Great content. I've been fighting to remove a cv axle for 5 days straight. Every single way possible. No luck. Fimally decided to drop my pride & see what youtube has & this was the first vid that pops up. My fight continues enabling me to win in the long run. Thanks for your time......CRAZY!!!
@@sdriza Finally got it weeks later & yes it was that locking ring all distorted & wedged...just to keep a good consistant customer i gave them there vehicle back free of charge(bcuz i had the car for month & a half)....yup, one of them "fellowships more valuable than money" type of decisions!!! The funny part is that the customer did get into an accident wen they first bought the vehicle.....jus like the vehicle in this vid was in an accident🤙🏽Aloha
This is probably the most interesting automotive repair video I've ever seen! I have certainly seen CV axles being forced inward during a collision cause problems in the transmission, usually just with bearings, but I've never seen anything like this before. Nice work!
Thanks for your perseverance on this automotive autopsy and showing why some broken CV axles won't easily pry out (if they pry out at all). Embarking on a repair to my Tiburon. Hope I don't have to go to this extreme :)
Whoa that was dedication to finally get to the bottom of the problem without giving up. Well done! (I'd have definitely broken out the carbide die-grinder bits on the end of that spline)
I am glad you explained how it got damaged. I am an amateur mechanic (DIY for my own vehicles) and this was giving me anxiety about future axel replacements. 😃
I love that you had to take apart the whole damn thing down to one sprocket and a tiny slug of the shaft that was left. Lol. Stubborn thing. Gave up the greatest fight since Maximus in gladiator. Respect. 😂
First time seeing your page, I came from the "When you need a crowfoot" short. What an adventure! Glad to see you reach the resolution of what must have been a frustrating experience
That looked like a right pita, bet that was satisfying when it came out tho, this is my first video of yours, Nice to Meet ya I'm Dee, great stuff so far...👍👌👍
I was working on a CV axle one time, for some reason I had tapped the spline end of the CV axle lightly with a hammer. After that it would not go back in. I had just tapped it lightly and that did it. I checked it with a micrometer and it was mushroomed .007 total. I took it to a belt grinder and just touched it up with a fine belt. I tried it again and it went right in. The CV axle metal is soft so be careful with it.
I wish that I had your knowledge. I have a 2008 corolla and the drivers side axle separated while trying to remove it for replacement. I cannot take it apart where I live to do those amazing fixes that you did. Any other suggestions please. I thank you ahead of time.
@ToolDemos I went to the local autozone and picked up one of those slidehammer axle-puller things, and it took 4 minutes to pull the rest out. Thanks for posting that video. Keep on doing what you're doing, cause you doing it right
That's what I'm about to try. My new part is slightly different and I don't think it will fit to just slide it in the old one, and it's too late too return😩
Man this reminded me of a mini Cooper I did last time replace the cv axle someone did replace it before but this came out don't know why but I took everything a part and look normal to me and I have the brilliant idea of getting everything back on but decided to install a new after all but man after trying to take the old axle for the second time this thing didn't butch at all I swear took me a whole day pry bar, axle puller, sliding hammer adapter, borrowed a tool for axle a Y looking one nothing works, didn't touch that thing for 3 days then I got my self two pray bars and with almost not effort this thing just came out like it wasn't inside the transmission 😮💨😮💨😮💨 🙄😳😳
That was brilliant. Your analytical efforts are in the class of the old "Forensic Files" shows. What I don't understand is how, in a normal functioning axle, the 'clip' is sufficient to retain the splined end during operation. If the axle can be pressed into place and removed again with relative ease, how is it that it stands up to significant horse power as well as left and right g-forces during turns and articulation.
Thanks MPBrewster. I totally get what you’re saying. I’m a guy who likes to see big fasteners hold things together. That clip is only there to keep the tulip in place. That’s the inboard end of the axle that I had to cut off in the beginning. The rest of the axle is retained in the hub with the axle nut. The axle moves freely laterally (except for the boot), so there is very little lateral force on the tulip. If you look at a solid axle, like a GM 12 bolt - each axle is held into the differential in a similarly flimsy way. Those axles see way more lateral force and (almost) never separate accidentally.
