Abby Zwerner's attorney gives first remarks since shooting by Richneck Elementary student
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- Опубликовано: 24 янв 2023
- Attorney Diane Toscano, who is representing Abby Zwerner, the Newport News teacher who was shot by a 6-year-old student at Richnick Elementary, makes her first public remarks on behalf of the Zwerner family since the incident on January 6.
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I retired 2015 after 43 years as a high school teacher all over the US. Two students came into my classroom, thinking I was alone. They screamed at me because I had separated them and given them new seats due to their chronic jabbering. They refused to leave. Body postures frightening. A student who witnessed said, "They came at Ms.A in a bad way." I wrote them up as a two day suspension, but administration sent them back twice and failed to hold them accountable. I walked out and straight to my cardiologist who wrote me out for the remainder of the year. I have had heart surgery but still experiencing problems. In my career I've had lovely young people to work with, but I've also been threatened and assaulted. The year before I had been slapped across the arm by a student who came in with huge bruises on her arm because she had stepped in between her father and his husband in domestic combat. I am mandated by law to report to CPS. The girl didn't like this, so she hit me. The administrator came in and said, "I know she hit you, but how hard." Parents, get rid of these blood sucking, money wasting people called administrators.
These acts of violence, don't start instantaneous, they are behavior problems that start much earlier.
Why aren't the counselors administrators looking into these situations before, it becomes deadly.
Many teachers face all types of personalities disorders and are trained, to recognize, potential behavior that may cause horrorific situations.
Mental illness, doesn't just begin at a specific age.
Apparently this child had problems that started long before he entered the teacher's class.
I don't know what happened, but I wonder what had been going on in this classroom prior to the shooting.
I was a public school educator for over 50 years and taught from pre- school to college students.
I can write a book on how teachers get attacked verbally by students,as well as their parents.
Also, I know there are teachers, administrators, who are bias,prejudice and partial to certain ethnic groups.
So there needs to be Investigation into. how this teacher and others treated certain students.
I am sure the students have been traumatized, but they needed to have counseling, as well as talking to them and their parents, because 6 year old child, talk.
They may not open up immediately , but they will say something, or a lot, if they trust the older person.
I wonder, why this particular child's behavior or suspicious behavior wasn't addressed.
I do wonder, were the parents or other relatives, ever informed of the child's prior behavior?
That school seems, to be one of mostly Hispanics, so have there been other situations when students ,may have been emotionally disturbed.
Are these students, with learning disabilities,home problems, or they from families that have behavior problems.
This should be investigated from every side.
I am so sad this teacher was shot and grateful she is improving.
Where is the 6 year old,who, I assume is also being represented, by a counselor, and reputable attorney.
No one cares stop programming kids, the Torah causes psychosis, govt just makes submissive cashier's through amnesia hypnosis and submission all through timed synaptics and seclusion effects no real world application, you're invalid.
I am a retired teacher too (elementary school). You know WHY those kids weren't suspended? In our school district there were too many kids of color being suspended, so we were told that ANY suspension had to be approved by the principal. But the suspension counts were being monitored and the principals didn't want to look "bad" so they stopped them. Usually a teacher would suspend a student bc of violence or some other REAL reason. These kids needed emotional help but the schools (and the parents) don't have money for that. So the lesson the kids take away is that you can do what you want and the consequences are few & far between. Make sense?? Sound good??
Admin is afraid of being accused of racist intentions, so they do not discipline. I saw it time and time again in the district I worked for.
The parants are usually part of the problem.
Not a single parent should allow their child to attend that school again unless every administration member is fired.
So far, no one dare to point out the implication of this 6 years old having the effective cunning of hiding his gun, and the aggression of coercing another child with deadly threat. I really don't see a child in this incident. I see a criminal mind occupying the body of a six years old.
The manipulation is absolutely possible and in less dangerous situations, is very typical. My five year old found a way to scale the outside of the fridge to get at the cookies I hid from him. Kids are smart. HOWEVER, this level of interest in hurting others is a sign of much more than a typically Special Needs child. All children deserve a free and appropriate education, that second word is important. For this child, an appropriate education is clearly in a self-contained classroom while his violent tendencies are assessed.
He is a serious danger to society and should never ever ever have been mainstreamed into a classroom with normal children. He strangled his kindergarten teacher only one year before. Scary.
@@NoliMeTangere1163 nicely said!
@@NoliMeTangere1163 The other children deserved an appropriate education too...far away from this dangerous kid. Looks like nobody cared about their or the teacher's rights. Only this child's rights mattered.
He probably saw his parents acting like fhis
The store I work at has whole family’s coming in a mom and the kids to distract while they get merchandise and run out the store together I’m talkings 6 year olds they are teaching kids it’s okay to act like this it’s horrible
It is my sincere hope that the teacher wins a lawsuit that will make it possible for her to never return to being a teacher.
