasing one. My Seiko Williard and Monster already fill the larger diver slots in my collection.
The LE version of the OS 1964 is nice but is too much like the Zodiac Super Sea Wolf 53 Skin that I already own.
I really love the classic monochrome look of this piece, it has a refined elegance to it. The finishing looks beautiful and the 41mm size is just about perfect. I've been eyeballing the black-dialed Longines Hydroconquest 41mm and this looks like a very attractive alternative.
I look forward to your full review, thanks!
Nice review, Shane. I am a big fan of Orient Star watches, especially, my Chesire. That teal version caught my eye immediately.
not an orient fan but you my friend have the sharpest orient on earth. congrats
Very nice watch. Still have and love my old Orient Mako XL, with the orange bezel, big and beautiful for my 8" wrist and though not İSO has accompanied me diving in the Mediterranean, the Aegean, Marmara and Black seas for many years. Anyway I have a lot of divers and this one Orient diver is definitely a favourite. Great intro Shane, look forward to the in depth review.
Don't know why but my Orient mako II is my go to watch always.
@@jjsifo1 Yes, they really make great watches. Of course mine has the old non handwinding shake to wake. Lol. Yours has the newer hacking and handwinding movement, I'm sure. But the old XL is very reliable. I got mine back around 2009 I think or maybe a bit later. Still 12 or 13 years with no problems. I even brought it for a service a few years ago and the watchmaker said, it didn't need one, but he changed the gaskets and re-lubricated it. Good for another 13 years. It might last longer than me!
I go to Japan often, Orient watches are very popular and are high quality. It's just a smaller less known brand that's why you don't see everyone talking about them. They have amazing craftsmanship and will last a lifetime expecialy the star series. This will be my next watch definitely a classic bond looking style.
I truly enjoy the passion and love you put into your videos and the way you present everything, great job, thank you.
The one with green dial is beautiful man! Black one is cool as well, but the green one is OMG! Thank you, great review!
It looks amazing in pictures... I was pretty tempted by it. But gut reaction was to go with the black dial.
Very nice. I do like the handset and bezel of the original limited release 1964, but as you said, good luck finding one.
Liked the casual nature of this video.
I think that's partly why I never paid much attention to it. I saw it on Orient Japans site, and saw a very limited release and figured I'd never find one. So wasn't much point looking into it more.
Been waiting for a proper review of this watch in English! Big fan of Orient but never owned an Orient star. I'd buy this if I had the funds
That looks a real nice watch. Look forward to the full review.
Great review Shane. The Teal for me! Never had an Orient for 1, never had a Power Reserve Indicator for 2, and I can go 40 mm to 50 mm on a 6 1/2” wrist. So, thanks. Everything else is TOO BIG…😭 (lol)
I liked that you mixed it up with an off the cuff review that was obviously you finding things out for the first time.
You seem very relaxed lately - if I may say so. And I really liked your "talking-while-unpacking-style". Cheers
The 1964 edition feels more grand yet Diver's 200M is still very good designed and more modern. I vote for the Diver's 200M, especially the black one.
Nice unboxing Shane, appreciated it. Also glad you got the black you were hoping for since you don't currently have a black diver but you know I thought the pictures at Tus of the teal version princess it to be the real deal and different than your new Seiko. Look forward to the full review.
I like it… Looking forward to the review as I’ve been looking for another Orient to add to the collection. Looking forward to the full review!
Tom at Tus Watches is a legend 🙌
Looks a nice watch. I particularly like the blue dial version. Can’t wait to see the full review
Just for the sake of not having so many watches after I sent out my collection a little bit I think this is going to be on one of my second back up my collection list
Because of this channel, I bought the Orient Star Diver in blue with the Pepsi bezel. It's a great dive watch to dive with! I'm not sure this new watch will be worth it. If anything, the new one looks more conventional.
I look forward to the full review. I already have the Orient Star Diver (plus a Ray II, Kamasu, two Triton/Neptunes and a Triton Lite). I like the slightly smaller size of this new OS, but it may be adding even more redundancy to my collection.
Looks good, Shane. But I couldn't see the power reserve hand,... Was it the lighting?
It's the lighting. It's a very thin silver hand, so it was just reflecting the darkroom back at the camera. In normal lighting conditions is easier to pick up. One interesting thing is that this is the first Orient Star I've seen where the power reserve wasn't recessed with a grooved texture. It's just printed directly on the glossy black mirror dial, making it much more subtle.
I noticed the power reserve hand. This may be a small detail but it’s such a strange choice (instead of one which matches the hands) that I’ve lost interest in this watch.
Nice vid, thanks for that Shane! I like it in black. Vintage but modern look, Orient did a great job! And the best: The ugly power reserve doesn't stand out that much 😀 Nice unboxing, go on 👍
Nice pickup Shane. No need to do a full comparison, but it would be interesting to see it alongside a 1st gen Triton. I think this could be the watch for people who miss the 1st gen and who feel the 2nd is too much of a downgrade. Looking forward to your thoughts.