@@ToolDemos The wierdest axle of all would have to be the pre-67 VW. Here's another axle question if I may: Replacement CV boots or axle? For my Corolla(Matrix) inner and outer boots cost about $30 from rock auto. But a replacement axle is only around $50. No brainer really, except how can an aftermarket part, with all those hardened steel parts, shaft and boots, etc. sell for so cheap? Online comments out there seem to agree they are okay. It's like the strut dilemma; sure saves a lot on labor but is that new spring as good as oem? Hard to believe this video doesn't have 100x the views, again, it is exceptional.
@@MPBrewster my take on this issue has always been to replace the axle. Years ago axles cost way more, but my thought was if grease has already come out, you could already have bearing damage. Not to mention dirt and water intrusion. People do report problems with cheap aftermarket axles. I think the most common reason is axle length. Even a small variance could cause damage very quickly. Whenever I buy a replacement, I make sure it is exactly the same length as the OE before I install it.
@@MPBrewster chineese bearings and axles are only good for 30K miles, you get what you pay for. Some people get more miles but that's what I've found over the years, the cheap stuff just don't last
@@FourthWayRanch Well appreciated feedback. Curious thing is that a lot of these aftermarket axles carry a lifetime warranty. Of course they could be hedging a bet that most installations are for cars that are nearly dead and won't survive the warranty period for other reasons. Additionally, the "lifetime" is for original purchaser of the axle and would not be transferred to successive owners. But I'd have to side with Tool Demos and take a chance. It's a lot of work to replace a boot and you don't know what has made it into the bearing during the time the boot was open from a split. Some cars (like my Matrix) are more prone to failure and happen early. I'd want to get a lot of life out of that CV and not just 30k miles.
this video makes me never want to buy another FWD vehicle again call me crazy but I think the whole trick is to get the ring to compress and once you start pulling hard on it the ring just jams itself making it even harder to remove. Light snapping or popping might be the way to go with these ridiculous examples of bad engineering, god couldn't they come up with a ball and spring detent or something?? it's not like the stupid axle is going anywhere once the hub is back in place, why do you even need the ring??
Well, after searching the internet on ways to get my stuck CV out, now I know all I have to do is remove the engine and completely disassemble the transfer case.
I really hope this isn't what happened with my axle, I got t-boned on my passenger side tire, it broke my engine cradle and snapped my axle, I can't get the pos off with a slide hammer, I've been trying for Abt 20 minutes now Note: it is a 2009 ford escape, and I was hit at Abt 8-10 miles an hour
I'm in a similar bind, insanely stuck! I even tried the truck method. After 3/4 days I enlisted pros. Unfortunately I've not got the funds for anymore hourly labor. I did get a bit of a chuckle when they tried, Im a small woman so I know they were doubting my efforts! Im thinking to rebuild. Unfortunately the axle replacement I bought isn't an exact match. The wheels on the tripod I think are slightly smaller. I held them up to the new one and they seem a bit wider than the new tulip/cup...Thinking to just replace the boots and use the old hardware. I was wondering what would be the risk factors in doing this?
If your axles were clicking while driving, you have to replace them. If it was just a ripped boot that was leaking, you could replace that boot and reuse the old hardware. If you do that, make sure you add the proper amount of grease.
@@ToolDemos thanks, I didn't notice any clicking while driving, only saw the boots had torn. Would it be any issue to try to take the boots off of the new axle I bought? It's too late to return it. They are fractional smaller, but they but should stretch right?... Hate to waste the whole thing
Thanks for the Response@@ToolDemos the car that I am currently working on is a Volvo XC90 the have the C-clip style and like you mention on your vid,this style has a seal cup in the diff we're both of the cv axle ends meet but never see any trans fluid,I believe they use an over size c clip and won't come out
@@ToolDemos Just An Update,It never came out, even after opening the transmission Through the Differential area to get more access but it was a no go,A so simple job turn into a nightmare 😂
Are you professional mechanic ? Is this a FWD transmission? And in FWD transmission, the best way to get stuck end piece out is to take opposite side CV axle out which could be very difficult and slide in a chisel or rod and hammer it out from that side ?