Agreed. Black anger is starting to harm asian adn white people. ENough already
It's sad because from what I've read about her, teaching is truly her life's passion 😢 But this incident will likely permanently impact her feelings towards it...
Adults who leave weapons available to children should be held accountable
When I was six, I was more interested in Barbie dolls and cartoons. I don’t think this six year old can be rehabilitated. He is very cold and calculating
I agree, when I was a kids, barbies and cartoons where my thing. What has happened to our world, it's so sad. If we went back to those days, we'd safer in some way than we are now.
Well if you think he should be locked up, you're a horrible person. He needs intervention, not to be locked up. Just give it a chance! He needs a chance.
The administrators that knew and all who were told needs to be fired and charged! So should the parents.
Absolutely correct.
A firearm is not "safely secured" if a 6 year old can access it. So either the kid got it by themself, or someone gave it to them intentionally...
Makes you wonder. Why were the parents not there that particular day? Are there other children in their home? Was the boy on some sort of medication? I think when the parental side is reported, it may be even more failure to prevent the tragedy.
@@kristenmarie9248 That is a really great point, it would definitely be worth looking into who usually drops the kid off, do they usually obey the rules assigned to them, if they had a good reason for not following the rules that day. The cops need to do a deep dive into that home anyway.
I lived in that area and had major problems with the school districts there. My son was constantly attacked and the way they handled it was absolutely pathetic. Really makes me wish I would’ve gotten an attorney too. Shame on the mother for not properly locking her gun. I hope charges are brought against her.
When my daughter and 3 kids moved to live near me, I wouldn’t allow her to look outside of York County for just that reason.
Why, but anyway ...NOTHING is going to be done to her. 👻👹👻👹
@@fiyahriddims criminality negligent and lower burden of proof for a civil case.
@@fiyahriddims oh look shes been prosecuted. Ha!
Also, kid was supposed to have a parent with him due to previous behavior issues yet he was allowed into school without one.
I don't believe that one bit. This makes no sense so obviously someone is lying.
@@JC02official Other news accounts have said the boy has a violent history and the parents agreed to be with him in the classroom. They were not that day. It's unusual, but rather than have a special ed para who won't likely be assigned to just one student, (and maybe afraid to take the job), the parents may have agreed to the arrangement in order to give him an education.
I used to be a teaching assistant and I have NEVER hears of a student with an IEP like that. I don't believe it.
@@holbrooke7 It's also a 1st to hear about an administration refusing 3 requests to get rid of a gun in a 1st grade class!!
@Merri M Somehow THAT doesn't surprise me, though.
I work in a violent school setting, and I wonder every day if the actual school administrators can be reported to CPS for exposing the rest of the classroom children to violence every day. Im talking throwing chairs, verbal bullying, threats to adults and children in the classroom. We already have staff on modified work for getting assaulted in the classroom.
you definitely couldn't pay me enough to do your job! football and basketball players make multi millions... yet the hardest job there is severely underpaid. there are many of us who truly admire and appreciate you though.
As a former teacher with experience in multiple districts and states, I can tell you now: this kid was on an IEP or 504 and Administration at schools nationwide REFUSE to take these situations seriously if a child is being given services or accommodations. This is because removing their instructional time, or giving them any consequence can involve a more complicated process. Because of this extra layer of effort, Administration often refuse to act when the perpetrator is a Special Needs child, often downplaying concerns from teachers. Everything that happened here, could have happened in any school I taught at. I only pray that this is the wake-up call that we need, to rethink how we interpret IDEA in School Districts and start removing violent children from the general classroom. The General Classroom is NOT the default LRE and Administrations MUST stop acting as if SpEd students cannot be dangerous.
LRE means "Least Restrictive Environment" for students who as special needs students have IEPs or 504s.
You hit the nail on the head… today a student having an iep( special Ed) means they are above the law. This needs to be changed!
EXACTLY.
@@susanprice7202 I'm very aware, but thank you for clarifying in case anyone else was not.
Agree 100%! This boy wasn’t supposed to be in school without a parent and the mother neglected to come for a full week because she was tired. She needs to be in prison and the boy in juvenile til 18 and then prison.
The more details that come out about this event, the more shocking it becomes. Clearly the school dropped the ball, big time. And the parents. There is no way the parents had the gun "secured" or a young child could not have gained access to it. I am glad Abby got an attorney.
Also, could it be very possible this 6 year old is brain damaged from his mother doing hard illicit drugs and alcohol during her pregnancy? Add in mirroring his environment at home and this is what makes a 6 year old violent enough to shoot his teacher with a gun. Sue his parents too.
And the teachers who after reporting to admin and no action taken, did not notify police to respond and search bag.