Really pretty watch but the price might be a bit high. Citizen just released the titanium fujitsubo diver with very similar styling and specs and that costs around 700 dolars with the bracelet.
This watch sits right in the middle of the newly released citizen and the seiko 62mas reissue. I think that is a tough position to be in for a watch because you can pay a bit less and get the citizen or pay a bit more and get the 62 mas.
Damn that teal colour is so cool!
Looks like everything seemed right, especially on the dimensions and the dressier finishing. The only thing that is a little bit off (just my personal preference) would be the choice of hands set.
My first reaction was "meh", but even just a couple of minutes later I was already thinking "that's really nice!" And yeah, the teal looks good, but the black has a more subtle appeal.
Hello there! Nice first impressions.
I've purchased the first edition two months ago and I'm happy with it, but some things irritate me and I'm still not sure the price is justified. I can't wait to hear your thoughts about this 2nd edition.
Yes please. A comparison to the Seiko MMR.
Like the look of this Shane bit out of my bracket at the moment I just hope I can get it the the Uk without importing it due to the ridiculous fees we have to pay!
IMHO, the RE-AU0602E has the much better dial colour.
=quote=This green version is is a matte green dial with a matching matte green bezel surface. The green gradation on the dial is inspired by the Ryusendo Cave in Iwate Prefecture, Japan, thought by some to be the most beautiful and mysterious limestone cavern in the world. This model reflects the spirit of the divers who dive deep into the underground lakes to survey the cave and unlock its mysteries.=unquote=
The Teal looks amazing. In the long run I may regret going with black, but we will see.
Huh, I feel that could be a $400 Vostok if Vostok ever decided to make a $400 model. It's because of the bracelet style, and how it's so distinctly -roughly- contrastfully fitted,
the unconventional retro looking dial, where also everything is printed,
the simple, no nonsense knurling on the crown also,
the bezel insert also, it just being a bit understated.
And I'm not saying that to diss either of these brands. Vostok has its own charme and place in the watch world.
Big stubble looks good on you!
its nice.... the price way to much... u can get a great swiss watch for the price.... cheers
Shame Shane. I bought the Orient Star Diver on your recommendation and now you change your mind? How dare you lol. But seriously I love it and prefer the skeletonized hands over these Mercedes hands. And one thing you were not lying about was the lume. It's incredible. Does this new JDM version have that same great lume? Anyway I love my Star Diver!
Haven't quite changed my mind... still love the orignal diver. In fact my gut reaction is that I like it better then the 1964, but I'll give it time to see. So far lume seems to be good, but I don't think it will be as good as the original diver. The indices are really small, so not as much lume is applied.
Dude, watch where you’re waving that knife- you almost put out your eye! 😂
Yah 😂. I saw that footage while editing and had to stop for a second. I don't think it was that close when I filmed it but sure looked like it.
Nothing wrong with a quicky, review that is :)
Thank you. Good review.
It seems like you may have been given feedback about the pace of your videos. Your default pace and older videos are great.
No, no one has mentioned anything. With these sorts of impromptu videos I do tend to speak a bit faster. Just because I'm focusing on multiple things at once.
Although for my more recent reviews I'm not sure.
looks beautiful but at that price point you can get a Tudor or a Omega they have in their website at $2,000
Any one in paticular? I thought most Omega & Tudors started in the 3k range, but I haven't looked in quite a while.
It gives a lot of omega seamaster vibes with an oris aquis style case side view.
My deep saturation diver is amazing.
great content. really nice watch. stiff competition at the price range
I don't like this one as much as the other Orient Star diver you have, The other Orient Star that you have has unique indices and a unique style to it.
The uniqueness was what originally drew me to the other Orient Star. Where with this one I'm getting major retro subby vibes.
Liked the informal video!
Go Shane Go!
Question: Would a San Martin BB58 homage be tacky these days? I think it is a beautiful watch but I''m not sure if I'm ready to pull the trigger on it.... Looking for the green model.
That's a very classy looking diver, def. has a Seiko vibe to it. I'm not a fan of the power reserve though, seems to be a pretty common Orient Star feature?
At this point the power reserve is a "signature feature" for Orient Star. They seem to be commited to it, as it seperates them from most other watches in the same price range. Or at the very least it gives them something different from their Seiko cousins.
I prefer the muff diver tbh
Cool "hit-man" gloves, bro! 😂 Jk ❤ your channel, & LOVE Orient. Don't have an OS, and DON'T NEED ONE!!!!!! Someone help me! Help!! Don't let me buy an Orient Star!😂
Looks beautiful... But kinda expensive!