I see you’ve seen this video already, sorry I linked it before. No, I am not a professional, no this is no technically a FWD transmission, it’s an AWD unit. So, it has a power transfer unit attached. In my opinion, hammering from the opposite side can work, but make sure you know what you’re hitting. If it helps, the transmission I split apart is still being used today. I swapped the differential from the old transmission into this one (because it was damaged in the rollover). Everything is working just fine now.
@@ToolDemos yeah if I try removing the CV axle from the opposite passenger side, since I’m not that familiar with transmission work I might potentially cause some damage to another part if I hammer it out? Who knows if I’m actually hitting the correct broken off shaft ? That could be for some mechanics too I suppose …they or I could do more damage than it already has …
I guess I'll have to rip apart that front axle but right now he has the truck and I doubt he would want to pay that much for labor at least he only have a rwd lol
It’s very possible, if you put a vacuum gauge on the brake booster hose you can see it. Rev the engine and watch the gauge, if you get positive pressure, you are likely go have an exhaust restriction.
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I know now how frustrating it is to have expended everything in your arsonal and STILL fail to get it out!
Incredible amount of patience and perseverance. That was a deep dive into the problem.
Yeah, a quick job can turn into a 3-day project just with one small hiccup.
What a great video. Love how far you tore it down to show the reason for the axle being stuck! Thanks for sharing.
Thank you for saying that, I appreciate you.
Great content. I've been fighting to remove a cv axle for 5 days straight. Every single way possible. No luck. Fimally decided to drop my pride & see what youtube has & this was the first vid that pops up. My fight continues enabling me to win in the long run. Thanks for your time......CRAZY!!!
Thanks. Crazy is right!
just did it this way...hope it helps!
any luck brother? i'm on day 3
@@sdriza Finally got it weeks later & yes it was that locking ring all distorted & wedged...just to keep a good consistant customer i gave them there vehicle back free of charge(bcuz i had the car for month & a half)....yup, one of them "fellowships more valuable than money" type of decisions!!!
The funny part is that the customer did get into an accident wen they first bought the vehicle.....jus like the vehicle in this vid was in an accident🤙🏽Aloha
@@nobodyschild967 i eventually prevailed as well.... with a $150 air hammer from Harbor Freight, but the new axles are so nice!!!
This is probably the most interesting automotive repair video I've ever seen! I have certainly seen CV axles being forced inward during a collision cause problems in the transmission, usually just with bearings, but I've never seen anything like this before. Nice work!
Thanks Jonathan, I really appreciate that.
How do I get it out broke strap and cable
Very interesting video Steve. Crazy how that happened from the collision. I've never taken one of those apart. Thank you for sharing.
Thanks Tony. I didn’t expect to have to tear it apart either.
Prayers to the driver and his family.
Your a class act for writing that. Good vibes for you......
@@pontiacsrule8761 Yeah, occured to me too. You buy these used parts never thinking quite what else was effected, like the people involved.
You are relentless dude!
A fair statement.
Wow that thing was really stuck! Loved that "it's only a stupid idea if it doesn't work." 0:57
Very few of us that appreciate a video like this and I’m just a DIYer. My dad was a body man.
Cool, my father-in-law did body work.
You are the truth I've never had this happen to me but I admire this video
Thanks Trevor, cheers!
Thanks for your perseverance on this automotive autopsy and showing why some broken CV axles won't easily pry out (if they pry out at all). Embarking on a repair to my Tiburon. Hope I don't have to go to this extreme :)
I hope so too!
Whoa that was dedication to finally get to the bottom of the problem without giving up. Well done! (I'd have definitely broken out the carbide die-grinder bits on the end of that spline)
Thanks
WOW!!!!! Great Job!! You're persistence and demeanor through that process is inspiring!! Glad I watched.
I am glad you explained how it got damaged. I am an amateur mechanic (DIY for my own vehicles) and this was giving me anxiety about future axel replacements. 😃
Yeah, it was a crazy problem.
Hello again Tool Demos
Thank you for another Great Video. I have never seen anything like that before. That was amazing. Thank you again
Thanks George, Cheers!