Happens all day at a lot of schools, you wouldn’t believe the amount of elementary school children that bring guns to school. The kids are running the schools, it’s not all admins fault either, their hands are tied and mostly by people that never step in classrooms.
@@hopeanderson6839 Citation needed.
The lawyer is like a mom cat protecting her kittens.
Are there going to be charges against the parents for not properly securing the firearm? The school is culpable as well. Inexcusable
who are the parents? have they been named?
@@deborah3912 They've made a statement but their names have not been released.
Nothing will happen to the parents beyond probation. Parents are no longer responsible for their own children in this country. However, several school employees will have their careers and livelihoods destroyed over this.
@@phillbr51 Bleak...
@@graceghazaii4434 You sure the perp is black? I think if the perp was black, the media would've shown pics of the parents right away. I haven't seen ANYTHING about what they look like yet.
The parents should also be sued by the victim.
Makes you wonder what his parents are like??
Omg. They FAILED EVERYTHING, AND EVERYONE.
Wanna bet the parents had previously threatened to sue over how their "special" child was handled.
Every traumatized 6-year-old child in that gun shooting, blood-splattering class deserves compensation as well.
She should also sue the parents.
Good luck finding the daddy
The mother probably doesn’t have enough money to be worth the trouble. She should be charged, though.
The school board has money.
who are the parents? have they named a name?
@Deborah The media knows who the parents are and that the child is black but they are too afraid to say anything.
The way they handled the situation was outrageous. Those idiot parents and school administrators did nothing to prevent the shooting. I also feel like any of them are lying. How ridiculous handling a life and death scenario.
I'm a retired teacher who taught 32 years. I had a first-grade student who brought a razor blade to school to use as a weapon. He DID USE it as a weapon. I went to the principal. who did nothing and said the kid was from the streets just like the principal had been a street kid living on the streets when he was a child. I found out later that the student's mother was in jail for physically assaulting his kindergarten teacher and the father who was a known drug dealer. BTW, two weeks later the student's father was killed in a drug deal gone bad. People wonder why there is an epidemic of gun violence all over this country. It is because our society is NOT teaching children, parents, and the community that there are better ways to resolve problems than with over-the-top violence with guns and other dangerous weapons, I loved teaching and miss it still, but I am also so thankful that I survived to retire.
LBJ ..Lyndon Baines a Johnson...was a school teacher ..1965 full blast welfare..
Start charging the parents. School shootings will stop overnight.
Exactly. 💯
Let’s see how long our country will take before they realize that our WHOLE education system needs a serious overhaul. This kid was having serious problems before this happened, yet he was not in a class with the proper help and setting . Why? Because they want to mainstream these kids without any aides to help the child or support the teacher. Instead they increase class sizes and they got rid of aides. All politicians, districts and administrators do is slap a bandaid on the problems and give teachers the responsibility to fix it. I’m planning to retire early because they work us to the bone, don’t respect us as educators, expect us to work for free and continually pile on more work. Many parents have no idea how to discipline and hold their children accountable. I teach 1st grade and this hit home. I work at a middle class school and parents can’t volunteer the way they use to because the needs of society have changed. But is the school system changing with it…. NO! I can’t tell you how many kids i have had in my class that have made a WHOLE entire year miserable for the other students in class and made it almost impossible for me to teach. We send them out and then there’s more work expected from teachers to now help this child learn appropriate behavior. Then we have to document,document ,
document and attend meetings to see what else we can do. So now the work doubles and the child is still in class reeking havoc. Teachers have zero say or power. This is abuse and our country will suffer due to the apathy of politicians and parents. Parents need to get involved and demand things to change from those in charge… not blame the teachers. Our teacher shortage is only going to get worse. For those who say… “but you get all this time off”.. try being with 25-30 kids that you can’t give real consequences to for 7 hours a day 5 days a week and teach them all they need to know to move forward in life for 180 days. Lots of sent can’t even be bothered to help their OWN kids for an hour of homework. This doesn’t include the other pressures. And work put on us. We need mental breaks to recharge for the next batch. I love teaching and it has been my passion for over 25 years, but this system is crumbling on top of our (teachers) heads and it’s snuffing out teachers one by one.
when parents have kids for the welfare dollar so they can sit and watch tv and not have to work (sorry to say that it's usually women/moms that do this), then you end up with a kid without love, respect, or compassion. mom ends up needing to bribe the kid and the whole scenario is just ugliness. shooting the teacher at 6 years old is just the beginning of a life of hatred and bullying.
We need school vouchers
Don't worry. It won't be long until we just stop sending kids to school period. With A.I. people will eventually say what is the point of educating humans. It will be viewed as a waste of time and resources.