What bugs me is that even if its a reissue, they could gave went with applied markers, as those small dots on the dial look really weird. But it just might be me with my "applied markers only" rule
I love all Orients but would pay $30-$40 more if they would come with Sapphire Crystal.
Are Orient and Orient Star the same brand? Owned by Seiko??
Orient Star is the higher-up brand of Orient. Kind of like Grand Seiko is for Seiko, but not near the same quality level as that.
Technically they are separate companies. With Seiko Watches is owned by The Seiko Holdings Corporation, and Orient Is owned by The Seiko Epson Corporation. But they are connected overall by the larger Seiko Group. Honestly how it all works is a little confusing.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seiko_Group
@@RelativeTime thank you for answering that!!
Nice watch but damn can't they ditch the aluminum bezel insert?
Not a bad looking watch.
Excellent video
Thank you very much!
great watch
Wow, you really went to town with the editing here, great job! Unfortunately, the watch itself is not up to par with your work… Sandwiched between a Star Wars-like block of text and a power indicator whose black hand renders it completely useless, the three hands of this watch are so disproportionate they look flimsy. At least the other color variants make it more legible, but still a har pass from me.
i liked the triton the best! what a shame they discontinued it!
Sorry, I meant the Seiko MM200 for comparison. Similar price
14.4 thick. come on. I would understand if it was 300m. nice looking though.
The only problem here is, this watch should be a value proposition. It’s not. The Seiko watches you compared it to in the beginning are just nicer and better quality
100% agree. Now I haven't had it long, so I want to give it more time before I make final judgement. Yet whats usualy great about Orient is that they punch way above their weight in terms of value, and so far I'm not quite seeing that here.
Damn that is really nice
Love the Colt M1911 poster! If the 1911 were a watch, which one would it be?
For years I've thought of the Submariner as the 1911 of the watch world. It's an older iconic classic that multiple companies took inspiration from and have made their own versions of. To the point, you could almost say a Subby is a type of dive watch and not just a single watch.
Just like with the 1911. Colt is the one that created it, but these days most companies have their own versions of it. So if someone says they have a 1911, you know what kind it is, but you usually ask what brand.
@@RelativeTime a very good amalogy!
Looks like a 2017 omega seamaster 300 diver
I'm considering picking up this watch in turquoise (I think they call it "pond"). But also the Seiko Glacier MMR looks amazing too. Which do you think is a higher quality watch?
Eventually, I'll do a comparison video, but it will be a while out. That said... They are close, but I think the Seiko has a slight edge in terms of quality. Especially with the case and bracelet having Seiko's Diashield coating applied.
Personally, I like the MMR's case design better, as well as the handset. The Orient's are a tad flat. Plus you have 70hrs of power over 50.
Although there are some things the Orient does better. Better lume. More comfortable thanks to a smaller case. As well as the Power Reserve meter, which the Seiko doesn't have at all.
@@RelativeTime Interesting! How do the bracelet and the bezel action compare for you? Do you think either one would be better for actually diving if it came to that?
Sorry for the 20 questions!
@@michaelglinessoundmixer8250 Id say the bezel and bracelet are fairly comparable to each other. Although there is probably a better chance of having a lined up bezel with Orient.
@@RelativeTime Amazing. Great to know. Definitely looking forward to that comparison video!
Is that a Signum Full lume? Cant wait for you to do a lume test
It is... and it's good.
For that money, a certina DS 38 is better
I keep hearing how good they are. I'll try and get one early next year.
Why do they refuse to use ceramic bezels?
For these vintage or refresh watches it makes some sense. As it's sticking to it's inspiration. Yet even then I'd prefer ceramic.
@@RelativeTime agreed!
Interesting.
Prefer the first edition with the broad arrow hands, but nice one nonetheless. Many years ago, Orient actually had a submariner homage, though the quality was just basic.
I think that was the Orient Ray II. I haven't seen one in a while, but I think they still make them.
@@RelativeTime I think it's the ER00, way before the Rays 😁
Hey sean.
Can you answer my question please. I really want this dive watch. I have a offer to trade in a watch towards getting this dive watch from orient. I have the orient star heritage white dial. Is this dive watch worth trading in my star dress watch?. I really like an adore my heritage. But at the same time i really want this flagship dive watch from orient. What are your thoughts?.
That's maybe a tricky decision. Short version though, if you adore your heritage, don't trade it in. Or at least I wouldn't.
I'm still a few weeks out from a full review. I've worn it enough that I know what I'm going to say, but I have other videos I have to do first, like Lume-O-Ween.
The 1964 is good, the black dial is extremely refelctive, but overall it's a good watch. Lume is good, the build is good, and the power reserve is very subtle so it has a very clean look. So it's good for someone who wants a dressy diver, something a bit retro. Or someone who may want a Submariner that isn't an homage.