I love that you had to take apart the whole damn thing down to one sprocket and a tiny slug of the shaft that was left. Lol. Stubborn thing. Gave up the greatest fight since Maximus in gladiator. Respect. 😂
I was not expecting that.
Man, THANK YOU!!! Such an amazing video, i bet it already has helped many people, and will keep helping many others in the future.
Thanks Abdul, glad it was helpful.
First time seeing your page, I came from the "When you need a crowfoot" short. What an adventure! Glad to see you reach the resolution of what must have been a frustrating experience
Thanks for stopping by PWMW. That swap was supposed to be easy, it took twice as long as i figured.
So damn satisfying to watch you overcome this and share the knowledge. Thanks man
I appreciate that 👊🏼
Dam that sucks. I have sheared the clip getting them out before but never seen that. Hard to trust the transaxle now.
Yeah, I ended up using the transmission, but had to replace the diff.
I am speechless
Yes same this is way further than I would ever expect to go
Great video. I cant believe the truck didnt pull the axle out 😂
Thanks, you and me both.
Proof that the mechanics always win - but sometimes not till AFTER Lunch.
That’s right!
That looked like a right pita, bet that was satisfying when it came out tho, this is my first video of yours, Nice to Meet ya I'm Dee, great stuff so far...👍👌👍
Hi Dee. Glad to meet ya.
Now, that's a FINE video. Thanks so much!!!
I appreciate that Bob, thanks.
As I’ve just ordered a cheap slide hammer from Amazon, this video is giving me anxiety shakes!
That's totally understandable, I hope it's just your average CV job.
I was working on a CV axle one time, for some reason I had tapped the spline end of the CV axle lightly with a hammer. After that it would not go back in. I had just tapped it lightly and that did it. I checked it with a micrometer and it was mushroomed .007 total. I took it to a belt grinder and just touched it up with a fine belt. I tried it again and it went right in. The CV axle metal is soft so be careful with it.
Wow, that is soft.
I have the exact same issue and its exactly the same vehicle and trans and it was never in an accident
Oh wow! I wonder what happened?
@ToolDemos it seems like the axle rubs the diff pin under certain conditions causing the end of the axle to mushroom out
@@adamfairbanks618 that’s crazy! I want to look into that.
I wish that I had your knowledge. I have a 2008 corolla and the drivers side axle separated while trying to remove it for replacement. I cannot take it apart where I live to do those amazing fixes that you did. Any other suggestions please. I thank you ahead of time.
Is the big ‘bearing cup’ still stuck in there?
@ToolDemos I went to the local autozone and picked up one of those slidehammer axle-puller things, and it took 4 minutes to pull the rest out. Thanks for posting that video.
Keep on doing what you're doing, cause you doing it right
I left the Tulip Inn rebuild .put new boot on 💪🙏
Heck yeah, that works. Good thinkin’.
That's what I'm about to try. My new part is slightly different and I don't think it will fit to just slide it in the old one, and it's too late too return😩
Man this reminded me of a mini Cooper I did last time replace the cv axle someone did replace it before but this came out don't know why but I took everything a part and look normal to me and I have the brilliant idea of getting everything back on but decided to install a new after all but man after trying to take the old axle for the second time this thing didn't butch at all I swear took me a whole day pry bar, axle puller, sliding hammer adapter, borrowed a tool for axle a Y looking one nothing works, didn't touch that thing for 3 days then I got my self two pray bars and with almost not effort this thing just came out like it wasn't inside the transmission 😮💨😮💨😮💨 🙄😳😳
Wow! That’s crazy.
Excellent video. Thanks.
I’m glad it helped.
That was brilliant. Your analytical efforts are in the class of the old "Forensic Files" shows. What I don't understand is how, in a normal functioning axle, the 'clip' is sufficient to retain the splined end during operation. If the axle can be pressed into place and removed again with relative ease, how is it that it stands up to significant horse power as well as left and right g-forces during turns and articulation.
Thanks MPBrewster. I totally get what you’re saying. I’m a guy who likes to see big fasteners hold things together.
That clip is only there to keep the tulip in place. That’s the inboard end of the axle that I had to cut off in the beginning. The rest of the axle is retained in the hub with the axle nut.