@@BeachBumZero don’t hold your breath
It’s alarming now common these issues and what you are saying is rapidly happening and no one cares. Not enough to do what needs to happen and what would make sense to have happen. It’s alarming the lack of common sense and perspective needed to make a change. I work with many children in a variety of different grade levels and the most common topic I get brought to me is “no one cares about what we need to feel safe, no one cares about what makes sense to us, and no one ever asks what we need? They just make choices for us and don’t listen to what would work for us and we see that in out teachers and no one listens to them either”
This is a slam dunk lawsuit. School board will likely settle for MILLIONS.
WHAT is his disability? Has he been assessed by a licensed psychologist or psychiatrist, and under the care of said psychologist or psychiatrist? Is he on medication and, if so, was he taking it? If he is so violent / dangerous, why was he allowed to attend school? Why not private tutoring in a secure facility? And how was that gun 'secured'? How did he 'unsecure' it & take it to school without his mother realizing it? We are not getting answers.
She deserves every penny she gets. The administration needs to be fired…no severance.
Several teachers came forward to say they were punished if they reported kids for discipline problems. The school district has made a big deal out of reducing disciplinary reports by 40% over the last several years. And the way they did it was by punishing teachers for reporting issues. This is the bright idea of the most recent superintendent of schools, whose salary was just under a quarter million $ a year.
And is getting a $500,000 golden parachute.
Every single parent who had a child in that class and particularly the boy who was shown the gun and threatened needs to contact this attorney and file a class action lawsuit against Newport News schools the superintendent and the administration
When I was 6 yrs old .... If I brought a gun into school, my dad would have fixed me up .... & I KNEW IT !!! ..... Dad didn't play games !!! ....Therefore, i didn't have problems, & didn't get into serious trouble .... I knew there would be penalties for my actions .... 70 yrs old now, ....With NO Criminal record !!!! .... THANK YOU DAD !!!
Amen to that!
Kids knew how to respect everyone around them and their peers back then, now kids are greedy, violent and down right mean. Kids now get what ever they want, they know no bounds.
It's so hard to comprehend when you take into account that these are SIX YEAR OLDS she's talking about! Unbelievable!
Wishing Abby a speedy recovery! 🙏
It’s really not. This has been happening for YEARS
@@TokeTheHooper Perhaps school shootings have been happening, but definitely not being perpetrated by six year olds.
Looking forward to Abby's speedy recovery and her 10 million dollar lawsuit settlement award 💰
You do realize the taxpayers of the community will have to pay for that it comes out their pocket and it will mean less money for the children everyone loses here this is truly sad
@@jerrywilliams9208
you do realize that this young lady was shot twice by a friggen 6 year old?!? the money this country sends to other countries is also our tax money. please stop the ignorance!! I guarantee if you were in her shoes... you'd want more. I hope she gets more! maybe Ukraine could spare some of the more than 100 billion they've received?
Every teacher who doesn’t get support from a violent student should journal details of who you talk to, and when and what they said, and go contact the police/district attorney, demanding an order of protection.
If refused go to your union or hire a lawyer.
By the way, the same strategy should be used if a parent can’t get the school district to address bullying of their child.
Those parents should be held accountable as well as the school, I think there should be serious consequences for failing to secure their firearm, neglectful parenting, and where in the world did the child learn this behaviour??? Obviously his parents, the school should 100% be held accountable for the childs actions in their care, and people should definitely lose their jobs and be sued, that district needs a complete overhaul from the sounds of it! Sending prayers and healing thoughts to Abby
While there is some fault on the school, the vast majority of blame belongs to the parents. How do you let a 6 year old get your gun???? (Bad parenting). The kids IEP stated that a parent was supposed to be at school with him each day. But they were not there they day this happened. If the IEP states the parent is supposed to be on site and the parent cannot make it that day, then the kid should not attend that day either. (Bad parenting).
Everyone above the school principals to include the superintendent and school board should be removed and replaced. This incident was totally preventable and should not have happened.
Anyone, principals, office staff, counselors, anyone who was informed by the teachers is out of a job. just saying...
@@kathleenardrey5094 as they should.
Hopefully there will be an outpouring across the world. This child knew exactly what he was doing and what can you do to a six year old? The school was negligent and should have located the weapon. The parents should be charged. This child knew what he was doing all to well. Prayers for healing. This must set a precedent.
Severence package! WTH!??? He deserves NOTHING!! 😡
Wow! if all true that is outrageous! not completely shocking, I quit teaching 3 yrs ago because it's a mess. However no school I have worked in would be that lazy to not deal with a situation such as this one! The parent and admin should be held accountable.
as a middle school student who goes to school everyday, I cannot tell you how terrifying it is to hear about school shootings. you think, "what if im next?" or "is this the last time I'll ever see my parents?" when you leave home for school everyday. when you go into lockdowns you text your parents goodbye and try to cry silently (this is from experience). how many lives do we have to lose until America does something about this? how many lives? what if im next? if a six year old can learn to use a gun, a 13 year old definitely can.
perfectly said! I couldn't imagine being in school now. it's sad that you as a middle school child, has to have these feelings daily. I'm so sorry!