Where things get complicated is in terms of value. Typically with Orient and Orient Star, every watch I see punches way above its price. Where I feel like it could stand on its own against watches that cost 2x as much. This is the first time I've had one that I don't feel that way.
Comparing it to my Seiko MMR (which has about the same MSRP), id say they are about the same in terms of value. Each has its own strengths and weaknesses, but value they are on par. So the 1964 is still an ok buy, but it's not what you typically expect from the brand. Or at least that's how I feel.
Anyway... long story short it's good, but I wouldn't risk trading something you absolutely love for it.
Hope that helps. Feel free to ask me any more questions.
@@RelativeTime You have answered my question. An my thoughts. I will not be trading in my heritage. Too be honest, i go an back an fourth on thinking if i really want this diver from orient. Before i thought i did. Now, i think i dont have to have it. I think the star diver pepsi bezel diver you have is just as good as this 2nd edition. Id love to have the all blue version. But they are getting scarce an alot pricier these days. After reading your comment i made my mind up. Also, i think the 1st edition is the much better watch out of the 2. But thats impossible to find. You still have a great watch. But ill be keeping my heritage.
Hey! What is the watch in the bottom right at 5:32
I belive that's the Phoibos Aged Steel Proteus.
@@RelativeTime thank you!
I saw this watch when I was in Osaka. I wanted to love it, but it just didn't jive with me.
Did you happen to see the real version?
@@RelativeTime Indeed, yes. I have three Orient/Orient Star watches, and i was really excited to get a look at the ‘64 V2, but it just didn’t seem to look as good in the flesh. I know it’s usually the other way around, but it just didn’t wind my main spring.
i dislike the approx. 2 year ago release of this newer orient diver (should be same as your video here that pepsi bezel one) since it has too many roundish design markers on BOTH the bezel and dial ; and at 43mm it is abit too LARGE to be a daily wear piece , of course for professional diver , larger at 42 to 45mm is nothing wrong functional wise . the newer editions with more regular rectangular markers looks much better , especially this smaller case width one discussed here.
Nice video, but I strongly disagree with you that the Orient Star is the best watch Orient ever made because the 300 meter Orient Saturation Diver watches far exceed the quality standards as it was in the 1960's. Please check it out for yourself and perhaps this could be new content for another video. Cheers.
Did I say best ever? I think I was trying to say in current production. Although it would be intersting to see them bring it back
Looks like a tissot seastar
Did I miss the price of this watch?
Like all Orient Stars, prices on the grey market flucutate wildly, so you have to really shop and look. Although MSRP is 140,000 yen, about $951 USD right now.
I'd have to go back and look, but I probably forgot to mention it in the video. It's an unboxing, so most of it is off the cuff and unplaned. At least compared to my reviews.
Can you please compare it with the Trinton with power reserve.
The original Triton? I think you can still find some, but they have been discontinued and replaced with the non power reserve version. Suposedly Orient wanted the power reserve to be a "Orient Star" exclusive feature.
From what I remeber it was the older movement they used to use in most orient stars. The 40N5A. I think it's pretty simmilar, the major difference with the newer F6N47 is a longer power reserve. 40 hr vs. 50 hr.
No one seems to have mentioned it here, but for me the power reserve ruins the dial design, the original looks much nicer!
A few people have. It's fairly polarizing. Some love it ( I do ), and some hate it. Although in this case, it's also Orient Star's "thing". At this point, it's their signature feature, as they have it in almost every Orient Star watch.
That said, this is probably the most subtle implementation I've seen from Orient with it. You can see what I mean when you look at the older diver compared to the 1964.
@@RelativeTime Thanks for taking the time to reply, I'm just not a fan of power reserve complications on automatic watches. They make more sense to me on a manually wound watch along with a longer power reserve.
Anyone has found alternative bracelet for this model? Thank you 🙏🏼
So far haven't found one.
Minute trackers could be longer
Since Orient belongs to Seiko/Epson it makes sense…
Prefer the look of the V1, the second version looks a little cheap and dated to my eyes. I am not sure why you'd take this over the 62mas options from Seiko though, unless you're a very devout Orient fan. All those polished surfaces on the side and will be a scratch magnet and not hidden like that caseback. It would be acceptable on a dress watch but this is going for a tool vibe?
The actual review is 3:22 mins I guess videos nowadays have long intros =/
Well the title does say "unboxing"
Small hands
Just not that into it, the unnecessary part at the top is a deal breaker for me personally. All else seams nice.
lume~~~lume~~~~~😆😆😆
Still waiting for the review..
Yah, I had a few delays, including getting sick for most of November. But should be out next week.
in my opinion version 1 looks much better.
Version 1 of the 1964? Or the original larger diver?
"blue diver syndrome" lol
Arnie?!
Get to da Choppa! 🚁
175g? 49mm lug2lug ? ouch...and 14mm height...
14.5mm. It does have a very nice double domed sapphire crystal... but still.
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