The axle moves freely laterally (except for the boot), so there is very little lateral force on the tulip. If you look at a solid axle, like a GM 12 bolt - each axle is held into the differential in a similarly flimsy way. Those axles see way more lateral force and (almost) never separate accidentally.
@@ToolDemos The wierdest axle of all would have to be the pre-67 VW. Here's another axle question if I may: Replacement CV boots or axle? For my Corolla(Matrix) inner and outer boots cost about $30 from rock auto. But a replacement axle is only around $50. No brainer really, except how can an aftermarket part, with all those hardened steel parts, shaft and boots, etc. sell for so cheap? Online comments out there seem to agree they are okay. It's like the strut dilemma; sure saves a lot on labor but is that new spring as good as oem? Hard to believe this video doesn't have 100x the views, again, it is exceptional.
@@MPBrewster my take on this issue has always been to replace the axle. Years ago axles cost way more, but my thought was if grease has already come out, you could already have bearing damage. Not to mention dirt and water intrusion.
People do report problems with cheap aftermarket axles. I think the most common reason is axle length. Even a small variance could cause damage very quickly. Whenever I buy a replacement, I make sure it is exactly the same length as the OE before I install it.
@@MPBrewster chineese bearings and axles are only good for 30K miles, you get what you pay for. Some people get more miles but that's what I've found over the years, the cheap stuff just don't last
@@FourthWayRanch Well appreciated feedback. Curious thing is that a lot of these aftermarket axles carry a lifetime warranty. Of course they could be hedging a bet that most installations are for cars that are nearly dead and won't survive the warranty period for other reasons. Additionally, the "lifetime" is for original purchaser of the axle and would not be transferred to successive owners. But I'd have to side with Tool Demos and take a chance. It's a lot of work to replace a boot and you don't know what has made it into the bearing during the time the boot was open from a split. Some cars (like my Matrix) are more prone to failure and happen early. I'd want to get a lot of life out of that CV and not just 30k miles.
this video makes me never want to buy another FWD vehicle again
call me crazy but I think the whole trick is to get the ring to compress and once you start pulling hard on it the ring just jams itself making it even harder to remove. Light snapping or popping might be the way to go with these ridiculous examples of bad engineering, god couldn't they come up with a ball and spring detent or something?? it's not like the stupid axle is going anywhere once the hub is back in place, why do you even need the ring??
There are definitely too many problems with these things.
1 damn stuck clip turned into a whole transmission job
@@brotherkossi it’s crazy that something so small can be such a huge problem
Well, after searching the internet on ways to get my stuck CV out, now I know all I have to do is remove the engine and completely disassemble the transfer case.
Unfortunately that is the last resort.
What a fight
What does the flat rate pay say?
Why not just leave the portion of the CV shaft in the transmission and reuse that part?
Flat rate is probably around an hour. The differential had to come out anyway, damaged from the collision.
Very informative video thanks 👍👍👍👍👍
I appreciate that, thanks.
Feel like I’m watching CSI mechanics edition 😂 Super cool tbh
Haha! Thanks.
lol god damit this is probably why it wont com out. the vehicle is a salvage title n its bin hit rite on the very spot im workin on
Yeah, that sucks. It’s not an easy job but it can be done. I replaced the differential portion of the transmission and it’s running fine now.
@@ToolDemos dam u the dude dawg
I really hope this isn't what happened with my axle, I got t-boned on my passenger side tire, it broke my engine cradle and snapped my axle, I can't get the pos off with a slide hammer, I've been trying for Abt 20 minutes now
Note: it is a 2009 ford escape, and I was hit at Abt 8-10 miles an hour
I hope so too. If it helps, I swapped out the differential (used one) and sealed the transmission back up. It works fine now.
@@ToolDemos thankfully not, I finally got the thing replaced, I had to replace both the axle and the intermediate axle
I'm in a similar bind, insanely stuck! I even tried the truck method. After 3/4 days I enlisted pros. Unfortunately I've not got the funds for anymore hourly labor. I did get a bit of a chuckle when they tried, Im a small woman so I know they were doubting my efforts!
Im thinking to rebuild.