Schools need to go online. It's just that simple. I substitute teach at an online public school, and it's wonderful. There are no behavior issues because the teacher just mutes students if there are. But I am so sorry to hear this. Just know that a non gang related shooting is exceptionally rare. You have a far greater chance of being in a car accident on your way to school. God bless you!
@@lol-ky7fo thank you so much for your support!
@@JesusChrist-Gives-Eternal-Life thank you so much!! I really appreciate your kind words!
If you have a 6 year old that is violent enough that a parent is supposed to sit in class with them every day then why not homeschool that kid so others are safe? If the child is that violent then why did the parents not go that week? Clearly he was an unruly child. My biggest concern though is if you have a child with this type of disability then why would you have a gun anywhere in the house? Even secured? I have so many questions.
I paid attention today to what my 6 and 7 years student chatted about in my class today, I am a teacher in Finland, and the conversations are nothing related to the conversation that 6 years old boy had that day, what kind of child he is? in which environment he is in?, wow. what kind of gun he got, where it was hidden, no one normally will think to check the lunch box of a so young student., what is going on in American schools.
Anyone who finds themselves in this situation, after alerting the administration, should call the police and the news media to report a student with a gun. You don't have to mention the age or race.
Someone is getting slammed with a hefty lawsuit
Why didnt they prosecute the parents?
if the school had all these warnings and did nothing that is criminal. sickening... the parents will probably serve jail time too.
Thank God she is alive
Sue the pants off the parents and the school’s principal.
If that’s not child endangerment I don’t know what is!…
The entire administration staff should have been fired in addition to the superintendent. Also revoke them from ever being employed by any school system.
The police should have been called immediately!!! Why keep asking, just call 911 it's a gun!!
I cannot believe that the assistant principal was allowed to resign! She should have been fired on the spot!
Still hiding the parents? Gee I wonder why
I am going to ask the obvious. This child had an individual education plan which required a parent be with this child when he was at school. Neither parent was present that day. What school requires a parent come to school with their student. Is this a proper placement of this student? And, where was the parent who was required to be there? Finally, what was it about this particular student that he was given an individual education plan like this? The administration in this school, and at the district level, have failed miserably and need to resign en masse. Failing that, they all need to be fired.
the kid needs to be removed from the parents too.
When teaching animals you need to understand you will get bitten.
I remember when I was in 3rd grade. My class was walking in the hallway and I remember looking in a classroom to see a 2nd grade teacher got punched in a face by his student. Then the student tossed across their chair across the room. It is something I won't forget. I always thought it is the parents that should teach their kid.
the sad thing is, that's probably what most see at home.
Was there a racial element to the shooting and the administrators incompetence? Why aren't the parents being sued/ prosecuted as well?!
I guarantee there absolutely was some racial element, but that won't be discussed in the media. I guarantee the school administrators were not white.
looks likely the asst principal Dr. EBONY Parker, was trying to cover for the boy
@@joeykrenik3259 so it looks like I was correct about the adminstration
Weird that race is something you’re focusing on right now when a teacher has been shot by a child. Try re-writing your comment and just keep your second sentence weirdo
it's amazing out of all the comments, yours was the first to mention race. they won't even tell what color the kid or the mother is. why can't they just tell us the truth. if the mother is racist against whites, the kid is behaving like an attack dog. kids learn early on that they will not be punished for anything. this is rewarding bad behavior. leave it to the united states govt to always get it wrong.
SOUNDS LIKE WE NEED SOME NEW ADMINISTRATORS!
They 100% knew and knew the week prior after the child threatened to bring the gun to school and shoot his teacher! The superintendent knew which is why the first thing he did was COA in the press conference by stating “who would’ve thought a six-year-old…“ Well, he should’ve thought of it because he knew the week before and no one ever reported this to the police!!!
I hope this teacher is healing well, receiving therapy for PTSD, and wins her lawsuit. That is outrageous that the administration knew about the gun on campus and did nothing. The student should have been searched, the campus locked down, and the police called when the FIRST report was made to the administrator. Prayers for this teacher to heal, and for the students who witnessed the shooting to also heal.
This is why I gave up my dream to be a teacher. I graduated last year and I’m happy to be out. Throughout my school experience I had to sit through two lock outs because there was a man. The same man within a span of two weeks. Outside with a gun. We also had a lock in because a student was threatening a teacher with a knife. Personally me and my friends all went through severe bullying our entire school experience and never. Did anyone do anything for any of us. One of my friends was sexually harassed by two boys in our grade Junior year. We had two staff members who witnessed it. It was on camera. But all the boys got was two weeks of in school suspension. If I ever have children I hope public school gets safer and better at making sure people feel comfortable and secure. If not I don’t think my children will ever experience going to a public school like I did and good riddance for that. I’m so happy my two brothers only have a few years left. But I’m pushing my mom and ex-step mother to pull them out and home school them. This is a scary world we live in today.