Unfortunately the axle replacement I bought isn't an exact match. The wheels on the tripod I think are slightly smaller. I held them up to the new one and they seem a bit wider than the new tulip/cup...Thinking to just replace the boots and use the old hardware.
I was wondering what would be the risk factors in doing this?
If your axles were clicking while driving, you have to replace them. If it was just a ripped boot that was leaking, you could replace that boot and reuse the old hardware. If you do that, make sure you add the proper amount of grease.
@@ToolDemos thanks, I didn't notice any clicking while driving, only saw the boots had torn. Would it be any issue to try to take the boots off of the new axle I bought? It's too late to return it. They are fractional smaller, but they but should stretch right?... Hate to waste the whole thing
@@ElisaHall-v5m doubt you’ll get it to stretch, probably just tear. You can buy a boot kit with grease that will fit properly.
After watching this demonstration I realized that I would have bought another car.
This is also happening to me my car' s axle stucked inside tried alot with different ideas. But have not got result and a week passed.
That sucks!
It's showing all is good
Wow,I have the same issue I try everything I can, thrust I have done axles before but it won't budge!
If you have impact damage, check the diff. Mine was damaged, so I had to replace it.
Thanks for the Response@@ToolDemos the car that I am currently working on is a Volvo XC90 the have the C-clip style and like you mention on your vid,this style has a seal cup in the diff we're both of the cv axle ends meet but never see any trans fluid,I believe they use an over size c clip and won't come out
@@ruffraff4697 Keep trying, I hope you get it.
@@ToolDemos Just An Update,It never came out, even after opening the transmission Through the Differential area to get more access but it was a no go,A so simple job turn into a nightmare 😂
@@ruffraff4697 oh my gosh! That sucks.
Man o man 💥 🛠
Wow!
But I still have to really push down on the gas to go and I get a strong gas smell out of the rear
Are you professional mechanic ? Is this a FWD transmission? And in FWD transmission, the best way to get stuck end piece out is to take opposite side CV axle out which could be very difficult and slide in a chisel or rod and hammer it out from that side ?
I see you’ve seen this video already, sorry I linked it before. No, I am not a professional, no this is no technically a FWD transmission, it’s an AWD unit. So, it has a power transfer unit attached. In my opinion, hammering from the opposite side can work, but make sure you know what you’re hitting. If it helps, the transmission I split apart is still being used today. I swapped the differential from the old transmission into this one (because it was damaged in the rollover). Everything is working just fine now.
@@ToolDemos yeah if I try removing the CV axle from the opposite passenger side, since I’m not that familiar with transmission work I might potentially cause some damage to another part if I hammer it out? Who knows if I’m actually hitting the correct broken off shaft ? That could be for some mechanics too I suppose …they or I could do more damage than it already has …
I have the same issue on a 1997 Lexus es300 FWD Passenger side🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
That sucks.
Im having the same problem, hopefully this doesnt total my 04 corolla
Hopefully not
Wow man...
I guess I'll have to rip apart that front axle but right now he has the truck and I doubt he would want to pay that much for labor at least he only have a rwd lol
Right!
OMG!
I am ther right now
Not a fun place to be.
Help me
The installation is right opposite.
You think my Cadillac converter is a clogged
It’s very possible, if you put a vacuum gauge on the brake booster hose you can see it. Rev the engine and watch the gauge, if you get positive pressure, you are likely go have an exhaust restriction.
I was just going to say I have a strong gas smell coming out of the exhaust
@@robinhernandez9582 if your exhaust is restricted, you won’t be getting enough air. The unburned fuel would be what you smell.
@@ToolDemos thank you so much that's not good for me but thank you I so much appreciate it
V nice
Woohoo!🥳🥳🥳
Still using that transmission to this day. (Replaced the diff)
Rebuild by angle grinder. 😳
Who this Car
This was a 2004 Toyota Highlander.
Axel rebuilt in vehicle anyone
That was my first thought. I’m glad I split the transmission though, because the differential was damaged.
Have send problems for my car 🤭🤭🤣🤣
I'd just buy a new car at that point 😅
I thought about it!
DRIVE SHAFT TOYOTA😅😅😅
🎉😊
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Omg just buy a prybar with a 20 degree angle it triples your power I've yet to have one take more than a few seconds