This needs a full investigation into what that child is experiencing at home or elsewhere to make this acceptable. If you can't hold a 6 year old accountable, you certainly can hold the adults involved responsible.
This is negligence in part of the administration . Definitely 💯 preventable .
Heads up, teachers should leave if their warnings about safety are ignored. I left several schools because teacher and student safety was not a priority. Get rid of for profit and non-profit charter schools. Educating children is not the goal of charter schools, making money is the only goal of charter schools.
It is very fortunate that Abbey survived. May she recover fully from her injuries.
We still believe children are children. It is obviously not the case any more. We always say that things are more difficult for kids "now," but yet we still treat them like kids were "before". Plenty of young children commit heinous crimes. There needs to be penalities for this exact situation. Someone needs to get on changing the laws as we can see how frequent these "children" are committing more serious crimes. Someone who has the guts to fight for it
Cheryl, You are correct saying children are not what they used to be. I work with k-2 students. They are growing up watching violent videos on the dark web, playing games with their parents, shooting, killing -- though they have no idea real people don't get up after being killed or shot. Some parents are morons, let's face it. We're trying to educate kids who have parents who probably can't read at more than a 3rd grade level. They have no concept of what it means to parent.
Kids are the same as they always have been, they just have easier access to do horrible things, and they have less and less supervision and guidance and being raised properly. But their brains are still mush and they don't comprehend things on an adult level and we shouldn't forget that. This changing the rules of children is exactly what the pedophiles are hoping for. Once you say a six year is capable of making the informed decision to kill, as an adult would, someone is waiting to argue (and perhaps successfully) that the same six year is capable of consenting to sex. Lets not open that door.
It’s due to unfettered access to the internet at younger and younger ages. I fear for the future when these kids are adults having consumed horrible content their entire lives
@@merrim7765 bless you for being a teacher. I sorry for your frustration
perfectly said, kids are way more violent, and not innocents anymore, some are but in this day in age, I can never look at them the same way. We need to make the harsh conditions for them, they can't get the excuses when being charged of light just because of the age difference.
The mother is the one who should get punished.
Yes, it was her gun. Despite her claims, clearly it was not secured.
NOT JUST HER THE ADMINISTRATOR SHOULD AS WELL
now she has it better than she ever did. everything paid for by the taxpayer.
Y’all parents are cracking me up!! Y’all are really clueless on what goes on in schools! Please, get involved in your children’s education, spend some time at the schools, ASK your children EVERYDAY what happened in the classroom today and believe what they say. When they tell you little 5 year old Johnny threw a chair at little Becky, believe it!!! No one becomes a teacher to abuse your children or put your children in danger. What disciplinary actions Elementary teachers and administrators can implement are limited. Plus, every disciplinary action is a strike against that particular schools and you also have to remember if that child has a bip things have to be handled more cautiously. Until parents start demanding that things change and they start getting involved it’s only going to continue to get worse. All these comments are finger pointing, yet no one is pointing the finger at a the child 🤷♀️, this child also strangled his kindergarten teacher the year before, but again wasn’t held responsible because he was young. Why wasn’t everyone concern then? Where were all these parents demanding classroom safety? Firing administrators, or even superintendents isn’t going to change the rules, the processes of discipline, or make things better.
I burned out as a SPED teacher a decade ago because it got worse every year & it didn't matter which district or which state. Students not being held accountable for their disrespectful, disruptive, & violent behaviors began in at least the mid 1980's. Bad behavior spreads like a contagious virus. A student may have a mental health issue, but when other students see there are no consequences for bad behavior, then they act out too. School staff members aren't allowed to talk about it due to privacy laws. Speaking about it could mean being fired and being sued by parents. Administrators have their hand tied by laws that keep students in school. They remain in the classroom and don't get the skilled care they need because the monetary cost is too much for school districts. This problem is nationwide. That's why administrators don't discipline and disruptive and dangerous students just go back to class. The whole system needs an overhaul.
Absolutely! Last year when the boy strangled his kindergarten teacher he should have been removed from school permanently. Why do we allow children to break the law?? Even if admin would have found the gun, what would have happened???- I think it’s ninety day’s suspension, so he would have been back before the year was over terrorizing and breaking laws before his first grade school year was up. I wish this was an issue isolated issue but it’s NOT! You’re right it’s happening everyday at almost every school everywhere and it’s not being reported!! Idk what needs to be done before all these “shocked” parents who just can’t believe little Jimmy shot his teacher realize their kids are sitting in rooms being abused by little Jimmys everywhere everyday!!
@hope anderson Thumbs up to what you are saying doesn't seem right. I agree, but it's not a happy thumbs up. Parents must start demanding a healthy learning environment in schools. Hey everyone, demand respect for people who are providing an education to this nation's youth. Supporting educators doesn't mean just a holiday gift card. It comes down to what we are allowing to happen way before a gun might show up in a metal detector. Last year, in many districts across the country, people left teaching because they burned out. The social illness of not allowing teachers to do common sense discipline was spreading way before the Covid pandemic. People who care need to see what's been going on for a long time. The system needs to change. Teachers should be able to teach with safety and without disruption to the learning environment.
We all want to know, what provoked a 6year old to shoot his teacher.
Why didn't anyone look into this child's behavior, prior to the shooting.
Also,what is happening, to the child now?
Doesn't matter what "provoked" this demon child to shoot his teacher with a gun. Nothing justifies this sociopath kid. This kid needs to be institutionalized to get round the clock help and monitoring.
Let's just hope this child is only one of a kind and this six-years-old-murdering-his-teacher-with-a-gun thing is a very isolated incident. But given how prevalence children gun violence these days (just look it up, infants fired shots with murdering intend.) there will be many more. I know. I just know.
@VL Retired teacher here: If I had a dollar for every time a Special Snowflake said they will do whatever they want, plus the
name-calling and yelling they do, I could have retired sooner! Not funny; these Snowflakes and their parents are capable of
ruining a wonderful lesson for the rest of the children. And, boy, the counselors, principals, and Special Ed staff will climb all over a classroom teacher if she dares complain.
@@SilverSilence002 Career teacher (retired now). This is not one-of-a-kind: I can recall in a building of 300-310 elementary
students there would be 5-6 first-graders terrorizing the day- plus the Sp. Ed kids being dropped in and out of the room with their aides. All of the wonderful children cowered at some of the behaviors, and I was sickened at the lack of justice for all
the great children out there.
He simply seems to be naturally inclined towards violence. He tried strangling his kindergarten teacher just a year before.
I want to understand the rules first. In a school, is the administrator the only one who can call the police? Can any teacher or student call the police if they don’t feel safe? Can my kid demand the school to call parents if they don’t feel safe? I know the administration failed their part, but why everyone stopped at administrator? Is it because it’s a kid not an adult?
He better lose his job, with zero severance pay!!!!!!
6 year old to teacher: Ms whatever, that boy showed me a gun and told me he will kill me if I told. Come on honey, he can't have a gun, he has small pockets.
Teacher to administrator: Ma'am there seems to be a six year old student showing a weapon to other students. Administrator: Don't be silly a six year old can't even hold a weapon.
Teacher to another administrator: I have been informed by several students that a six year old has a gun with him; I would like to have persmission to search him. Administrator: No you cannot touch that child it would violate his rights. Teacher: But when he is in school he has rights, but if he has a weapon, he would rescind any rights to search, I do need to search the child. Aministrator: Please go back to your class and don't do anything that will besmirch our school reputation.
Child shoots teacher - Administrator, I am going to resign as soon as possible, I am getting out of Doge.
Of course searching children violates their Constitutional rights, however, if several reports that a child has a weapon, the first thing to do, is to have the child brought to a room. Call the parent to inform them they are going to search the child. If parent cannot be found, there should be two or three adults videotaping the search while speaking to the child what they are doing. Personally, I do not see anything wrong with that, yet what this school adminstrators did was not only shameful but probably criminal. Moreover, calling the police to help them search the child is counterproductive and would only serve to escalate the situation. If a weapon is found, of course, call the cops.
maybe the parent was pushing for a lawsuit hoping the kid would be searched.
Due to very POOR administrative duties of protocol I wouldn't be surprised if every faculty member walked out. Teachers are under paid with no defensive training. Let THAT sink in.
You are responsible for your children up until the age of 18. This child's parents did not secure the gun. If they did,this woman would not have been shot. And other kids told teachers who told Administration that the boy had a gun but nobody did a thing. The Parents and Administration who did nothing should be charged.
What did the teacher say to the CHILD for the CHILD to bring a gun to school 🏫
Prayers that she makes a full recovery 🙏🏽
Please I have a violent pre k student who also spits. He hits other children yet admin won’t do anything so my other 10 ese students have to suffer ridiculous
I know this question may sound racist, but is your violent student a person of color? Because the school admins never want to discipline those students because it looks "rayciss"
funny
@@edwardjames6070 Funny? Is this your pre-K son? Only the parent of a child like this thinks his actions are funny. Please do not create any children.
Teachers NEED protection!
We need policies which support us and staff which are there to protect us. We do not need to be armed.
@@NoliMeTangere1163 nah, we need school vouchers
@kmusic870 Absolutely! My mention of protection wasn't about weapons. I'm talking about hard and solid consequences and no nonsense policies to cite disruptive students. Teachers can't teach, and the students who really want to learn are being hindered. Ed Code needs to change. The climate at school sites is very concerning.
Sounds like that school administrator should be doing something else.
Why are the parents being protected?
My question here is, is this asked for all school shooters? No one prosecutes parents for the shooting of their child weirdo. But definitely should be investigated
I'm guessing there may be racial and/or gender reasons.
Who knows? This is a crime. Race, gender, religion, et cetera does not matter. Parents being protected? WHY
@@kathleenardrey5094 the kid should be taken away from the parent(s)
They're probably black and no one wants to deal with a bunch of marauding animals in Hampton Roads.
Is the lawsuit going to target the Principal, and not just the Superintendent? Wouldn't it be the Principal's duty to call for protection and notify the parents? Where were the parents that day?
So, I just have to say something, and im sure most of you will get mad for me saying this, but, im gonna say it anyway, so, her attorney said that another teacher went into the classroom and physically restrained the student until help arrived, or something to that effect, this is how messed up our justice system is, if that teacher would have injured that student IN ANY WAY, they would have been brought up on some kind of "child endangerment" charges, nevermind the fact that this student just SHOT HIS TEACHER ON PURPOSE, lets over look that fact, and focus on the fact that a teacher harmed a student.................please, anyone, tell me im wrong.......................
Had it been a teenager they'd bury him
Huh? Ya that's how the law works in the U.S kids and teens get treated differently than adults.
The kid will absolutely kill someone. Not if, but when. And he will get off scott free. That's the future of our country !!!!!
Absolutely, this kid should be locked up with all the other misfits. Everyone keeps blaming the parents, the boy is the one who wanted to do this, he would have found a way to make a gun if given he found proper material if he couldn't get his moms. His name isn't being mentioned and it should. He should get jail time.
It's time ⌚ that schools 🚸 start 🛫 to pay up for every single incident that happens, because that's what they understand - money 💵 money talks 💸
Are the parents of the 6 year old will be charged?
😢so horrible! If administrators can behave like this in the face of a gun, imagine what else they turn a blind eye to every day. Horrific.
We need legislation in this country to protect school administrators from litigation or dismissal when they take action in response to a perceived threat. As it stands right now teachers and admins get their careers destroyed because a search or suspension leads to parents suing the school. It's at the point where the admin is more concerned with the school not being sued than safety.
This good for nothing kid knew what he was doing and should be held responsible for his actions
3 weeks later grown man walks in with semi Automatic kills 23 kids
Administration response we didn't think the man had a gun he has little wittle pockets
She should be sueing the "Parents to the kid since it had to be their gun.
If my son was able to get my gun out of my gun box and me not giving him the code, I am still responsible. I took on the responsibility when I bought mine. Until I sell it. Its actions still come back to me. Most gun owners prolly don't think that way but they should. If they made sure you paid for whatever happens with your gun while your own it. i think people would respect it more. I think people are too relaxed about having a gun.
Looks like only 13 News, was there to cover this story.
That is rich!! It is entirely preventable if the gun was secured and out of reach of a 6 year old child.
This is tragic on all sides
I have been following this tragic story since it happened, and all I can say is that it makes me want to swear.
As a teacher I am terrified. My sons teacher expressed being scared in light of this case and jokingly but not jokingly asked them if he was in their good graces. This is just. . . When will we be valued and protected? Not addressing the danger students present to each other and their teachers robs us of our dignity each day as we go to work not knowing if we will make it home.
Unbelievable!
When i was 6 i brought a BB gun to school for show and tell. I told my little classmates what it was, how i got it for Christmas, i talked about gun safety and we all took turns shooting it. Later, all through high school i kept a .22 in the back window gun rack in my pickup truck. We never had drag queens in school either, the world is turning upside down
That’s beyond a failed act. That’s full on not caring and being knowledgeable of your not caring and at that point taking pride in your decision to not care.
Honestly, I feel like there are some students who just aren't fit for public schools. A student like that places too many responsibilities on a system that's already stretched beyond it's limits. I understand making reasonable accommodations for students with disabilities, but I don't think it's reasonable to expect them to make accommodations for a student that's so violent that they can't even come to school without a parent to keep them under control. I also get that a parent can't always control what their children do, and it sounds like this kid has some serious mental issues, but I think if they have a dangerously violent child they do have a responsibility to protect others from them. Home schooling seems like the best choice, but we also live in a society where both parents have to work to maintain any kind of standard of living. There's a lot of blame to go around, from the school administrators to the parents and even our sick society.
Home schooling would not be an option for many homes. Your viewpoint is well-stated; thank you. We need institutions for violent children and adults. From a now-retired career teacher who loved all of these young people, but feared the scary ones and their parents.